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limp-bizkit-89
08/01/21 11:57:58 PM
#52:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Sonic Xtreme looked like it would have aged like shit but it would have been fine for 1996.

that game intrigues me so much. There were like 3+ prototypes and a 32x proto.

one proto had the previous proto hidden under it too

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Music_Rock_Cat
08/01/21 11:58:53 PM
#53:


The Sonic Xtreme Level Viewer if you wanna see the levels that were completed for the game before cancellation. A PC Version was also in the works which was different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGmZydaps3o

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Darmik
08/01/21 11:59:41 PM
#54:


I think Sega were screwed in general. Going later would give Playstation no competition at all. Sega were already starting to struggle with relevance in 95.

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limp-bizkit-89
08/02/21 12:00:02 AM
#55:


Music_Rock_Cat posted...
The Sonic Xtreme Level Viewer if you wanna see the levels that were completed for the game before cancellation. A PC Version was also in the works which was different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGmZydaps3o

wow thanks this is awesome


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Music_Rock_Cat
08/02/21 12:04:29 AM
#56:


limp-bizkit-89 posted...
wow thanks this is awesome

Theres also these pics with Sonic Xtreme running on the NiGHTS Engine. Bernie Stolar then idiot president of Sega USA borrowed the graphics engine from Sega Japan without permission. Word got out to Yuji Naka who threatened to quit Sega entirely if Sega USA used the NiGHTS Engine to complete the game. This prototype has been rumored to be destroyed.

https://imgur.com/peFGPQj

https://imgur.com/cKBytr3

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Scotty_Rogers
08/02/21 12:09:05 AM
#57:


Darmik posted...
I think Sega were screwed in general. Going later would give Playstation no competition at all. Sega were already starting to struggle with relevance in 95.

Honestly they should have just merged with Sony like Sega of America wanted. Sega of Japan was just too arrogant so they said no.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/02/21 12:13:18 AM
#58:


Bruh i really wish i could find my old saturn games. All i can find are burning rangers and virtua fighter 2; my only controller (the us model 1) is messed up too. I was this so close to buying a couple of new controllers off amazon but i cant find my games smh

I really wanna find nights and panzer dragoon 2. I never played all that much of the saturn but my fav memory is playing panzer dragoon 2 in 2017. Think i beat a boss or two. Omg why can't i find my games

Music_Rock_Cat posted...
Theres also these pics with Sonic Xtreme running on the NiGHTS Engine. Bernie Stolar then idiot president of Sega USA borrowed the graphics engine from Sega Japan without permission. Word got out to Yuji Naka who threatened to quit Sega entirely if Sega USA used the NiGHTS Engine to complete the game. This prototype has been rumored to be destroyed.

https://imgur.com/peFGPQj

https://imgur.com/cKBytr3

This is xtreme on the nights engine actually:
https://youtu.be/XO9-8G5CeVE

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limp-bizkit-89
08/02/21 12:22:27 AM
#59:


Music_Rock_Cat posted...
Theres also these pics with Sonic Xtreme running on the NiGHTS Engine. Bernie Stolar then idiot president of Sega USA borrowed the graphics engine from Sega Japan without permission. Word got out to Yuji Naka who threatened to quit Sega entirely if Sega USA used the NiGHTS Engine to complete the game. This prototype has been rumored to be destroyed.

https://imgur.com/peFGPQj

https://imgur.com/cKBytr3

ur tonights MVP


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Bloodmoon77
08/02/21 12:23:12 AM
#60:


Can someone explain the difference between 32 and 64 bit please and thank you

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Music_Rock_Cat
08/02/21 12:24:54 AM
#61:


Also alot of the Japanese import Saturn games are worth checking out such as:

Fighting Vipers(Japan version has Sonic, Tails, and Pepsiman as secret characters)
Dark Seed 1 and 2
Far East of Eden IV
Suikoden
Castlevania Symphony of the NIght(comes with Maria as a secret character)
Tomagotchi Park
Shin Megami Tensai: Devil Summoner
Sakura Wars
Shining Force 3: Scenario 2 and 3
Robot Wars Final
Solderschild
Death Crimson
Final Fight Revenge(last game released for the system in 1999)
Anarchy in the Nippon
Fire Pro Wrestling 6-Man Scramble
Dead or Alive(much better than the PS1 Version)

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limp-bizkit-89
08/02/21 12:27:10 AM
#62:


