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Doe
07/25/21 12:20:25 AM
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It's not any number that is a string of 9s because 0.999... is infinite 9s. So what is it?

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admo
07/26/21 1:47:18 PM
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.999.... is a string of nines. Which equals 1. So there is no answer to your question. You are asking what is the number between 1 and 1. It's nonsensical.

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Solar_Crimson
07/26/21 1:47:56 PM
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Ask me again a googolplex years after the universe ends.

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nfearurspecimn
07/26/21 2:12:14 PM
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0.00...1

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admo
07/26/21 2:49:11 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
0.00...1

That's not even a thing. Might as well say 0.00c#]@

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Spidey5
07/26/21 2:49:30 PM
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Sariana21
07/26/21 2:53:03 PM
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Obviously its 42.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 2:54:19 PM
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Sariana21 posted...
Obviously its 42.
Ah yes

a breath of fresh air, that one is. The answer to lifes greatest mystery....!

Wait..... what was that mystery again?????
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Robot2600
07/26/21 2:54:42 PM
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.999... is just another way to write "1"

just like 1/3 = .333...

so hard

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 2:55:34 PM
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This is what these topics sound like in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkP_OGDCLY0

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GMAK2442
07/26/21 3:02:13 PM
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0.001

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Garioshi
07/26/21 3:04:49 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
0.00...1
This is the limit of 1/10^n as n approaches infinity. Any idea what that becomes?

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tiornys
07/26/21 3:05:46 PM
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0.999... <= 1 <= 1

So, arguably, 1. Or you can get infintesimals involved, but on the real numbers the answer is either 1 or undefined, depending on how you define "between".
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Paragon21XX
07/26/21 3:06:48 PM
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Here's the entire set of numbers that are between 0.999... and 1:
{ }

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newhorrorguy
07/26/21 3:08:47 PM
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Fuck infinites. I mean, they make sense and are mathmatically valid, but fuck them all the same.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 3:10:03 PM
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tiornys posted...
0.999... <= 1 <= 1

So, arguably, 1. Or you can get infintesimals involved, but on the real numbers the answer is either 1 or undefined, depending on how you define "between".

Infinitesimals aren't algebraic numbers and you can't use them in inequality or equality statement statements. That's like saying infinity = infinity. It doesn't make any sense.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 3:13:49 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
Absolute fools are just fools

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tiornys
07/26/21 3:14:47 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Infinitesimals aren't algebraic numbers and you can't use them in inequality or equality statement statements. That's like saying infinity = infinity. It doesn't make any sense.
Fair. I'm not well versed in them, just aware they exist. I assume there's some sort of parallel construction you could do with them if you wanted to?

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 3:17:21 PM
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tiornys posted...
Fair. I'm not well versed in them, just aware they exist. I assume there's some sort of parallel construction you could do with them if you wanted to?

There is a number that is infinitely close to 1 but isn't 1 but the number isn't 0.999...

Infinitesimals are just the "why isn't 1/0 = infinity" answer in a way that that makes sense in the set of hyperreals.

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newhorrorguy
07/26/21 3:22:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There is a number that is infinitely close to 1 but isn't 1 but the number isn't 0.999...
No, it is .999 repeating. That is the closest number to 1, because it IS 1.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 3:27:03 PM
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newhorrorguy posted...
No, it is .999 repeating. That is the closest number to 1, because it IS 1.

I specifically said "a number infinitely close to 1 but isn't 1" obviously 1, or 0.999... is the closest number to 1 while also being 1.

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Protopet
07/26/21 3:29:39 PM
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Oh, we're doing this again. It's been a while.

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tiornys
07/26/21 3:30:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
There is a number that is infinitely close to 1 but isn't 1 but the number isn't 0.999...

Infinitesimals are just the "why isn't 1/0 = infinity" answer in a way that that makes sense in the set of hyperreals.
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Gwynevere
07/26/21 3:40:06 PM
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There is no number between 1 and 0.999... because 0.999... isnt actually a number itself, it's a limit. Specifically the result of 1-10^-n as n goes to infinity. And that limit is 1

You can see it here, that this number approaches 1 extremely quickly even at low values of n:

Any number on this line does not actually equal 1, but it approaches 1. And the line itself represents 0.999... going on forever


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J03can
07/26/21 3:40:44 PM
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It doesn't fucking matter

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Trumble
07/26/21 3:40:54 PM
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Your mom's weight in tons.

