Poll of the Day > Who would win? Random pokemon Battle!

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Ogurisama
07/30/21 4:07:36 PM
#1:


Tauros vs Dewpider


Who will round one?

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EvilMegas
07/30/21 4:10:22 PM
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Tarous can learn Shockwave and I think it's faster.

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AndyReklaw
07/30/21 4:19:08 PM
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Dewpider's a stage 1 of 2 (vs Tauros being a single stage) so it's stats would be pretty crappy in comparison.

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Ogurisama
07/30/21 4:19:10 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Tarous can learn Shockwave and I think it's faster.
Yeah, round one is kinda one sided, but i was just using a random pokemon generator.

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BlackScythe0
07/30/21 5:07:35 PM
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Literally a base stat total of 269 vs 490. Tauros is almost twice as strong just purely off stats, not to mention it's much better move pool.
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Ogurisama
07/30/21 9:22:58 PM
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AndyReklaw
07/30/21 10:59:09 PM
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Nah, screw the stats/moves/whatevs I'm gonna just go with pokedex entries and whatever else is in their bulbapedia biology from now on.

...which is still definitely Tauros here.

I don't think
"Its water bubble allows it to breathe and protects its soft head."
Is much match for
"it will charge at thick trees and knock them down"

Also 1ft 8.8lbs would smoosh pretty easy under 4ft7in 195lbs.

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trodi_911
07/31/21 12:51:51 AM
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Tauros would win 9 times out of 10. Dewpider could win under certain conditions but you'd really need to min/max Dewpider to specifically fight against Tauros and even then Tauros has to play badly to lose.

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nesspoojeff
07/31/21 1:03:53 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Tarous can learn Shockwave and I think it's faster.

That would probably do less dmg then one of its STAB attacks...

Actually gonna run some dmg calcs...

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Kimbos_Egg
07/31/21 1:06:25 AM
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EvilMegas posted...
Tarous can learn Shockwave and I think it's faster.

And it has a terrible special attack though.

Also, how is it fair to go up against NFE pokemon?

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nesspoojeff
07/31/21 1:14:05 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
And it has a terrible special attack though.

Also, how is it fair to go up against NFE pokemon?
It's not fair, it's completely random. I'm sure it will even up later on in the bracket.

nesspoojeff posted...
That would probably do less dmg then one of its STAB attacks...

Actually gonna run some dmg calcs...

After calculations with a +def natured Dewpider, Tauros has a 100% chance to ohko with Body slam doing almost 20000% of its health.

Thunder which is almost twice as strong as Shockwave does about half. Still a ohko obviously.

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trodi_911
07/31/21 1:52:28 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
And it has a terrible special attack though.

Also, how is it fair to go up against NFE pokemon?
Eviolite.

nesspoojeff posted...
It's not fair, it's completely random. I'm sure it will even up later on in the bracket.

After calculations with a +def natured Dewpider, Tauros has a 100% chance to ohko with Body slam doing almost 20000% of its health.

Thunder which is almost twice as strong as Shockwave does about half. Still a ohko obviously.
That doesn't seem right. Did you calculate this with a level 5 Dewpider?

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BlackScythe0
07/31/21 1:56:05 AM
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trodi_911 posted...
Tauros would win 9 times out of 10. Dewpider could win under certain conditions but you'd really need to min/max Dewpider to specifically fight against Tauros and even then Tauros has to play badly to lose.

I'd say it's 10 out of 10 times. Tauros would literally have to spam non-attacking moves the entire time or repeatedly miss a rock slide or something. Dewpider has a base hp of 38, that is nothing, basically any stab attack from Tauros should one shot it, not even mentioning the super effective options it has in wild charge or rock slide.
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trodi_911
07/31/21 2:40:12 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I'd say it's 10 out of 10 times. Tauros would literally have to spam non-attacking moves the entire time or repeatedly miss a rock slide or something. Dewpider has a base hp of 38, that is nothing, basically any stab attack from Tauros should one shot it, not even mentioning the super effective options it has in wild charge or rock slide.

You'd be surprised.

Eviolite and 100 HP/156 Def EV investment and Dynamaxing give Dewpider enough tankiness to live through almost anything Tauros can throw at it. Give Dewpider a Special Attack increasing nature with the full 252 EV investment in Special attack, Water Bubble as it's ability which doubles Water-Type attacks damage, Surf which turns into 130 base power Max Geyser when Dynamaxed and assuming Tauros has very little in the way of defensive investment since it is usually used played as a Physical Sweeper which is 252EVs in Attack and Speed. At this point Dewpider can survive a hit from a Tauros and proceed to one hit KO if Tauros doesn't dynamax itself hence the "play badly" part and that's just a best case scenario.

Maybe Dewpider could do better with more defensive investment to survive another turn and getting more damage from rain from Max Geyser.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/31/21 3:26:47 AM
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Ogurisama posted...
Bump

Ive made a full bracket, you will see it as it goes


full as in all? because if so, you will need to do about 6 a day to finish anytime soon...

ultra beasts included?
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nesspoojeff
07/31/21 4:03:42 AM
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trodi_911 posted...
Eviolite.

That doesn't seem right. Did you calculate this with a level 5 Dewpider?


You know what? I actually did by mistake. Forgot to check off LC for Dewpider lmao.

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Ogurisama
07/31/21 11:42:25 AM
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