Poll of the Day > CDC to again recommend everyone mask up in crowded public areas

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Kanatteru
07/30/21 4:14:36 PM
#101:


OhhhJa posted...
With over 50 percent of the country being vaccinated, I find it hard to believe the vaccine is really all that effective with the recent surge we've had. Herd immunity has historically been around 70% vaccination and we're not that far from that figure

50 is not 70 hope this helps

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streamofthesky
07/30/21 4:16:07 PM
#102:


Well, wearing a mask again in the heat sure was fun.
Couldn't even get HALF of a summer mask-free (I'm vaccinated). Thanks, anti-vax shit lords.

BTW, everyone talks about the masks, ie airborne transmission. It's been a year and a half now, any update on the danger of surfaces?
I was using antiseptic wipes on my phone and such after trips outside the past year, stopped around June, now wondering if I should start doing that again. (As in, I touch a bunch of stuff potentially coated w/ the virus, then touch my phone, and it stays on there and can infect me later on if I touch it and then touch my face...b/c of course I'm gonna touch my face).
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OhhhJa
07/30/21 4:35:10 PM
#103:


Kanatteru posted...
50 is not 70 hope this helps
But this surge is one of the worst we've had since this started and half the population is vaccinated now. Hope this helps
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Clench281
07/30/21 4:43:18 PM
#104:


Which of these options do you think would be more sad

OhhhJa is employed to sit at a keyboard and spread disinformation that he doesn't actually believe, but he depends on the income

Or

He actually believes what he says

Or

He has nothing better to do and trolls for fun

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Clench281
07/30/21 4:48:51 PM
#105:


I'm on board for #1. His persona has never, to my knowledge, ever claimed any profession or field of work. Posting things that are so clearly wrong all the time can not be fun. And I really want to hope the middle option isn't true

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DirtBasedSoap
07/30/21 4:51:32 PM
#106:


Clench281 posted...
employed to sit at a keyboard and spread disinformation that he doesn't actually believe, but he depends on the income
zeus as well. theres no way they arent disinfo agents.

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adjl
07/30/21 4:55:25 PM
#107:


streamofthesky posted...
BTW, everyone talks about the masks, ie airborne transmission. It's been a year and a half now, any update on the danger of surfaces?

Recent research has been suggesting that surface transmission is far less significant than airborne. There's still enough that disinfecting surfaces and washing your hands and whatnot are good ideas, but it's not nearly as dangerous as people were previously worried it might be.

OhhhJa posted...
With over 50 percent of the country being vaccinated, I find it hard to believe the vaccine is really all that effective with the recent surge we've had. Herd immunity has historically been around 70% vaccination and we're not that far from that figure

First of all, by no metric is over 50% of the country vaccinated. As of yesterday, 49.9% has two shots, but they won't be fully vaccinated for another two weeks. Two weeks ago, that figure was 48.9%. It's very, very close to 50%, such that rounding and saying "half the country" would be fine, but it's definitely not "over 50%."

Second, only being at 50% and not 70% means there are 67% more unvaccinated people than there should be for herd immunity to be achieved (50% unvaccinated is 2/3 larger than 30% unvaccinated). That is "far from that figure," even if we presume that the threshold is indeed 70% for Covid (some estimates are suggesting that it is, so I'm fine with that, but it may be quite a bit higher). When you're trying to reduce what's left, you see augmenting returns on each additional percentage point of reduction you apply.

You'll see that incorporated into video game mechanics sometimes. The armour stat in WoW, for example, provides less damage reduction with each additional point, leading to the belief that it has diminishing returns. In practice, however, if you calculate its impact on the final damage you take, you find that those apparent diminishing returns are just counteracting the augmenting returns inherent in any multiplicative reduction in damage, so damage reduction ultimately scales linearly per armour point. This is most obvious if you consider the difference a 1% increase makes if you're going from 99% to 100% reduction, which is why so many games implement a hard cap (75%, in WoW's case) to prevent anyone from ever reaching such levels.

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OhhhJa
07/30/21 6:24:57 PM
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Clench281
07/30/21 6:36:13 PM
#109:


OhhhJa posted...
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/30/cdc-study-shows-74percent-of-people-infected-in-massachusetts-covid-outbreak-were-fully-vaccinated.html

ItS oNlY the UnVaCcInAtEd

This was referred to in post 92 three hours ago, and already discussed. But you being late to the party is no surprise

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OhhhJa
07/30/21 6:41:37 PM
#110:


Clench281 posted...
Which of these options do you think would be more sad

OhhhJa is employed to sit at a keyboard and spread disinformation that he doesn't actually believe, but he depends on the income

Or

He actually believes what he says

Or

He has nothing better to do and trolls for fun
It's a mainstream news article, Mr. Galaxy Brain
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OhhhJa
07/30/21 6:42:54 PM
#111:


Somehow I feel like clench spends 10x the amount of time here as me but calls me sad for spending like 10 minutes a day here max lol
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Cacciato
07/30/21 8:42:40 PM
#112:


OhhhJa posted...
My opinion is no less relevant than yours
Ehhhhhhhh
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agesboy
07/30/21 9:13:19 PM
#113:


adjl posted...
I think you need to play more Fire Emblem games if you think a 1-2% chance of death isn't a problem.
this is a total non-sequitur tangent, but fun fact, a displayed 99% chance to hit in most fire emblem games is actually a 99.99% chance to hit, because the game rolls two random numbers instead of one. the average of the combined rolls is considered, and the end result out of this is that higher percentages hit more often than expected and lower percentages miss more than expected. to get a true hit rate of 99%, the displayed hit rate would have to be around 90%!

the more you know

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Clench281
07/30/21 10:17:22 PM
#114:


OhhhJa posted...
Somehow I feel like clench spends 10x the amount of time here as me but calls me sad for spending like 10 minutes a day here max lol

I don't care how much time you or I spend here. I don't care if you're less educated, less fit, less disciplined, or eat fewer eggs than me.

I do care that you spread content that causes real harm when taken up by unsuspecting readers. And that's whether you believe what you post or not.

In short, I care that you're not a good person. You're a bad person, and I have no reason to respect you, as no one should.

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Krazy_Kirby
07/30/21 10:53:13 PM
#115:


"less disciplined"

says the guy who said he would tell at his s.o. if they bought him expensive jewelry
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Clench281
07/31/21 6:35:34 AM
#116:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
"less disciplined"

says the guy who said he would tell at his s.o. if they bought him expensive jewelry

The phrasing was, quote, "I would go off on him." As explained, and as you understand from my multiple times explaining, to mean criticize harshly, for making a decision that impacts both of our finances without discussing it first.

I don't offer this explanation to you, though, because my previous post applies equally to you as well.

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adjl
07/31/21 12:24:33 PM
#117:


agesboy posted...
this is a total non-sequitur tangent, but fun fact, a displayed 99% chance to hit in most fire emblem games is actually a 99.99% chance to hit, because the game rolls two random numbers instead of one. the average of the combined rolls is considered, and the end result out of this is that higher percentages hit more often than expected and lower percentages miss more than expected. to get a true hit rate of 99%, the displayed hit rate would have to be around 90%!

the more you know

Yeah, I went into that in more detail in another post. And then Fates used some weird system that meant true hit was still higher/lower than the displayed value (for above/below 50, respectively), but didn't have quite as pronounced an effect as the 2RN system did. Knowing that really just makes all those 99% misses even more infuriating.

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