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RedJackson
07/26/21 3:42:07 PM
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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 4:00:09 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
because 0.999... isnt actually a number itself, it's a limit

Incorrect. 0.999... is a constant numeric value. Numbers cannot "approach" anything they look like horizonal lines if you graph them.

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tiornys
07/26/21 4:34:18 PM
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Fundamentally, "0.999..." is just a relatively confusing way of writing "1". Kind of like how 2 * 1/2 is a way of writing 1, but less straightforward.
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Gwynevere
07/26/21 7:09:53 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Incorrect. 0.999... is a constant numeric value. Numbers cannot "approach" anything they look like horizonal lines if you graph them.
Numbers cant approach anything, but limits do, and that's exactly what 0.999... is.

The graph of 1-10^-n isn't actually horizontal, it's asymptotic, with its asymptote being 1.

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 8:44:21 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
Numbers cant approach anything, but limits do, and that's exactly what 0.999... is.
Again, incorrect. 0.999... is not a limit. It is a Number. Specifically it is a real rational number. All real numbers are perfectly horizonal lines. Even irrational and transcendental numbers.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 8:45:25 PM
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0.9991

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MutantJohn
07/26/21 8:50:47 PM
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You can express .999... as a limit, however. It's fundamentally just a simple infinite series that converges

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tiornys
07/26/21 8:52:56 PM
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0.999... is fundamentally 1. You can evaluate the fact that it is 1 by summing the infinite series that its digits represent.
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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 8:53:58 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
You can express .999... as a limit, however. It's fundamentally just a simple infinite series that converges

0.999... is a numerical constant value.

The limit as x = 1 > infinity of 9/10^x evaluates to 0.999... but 0.999... itself is a value and not a limit.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 8:57:21 PM
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Depending on the application & equation

.999 =\= 1
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MutantJohn
07/26/21 8:59:53 PM
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I think you're confused about divergent vs convergent series

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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 9:01:14 PM
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MutantJohn posted...
I think you're confused about divergent vs convergent series
You're confused about limits. Limits are limits. Numbers are numbers. 0.999... is a number.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 9:02:10 PM
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You can also have a true .999

or a true infinite string

or you can have a runoff of random numbers

Theyre very different.

.9996... or .9995... or above =\= could be rounded . Depending. But 0.9994:.. or below is really not a one, depending.

Depending on the application. You want 1 or above within a reasonable margin of error.

Actually, depending on the equation, whether you are below or above one is critical.
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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 9:07:34 PM
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You can also just make shit up and assert they've always existed like an inverted double Mobius .999...

Actually, when the crow screams 3 times at midnight, even .8 is equal to 1 by the Infinicrow Superimposition.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 9:09:02 PM
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I edited my post
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Tyranthraxus
07/26/21 9:11:30 PM
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I also edited my post.

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 9:11:45 PM
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Phantom36
07/26/21 9:12:26 PM
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.999 =/= 1
.99999999999 =/= 1
.999999 to a billion places =/= 1

.99999.... repeating infinitely does = 1

Hard concept for some to grasp

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 9:13:44 PM
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You can botch your math & end up with an infinite string instead of a true 1 tho. So
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BuckVanHammer
07/26/21 9:13:57 PM
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.9.9

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Xethuminra
07/26/21 9:14:56 PM
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BuckVanHammer posted...
.9.9
Now were cookin
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clyde_frog
07/26/21 9:34:43 PM
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Phantom36 posted...
.999 =/= 1
.99999999999 =/= 1
.999999 to a billion places =/= 1

.99999.... repeating infinitely does = 1

Hard concept for some to grasp

But the entire concept of limits in calculus is that a variable can approach a number without ever becoming that number. There would theoretically be an infinite amount of numbers between whatever 0.999 is and 1.

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