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Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 2:42:17 PM #1:	Surely Sega would have made it CD-based, too, unlike the Nintendo 64. A 64-bit CD console would have been so dope. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956615002] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Surely Sega would have made it CD-based, too, unlike the Nintendo 64. A 64-bit CD console would have been so dope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 07/30/21 3:08:15 PM #3:	Scotty_Rogers posted... lmao Sega trash Forget to change accounts ? --- https://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:956615700] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>lmao Sega trash</quote> Forget to change accounts ? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 07/30/21 3:11:45 PM #4:	The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you. --- Intel 486, Integrated videocard, 16MB RAM, 64MB HD, 3 1/4 inch floppy <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:956615781] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 3:13:00 PM #5:	DirkDiggles posted... The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you. The N64 was hindered by the fact it was cartridge-based. If it was CD-based, then it would have blown the PS1 out of the water. What Sega should have done was released a 64-bit CD-based console in 1996; had they done that, they might have won the console race. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956615802] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>DirkDiggles posted... </cite> <quote>The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you.</quote> The N64 was hindered by the fact it was cartridge-based. If it was CD-based, then it would have blown the PS1 out of the water. What Sega should have done was released a 64-bit CD-based console in 1996; had they done that, they might have won the console race. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Conception616 07/30/21 3:29:44 PM #6:	ToadallyAwesome posted... Forget to change accounts ? Whats weird is he even edited it to say something completely different. --- Ain't no mystery god, peace to the true and living. I Self Lord And Master. <cite>Conception616 posted [p:956616239] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote> Forget to change accounts ?</quote> Whats weird is he even edited it to say something completely different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 3:30:57 PM #7:	lmao Sega (was the) GOAT --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956616263] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>lmao Sega (was the) GOAT </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/30/21 3:31:57 PM #8:	Sega used to be so good. I was a huge sega fan in the 90s. They only fell cause their leadership in the mid to late 90s was really stupid for some reason. I never knew another person who had a Saturn. Or a dream cast actually. I had both. I always supported sega until they collapsed from hardware <cite>Zikten posted [p:956616297] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Sega used to be so good. I was a huge sega fan in the 90s. They only fell cause their leadership in the mid to late 90s was really stupid for some reason. I never knew another person who had a Saturn. Or a dream cast actually. I had both. I always supported sega until they collapsed from hardware</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 3:43:11 PM #9:	The Genesis was successful in the West, but a flop in the East. Obviously Sega's American and Japanese branches would have different ideas on what their next console should have been like, but ultimately, the Japanese side should have just bowed to the American side as the Western market is more important than the East. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956616591] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>The Genesis was successful in the West, but a flop in the East. Obviously Sega's American and Japanese branches would have different ideas on what their next console should have been like, but ultimately, the Japanese side should have just bowed to the American side as the Western market is more important than the East. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/30/21 3:46:21 PM #10:	DirkDiggles posted... The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you. lmao as powerful as the n64? What did you smoke? --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956616655] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>DirkDiggles posted... </cite> <quote>The PS1 was only 32 bits and just as powerful as the 64. lol Joke's on you.</quote> lmao as powerful as the n64? What did you smoke? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 07/30/21 4:00:35 PM #11:	Scotty_Rogers posted... The N64 was hindered by the fact it was cartridge-based. If it was CD-based, then it would have blown the PS1 out of the water. What Sega should have done was released a 64-bit CD-based console in 1996; had they done that, they might have won the console race. I know this is a bullshit topic, but I do hope you understand the Genesis of the PS1. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:956617060] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote> The N64 was hindered by the fact it was cartridge-based. If it was CD-based, then it would have blown the PS1 out of the water. What Sega should have done was released a 64-bit CD-based console in 1996; had they done that, they might have won the console race. </quote> I know this is a bullshit topic, but I do hope you understand the Genesis of the PS1.