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Serious Cat 07/29/21 1:42:36 PM #51:	Lou Gherig hadn't yet been diagnosed with ALS before he voluntarily removed himself from the lineup two weeks into the season, ending his run of consecutive games played. Was he justified in making the decision himself or should he have kept going until someone else told him to stop? --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:956579437] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Lou Gherig hadn't yet been diagnosed with ALS before he voluntarily removed himself from the lineup two weeks into the season, ending his run of consecutive games played. Was he justified in making the decision himself or should he have kept going until someone else told him to stop? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AngelsNAirwav3s 07/29/21 1:43:18 PM #52:	She is a hero because she is currently the best to ever do it, and one of the most dominant gymnasts during her career. She shouldn't be criticized for choosing to sit out, its very unfortunate that she got the twisties/mental blocks at the olympics. It's not like she is just buckling under pressure, this doesn't hurt her legacy. However getting an injury and having to sit out the olympics at the last minute does not help her legacy or make her more of a hero either. --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:956579460] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>She is a hero because she is currently the best to ever do it, and one of the most dominant gymnasts during her career. She shouldn't be criticized for choosing to sit out, its very unfortunate that she got the twisties/mental blocks at the olympics. It's not like she is just buckling under pressure, this doesn't hurt her legacy. However getting an injury and having to sit out the olympics at the last minute does not help her legacy or make her more of a hero either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/29/21 1:44:20 PM #53:	CableZL posted... The definition of the word hero doesn't have that stipulation. Maybe just admit you're voluntarily adding extra stipulations in order to gatekeep. What am I gatekeeping and where do you get that I am trying to exclude someone I have zero problem with from a definition that I agree with filing her under for other reasons anyway --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:956579485] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote> The definition of the word hero doesn't have that stipulation. Maybe just admit you're voluntarily adding extra stipulations in order to gatekeep.</quote> What am I gatekeeping and where do you get that I am trying to exclude someone I have zero problem with from a definition that I agree with filing her under for other reasons anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus 07/29/21 1:44:30 PM #54:	Ok, honestly no. I respect her. But I think we need to just lay off her and let her work shit out. <cite>Cocytus posted [p:956579490] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Ok, honestly no. I respect her. But I think we need to just lay off her and let her work shit out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Winrawr 07/29/21 1:45:13 PM #55:	CableZL posted... It is relevant. The question in the topic title is: Is Simone Biles a hero/martyr? Hero? * Yes. She fits the definition. Martyr? * No. She does not fit the definition. Oh I just thought the discussion was about her action of dropping out. Not on the entirety of her life achievements, which are obviously impressive <cite>Winrawr posted [p:956579507] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>It is relevant. The question in the topic title is: Is Simone Biles a hero/martyr? Hero? * Yes. She fits the definition. Martyr? * No. She does not fit the definition.</quote>Oh I just thought the discussion was about her action of dropping out. Not on the entirety of her life achievements, which are obviously impressive </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TerraSeeker 07/29/21 1:48:01 PM #56:	No. Why would she be a hero? She bailed on her team. Maybe she needed to. Or maybe not. It doesn't matter. She didn't do anything heroic. A hero overcomes hardships instead of giving up. --- Your words are as empty as your soul <cite>TerraSeeker posted [p:956579606] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>No. Why would she be a hero? She bailed on her team. Maybe she needed to. Or maybe not. It doesn't matter. She didn't do anything heroic. A hero overcomes hardships instead of giving up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 1:48:08 PM #57:	Panthera posted... What am I gatekeeping and where do you get that I am trying to exclude someone I have zero problem with from a definition that I agree with filing her under for other reasons anyway You started out arguing that calling Simone Biles a hero is silly based on a stipulation that you voluntarily added, even though Simone Biles fits the definition of a hero. You edited your post to say that you aren't against calling her a hero based on other things after I posted that, but what you were doing originally is pretty much what gatekeeping is. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956579611] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>What am I gatekeeping and where do you get that I am trying to exclude someone I have zero problem with from a definition that I agree with filing her under for other reasons anyway</quote> You started out arguing that calling Simone Biles a hero is silly based on a stipulation that you voluntarily added, even though Simone Biles fits the definition of a hero. You edited your post to say that you aren't against calling her a hero based on other things after I posted that, but what you were doing originally is pretty much what gatekeeping is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 1:56:41 PM #58:	Winrawr posted... Oh I just thought the discussion was about her action of dropping out. Not on the entirety of her life achievements, which are obviously impressive I'm just of the mind that even though dropping out of Tokyo doesn't add to her legacy, she's still a hero and having to drop out of competition in this year's Olympics doesn't detract from that. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956579902] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Winrawr posted... </cite> <quote>Oh I just thought the discussion was about her action of dropping out. Not on the entirety of her life achievements, which are obviously impressive</quote> I'm just of the mind that even though dropping out of Tokyo doesn't add to her legacy, she's still a hero and having to drop out of competition in this year's Olympics doesn't detract from that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/29/21 2:00:10 PM #59:	CableZL posted... You started out arguing that calling Simone Biles a hero is silly based on a stipulation that you voluntarily added, even though Simone Biles fits the definition of a hero. You edited your post to say that you aren't against calling her a hero based on other things after I posted that, but what you were doing originally is pretty much what gatekeeping is. No it isn't and you're being willfully obtuse here. I'm not voluntarily adding shit, I'm assessing things myself. And there's a pretty easy example to use here to illustrate things. Will you also accuse me of gatekeeping for not calling Donald Trump a hero? Because he is undeniably admired and idealized for courage, outstanding achievements and noble qualities. He has a ton of admirers who see him as bravely fighting against the evil Democrats, the swamp and the pizzeria sex traffickers. They also tend to think of him as a genius who is trying to save America, which is a pretty noble quality. And I think we can say becoming President qualifies as an outstanding achievement. So he meets the definition if you take it at face value. I don't consider him a hero though, because I think his supporters are wildly off base in the positive qualities they assign to him, as well as very eager to ignore his flaws (and that's an issue with the dictionary definition taken uncritically, since it doesn't acknowledge that flaws exist even though I think we can all intuitively understand they matter - ie someone who meets the definition perfectly is not a hero if they also murder children for fun in their spare time). I agree that other people think he's a hero, but if you ask me if he's a hero I'll always say no (and probably add that I think saying otherwise is a lot more than just silly). Does this strike you as weird? --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:956580017] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>You started out arguing that calling Simone Biles a hero is silly based on a stipulation that you voluntarily added, even though Simone Biles fits the definition of a hero. You edited your post to say that you aren't against calling her a hero based on other things after I posted that, but what you were doing originally is pretty much what gatekeeping is.</quote> No it isn't and you're being willfully obtuse here. I'm not voluntarily adding shit, I'm assessing things myself. And there's a pretty easy example to use here to illustrate things. Will you also accuse me of gatekeeping for not calling Donald Trump a hero? Because he is undeniably admired and idealized for courage, outstanding achievements and noble qualities. He has a ton of admirers who see him as bravely fighting against the evil Democrats, the swamp and the pizzeria sex traffickers. They also tend to think of him as a genius who is trying to save America, which is a pretty noble quality. And I think we can say becoming President qualifies as an outstanding achievement. So he meets the definition if you take it at face value. I don't consider him a hero though, because I think his supporters are wildly off base in the positive qualities they assign to him, as well as very eager to ignore his flaws (and that's an issue with the dictionary definition taken uncritically, since it doesn't acknowledge that flaws exist even though I think we can all intuitively understand they matter - ie someone who meets the definition perfectly is not a hero if they also murder children for fun in their spare time). I agree that other people think he's a hero, but if you ask me if he's a hero I'll always say no (and probably add that I think saying otherwise is a lot more than just silly). Does this strike you as weird? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 2:05:19 PM #60:	Panthera posted... I'm not voluntarily adding s* LOL You literally added a stipulation to what the word "hero" means. You said this: Panthera posted... Sports aren't important enough for an athlete to be a hero on the merit of their athletic careers alone no matter how impressive they are. Again, the definition of the word "hero" doesn't have this stipulation of 'sports not being important enough'. The definition of the word is plain and clear, and has been posted in this topic. You saying Simone Biles isn't a hero 'because sports isn't important enough' is literally adding a stipulation to the word in order to exclude her from being called a hero, which is what gatekeeping is. Panthera posted... Will you also accuse me of gatekeeping for not calling Donald Trump a hero? Because he is undeniably admired and idealized for courage, outstanding achievements and noble qualities. He has a ton of admirers who see him as bravely fighting against the evil Democrats, the swamp and the pizzeria sex traffickers. They also tend to think of him as a genius who is trying to save America, which is a pretty noble quality. And I think we can say becoming President qualifies as an outstanding achievement. So he meets the definition if you take it at face value. I don't consider him a hero though, because I think his supporters are wildly off base in the positive qualities they assign to him, as well as very eager to ignore his flaws (and that's an issue with the dictionary definition taken uncritically, since it doesn't acknowledge that flaws exist even though I think we can all intuitively understand they matter - ie someone who meets the definition perfectly is not a hero if they also murder children for fun in their spare time). I agree that other people think he's a hero, but if you ask me if he's a hero I'll always say no (and probably add that I think saying otherwise is a lot more than just silly). Does this strike you as weird? Trump is absolutely a hero to bigots, conspiracy theorists, and white supremacists. They have vocalized as much ad nauseum over the past 5 years or so. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956580187] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not voluntarily adding s*</quote> LOL You literally added a stipulation to what the word "hero" means. You said this: Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>Sports aren't important enough for an athlete to be a hero on the merit of their athletic careers alone no matter how impressive they are.</quote> Again, the definition of the word "hero" doesn't have this stipulation of 'sports not being important enough'. The definition of the word is plain and clear, and has been posted in this topic. You saying Simone Biles isn't a hero 'because sports isn't important enough' is literally adding a stipulation to the word in order to exclude her from being called a hero, which is what gatekeeping is. Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>Will you also accuse me of gatekeeping for not calling Donald Trump a hero? Because he is undeniably admired and idealized for courage, outstanding achievements and noble qualities. He has a ton of admirers who see him as bravely fighting against the evil Democrats, the swamp and the pizzeria sex traffickers. They also tend to think of him as a genius who is trying to save America, which is a pretty noble quality. And I think we can say becoming President qualifies as an outstanding achievement. So he meets the definition if you take it at face value. I don't consider him a hero though, because I think his supporters are wildly off base in the positive qualities they assign to him, as well as very eager to ignore his flaws (and that's an issue with the dictionary definition taken uncritically, since it doesn't acknowledge that flaws exist even though I think we can all intuitively understand they matter - ie someone who meets the definition perfectly is not a hero if they also murder children for fun in their spare time). I agree that other people think he's a hero, but if you ask me if he's a hero I'll always say no (and probably add that I think saying otherwise is a lot more than just silly). Does this strike you as weird?</quote> Trump is absolutely a hero to bigots, conspiracy theorists, and white supremacists. They have vocalized as much ad nauseum over the past 5 years or so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 07/29/21 2:24:53 PM #61:	CableZL posted... Again, the definition of the word "hero" doesn't have this stipulation of 'sports not being important enough'. The definition of the word is plain and clear, and has been posted in this topic. You saying Simone Biles isn't a hero 'because sports isn't important enough' is literally adding a stipulation to the word in order to exclude her from being called a hero, which is what gatekeeping is. No it isn't jesus Christ. Do I seem like a hero to you? No? Then I can't fucking gatekeep the concept of being a hero. This is just utterly stupid. The definition of the word "hero" doesn't have the stipulation of "being called Panthera on GameFAQs isn't important enough" to it either but I'm pretty sure even though I am the objectively most oustanding person to have that title I'm still not a hero. Dictionary definitions are not super strict things that have to be taken hyper literally at the most basic, face value level imaginable, you're allowed to interpret whether or not something fits a definition. CableZL posted... Trump is absolutely a hero to bigots, conspiracy theorists, and white supremacists. They have vocalized as much ad nauseum over the past 5 years or so. And does this make him a hero to you or do you consider those people to be wrong for viewing him as a hero? --- Meow! <cite>Panthera posted [p:956580835] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote> Again, the definition of the word "hero" doesn't have this stipulation of 'sports not being important enough'. The definition of the word is plain and clear, and has been posted in this topic. You saying Simone Biles isn't a hero 'because sports isn't important enough' is literally adding a stipulation to the word in order to exclude her from being called a hero, which is what gatekeeping is.</quote> No it isn't jesus Christ. Do I seem like a hero to you? No? Then I can't fucking gatekeep the concept of being a hero. This is just utterly stupid. The definition of the word "hero" doesn't have the stipulation of "being called Panthera on GameFAQs isn't important enough" to it either but I'm pretty sure even though I am the objectively most oustanding person to have that title I'm still not a hero. Dictionary definitions are not super strict things that have to be taken hyper literally at the most basic, face value level imaginable, you're allowed to interpret whether or not something fits a definition. CableZL posted... </cite> <quote> Trump is absolutely a hero to bigots, conspiracy theorists, and white supremacists. They have vocalized as much ad nauseum over the past 5 years or so.</quote> And does this make him a hero to you or do you consider those people to be wrong for viewing him as a hero? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 2:37:43 PM #62:	Panthera posted... No it isn't jesus Christ. Do I seem like a hero to you? No? Then I can't f*ing gatekeep the concept of being a hero. This is just utterly stupid. The definition of the word "hero" doesn't have the stipulation of "being called Panthera on GameFAQs isn't important enough" to it either but I'm pretty sure even though I am the objectively most oustanding person to have that title I'm still not a hero. Dictionary definitions are not super strict things that have to be taken hyper literally at the most basic, face value level imaginable, you're allowed to interpret whether or not something fits a definition. You don't have to be a hero in order to attempt to gatekeep someone else from being considered one. You came into the topic saying that calling Simone Biles a hero is "silly" based on a stipulation that doesn't exist in the definition of the word hero. Panthera posted... And does this make him a hero to you or do you consider those people to be wrong for viewing him as a hero? The definition of hero doesn't have a stipulation for whether a particular person admires a person for something or not. It simply states that a hero is someone who is admired for certain things. Bigots, conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, neo-nazis, etc. have all vocalized their idolatry of Donald Trump for reasons that I consider distasteful, to say the least, but... He's a hero to them, nonetheless. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956581296] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>No it isn't jesus Christ. Do I seem like a hero to you? No? Then I can't f*ing gatekeep the concept of being a hero. This is just utterly stupid. The definition of the word "hero" doesn't have the stipulation of "being called Panthera on GameFAQs isn't important enough" to it either but I'm pretty sure even though I am the objectively most oustanding person to have that title I'm still not a hero. Dictionary definitions are not super strict things that have to be taken hyper literally at the most basic, face value level imaginable, you're allowed to interpret whether or not something fits a definition.</quote> You don't have to be a hero in order to attempt to gatekeep someone else from being considered one. You came into the topic saying that calling Simone Biles a hero is "silly" based on a stipulation that doesn't exist in the definition of the word hero. Panthera posted... </cite> <quote>And does this make him a hero to you or do you consider those people to be wrong for viewing him as a hero?</quote> The definition of hero doesn't have a stipulation for whether a particular person admires a person for something or not. It simply states that a hero is someone who is admired for certain things. Bigots, conspiracy theorists, white supremacists, neo-nazis, etc. have all vocalized their idolatry of Donald Trump for reasons that I consider distasteful, to say the least, but... He's a hero to them, nonetheless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 07/29/21 2:50:16 PM #63:	CableZL posted... I'm just of the mind that even though dropping out of Tokyo doesn't add to her legacy, she's still a hero and having to drop out of competition in this year's Olympics doesn't detract from that. If Scottie Pippin still gets flack for the time where he bailed out on his team and stopped playing halfway for one game, Biles dropping out and bailing out on her team at the Olympics will haunt her for the rest of her life. --- https://imgur.com/WmIB016 https://imgur.com/53FGj6K <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:956581707] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>I'm just of the mind that even though dropping out of Tokyo doesn't add to her legacy, she's still a hero and having to drop out of competition in this year's Olympics doesn't detract from that.</quote> If Scottie Pippin still gets flack for the time where he bailed out on his team and stopped playing halfway for one game, Biles dropping out and bailing out on her team at the Olympics will haunt her for the rest of her life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ModLogic 07/29/21 2:53:47 PM #64:	lol "hero" --- https://youtu.be/l-iLiNCScno https://imgur.com/ZngbqJn https://imgur.com/lbSi0U3 https://imgur.com/xaRYKZM <cite>ModLogic posted [p:956581822] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>lol "hero" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 07/29/21 2:54:11 PM #65:	Lol what She failed --- Common sense charged before shipping - some dude <cite>Smackems posted [p:956581834] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Lol what She failed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 3:06:07 PM #66:	Sad_Face posted... If Scottie Pippin still gets flack for the time where he bailed out on his team and stopped playing halfway for one game, Biles dropping out and bailing out on her team at the Olympics will haunt her for the rest of her life. Biles dropping out of the Olympics won't haunt her. It's better that she dropped out instead of continuing to try to compete and further hurting her team's chances at even getting silver. It's not like Biles was purposefully planning to sabotage the team. Shit happens, and she made the best decision for herself and the team. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956582174] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>If Scottie Pippin still gets flack for the time where he bailed out on his team and stopped playing halfway for one game, Biles dropping out and bailing out on her team at the Olympics will haunt her for the rest of her life.</quote> Biles dropping out of the Olympics won't haunt her. It's better that she dropped out instead of continuing to try to compete and further hurting her team's chances at even getting silver. It's not like Biles was purposefully planning to sabotage the team. Shit happens, and she made the best decision for herself and the team. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sad_Face 07/29/21 3:13:56 PM #68:	CableZL posted... Biles dropping out of the Olympics won't haunt her. It's better that she dropped out instead of continuing to try to compete and further hurting her team's chances at even getting silver. It's not like Biles was purposefully planning to sabotage the team. s* happens, and she made the best decision for herself and the team. Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. --- https://imgur.com/WmIB016 https://imgur.com/53FGj6K <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:956582379] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Biles dropping out of the Olympics won't haunt her. It's better that she dropped out instead of continuing to try to compete and further hurting her team's chances at even getting silver. It's not like Biles was purposefully planning to sabotage the team. s* happens, and she made the best decision for herself and the team.</quote> Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The-Apostle 07/29/21 3:14:54 PM #69:	She's past her prime and seriously needs to retire before she hurts her legacy worse than she already has. --- http://goo.gl/mnO36O #GoPackGo Not changing sig until NHL players are allowed to play in the Olympics. Started 2/22/2018 <cite>The-Apostle posted [p:956582414] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>She's past her prime and seriously needs to retire before she hurts her legacy worse than she already has. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GGuirao13 07/29/21 3:15:05 PM #70:	She definitely did the right thing. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>GGuirao13 posted [p:956582425] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>She definitely did the right thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/29/21 3:15:36 PM #71:	Sad_Face posted... Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. I guess the masses of support she got from her fellow Olympians are fake accounts. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:956582444] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it.</quote>I guess the masses of support she got from her fellow Olympians are fake accounts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tony_Biggie_Pun 07/29/21 3:16:36 PM #72:	She's a human being --- https://imgur.com/gallery/lUplLIO <cite>Tony_Biggie_Pun posted [p:956582474] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>She's a human being </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 3:17:36 PM #73:	Sad_Face posted... Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. Athletes far and wide are publicly showing their support and respect for her decision, so --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956582511] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it.</quote> Athletes far and wide are publicly showing their support and respect for her decision, so </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 07/29/21 3:26:32 PM #74:	Sad_Face posted... Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. Unapologetic Pizzagater never stops having bad takes, story at 11. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. https://imgur.com/eW67nT8 - Artwork by Wii_Shaker <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:956582785] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>Have you seen The Last Dance on Netflix? The documentary following Michael Jordan and his career with the Chicago Bulls? Mental health is a factor all athletes have to battle and the documentary sheds light on the ironclad mindset you need to have to win. On top of that, this was a team sport, she's not just competing for herself. No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it.</quote> Unapologetic Pizzagater never stops having bad takes, story at 11. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 07/29/21 3:32:52 PM #75:	Funkydog posted... I guess the masses of support she got from her fellow Olympians are fake accounts. CableZL posted... Athletes far and wide are publicly showing their support and respect for her decision, so I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her. --- https://imgur.com/WmIB016 https://imgur.com/53FGj6K <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:956582981] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Funkydog posted... </cite> <quote>I guess the masses of support she got from her fellow Olympians are fake accounts.</quote> CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Athletes far and wide are publicly showing their support and respect for her decision, so</quote> I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOctopus 07/29/21 3:38:11 PM #76:	I think it would've been better to compete and do mediocre than to just quit. She mightve bombed her career with this >_> Getting to the top of the top and just quitting looks bad --- https://imgur.com/nlaY1qH https://imgur.com/zHJ1OCo https://imgur.com/btBPP4E https://imgur.com/1B3bMHw https://imgur.com/2aof3ao <cite>NeonOctopus posted [p:956583147] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>I think it would've been better to compete and do mediocre than to just quit. She mightve bombed her career with this >_> Getting to the top of the top and just quitting looks bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/29/21 3:40:09 PM #77:	Sad_Face posted... I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her. Literally no single human on the planet cares what you think. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:956583211] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her.</quote>Literally no single human on the planet cares what you think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 07/29/21 3:43:00 PM #78:	Shed only be a martyr if she tried to keep going and fell and snapped her neck --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:956583293] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Shed only be a martyr if she tried to keep going and fell and snapped her neck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/29/21 3:46:21 PM #79:	JustMyOpinion posted... Tom Brady played an entire season with a torn MCL. Dont forget he also won the super bowl, with the whole world watching. But no, she isnt a hero. No athletes are. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956583381] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>Tom Brady played an entire season with a torn MCL.</quote>Dont forget he also won the super bowl, with the whole world watching. But no, she isnt a hero. No athletes are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 07/29/21 3:53:02 PM #81:	Sad_Face posted... I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her. How about you find evidence of her teammates not being okay and accepting of her decision instead of protecting. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956583575] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>I'd call that virtue signaling, but I'll concede on this. But watch the Last Dance. Pippin's situation closely mirrors Biles'. There's no way you could get me to believe that her teammates are all okay and accepting of her decision. And it will continue to haunt her.</quote>How about you find evidence of her teammates not being okay and accepting of her decision instead of protecting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/29/21 3:53:11 PM #82:	JustMyOpinion posted... Chris Seitz? Pat Tillman? Terry Fox? Pat Tillman the athlete? No. Pat Tillman the military person? Yes. Dont know the other 2 names. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956583581] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>JustMyOpinion posted... </cite> <quote>Chris Seitz? Pat Tillman? Terry Fox?</quote>Pat Tillman the athlete? No. Pat Tillman the military person? Yes. Dont know the other 2 names. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 3:53:49 PM #83:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Pat Tillman the athlete? No. Pat Tillman the military person? Yes. Protip: They're the same person --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956583602] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>Pat Tillman the athlete? No. Pat Tillman the military person? Yes.</quote>Protip: They're the same person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/29/21 3:54:04 PM #84:	Sad_Face posted... No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. Tons of athletes are showing her respect. Including her own team mates. So what are you talking about? --- There are enough attention whores on CE as it is. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:956583612] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote> No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it.</quote> Tons of athletes are showing her respect. Including her own team mates. So what are you talking about? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 07/29/21 4:45:41 PM #85:	Sad_Face posted... No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it. Surely this hot take is coming from a professional athlete and not just some guy on gamefaqs.gamespot.com, right? --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:956585084] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>Sad_Face posted... </cite> <quote>No athlete is going to respect her action. She screwed up and she knows it.</quote>Surely this hot take is coming from a professional athlete and not just some guy on gamefaqs.gamespot.com, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/29/21 4:46:12 PM #86:	CableZL posted... Protip: They're the same person Well, yah, I never said they werent so next time try to keep up. --- https://imgur.com/ZFt3WwT http://error1355.com/ce/gatorsPENSbucs.html https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:956585102] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite> <quote>Protip: They're the same person</quote>Well, yah, I never said they werent so next time try to keep up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/29/21 5:04:36 PM #87:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... Well, yah, I never said they werent so next time try to keep up. Sure, but that means gatorsPENSbucs posted... Pat Tillman? Yes No need to make the distinction --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:956585686] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>Well, yah, I never said they werent so next time try to keep up.</quote> Sure, but that means gatorsPENSbucs posted... </cite> <quote>Pat Tillman? Yes</quote> No need to make the distinction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 07/29/21 5:06:56 PM #88:	I think people giving her shit for dropping out of the Olympics are assholes. But I don't see how that makes her a hero lol --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:956585751] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>I think people giving her shit for dropping out of the Olympics are assholes. But I don't see how that makes her a hero lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 07/29/21 10:15:04 PM #89:	So I guess we need to define what constitutes a 'hero' tights: check acrobatics: check super-human feats: check some sort of 'obstacle' at some point during the arc: check 'redeeming' choices made while resolving the 'obstacle': has yet to be seen Also, I spelt 'Marty' wrong in the topic title.. I'm sorry guys --- https://imgur.com/ibuqBTh - https://imgur.com/L5vXdS5 https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - <cite>RedJackson posted [p:956595261] in Is Simone ... [t:79588189]...</cite> <quote>So I guess we need to define what constitutes a 'hero' tights: check acrobatics: check super-human feats: check some sort of 'obstacle' at some point during the arc: check 'redeeming' choices made while resolving the 'obstacle': has yet to be seen Also, I spelt 'Marty' wrong in the topic title.. I'm sorry guys </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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