Current Events > Police show up to black man's house, he excercises his legal rights and get shot

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https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ovg7qr/corinth_police_fire_at_man_stepping_off_his_porch/

They had no reason to be on his property. He told them to go away.
They don't like being told what to do.

2nd amendment rights mean shit if you can be on your own property, minding your own business, legally possessing a firearm, and an officer shoots you 7 times after stating you are armed while standing on your own porch on your own property. That isn't freedom. Legal or not, it puts a firearm in your hands and all the pig has to say is "he had a gun" and 99% of the time they won't even get a suspension or face any disciplinary action.

Thank god this man survived after taking 7 bullets, even though HE now faces 3 assault charges.

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American cops

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Not that it justifies the shooting but that guy's an idiot and lucky to be alive

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Not that it justifies the shooting but that guy's an idiot and lucky to be alive

What would you do if a trespasser with a gun stood on your property and refused to leave?

WingsOfGood posted...

What would you do if a trespasser with a gun stood on your property and refused to leave?

Not stand on my front porch with a gun goading them into a shootout?

I also don't know the context that lead up to this but if the police showed up to my house and I didn't want to talk to them I'd probably just go in my house and tell them they can come back with a court order if they wanna talk with me.

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WingsOfGood posted...

He told them to go away.

over-reaction by the cop, he/she will get away with it.
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Police statement

"The statement continued, We are extremely proud of the courage and compassion of our officers who first stopped a murderous attack and then applied immediate and successful life-saving measures to Williams. We look forward to seeing Charles Williams, Jr. in court when the full details of his attempt to kill Corinth police officers will be made known.

And exactly as I stated, the officers claimed he had a gun, which he did, secured to his hip, legally, and they opened fire because he had a gun and took one step off of his porch, again, with the firearm on his hip, which apparently was a "murderous attack" even though officers were at least 20+ feet away and he didn't have the weapon in his hand.

Sickening.

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Yet another example of how you don't actually have the right to bear arms if the police can kill you for merely possessing a gun in their presence.

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Turns out your constitutional rights don't matter if you're black.

Fuck these officers.

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Idk if we watched the same video, but the guy was clearly the aggressor the entire time and was threatening police with a firearm?

if police have reasonable suspicion or PC to investigate a call they arent trespassing

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And just so yall know, he was shot with a beanbag first. Then he pulled out a gun and shot at the cops. Then the cops shot with a firearm

so we can wrap up this false information topic up now

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ScazarMeltex posted...

Yet another example of how you don't actually have the right to bear arms if the police can kill you for merely possessing a gun in their presence.

The police can kill if you if they think you have a gun regardless if you have one or not.

darkprince45 posted...

And just so yall know, he was shot with a beanbag first. Then he pulled out a gun and shot at the cops. Then the cops shot with a firearm

so we can wrap up this false information topic up now

Being shot at first seems like a real awful way to de-escalate the situation.

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darkprince45 posted...

And just so yall know, he was shot with a beanbag first. Then he pulled out a gun and shot at the cops. Then the cops shot with a firearm

so we can wrap up this false information topic up now

Thank god it's so easy to tell what's being shot at you in a high tense situation in the middle of the night.


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if someone just called you in as a reckless driver: police see you park in your driveway. Then youre immediately aggressive and then charge towards officers and they hit you with a beanbag. You then decide to pull out a gun and shoot officers. You are wrong.

If a guy shot a beanbag at a cop and the cop starred shooting. You guys would lose your mind. Doesnt mean a death sentence they have other tools

but because its the boogeymen. Only then is their death warranted because they used a beanbag on an aggressive charging subject

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I know when I hear a gun go off in the night exactly what is striking me.

He thought he was just shot, he went into survival mode. Isn't that the point of the 2nd amendment, being able to protect yourself in a situation where your life is at risk? Cops are among the biggest criminals in a lot of cities, the man didn't want to die on the spot, like many, many before him have. If they are wearing a badge, you shouldn't just stand there and be executed.

Fuck these power hungry pigs. It didn't need to get nearly anywhere close to where it did.

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ZMythos posted...

Thank god it's so easy to tell what's being shot at you in a high tense situation in the middle of the night.

So its okay to bring out a gun and start shooting cops? Especially after youve already been called as a reckless driver? Obviously this person is being violent before police contact

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MabusIncarnate posted...

I know when I hear a gun go off in the night exactly what is striking me.

He thought he was just shot, he went into survival mode. Isn't that the point of the 2nd amendment, being able to protect yourself in a situation where your life is at risk? Cops are among the biggest criminals in a lot of cities, the man didn't want to die on the spot, like many, many before him have. If they are wearing a badge, you shouldn't just stand there and be executed.