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SocialistGamer 07/30/21 4:03:00 PM #12:	Dragon quest 7 was originally in development for the Saturn. I wonder how that wouldve changed things if it came out on that. --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:956617150] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Dragon quest 7 was originally in development for the Saturn. I wonder how that wouldve changed things if it came out on that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/30/21 4:06:06 PM #13:	SocialistGamer posted... Dragon quest 7 was originally in development for the Saturn. I wonder how that wouldve changed things if it came out on that. check the YouTube video about how the Saturn handles tomb raider, its a mind fuck. the Saturn does polygons by deforming quads, which are basically sprites. If you disable the deformation then you get real hallucinating results. basically tomb raider 1 and quake were pushing the Saturns limits already --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956617223] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>SocialistGamer posted... </cite> <quote>Dragon quest 7 was originally in development for the Saturn. I wonder how that wouldve changed things if it came out on that.</quote> check the YouTube video about how the Saturn handles tomb raider, its a mind fuck. the Saturn does polygons by deforming quads, which are basically sprites. If you disable the deformation then you get real hallucinating results. basically tomb raider 1 and quake were pushing the Saturns limits already </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 4:08:07 PM #14:	SiO4 posted... I know this is a bullshit topic, but I do hope you understand the Genesis of the PS1. It's irrelevant. N64 flopped compared to the PS1 because it was cartridge-based combined with the fact Nintendo was already on bad terms with third party devs due to their policies with the SNES. Sega was on better terms, so if they did a 64-bit CD-based console, they might have won. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956617283] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>SiO4 posted... </cite> <quote>I know this is a bullshit topic, but I do hope you understand the Genesis of the PS1.</quote> It's irrelevant. N64 flopped compared to the PS1 because it was cartridge-based combined with the fact Nintendo was already on bad terms with third party devs due to their policies with the SNES. Sega was on better terms, so if they did a 64-bit CD-based console, they might have won. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paragon21XX 07/30/21 4:48:50 PM #15:	Sega Saturn had ninety-nine problems, but hardware specs ain't one. --- Hmm... <cite>Paragon21XX posted [p:956618456] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Sega Saturn had ninety-nine problems, but hardware specs ain't one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Legato-and-Vash 07/30/21 4:58:07 PM #16:	Conception616 posted... Whats weird is he even edited it to say something completely different. Lol I'm curious. What did he change it to? --- *~Sincerely yours, Legato and Vash~* Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/kid_prodigy23 <cite>Legato-and-Vash posted [p:956618720] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Conception616 posted... </cite> <quote>Whats weird is he even edited it to say something completely different.</quote>Lol I'm curious. What did he change it to? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirkDiggles 07/30/21 5:05:29 PM #17:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... lmao as powerful as the n64? What did you smoke? If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1. --- Intel 486, Integrated videocard, 16MB RAM, 64MB HD, 3 1/4 inch floppy <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:956618919] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>lmao as powerful as the n64? What did you smoke?</quote> If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/30/21 5:09:07 PM #18:	DirkDiggles posted... If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1. lol no. CGI cinemas fooled a lot of people, but as far as game complexity the ps1 couldnt touch the n64. games like crash bandicoot were possible because of forced perspective and small range, something like mario 64 (and as a launch game!) would have been quite difficult to achieve on the ps1. Those Star Wars games and rare games like banjo kazooie and conkers would have probably been impossible in the ps1 --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956619039] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>DirkDiggles posted... </cite> <quote>If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1.