Poll of the Day > If someone fell out and died at one of your favorite major amusement parks...

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UT1999
07/27/21 4:19:47 PM
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do you think you would ever go back to that amusement park again? assuming that you like amusement parks

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faramir77
07/27/21 4:21:01 PM
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I'd probably go that week. I'd hear that story and think "Oh yeah I haven't been there in a while".

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ReggieTheReckless
07/27/21 4:21:38 PM
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A kid gotten fucking eaten by an alligator at the grand floridian and I still go to disney world
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UT1999
07/27/21 4:23:16 PM
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faramir77 posted...
I'd probably go that week. I'd hear that story and think "Oh yeah I haven't been there in a while".
really? what if it was ruled that the park was at fault for the accident though?

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ReggieTheReckless
07/27/21 4:24:00 PM
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Oh, but I definitely wouldn't be going to one of these waterparks like the one that had the 10 year old kid get decapitated and the people were actually hit with criminal charges for how negligent their safety and testing procedures were

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verr%C3%BCckt_(water_slide)
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UT1999
07/27/21 4:25:00 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
Oh, but I definitely wouldn't be going to one of these waterparks like the one that had the 10 year old kid get decapitated and the people were actually hit with criminal charges for how negligent their safety and testing procedures were

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verr%C3%BCckt_(water_slide)
yeah i remember that story too.

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Dikitain
07/27/21 4:25:10 PM
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Pretty sure every amusement park has had someone die on their rides at some point.

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faramir77
07/27/21 4:25:32 PM
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UT1999 posted...
really? what if it was ruled that the park was at fault for the accident though?

You can be guaranteed that the safest time to be in an amusement park is right after a major accident.

The problem ride is shut down and they have many extra safety personnel working to make themselves look better in front of the investigators and lawyers surely to be around that week.

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Reigning_King
07/27/21 4:29:25 PM
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UT1999 posted...
really? what if it was ruled that the park was at fault for the accident though?
99% of the people who drove to the amusement park probably put themselves in greater danger just by getting on the road.

It's like when there's a plane crash or even just malfunction that makes the news and people go "Oh god I'm never flying again!" completely disregarding how many flights happen every day without a hiccup. People get tunnel vision when they sense/hear about danger and while that can be helpful in some situations in can cloud your judgment in others.
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Mead
07/27/21 4:33:42 PM
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Ive literally gone on a ride the same week that there was a gruesome accident where a girl lost both her legs

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UT1999
07/27/21 4:37:09 PM
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Mead posted...
Ive literally gone on a ride the same week that there was a gruesome accident where a girl lost both her legs
was that at the exact same park in kentucky where a girl lost both of her feet on a drop tower ride?

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Mead
07/27/21 4:39:20 PM
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UT1999 posted...
was that at the exact same park in kentucky where a girl lost both of her feet on a drop tower ride?

nope it was the superman ride at Six Flags in CA many years ago

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UT1999
07/27/21 4:43:03 PM
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Mead posted...
nope it was the superman ride at Six Flags in CA many years ago
but the ride where that girl lost both her legs, that was the one you were talking about in kentucky? i watched a short youtube info video about the one that happened in kentucky

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Mead
07/27/21 4:49:16 PM
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UT1999 posted...
but the ride where that girl lost both her legs, that was the one you were talking about in kentucky?

no Ive never been to Kentucky. It is probably the same type of ride though

edit: upon looking into it you are right it happened in KY and not CA. I was younger and always assumed it was the CA park where the accident happened, I dont think I knew they had the same ride in some of their other parks

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LinkPizza
07/27/21 4:51:10 PM
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Yes Id still go Probably a bunch
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helIy
07/27/21 4:53:17 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
Oh, but I definitely wouldn't be going to one of these waterparks like the one that had the 10 year old kid get decapitated and the people were actually hit with criminal charges for how negligent their safety and testing procedures were

