Poll of the Day > NY and Cali will require all City/State Workers to Get Vaccinated...

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pionear
07/27/21 11:10:28 AM
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Which One?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/york-city-require-city-employees-172100394.html

Or get tested weekly and wear Masks...

Do you agree with this? (Poll Question)
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EvilMegas
07/27/21 11:12:02 AM
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Good.

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Revelation34
07/27/21 11:47:18 AM
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They should include all health workers too. Be it private or public.
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ReggieTheReckless
07/27/21 12:22:06 PM
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Good
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Clench281
07/27/21 12:24:37 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Good.


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Mead
07/27/21 12:38:34 PM
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pionear posted...
Or get tested weekly and wear Masks...

important thing to highlight

And I dont even see California mentioned in the article unless I just missed it

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ParanoidObsessive
07/27/21 12:54:02 PM
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pionear posted...
Or get tested weekly and wear Masks...

I'd rather they straight up get fired.

Unless they have some officially identified and acknowledged medical condition that prevents them from being vaccinated.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/27/21 1:58:24 PM
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some health workers in CA have to get tested even with the vaccine...
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Zareth
07/27/21 2:07:38 PM
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EvilMegas posted...
Good.


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kangolcone
07/27/21 2:09:23 PM
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Republicans have spent the last 4 decades stripping rights from workers and giving employers almost sole discretion about work requirements.

Now they are mad that employers are making requirements for workers.

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pionear
07/27/21 2:28:27 PM
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Mead posted...
important thing to highlight

And I dont even see California mentioned in the article unless I just missed it

It was mentioned in a sidebar article:

https://news.yahoo.com/calif-require-vaccinations-state-workers-190939286.html
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MartianManchild
07/27/21 2:32:56 PM
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Sad day for freedom. Another step toward fascism that far too many people are blindly accepting with open arms.
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Kyuubi4269
07/27/21 2:35:38 PM
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Considering the pop density that seems fair enough, though I'd assume people would be sensible without legal enforcement. Mask requirement dropped in the UK but half of people are still masked.
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Mead
07/27/21 3:06:54 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
I'd assume people would be sensible without legal enforcement.

then you havent been paying attention

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kangolcone
07/27/21 3:49:51 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
Sad day for freedom. Another step toward fascism that far too many people are blindly accepting with open arms.

Its not facism. None of the jobs are compulsory employment. Unvaccinated people who choose not to undergo testing are welcome to quit and find employment elsewhere.

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Clench281
07/27/21 4:00:38 PM
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kangolcone posted...
Its not facism. None of the jobs are compulsory employment. Unvaccinated people who choose not to undergo testing are welcome to quit and find employment elsewhere.

You're using the wrong definition of fascism. Fascism really means "thing I don't like"

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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 4:05:38 PM
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Too bad that's as far as it goes. They should require everyone in those states to get vaccinated.
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Mead
07/27/21 4:19:01 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Too bad that's as far as it goes. They should require everyone in those states to get vaccinated.

how would that be enforceable though? I dont disagree Im just trying to imagine what it might look like

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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 4:29:25 PM
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Mead posted...
how would that be enforceable though? I dont disagree Im just trying to imagine what it might look like
I'm sure they know who got vaccinated, so they'd use the list to find the people who aren't vaccinated. Tell them they need to get vaccinated and if they refuse, throw their asses in jail, strap them down and forcefully inject them with it. Let them out after a month behind bars.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/27/21 7:28:17 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
Too bad that's as far as it goes. They should require everyone in those states to get vaccinated.


do you want people to revolt?
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Mead
07/27/21 7:30:44 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
do you want people to revolt?

yeah but not in the way you think

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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 7:37:55 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
do you want people to revolt?
Yeah. If they're so stupid and crazy that they'll respond with violence to someone making them protect themselves and everyone they go around from a horrible disease, I'd feel much better with their psycho asses spending years in prison.
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Revelation34
07/27/21 7:39:24 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
some health workers in CA have to get tested even with the vaccine...


EvilMegas posted...
Good.


MartianManchild posted...
Sad day for freedom. Another step toward fascism that far too many people are blindly accepting with open arms.


Ok, Joker.

CaptainStrong posted...

I'm sure they know who got vaccinated, so they'd use the list to find the people who aren't vaccinated. Tell them they need to get vaccinated and if they refuse, throw their asses in jail, strap them down and forcefully inject them with it. Let them out after a month behind bars.