Fuck these power hungry pigs. It didn't need to get nearly anywhere close to where it did.

this sure is excusing attempted murder on police


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darkprince45 posted...

So its okay to bring out a gun and start shooting cops?

If I was armed, and thought I was being shot at, I would retaliate.

Because y'know, I have a fucking right to defend myself?

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darkprince45 posted...

this sure is excusing attempted murder on police

You are excusing attempted murder of an innocent civilian in his own home that got shot at for yelling. Get the fuck out of here with this, people are going to eventually start standing up to these swine, enough people die by the hand of dirty cops and people are going to start fighting back and stop looking at them as people who protect the community, but terrorize the innocent senselessly.

As soon as he told them he was armed, they saw a bright opportunity to kill another black man, so they escalated the situation ten fold just to have an excuse to open fire.

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Im done posting because obvious what you guys will choose to believe. Im sure the best outcome for you guys was for this violent person would be to start executing those cops in the middle of the street

bottom line

he was called In a reckless driver, police saw him, go in his house.

probable cause for a crime is established

reckless driving

he is immediately confrontational. Charged officers. Hit with a beanbag and then pulls out a gun.

Ive been hit with a beanbag. Its not quite the same as being shot with a gun believe it or not

he is wrong. Lawfully and morally.

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Cops should have gotten a warrant instead of trying to escalate and shoot a black man on his property.

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Man @2:42 look at him "charge" officers, when he took one step off his porch. Man that sure looked threatening.

Tomorrow i'm gonna go to the local police station and ask them to blindfold me, then shoot me with a bullet in one arm, and shoot me with a bean bag in the other, so I know in a tense situation in the dark what police are shooting me with.

What a dumb assed comment. Dur he should have felt the difference.

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youre Just excusing a man bringing a gun and attempting murder

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I am sure the NRA cares about this. No? Hmmm. I wonder why?

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darkprince45 posted...

youre Just exuding a man bringing a gun and attempting murder

What do you mean by bringing a gun? He was at his own house.

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ViewtifulGrave posted...

What do you mean by bringing a gun? He was at his own house.

by bringing it out of the holster and actively using it.

and you guys cant seem to wrap the idea around your head that your gun and property laws are not the same for a random citizen and a cop. A random guy on your yard is not the same as a cop conducting a lawful probable cause investigation on a crime YOU committed

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Fuck that guy.

Got the cops called on him for reckless driving. Acts like an aggressive hot head and you can literally hear the cops tell him at :50 to put the gun down because he pulls it out of his waistband to maneuver it like a moron.

Tells them hes Not the one to mess with. Then aggressively starts walking towards an officer for stepping on his lawn.

Yeah 10/10 times your getting shot in that situation. Once you start brandishing a firearm and acting aggressive youre not gonna get the benefit of the doubt. Youd be a fucking moron to just let a guy like that approach you.

If he didnt have a firearm this would be a totally different story, but once he starts showing off his gun he dug his own hole.

Not defending his being shot, but aggressively threatening a police officer with a gun isn't "excercising your legal right". You don't have very many legal rights when it comes to police officers.

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If someone calls the police on you, justified or not, do you have the right to tell the police to fuck off? Unless they were just making it up as a means of harassing the guy, which I assume should be on record if it's real, seems like they should be in their rights to question him. Unless he has a really bad anger issue, he definitely seems like he could be drunk. Though I feel like the police should have backed off to deescalate the situation.

Nemu posted...

If someone calls the police on you, justified or not, do you have the right to tell the police to fuck off? Unless they were just making it up as a means of harassing the guy, which I assume should be on record if it's real, seems like they should be in their rights to question him. Unless he has a really bad anger issue, he definitely seems like he could be drunk. Though I feel like the police should have backed off to deescalate the situation.

yes. If the police have established probable cause and or reasonable suspicion. They are legally entitled to conduct the investigation


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piglets gonna piglet

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How many cops are good?

None.

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@darkprince45 I am not going to interject myself in the conversation between you and others ITT.

I just have a sidebar question: how do you see your stance interacting with the 2A and especially the defend your castle doctrine?

theorerically if you see someone inside your home you can shoot. And the whole lets sit down and drink tea and find out why you are here thing doesnt really translate into the real world. Itd basically mean you came never protect your home (what if its an undercover cop? What if its someone with the right to be there? Etc)

this is an interesting academic discussion, I got no interest in getting mad at you or anything, I just like what-if conversations

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darkprince45 posted...

And just so yall know, he was shot with a beanbag first. Then he pulled out a gun and shot at the cops. Then the cops shot with a firearm

so we can wrap up this false information topic up now

They still shouldn't have shot him.