</quote> lol no. CGI cinemas fooled a lot of people, but as far as game complexity the ps1 couldnt touch the n64. games like crash bandicoot were possible because of forced perspective and small range, something like mario 64 (and as a launch game!) would have been quite difficult to achieve on the ps1. Those Star Wars games and rare games like banjo kazooie and conkers would have probably been impossible in the ps1 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yutterh 07/30/21 5:10:02 PM #19:	DirkDiggles posted... If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1. The competition really was CD vs Cartridge. CD's had more space and if the game wasn't big enough it was able to be split up into multiple discs. Which is why RPGs flourished on the PS compared to the N64. Though the N64 did technically have more power. --- CPU i5 10600k, CPUC evga CLC 280x140, RAM tridentz 3200mhz cl14 32gb, MOBO Asus Rog strix e-gaming, GPU evga fc3 rtx 3070, PSU evga 850w G2, Samsung G7 32in. <cite>yutterh posted [p:956619071] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>DirkDiggles posted... </cite> <quote>If you are just going by raw power, then yeah, the 64 is more powerful. Graphic realism, sound, and programing go to the PS1.</quote> The competition really was CD vs Cartridge. CD's had more space and if the game wasn't big enough it was able to be split up into multiple discs. Which is why RPGs flourished on the PS compared to the N64. Though the N64 did technically have more power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/30/21 5:24:53 PM #20:	Paragon21XX posted... Sega Saturn had ninety-nine problems, but hardware specs ain't one. @Paragon21XX lol you don't know what you're talking about. the hardware made it insanely difficult to make games for. The console was originally meant to just be 2D, but after Sega learned of the PS1's specs, they slapped on a second video processor to improve both its 2D and 3D capabilities. The end result was that it was a pain for most developers to make games for it; even sega of america fought against its architecture and looked for an alternative with silicon graphics. sega of japan shot that down as it was too buggy and expensive for a 1994 release, so silicon teamed up with nintendo on the n64, which came out in 1996. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956619541] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Paragon21XX posted... </cite> <quote>Sega Saturn had ninety-nine problems, but hardware specs ain't one.</quote> @Paragon21XX lol you don't know what you're talking about. the hardware made it insanely difficult to make games for. The console was originally meant to just be 2D, but after Sega learned of the PS1's specs, they slapped on a second video processor to improve both its 2D and 3D capabilities. The end result was that it was a pain for most developers to make games for it; even sega of america fought against its architecture and looked for an alternative with silicon graphics. sega of japan shot that down as it was too buggy and expensive for a 1994 release, so silicon teamed up with nintendo on the n64, which came out in 1996. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/31/21 10:13:22 PM #21:	Researching it more, I don't think the Saturn's hardware was as bad as a lot of insiders would want you to believe. Ultimately, it was worse than the PS1's, but I don't think it was much worse than the N64's. If the N64 could have significant success despite having such flawed hardware, then surely so could have the Saturn had it been marketed much better. Furthermore, the Saturn's hardware did have some pros over its competitors, mainly being that it was the best at 2D games. And while it certainly would have been better to prioritize doing 3D games like the PS1 was, no one seriously thought of making a 3D-based console before Sony did. Sega should have just spent a much longer time developing the Saturn after learning of the PS1's specs, so it could handle 3D better. The Saturn didn't have to be 64-bit and it didn't have to come out in 1996. It should have just first been released in late 1995 instead of 1994; with the extra time in development, Sega could have improved its hardware while maintaining its own specific advantages. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956656868] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Researching it more, I don't think the Saturn's hardware was as bad as a lot of insiders would want you to believe. Ultimately, it was worse than the PS1's, but I don't think it was much worse than the N64's. If the N64 could have significant success despite having such flawed hardware, then surely so could have the Saturn had it been marketed much better. Furthermore, the Saturn's hardware did have some pros over its competitors, mainly being that it was the best at 2D games. And while it certainly would have been better to prioritize doing 3D games like the PS1 was, no one seriously thought of making a 3D-based console before Sony did. Sega should have just spent a much longer time developing the Saturn after learning of the PS1's specs, so it could handle 3D better. The Saturn didn't have to be 64-bit and it didn't have to come out in 1996. It should have just first been released in late 1995 instead of 1994; with the extra time in development, Sega could have improved its hardware while maintaining its own specific advantages. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/31/21 11:29:42 PM #22:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Researching it more, I don't think the Saturn's hardware was as bad as a lot of insiders would want you to believe. Ultimately, it was worse than the PS1's, but I don't think it was much worse than the N64's. If the N64 could have significant success despite having such flawed hardware, then surely so could have the Saturn had it been marketed much better. Furthermore, the Saturn's hardware did have some pros over its competitors, mainly being that it was the best at 2D games. And while it certainly would have been better to prioritize doing 3D games like the PS1 was, no one seriously thought of making a 3D-based console before Sony did. Sega should have just spent a much longer time developing the Saturn after learning of the PS1's specs, so it could handle 3D better. The Saturn didn't have to be 64-bit and it didn't have to come out in 1996. It should have just first been released in late 1995 instead of 1994; with the extra time in development, Sega could have improved its hardware while maintaining its own specific advantages. lol no. the ps1 was the easiest to develop for, but it was theoretically comparable to the Saturn in terms of raw power. the n64 was by far the most powerful but it was a nightmare to develop for. the Saturn was even worse than the n64 to develop for, this is why you see a lot of ps1 emulation but far less n64 emulation and even less Saturn emulation. --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956658863] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>Researching it more, I don't think the Saturn's hardware was as bad as a lot of insiders would want you to believe. Ultimately, it was worse than the PS1's, but I don't think it was much worse than the N64's. If the N64 could have significant success despite having such flawed hardware, then surely so could have the Saturn had it been marketed much better. Furthermore, the Saturn's hardware did have some pros over its competitors, mainly being that it was the best at 2D games. And while it certainly would have been better to prioritize doing 3D games like the PS1 was, no one seriously thought of making a 3D-based console before Sony did. Sega should have just spent a much longer time developing the Saturn after learning of the PS1's specs, so it could handle 3D better. The Saturn didn't have to be 64-bit and it didn't have to come out in 1996. It should have just first been released in late 1995 instead of 1994; with the extra time in development, Sega could have improved its hardware while maintaining its own specific advantages.</quote> lol no. the ps1 was the easiest to develop for, but it was theoretically comparable to the Saturn in terms of raw power. the n64 was by far the most powerful but it was a nightmare to develop for. the Saturn was even worse than the n64 to develop for, this is why you see a lot of ps1 emulation but far less n64 emulation and even less Saturn emulation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/31/21 11:34:06 PM #23:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... the n64 was by far the most powerful but it was a nightmare to develop for. Less cartridge space, couldn't do 2D games virtually at all and even a lot of 3D games looked off. Some devs even found the N64 worse to develop for Saturn ran on the superior CDs and was the king at 2D. All in all, I'd say their hardware was about equally bad, but the N64 had better marketing so it lasted longer. The main point is that the Saturn didn't need to have the best hardware; even if it was just passable, it would have done well if it was marketed better. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956658977] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>the n64 was by far the most powerful but it was a nightmare to develop for.</quote> Less cartridge space, couldn't do 2D games virtually at all and even a lot of 3D games looked off. Some devs even found the N64 worse to develop for Saturn ran on the superior CDs and was the king at 2D. All in all, I'd say their hardware was about equally bad, but the N64 had better marketing so it lasted longer. The main point is that the Saturn didn't need to have the best hardware; even if it was just passable, it would have done well if it was marketed better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/31/21 11:41:05 PM #24:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Less cartridge space, couldn't do 2D games virtually at all and even a lot of 3D games looked off. Some devs even found the N64 worse to develop for Saturn ran on the superior CDs and was the king at 2D. All in all, I'd say their hardware was about equally bad, but the N64 had better marketing so it lasted longer. The main point is that the Saturn didn't need to have the best hardware; even if it was just passable, it would have done well if it was marketed better. devs struggled to do basic stuff like transparency on the Saturn. The poor thing even used distorted sprites (quads) in lieu of polygons. can you imagine a game like conkers bad fur day or OoT in the Saturn? --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956659148] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>Less cartridge space, couldn't do 2D games virtually at all and even a lot of 3D games looked off. Some devs even found the N64 worse to develop for Saturn ran on the superior CDs and was the king at 2D. All in all, I'd say their hardware was about equally bad, but the N64 had better marketing so it lasted longer. The main point is that the Saturn didn't need to have the best hardware; even if it was just passable, it would have done well if it was marketed better.</quote> devs struggled to do basic stuff like transparency on the Saturn. The poor thing even used distorted sprites (quads) in lieu of polygons. can you imagine a game like conkers bad fur day or OoT in the Saturn? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 07/31/21 11:50:13 PM #25:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... devs struggled to do basic stuff like transparency on the Saturn. The poor thing even used distorted sprites (quads) in lieu of polygons. can you imagine a game like conkers bad fur day or OoT in the Saturn? Can you imagine a games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, etc on the N64? Both consoles had shit hardware, yet the N64 still did OK. Ultimately, marketing was more important, and with improved hardware from a delay, the Saturn would have done well. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956659375] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>devs struggled to do basic stuff like transparency on the Saturn. The poor thing even used distorted sprites (quads) in lieu of polygons. can you imagine a game like conkers bad fur day or OoT in the Saturn?</quote> Can you imagine a games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, etc on the N64? Both consoles had shit hardware, yet the N64 still did OK. Ultimately, marketing was more important, and with improved hardware from a delay, the Saturn would have done well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 07/31/21 11:55:24 PM #26:	Scotty_Rogers posted... Can you imagine a games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, etc on the N64? panzer? Easy yes radiant silver gun: never heard of it xmen vs sf: lol yes. Killer instinct gold was far more graphically intensive --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956659489] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>Can you imagine a games like Panzer Dragoon Saga, Radiant Silvergun, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, etc on the N64?</quote> panzer? Easy yes radiant silver gun: never heard of it xmen vs sf: lol yes. Killer instinct gold was far more graphically intensive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:00:21 AM #27:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... panzer? Easy yes lol N64 couldn't handle ff7 but supposedly it could do panzer? n64 was trash at rpgs aside from zelda limp-bizkit-89 posted... radiant silver gun: never heard of it snicker limp-bizkit-89 posted... xmen vs sf: lol yes. Killer instinct gold was far more graphically intensive lol no. it's a sprite based game and the n64 didn't focus on sprites at all. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956659617] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>panzer? Easy yes</quote> lol N64 couldn't handle ff7 but supposedly it could do panzer? n64 was trash at rpgs aside from zelda limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>radiant silver gun: never heard of it</quote> snicker limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>xmen vs sf: lol yes. Killer instinct gold was far more graphically intensive</quote> lol no. it's a sprite based game and the n64 didn't focus on sprites at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:04:38 AM #28:	Scotty_Rogers posted... lol N64 couldn't handle ff7 but supposedly it could do panzer? n64 was trash at rpgs aside from zelda snicker lol no. it's a sprite based game and the n64 didn't focus on sprites at all. lmao. Angel studios offered to port ffVII to the n64 but they refused, so they ported RE2 instead. also, what did you think killer instinct gold was, polygons? Lol. Its sprites. But its even more memory consuming since theyre pre-rendered. N64 didnt have many 2d games, but it doesnt mean it couldnt do them. You also have mortal kombat trilogy, yoshis story, mischief makers, and others --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956659759] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>lol N64 couldn't handle ff7 but supposedly it could do panzer? n64 was trash at rpgs aside from zelda snicker lol no. it's a sprite based game and the n64 didn't focus on sprites at all.</quote> lmao. Angel studios offered to port ffVII to the n64 but they refused, so they ported RE2 instead. also, what did you think killer instinct gold was, polygons? Lol. Its sprites. But its even more memory consuming since theyre pre-rendered. N64 didnt have many 2d games, but it doesnt mean it couldnt do them. You also have mortal kombat trilogy, yoshis story, mischief makers, and others </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:16:51 AM #29:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... lmao. Angel studios offered to port ffVII to the n64 but they refused, so they ported RE2 instead. no one wants a shit tier port lol. n64 used cartridges so ff7 was only possible by cutting out a lot of shit to save space limp-bizkit-89 posted... N64 didnt have many 2d games, but it doesnt mean it couldnt do them. nowhere near as well as the saturn could. not even the ps1 could measure up. a game like xmen vs street fighter would lose a lot of stuff if it was on n64 --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956660097] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>lmao. Angel studios offered to port ffVII to the n64 but they refused, so they ported RE2 instead.