So you literally want Nazi style experimentation.
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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 7:46:19 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
So you literally want Nazi style experimentation.
I do? I never said anything like that.
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Revelation34
07/27/21 8:00:31 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...

I do? I never said anything like that.


What you described is what the Nazis did.
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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 8:27:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
What you described is what the Nazis did.
They mandated vaccination and forcefully injected vaccines into people who refused to get it of their own accord? Well, a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess. But for some reason I doubt you're telling the truth and you're just being hyperbolic.
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Revelation34
07/27/21 8:31:00 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...

They mandated vaccination and forcefully injected vaccines into people who refused to get it of their own accord? Well, a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess. But for some reason I doubt you're telling the truth and you're just being hyperbolic.


They strapped people down and injected them.
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RoboXgp89
07/27/21 8:45:39 PM
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why do people who aren't afraid of covid have to get it tho?

I was the first to have it, living near NYC and I have no desire to get vaccinated even if it kills me and my loved ones, it's better for the species if weak genetics don't continue.

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Mead
07/27/21 8:57:34 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
why do people who aren't afraid of covid have to get it tho?

so they dont spread it to vulnerable people who dont have the option of getting the vaccine and it doesnt have the opportunity to easily propagate and mutate into more dangerous variants

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SunWuKung420
07/27/21 8:58:42 PM
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Obey!

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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 8:59:40 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
They strapped people down and injected them.
And what were they injecting them with? Cuz I have a feeling it wasn't a vaccine that's been heavily tested and proven to be safe and effective. What you said is as silly as telling a dude who had sex with a woman that he's like a rapist because rapists have sex too. One part of the what happened might be the same, but you're leaving out some pretty fucking important details.
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Mead
07/27/21 9:00:39 PM
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RoboXgp89 posted...
it's better for the species if weak genetics don't continue.

nobody wants to hear that Nazi logic

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Reigning_King
07/27/21 9:25:39 PM
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What ever happened to "my body, my choice"? I guess personal autonomy isn't a value after all.

Mead posted...
opportunity to easily propagate and mutate into more dangerous variants
Literally not even how it works btw. I guess spreading misinformation is fine too depending on what side you're on.
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Arcturusisnow
07/27/21 9:29:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
They strapped people down and injected them.
With a vaccine that was helpful to everyone on the planet? Somehow, I think not.
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Arcturusisnow
07/27/21 9:30:38 PM
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Mead posted...
so they dont spread it to vulnerable people who dont have the option of getting the vaccine and it doesnt have the opportunity to easily propagate and mutate into more dangerous variants
Don't answer him. He is an idiot that is refusing to get the vaccine because, well, there is no good reason there.
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Arcturusisnow
07/27/21 9:32:07 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
What ever happened to "my body, my choice"? I guess personal autonomy isn't a value after all.

Literally not even how it works btw. I guess spreading misinformation is fine too depending on what side you're on.
"My body, my choice" doesn't work when your choice kills people that have nothing to do with you. That is you simply choosing to murder people because you are lazy and stupid. And that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS! FoxNews isn't your friend, bro.
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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 9:36:36 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
What ever happened to "my body, my choice"? I guess personal autonomy isn't a value after all.
Whatever happened to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"? You don't have any of those three unalienable rights if you're dead because a big chunk of the country doesn't want to take any precautions during a pandemic.
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Reigning_King
07/27/21 9:40:22 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
"My body, my choice" doesn't work when your choice kills people that have nothing to do with you. That is you simply choosing to murder people because you are lazy and stupid. And that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS! FoxNews isn't your friend, bro.
But a woman having her unborn baby that shares her blood killed is totally fine? Hahaha, god you can't make this shit up. Also you might want to look up the definition of murder and not throw around a word like that so carelessly. The people who were pissing themselves on command when the media told them to have gotten the shot by now and the rest have decide to "take their chances" (the same way someone "takes their chances" of getting struck by lightning when they go outside on a cloudy day). Leave it at that.

No one ever tried to force you goons not to take the shot, you have no grounds to do the reverse. Not in America anyways, head over to China or something if you want the government to control every bit of your life.
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OhhhJa
07/27/21 9:40:48 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
Don't answer him. He is an idiot that is refusing to get the vaccine because, well, there is no good reason there.
I mean, I'm vaccinated, but generally viruses mutate into less lethal variants. It's virology 101. It doesn't make sense for viruses to evolve to be more lethal because if everyone dies then the virus dies as well
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Judgmenl
07/27/21 9:43:25 PM
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Makes sense. I bet Republicans think the vaccine is the mark of the beast or something.