What this guy did was stupid, but he was on his property and didn't break the law. If he'd upholstered his weapon and began walking towards them, sure. But he didn't. Shooting him, even with a bean bag, just escalated this to life or death. Luckily no one was killed.

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darkprince45 posted...

Ive been hit with a beanbag. Its not quite the same as being shot with a gun believe it or not

You've been shot with both a beanbag and a bullet? And knew instantly both times what you'd been shot with? If the answer to both of those questions isn't "yes", this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

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limp-bizkit-89 posted...

@darkprince45 I am not going to interject myself in the conversation between you and others ITT.

I just have a sidebar question: how do you see your stance interacting with the 2A and especially the defend your castle doctrine?

theorerically if you see someone inside your home you can shoot. And the whole lets sit down and drink tea and find out why you are here thing doesnt really translate into the real world. Itd basically mean you came never protect your home (what if its an undercover cop? What if its someone with the right to be there? Etc)

this is an interesting academic discussion, I got no interest in getting mad at you or anything, I just like what-if conversations

ill answer this in a second

Solid Snake07 posted...

They still shouldn't have shot him.

What this guy did was stupid, but he was on his property and didn't break the law. If he'd upholstered his weapon and began walking towards them, sure. But he didn't. Shooting him, even with a bean bag, just escalated this to life or death. Luckily no one was killed.

wrong. He was called and observed by police as a reckless driver which can be a felony in most states. So they still shouldnt have shot him after being shot at with a gun?

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Im just gonna bounce from this topic before I lose anymore brain cells to the same group of rabid anti cop posters

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darkprince45 posted...

yes. If the police have established probable cause and or reasonable suspicion. They are legally entitled to conduct the investigation

You're not obligated to help them with their investigation or let them onto your property without a court issued warrant.

Now standing on your front porch with a gun and screaming at them really aggressively is a very stupid way to exercise that right, but still.

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darkprince45 posted...

Im done posting

Im going to hold you to this promise.

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Shablagoo posted...

Im going to hold you to this promise.

Boy you better shave yourchin beard

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Shablagoo posted...

Im going to hold you to this promise.

what are you gonna do, ask Xi or castro for help? Lmao

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darkprince45 posted...

Boy you better shave your nasty chin beard

homeless duck dynasty FTL

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darkprince45 posted...

Im just gonna bounce from this topic before I lose anymore brain cells to the same group of rabid anti cop posters

Lol, I'm not anti cop. But this situation was very poorly handled.

darkprince45 posted...

So they still shouldnt have shot him after being shot at with a gun?

I didn't say that, pandoras out of the box at that point. I'm saying it was a really bad decision to shoot him in the first place, even if it was a non lethal round. That's called escalating the situation, which should be the last thing they want to do with an irate man who's armed.

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darkprince45 posted...

Boy you better shave yourchin beard

At least do me a favor next time and dont get my hopes up

limp-bizkit-89 posted...

what are you gonna do, ask Xi or castro for help? Lmao

Oh yeah youre the guy who knows nothing about Castro or the Cuban Revolution but chose to speak flippantly on them anyway, then ran away when you got handily educated by multiple posters.

Here you are again ostentatiously displaying your boundless ignorance on these subjects by suggesting I could ask for the help of a man whos been dead for 5 years.

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Shablagoo posted...

At least do me a favor next time and dont get my hopes up

Oh yeah youre the guy who knows nothing about Castro or the Cuban Revolution but chose to speak flippantly on them anyway, then ran away when you got handily educated by multiple posters.

Here you are again ostentatiously displaying your boundless ignorance on these subjects by suggesting I could ask for the help of a man whos been dead for 5 years.

Shablagoo posted...

At least do me a favor next time and dont get my hopes up

Oh yeah youre the guy who knows nothing about Castro or the Cuban Revolution but chose to speak flippantly on them anyway, then ran away when you got handily educated by multiple posters.

Here you are again ostentatiously displaying your boundless ignorance on these subjects by suggesting I could ask for the help of a man whos been dead for 5 years.

you must have cried so much when castro died lol.

legends say that is the day you stopped cleaning your room and shaving your armpit beard lol


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darkprince45 posted...

Idk if we watched the same video, but the guy was clearly the aggressor the entire time and was threatening police with a firearm?

if police have reasonable suspicion or PC to investigate a call they arent trespassing

You obviously didn't watch the video. You saw what fit your bias.

darkprince45 posted...

if someone just called you in as a reckless driver: police see you park in your driveway. Then youre immediately aggressive and then charge towards officers and they hit you with a beanbag. You then decide to pull out a gun and shoot officers. You are wrong.

Police were told to leave his property. They had no rights to be on it. They refused to leave.

He had the right to defend his property from armed tresspassers.