</quote> no one wants a shit tier port lol. n64 used cartridges so ff7 was only possible by cutting out a lot of shit to save space limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote> N64 didnt have many 2d games, but it doesnt mean it couldnt do them. </quote> nowhere near as well as the saturn could. not even the ps1 could measure up. a game like xmen vs street fighter would lose a lot of stuff if it was on n64 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:35:34 AM #30:	Scotty_Rogers posted... no one wants a shit tier port lol. n64 used cartridges so ff7 was only possible by cutting out a lot of shit to save space nowhere near as well as the saturn could. not even the ps1 could measure up. a game like xmen vs street fighter would lose a lot of stuff if it was on n64 thats some mighty goal post moving --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956660539] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>no one wants a shit tier port lol. n64 used cartridges so ff7 was only possible by cutting out a lot of shit to save space nowhere near as well as the saturn could. not even the ps1 could measure up. a game like xmen vs street fighter would lose a lot of stuff if it was on n64</quote> thats some mighty goal post moving </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:39:03 AM #31:	the argument was whether or not x men vs street fighter could be on n64? even if it technically could have been, it woulda been shit lmao. same with ff7. and if it's shit it may as well not even be there both saturn and n64 had shit ass hardware but the latter was marketed right and the former wasn't. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956660622] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>the argument was whether or not x men vs street fighter could be on n64? even if it technically could have been, it woulda been shit lmao. same with ff7. and if it's shit it may as well not even be there both saturn and n64 had shit ass hardware but the latter was marketed right and the former wasn't. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Music_Rock_Cat 08/01/21 12:41:25 AM #32:	The main reason Sega Saturn flopped in the USA was because Sonic Xtreme got cancelled leaving the Saturn with no mainline Sonic game. Bernie Stolar the president of Sega USA denied alot of good Import games and thought 2D games made the system look bad. The Japanese Sega Saturn catalog has over 1000 games with the majority being import friendly to navigate. --- Senko No Ronde 2 for PS4 is super underrated <cite>Music_Rock_Cat posted [p:956660687] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>The main reason Sega Saturn flopped in the USA was because Sonic Xtreme got cancelled leaving the Saturn with no mainline Sonic game. Bernie Stolar the president of Sega USA denied alot of good Import games and thought 2D games made the system look bad. The Japanese Sega Saturn catalog has over 1000 games with the majority being import friendly to navigate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:41:47 AM #33:	Scotty_Rogers posted... the argument was whether or not x men vs street fighter could be on n64? even if it technically could have been, it woulda been shit lmao. same with ff7. and if it's shit it may as well not even be there both saturn and n64 had shit ass hardware but the latter was marketed right and the former wasn't. again, there is no way in hell the Saturn could have handled conkers bad fur day. and there is a reason Saturn emulation is so bad, the system was notoriously hard to develop for, even more so than the n64. --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956660698] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>the argument was whether or not x men vs street fighter could be on n64? even if it technically could have been, it woulda been shit lmao. same with ff7. and if it's shit it may as well not even be there both saturn and n64 had shit ass hardware but the latter was marketed right and the former wasn't.</quote> again, there is no way in hell the Saturn could have handled conkers bad fur day. and there is a reason Saturn emulation is so bad, the system was notoriously hard to develop for, even more so than the n64. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeLikeItHoth 08/01/21 12:46:19 AM #35:	lmao Sega trash --- FAM FOREVER. <cite>SomeLikeItHoth posted [p:956660782] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>lmao Sega trash </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:47:38 AM #36:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... again, there is no way in hell the Saturn could have handled conkers bad fur day. again, there is no way in hell the N64 could have handled those games i mentioned without nerfing shit. and in that case, saturn could have handled conker by nerfing shit. so yeah n64 and saturn trash hardware --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956660809] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>again, there is no way in hell the Saturn could have handled conkers bad fur day.</quote> again, there is no way in hell the N64 could have handled those games i mentioned without nerfing shit. and in that case, saturn could have handled conker by nerfing shit. so yeah n64 and saturn trash hardware </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:48:03 AM #37:	SomeLikeItHoth posted... lmao Sega trash --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956660819] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>SomeLikeItHoth posted... </cite> <quote>lmao Sega trash</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:48:14 AM #38:	@Scotty_Rogers take a look at the first part of this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3cQt-3kGM this happens when you disable quad/sprite distortion in the Saturn. See how trippy it is? Imagine the work the developers had to go through, and the processing power necessary for making a game like tomb raider work in the