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verr%C3%BCckt_(water_slide)

After the son of Kansas state legislator Scott Schwab died on the ride in 2016, amusement park safety laws were updated to require state inspection of all attractions. It was later revealed that at least 13 other people had suffered non-fatal injuries from hitting the netting above the slide on Verrckt. Criminal charges led to the arrests of several individuals, including the park's owner, operations manager, and lead ride designer. The charges were ultimately dismissed with the finding of multiple procedural issues with the case's presentation. The incident's aftermath, however, resulted in a rapid decline of the company's reputation and financial standing.

oh ffs

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OhhhJa
07/27/21 4:54:00 PM
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faramir77 posted...
You can be guaranteed that the safest time to be in an amusement park is right after a major accident.
This. And also, I'm the type of person that my logic is always "well, if this rare thing just happened, the odds of it happening again are more slim than ever"
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Veedrock-
07/27/21 4:58:18 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
This. And also, I'm the type of person that my logic is always "well, if this rare thing just happened, the odds of it happening again are more slim than ever"
Ah yes, the gambler's fallacy.

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Reigning_King
07/27/21 5:09:15 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Ah yes, the gambler's fallacy.
Nah I play table top games, priming dice definitely works. The best way to avoid a low die roll is to have just rolled low.
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OhhhJa
07/27/21 6:00:10 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Ah yes, the gambler's fallacy.
It's not really a gamble if something is incredibly rare. If something incredibly rare happens, it's probably safe to assume it won't happen again the next day
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Bugmeat
07/27/21 6:34:37 PM
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A single incident like that would not influence my decision.


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Zeus
07/27/21 6:46:40 PM
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I'd probably be more likely to go since there'd be less crowding that week, but I'd likely stay the fuck away from that ride and I might not touch it again.

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Zareth
07/27/21 6:49:40 PM
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Yeah, I've gone on Big Thunder Mountain at Disneyland every time I visit, even after the fatal crash.

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JixHedgehog
07/27/21 7:12:29 PM
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People have died at Disneyland and we were just there

I'm not surprised, the gears that run the tube ride look extremely dangerous and there are some close calls on Thunder Mountain, even after its change

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Mead
07/27/21 7:14:35 PM
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Disney has this creepy policy of doing everything they can to not allow people to be pronounced dead within the park. So people have totally died at Disneyland, just not officially

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Metalsonic66
07/27/21 7:23:30 PM
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Six Flags over Georgia

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teddy241
07/27/21 7:56:10 PM
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a kid died at the Mall Of America jumping off the log chute before it went down the last chute. I think I went on that ride 3-4 more times since then. It's a iconic ride that's been there since the opening of the mall where almost any other ride since then was replaced with something else
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Krazy_Kirby
07/27/21 8:04:14 PM
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already have. someone died on the superman ride at 6 flags in so. ca, and I went there about a year after it happened
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UT1999
07/27/21 8:17:33 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
already have. someone died on the superman ride at 6 flags in so. ca, and I went there about a year after it happened
yeah but i meant if the amusement park was found to be at fault not the rider. that was not the case here , right?

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Lokarin
07/27/21 8:35:15 PM
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What if they put up little memorial ribbons and you can pour one out whenever you pass by?

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Johnny Eagle
07/27/21 8:43:18 PM
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I might. Doubt I'd go on the ride it happened on, though

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captpackrat
07/27/21 8:46:57 PM
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There have been a bunch of deaths at Disneyland.

The People Mover was one of the most dangerous rides, despite having a top speed of 7 miles per hour. Two people were killed in separate incidents when they tried to climb between cars, fell out, and were run over by a following train. Another person was paralyzed when she climbed out to retrieve a lost hat, got left behind, tried to exit through a service door, and fell from a stairway.