Bloodmoon77 posted...
Can someone explain the difference between 32 and 64 bit please and thank you

imagine you are a console CPU.
a bit is a unit of data, imagine it as a single time you can simp on a CEgal.

a 32bit bloodmoon can only simp on a CEgal 32 times at a given time.

a 64bit blood moon can simp on a CEgal 64 times at a given time.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/02/21 12:47:16 AM
#63:


Fuck it. Ordered Japanese imports of Nights and Fighting Vipers off Amazon along with two Retrobit controllers (one is a 3d fighting pad and the other is in the original Japanese style). The Japanese imports of Nights and Vipers are new, but I'd also like to get Panzer Dragoon 2 again. Sadly I can't find any new copies, guess I'll settle for used

Any other Saturn games I should get? I might regret this but I just gotta get the true Sega Saturn experience. :)

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SomeLikeItHoth
08/02/21 12:51:31 AM
#64:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Any other Saturn games I should get? I might regret this but I just gotta get the true Sega Saturn experience. :)
Now you just need to buy some Green Day CDs and some 3D doritoes and you'll have the true '90s kid experience.

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DarkRoast
08/02/21 12:53:01 AM
#65:


Bits were meaningless. N64 graphically was a lot more powerful than PlayStation but was hamstrung so badly by the cartridge format. It was like 1,000x the production cost for 1/10th the storage space (and that's for the rare 512 Megabit (64 MB) cartridges. Most games were 32 MB or smaller. Mario 64 was 8 MB.

A standard CD was 650 MB and cost like 5 cents to make

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limp-bizkit-89
08/02/21 1:04:45 AM
#66:


DarkRoast posted...
Bits were meaningless. N64 graphically was a lot more powerful than PlayStation but was hamstrung so badly by the cartridge format. It was like 1,000x the production cost for 1/10th the storage space (and that's for the rare 512 Megabit (64 MB) cartridges. Most games were 32 MB or smaller. Mario 64 was 8 MB.

A standard CD was 650 MB and cost like 5 cents to make

Id not say theyre meaningless, they were simply a factor among many (if you have two indentical systems with the only difference being bits, the higher bit system would be better).

marketing made us think they were THE factor back in the day, though


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Bloodmoon77
08/02/21 1:25:13 AM
#67:


limp-bizkit-89 posted...
imagine you are a console CPU.
a bit is a unit of data, imagine it as a single time you can simp on a CEgal.

a 32bit bloodmoon can only simp on a CEgal 32 times at a given time.

a 64bit blood moon can simp on a CEgal 64 times at a given time.
This was beautiful wow

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Scotty_Rogers
08/02/21 1:35:27 AM
#68:


SomeLikeItHoth posted...
Now you just need to buy some Green Day CDs and some 3D doritoes and you'll have the true '90s kid experience.

Lol my moms is def gonna be pissed when she finds out i wasted my money on this shit. Brb looking for a job ASAP

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Music_Rock_Cat
08/02/21 11:40:11 AM
#69:


I buy Saturn stuff all the time with my work money. Just bought Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV for the Saturn a few nights ago. Also got the Japanese version of Enemy Zero and Master of Monsters in the mail before that. I usually love going to the Weed Dispensary beforehand and smoking/eating edibles before enjoying some Sega Saturn.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/03/21 5:54:09 AM
#70:


lol had second thoughts and naw, i had to cancel most of those saturn orders. i don't need to buy games i already own on other consoles or games that i could easily buy for a lower price on other consoles. i'll keep the controllers, nights, fighters megamix (not vipers, i got the titles mixed up) and panzer dragoon 2 but i don't need the rest.

thankfully the shit i don't want anymore didn't already enter the shipping process. dodged a bullet fam

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Music_Rock_Cat
08/03/21 10:04:35 AM
#71:


Panzer Dragoon 2 is worth alot of money

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Scotty_Rogers
08/03/21 10:32:25 PM
#72:


The most fun I had on Saturn was playing Panzer Dragoon 2 a few years ago. Sadly I can't find my US copy, but I ordered a Japanese import in new condition that will come next month. It was pretty expensive, but fuck it, I like this game too much.

Not ordering anything else, nope.

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Music_Rock_Cat
08/04/21 10:06:44 AM
#73:


I usually find Panzer Dragoon 1 and 2 Imports at $15-$30 a piece. Panzer Dragoon Saga Import is like $40-$70. US Version of Saga? $400 - $1500 for a copy which is ridiculous. Magic Knight Rayearth might be the most valube Sega Saturn game, hell even some sealed copies go for $2000.

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