Saturn. --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956660823] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>@Scotty_Rogers take a look at the first part of this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3cQt-3kGM this happens when you disable quad/sprite distortion in the Saturn. See how trippy it is? Imagine the work the developers had to go through, and the processing power necessary for making a game like tomb raider work in the Saturn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:50:23 AM #39:	Scotty_Rogers posted... again, there is no way in hell the N64 could have handled those games i mentioned without nerfing shit. and in that case, saturn could have handled conker by nerfing shit. so yeah n64 and saturn trash hardware lmao the Saturn even needed extra hardware to handle some of those 2d fighting games (ram carts). So much for the supposed sprite king. the mortal Kombat games needed load times to handle Shang tsungs transformations (lol) and the n64 had killer instinct gold (2d pre-rendered, even more memory intensive) --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956660876] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>again, there is no way in hell the N64 could have handled those games i mentioned without nerfing shit. and in that case, saturn could have handled conker by nerfing shit. so yeah n64 and saturn trash hardware</quote>lmao the Saturn even needed extra hardware to handle some of those 2d fighting games (ram carts). So much for the supposed sprite king. the mortal Kombat games needed load times to handle Shang tsungs transformations (lol) and the n64 had killer instinct gold (2d pre-rendered, even more memory intensive) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 12:53:49 AM #40:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... lmao the Saturn even needed extra hardware to handle some of those 2d fighting games (ram carts). So much for the supposed sprite king. lmao even with expansion paks n64 still wouldn't have been able to handle them or ff7 and if you wanna talk about fighters virtua fighter > any shit n64 fighting game --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956660955] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>lmao the Saturn even needed extra hardware to handle some of those 2d fighting games (ram carts). So much for the supposed sprite king.</quote> lmao even with expansion paks n64 still wouldn't have been able to handle them or ff7 and if you wanna talk about fighters virtua fighter > any shit n64 fighting game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 08/01/21 12:56:05 AM #41:	ToadallyAwesome posted... Forget to change accounts ? oof that is so embarrassing lol How many people actually do this --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:956660996] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>ToadallyAwesome posted... </cite> <quote> Forget to change accounts ?</quote> oof that is so embarrassing lol How many people actually do this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 08/01/21 12:56:39 AM #42:	limp-bizkit-89 posted... @Scotty_Rogers take a look at the first part of this video: this happens when you disable quad/sprite distortion in the Saturn. See how trippy it is? Imagine the work the developers had to go through, and the processing power necessary for making a game like tomb raider work in the Saturn. what video --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:956661010] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>limp-bizkit-89 posted... </cite> <quote>@Scotty_Rogers take a look at the first part of this video: this happens when you disable quad/sprite distortion in the Saturn. See how trippy it is? Imagine the work the developers had to go through, and the processing power necessary for making a game like tomb raider work in the Saturn.</quote> what video </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:58:29 AM #43:	Scotty_Rogers posted... lmao even with expansion paks n64 still wouldn't have been able to handle them or ff7 and if you wanna talk about fighters virtua fighter > any shit n64 fighting game you brought up 2d fighters, not me. Now you bring up virtua fighter? Goal posts lol --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956661053] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>lmao even with expansion paks n64 still wouldn't have been able to handle them or ff7 and if you wanna talk about fighters virtua fighter > any shit n64 fighting game</quote> you brought up 2d fighters, not me. Now you bring up virtua fighter? Goal posts lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 12:59:17 AM #44:	ShyOx posted... what video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3cQt-3kGM sorry --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956661070] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>ShyOx posted... </cite> <quote>what video</quote> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FM3cQt-3kGM sorry </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 08/01/21 1:00:00 AM #45:	Why do people think the bits matter? XBox was 32-bits. Came out a lot later than the Saturn. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:956661086] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Why do people think the bits matter? XBox was 32-bits. Came out a lot later than the Saturn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 1:05:24 AM #46:	ssjevot posted... Why do people think the bits matter? XBox was 32-bits. Came out a lot later than the Saturn. true --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956661208] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite> <quote>Why do people think the bits matter? XBox was 32-bits. Came out a lot later than the Saturn.