Two people have drowned in the Rivers of America. One teenager snuck in booze during Grad Night, got drunk, stole a rubber boat, capsized it, and drowned. Another teen and his younger brother hid on Tom Sawyer Island until after it closed, realized they were trapped, and tried to swim across. The younger boy couldn't swim so his older brother tried to carry him across on his back, and drowned half way across. The younger brother was able to stay afloat by dog paddling until he was rescued.

Another person was killed when a metal cleat on the hull of the Columbia tore loose, striking a guest in the head. The normal inelastic hemp tie line had been replaced by a cheaper nylon rope which could stretch. The ship approached the dock too quickly and and an employee slipped the rope onto the cleat to brake the ship, something it was not designed for. The rope stretched under the load, ripping the cleat free of the wooden hull and launching into the crowd at high speed.

A 23 year old woman suffered a fatal cerebral aneurysm after riding the Indiana Jones Adventure.

A woman was decapitated on the Matterhorn. She was not properly buckled in and was thrown from the bobsled then struck by the following car. Another boy stood up during the ride and fell out; he died several days later.

A woman became ill after riding Space Mountain. At the unload area, she was unable to exit the vehicle. The cast members told her to remain seated while they removed the vehicle from the track, but she was accidentally sent through the ride a second time. She was taken to the hospital in a coma and died a week later.

One person was killed by the Monorail when they tried to sneak into the park by climbing onto the beamway. The Monorail came around a blind corner and splat.

A cast member was crushed to death by the America Sings ride, caught between a stationary platform and a revolving wall.

One person was killed on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and ten others were injured when the train derailed. The locomotive fell on top of the first car, crushing it.

Three people have committed suicide by jumping off the Disneyland Hotel.

Two people were murdered in the old parking lot, one stabbed and another shot. There have been at least two and possibly three suicides at the new Mickey & Friends parking structures.

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Metalsonic66
07/27/21 8:54:34 PM
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The happiest place on Earth

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Zareth
07/28/21 12:12:01 AM
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captpackrat posted...
Another person was killed when a metal cleat on the hull of the Columbia tore loose, striking a guest in the head. The normal inelastic hemp tie line had been replaced by a cheaper nylon rope which could stretch. The ship approached the dock too quickly and and an employee slipped the rope onto the cleat to brake the ship, something it was not designed for. The rope stretched under the load, ripping the cleat free of the wooden hull and launching into the crowd at high speed.

captpackrat posted...
One person was killed on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and ten others were injured when the train derailed. The locomotive fell on top of the first car, crushing it.
These are the only ones that weren't caused by guest behavior.

captpackrat posted...
A cast member was crushed to death by the America Sings ride, caught between a stationary platform and a revolving wall.
According to other cast members, she used to play chicken with the revolving wall, not a good idea

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LinkPizza
07/28/21 12:41:28 AM
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Zareth posted...
These are the only ones that weren't caused by guest behavior.

Really? The aneurysm one, and the space mountain one dont seem to be faults of the guests, though
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fishy071
07/28/21 1:33:08 AM
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I still would, especially since I don't go on rides where I could fall out.

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Mead
07/28/21 1:36:27 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
The happiest place on Earth

I mean its still fun as shit

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Krazy_Kirby
07/28/21 1:59:00 AM
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fishy071 posted...
I still would, especially since I don't go on rides where I could fall out.


that's not the only way you could die
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Sahuagin
07/28/21 3:45:28 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
If something incredibly rare happens, it's probably safe to assume it won't happen again the next day
you don't need the conditional, or the probably. it's "safe" to assume something incredibly rare won't happen any day, even on the day it happens.

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LinkPizza
07/28/21 3:59:57 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
you don't need the conditional, or the probably. it's "safe" to assume something incredibly rare won't happen any day, even on the day it happens.

True. But it probably seems less likely to happen again right after it happened once. Especially if safety measures are raised because it happened
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Lil_Bit83
07/28/21 8:51:12 PM
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It depends on the reason, if the reason was rider stupidity of course I would. If the reason was gross operator negligence/lack of maintenance then hell no!