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Revelation34
07/27/21 9:48:46 PM
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Reigning_King posted...

But a woman having her unborn baby that shares her blood killed is totally fine? Hahaha, god you can't make this shit up. Also you might want to look up the definition of murder and not throw around a word like that so carelessly. The people who were pissing themselves on command when the media told them to have gotten the shot by now and the rest have decide to "take their chances" (the same way someone "takes their chances" of getting struck by lightning when they go outside on a cloudy day). Leave it at that.

No one ever tried to force you goons not to take the shot, you have no grounds to do the reverse. Not in America anyways, head over to China or something if you want the government to control every bit of your life.


The irony of this post is that people like you call abortion murder.
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KodyKeir
07/27/21 9:49:32 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
do you want people to revolt?

Mead posted...
yeah but not in the way you think

https://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs

Also, watching the CDC eat crow today and acknowledge that yes, you still have to wear a mask even when fully vaccinated, was pure schadenfreude.

Of course they are not acknowledging that they fucked up, and instead are trying to say it is new data from the delta strain that has fueled this change in policy; we knew before the vaccine rollout that mask use would have to continue until the majority of the world's population had their shot, and not just those within our own borders. The stance against mask wearing was always a political one; pandemic planning under both Bush (W.) and Obama saw the administration push back against expert recommendations in favour of mask wearing.

Reigning_King posted...
spreading misinformation

That's actually exactly how it works there, King. Take a grade nine biology class maybe.

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OhhhJa
07/27/21 9:52:36 PM
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If we had just let covid-19 run its course and gone on with our lives, I fully believe it would've burned itself out like the last SARS outbreak. We've dragged it out by having lockdowns, masks, etc
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Reigning_King
07/27/21 9:53:17 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
The irony of this post is that people like you call abortion murder.
I'm pro abortion but strongly anti-pro choice actually. And besides I know enough to know the definition of murder so I wouldn't use it where it didn't fit.

KodyKeir posted...
That's actually exactly how it works there, King. Take a grade nine biology class maybe.
Shows what you know. The term you're looking for is virology, not biology, viruses aren't living creatures.
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CaptainStrong
07/27/21 10:00:59 PM
#45:


OhhhJa posted...
If we had just let covid-19 run its course and gone on with our lives, I fully believe it would've burned itself out like the last SARS outbreak. We've dragged it out by having lockdowns, masks, etc
We've dragged it out by having half-assed and unenforced lockdowns and mask mandates, not by doing nothing and letting the virus infect everyone and kill waaaaay more people.
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KodyKeir
07/27/21 10:08:59 PM
#46:


Reigning_King posted...
The term you're looking for is virology,

Virology is a college level course; they teach about mutations in grade nine biology, which you would know if you had taken it.

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Reigning_King
07/27/21 10:12:18 PM
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KodyKeir posted...
Virology is a college level course; they teach about mutations in grade nine biology, which you would know if you had taken it.
Your high school didn't even have virology classes and you're trying to lecture ME?
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Krazy_Kirby
07/27/21 10:13:49 PM
#48:


Reigning_King posted...

I'm pro abortion but strongly anti-pro choice actually. And besides I know enough to know the definition of murder so I wouldn't use it where it didn't fit.


what?
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KodyKeir
07/27/21 10:21:26 PM
#49:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
what?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/79573893

That should add context

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adjl
07/27/21 11:02:19 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
Literally not even how it works btw.

Let me guess, "viruses tend to mutate to be less lethal"? That seems to have been a favourite phrase over the past year among people that are trying to pretend they understand immunology and evolution.

RoboXgp89 posted...
I have no desire to get vaccinated even if it kills me and my loved ones, it's better for the species if weak genetics don't continue.

Why do you believe that susceptibility to Covid infections has a genetic basis? For that matter, even if it is, those genes do not confer a selective advantage or disadvantage in a world where vaccines exist, so trying to describe them as "strong" or "weak" is just a fundamental misunderstanding of how evolution works.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
I'd assume people would be sensible without legal enforcement. Mask requirement dropped in the UK but half of people are still masked.

Yeah, that assumption doesn't really work in the US. The CDC announced that masks weren't required for fully-vaccinated people (and only fully-vaccinated people) at a point when that described ~30% of the country, and within less than a month pretty much everyone had given up on masks. Now, cases are surging again (they're still only just barely flirting with 50% full vaccination) and it's a major uphill battle to try to get people to listen to restrictions again now that they need to be re-implemented.

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