</quote> true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Polycosm 08/01/21 1:16:45 AM #48:	N64 couldn't handle FF7 in the same way that PS1 couldn't handle first-person shooters like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark or Turok 2. Different design choices for different platforms. Disc-based storage was a novel choice that wound up dominating for several generations before the industry circled back to hard drives and SD cards. It wasn't without its drawbacks (if you haven't touched a PS1 in some time, you've probably forgotten how atrocious the load times are), but I think those can be forgiven since it kicked off FMVs and made the sky the limit in terms of music. --- Thus in 2020 did Allen send forth a great flood, that destroyed the gurus and all users that lived on land, except those in azuarc. (thengamer.com/guru) <cite>Polycosm posted [p:956661476] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>N64 couldn't handle FF7 in the same way that PS1 couldn't handle first-person shooters like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark or Turok 2. Different design choices for different platforms. Disc-based storage was a novel choice that wound up dominating for several generations before the industry circled back to hard drives and SD cards. It wasn't without its drawbacks (if you haven't touched a PS1 in some time, you've probably forgotten how atrocious the load times are), but I think those can be forgiven since it kicked off FMVs and made the sky the limit in terms of music. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
limp-bizkit-89 08/01/21 1:19:57 AM #49:	Polycosm posted... N64 couldn't handle FF7 in the same way that PS1 couldn't handle first-person shooters like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark or Turok 2. Different design choices for different platforms. Disc-based storage was a novel choice that wound up dominating for several generations before the industry circled back to hard drives and SD cards. It wasn't without its drawbacks (if you haven't touched a PS1 in some time, you've probably forgotten how atrocious the load times are), but I think those can be forgiven since it kicked off FMVs and made the sky the limit in terms of music. well said --- Keep Rollin Rollin Rollin (yeah!) <cite>limp-bizkit-89 posted [p:956661536] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Polycosm posted... </cite> <quote>N64 couldn't handle FF7 in the same way that PS1 couldn't handle first-person shooters like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark or Turok 2. Different design choices for different platforms. Disc-based storage was a novel choice that wound up dominating for several generations before the industry circled back to hard drives and SD cards. It wasn't without its drawbacks (if you haven't touched a PS1 in some time, you've probably forgotten how atrocious the load times are), but I think those can be forgiven since it kicked off FMVs and made the sky the limit in terms of music.</quote> well said </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Music_Rock_Cat 08/01/21 11:54:05 PM #50:	The Sega Saturn itself is still a very cool console. While emulation is kinda in the unknown, the easiest way to emulate a Saturn is to buy the console and a Pseudo-Kai Saturn Cart. Those carts help the Saturn read burned copies and imported games for the system without taking the system apart and mod chipping it. The cart also has a Memory Card feature. 4x Speed when burning Saturn games makes them work perfectly. Sonic Xtreme getting cancelled in 1996 is still one of my saddest childhood memories but at least we got Nights Into Dreams that christmas. --- Senko No Ronde 2 for PS4 is super underrated <cite>Music_Rock_Cat posted [p:956689140] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>The Sega Saturn itself is still a very cool console. While emulation is kinda in the unknown, the easiest way to emulate a Saturn is to buy the console and a Pseudo-Kai Saturn Cart. Those carts help the Saturn read burned copies and imported games for the system without taking the system apart and mod chipping it. The cart also has a Memory Card feature. 4x Speed when burning Saturn games makes them work perfectly. Sonic Xtreme getting cancelled in 1996 is still one of my saddest childhood memories but at least we got Nights Into Dreams that christmas. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 08/01/21 11:56:38 PM #51:	Sonic Xtreme looked like it would have aged like shit but it would have been fine for 1996. This actually looks fun: https://youtu.be/6IOd0mQ-uXE Lmao that camera tho. Game basically got cancelled because the devs couldn't get this shit to run properly on Saturn. --- Da GOAT Fam 2021! <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:956689200] in The Sega S... [t:79590694]...</cite> <quote>Sonic Xtreme looked like it would have aged like shit but it would have been fine for 1996. This actually looks fun: https://youtu.be/6IOd0mQ-uXE Lmao that camera tho. Game basically got cancelled because the devs couldn't get this shit to run properly on Saturn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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