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wwinterj25
07/28/21 9:06:29 PM
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UT1999 posted...
do you think you would ever go back to that amusement park again? assuming that you like amusement parks
Yes. Things happen in life we can't control.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/28/21 9:38:40 PM
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UT1999 posted...
If someone fell out and died at one of your favorite major amusement parks do you think you would ever go back to that amusement park again? assuming that you like amusement parks

Not necessarily my favorite amusement park per se, but I grew up near Great Adventure and Action Park, so I know for a fact I would go back, because I did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightnin%27_Loops
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Great_Adventure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park#Fatalities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Action_Park

In fact, I'm pretty sure we were making jokes about people dying on Lightning Loops while we were actually there.

Also, I can't remember 100% whether it was Rolling Thunder or the Runaway Train, but I remember it literally broke 30 seconds before I got on it. I was waiting on line and a fat guy who cut in front of me was so fat he straight up broke the safety harness and they had to empty the entire train and kick everyone off line. And I know one of those killed someone too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Thunder_(roller_coaster)#Accident
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adjl
07/28/21 9:50:00 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
It's not really a gamble if something is incredibly rare. If something incredibly rare happens, it's probably safe to assume it won't happen again the next day

That is the precise definition of the gambler's fallacy. A rare event happening one day does not in any way influence the chance of it happening again the next. Without external influences, it is equally likely or unlikely every single time.

It is indeed probably safe to assume that it won't happen the next day, but that assumption was just as likely to be safe on the day that it happened.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/28/21 9:50:07 PM
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Oh, and I remember I loved going on the Shockwave, in spite of the fact that we'd heard rumors that someone got their head kicked clean off their body because of it (not sure if that was just BS or real - though either way it didn't stop us from riding it).

And at least one time I was at Great Adventure I basically went back and forth between Splashwater Falls (where you're absolutely soaked to the bone with water) and Freefall (where you go up about 70 feet and then drop straight back down at full speed), because I discovered that the wind-shear from Freefall basically insta-dried me off from Splashwater, and there were like no lines on either ride that day. And I was absolutely sick as a dog later that night, either from sucking down too much polluted water or from massive chills (or tainted food, or something else), so that was a personal story of misery and I still went back again after that.


As a side note, I also have a friend who goes to Disney World fairly often, and he went on Big Thunder Mountain Railroad and it immediately caused him to start passing a kidney stone, which is apparently a thing the ride does waaay more often than you'd think any ride should. Or at least any ride that they continue to allow to stay open.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Thunder_Mountain_Railroad#Kidney_stones

He was in immense pain, had to be taken to the medical area, and he said it was basically the most painful thing he's ever experienced in his life (I can relate, I've had gall stones). And he's going back again in about a year or two (though I assume he won't ride the same ride again).
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Lil_Bit83
07/29/21 3:13:44 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Not necessarily my favorite amusement park per se, but I grew up near Great Adventure and Action Park, so I know for a fact I would go back, because I did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightnin%27_Loops
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Flags_Great_Adventure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Park#Fatalities
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_Action_Park

In fact, I'm pretty sure we were making jokes about people dying on Lightning Loops while we were actually there.

Also, I can't remember 100% whether it was Rolling Thunder or the Runaway Train, but I remember it literally broke 30 seconds before I got on it. I was waiting on line and a fat guy who cut in front of me was so fat he straight up broke the safety harness and they had to empty the entire train and kick everyone off line. And I know one of those killed someone too:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Thunder_(roller_coaster)#Accident
Lol, I've heard of Action Park, I'm amazed it got by operating the way it did for so long.

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ParanoidObsessive
07/29/21 5:34:42 PM
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Lil_Bit83 posted...
Lol, I've heard of Action Park, I'm amazed it got by operating the way it did for so long.

http://www.amazon.com/Action-Park-Andy-Mulvihill/dp/0143134515
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