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Swagnet0
07/22/21 7:54:37 AM
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why...


I trying to think but drawing a couple blanks as far I can see no one has been on MJ level dude was an once in an eon occurence imo

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R1masher
07/22/21 7:56:19 AM
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Bruh, Bieber got that big dick energy without all that weirdo kid stuff

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 7:57:51 AM
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R1masher posted...
Bruh, Bieber got that big dick energy without all that weirdo kid stuff
bieber is on tape dropping n bombs. fuck him

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R1masher
07/22/21 7:59:47 AM
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Swagnet0 posted...
bieber is on tape dropping n bombs. fuck him

is he? Well then

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Wii_Shaker
07/22/21 8:02:31 AM
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You're never going to see anything on that level post-internet.

Too many other acts to be made aware of. Nobody is ever going to get that big in the music industry.

Especially not with cancel culture being a reality for many celebs.

It's a miracle people looked the other way for MJ as it is.

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Winrawr
07/22/21 8:04:50 AM
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literally anyone can rap, most people can't sing or dance like MJ

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 8:10:05 AM
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Winrawr posted...
literally anyone can rap, most people can't sing or dance like MJ
what does rapping have to do with anything tho..

literally anyone can rap, most people can't write rap like nas

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Winrawr
07/22/21 8:20:00 AM
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Swagnet0 posted...
Winrawr posted...
what does rapping have to do with anything tho..

literally anyone can rap, most people can't write rap like nas
Because to be a star like MJ you need to be able to sing, dance, write music, and be extremely famous. Most stars nowadays don't have those skills, especially because rap is pervasive. Rap artists can't write music, just rap. They can't write melodies whatsoever and all of their work is collaboration work.
Rap is fundamentally a percussion technique, and you can't dance while rapping. It is essentially a drum solo with lyrics
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SomeLikeItHoth
07/22/21 8:26:49 AM
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Hopefully we never get another MJ again. The last thing the world needs is another A list serial child abuser.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 8:28:44 AM
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chris brown exists.

and your assessment of rap is lolworthy.

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Winrawr
07/22/21 8:41:36 AM
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Swagnet0 posted...
chris brown exists.

and your assessment of rap is lolworthy.
yeah yeah, tell me how many rap artists break into other genres. they don't, because they can't lol

it's a talentless genre, and the only people who listen to it have never picked up an instrument and tried to write a piece of music in their life

i'm not sure why you bring up chris brown, I know MJ was controversial but beating women wont fly today
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Swagnet0
07/22/21 8:52:02 AM
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next

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WingsOfGood
07/22/21 8:53:31 AM
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Taylor Swift.

Don't ask the question if you don't like the answer.
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Nukazie
07/22/21 8:54:00 AM
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too many 'performers' after mj became a hit but if i had to choose, i say bruno mars?

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 8:54:27 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Taylor Swift.

Don't ask the question if you don't like the answer.
I need a real answer first theres a taylor swift in every era of music only one MJ

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FortuneCookie
07/22/21 10:06:44 AM
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The system right now is such that you can't really have breakout stars. Also, music in general is more expedient.

No, I'm not being an old man who thinks music was better in his day. Objectively, songs had greater appeal and staying power. Today, the majority of songs are meant to get a reaction for the moment and move on.

It's the same across all fields of entertainment, really. Cartoons are cheap expedient animation meant to satisfy for the moment. Live action movies are mostly reboots and superhero continuations. The same is true of video games.

It's all about that business model and getting the maximum output for minimum input. It's better to serve McDonald's than to serve choice stake.
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Guerrilla Soldier
07/22/21 10:10:33 AM
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because no one's as good

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
07/22/21 10:49:46 AM
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Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson are in the top three.

Idk who else tho
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Swagnet0
07/22/21 12:27:09 PM
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...
because no one's as good
and the question is "why" boomer

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1NfamousACE_2
07/22/21 12:28:10 PM
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Chris Brown would be bigger if Rihanna never attacked him and he had to defend himself

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 12:30:36 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
Chris Brown would be bigger if Rihanna never attacked him and he had to defend himself
or if he wasnt visually a massive cokehead, or if he didnt threaten other superstars with torture, or if he didnt admit to being a stalker, or if he didn't have a whole secret side baby or if he didn't rep piru bloods, or if he didnt have his dog euthanized to get rid of evidence of its attack...

etc

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1NfamousACE_2
07/22/21 12:33:48 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
1NfamousACE_2 posted...
or if he wasnt visually a massive cokehead, or if he didnt threaten other superstars with torture, or if he didnt admit to being a stalker, or if he didn't have a whole secret side baby or if he didn't rep piru bloods, or if he didnt have his dog euthanized to get rid of evidence of its attack...

etc

but it was the Rihanna situation

all great musicians do Coke

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weekoldhotdog
07/22/21 12:34:27 PM
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I was going to say Lady Gaga but she doesn't dance like MJ, but she comes super close imo

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 12:35:03 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
but it was the Rihanna situation

all great musicians do Coke
do they all have extremely pronounced cheekbones that they didnt have just a few year prior in their career?

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PatrickMahomes
07/22/21 12:35:43 PM
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talent + nobody is in it for the soul of the music anymore, just money and computer generated "instruments"

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1NfamousACE_2
07/22/21 12:39:35 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
do they all have extremely pronounced cheekbones that they didnt have just a few year prior in their career?

MJ did

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 12:40:34 PM
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...
MJ did
true he had decades of good will built up tho

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averagejoel
07/22/21 12:42:49 PM
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that depends on how you define "MJs level"

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KILBOTz
07/22/21 12:49:57 PM
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Rihana can beat him in lifetime sales still.

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KStateKing17
07/22/21 1:00:37 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
do they all have extremely pronounced cheekbones that they didnt have just a few year prior in their career?
There are a number of drug addicted superstars in the music industry throughout every genre. Chris Brown fucked himself over with all the other stuff, but fucking with cocaine isn't unique at all.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 1:01:43 PM
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KStateKing17 posted...
There are a number of drug addicted superstars in the music industry throughout every genre. Chris Brown fucked himself over with all the other stuff, but fucking with cocaine isn't unique at all.
see the other 8 things I mentioned in my post.

the cocaine usage leads to those.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 1:02:21 PM
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and the question was why is chris brown on MJs level not is it ok for chris brown to use coke lol

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Cocytus
07/22/21 1:03:00 PM
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eston
07/22/21 1:03:44 PM
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MJ's entire life was about the fame, starting when he was a child. If there was going to be another one like him we'd likely already know who it is.

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CableZL
07/22/21 1:04:54 PM
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Winrawr posted...
literally anyone can rap, most people can't sing or dance like MJ

Nah, rapping isn't someone that just anyone can do. I've heard plenty of people try and fail miserably.

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_Rinku_
07/22/21 1:06:20 PM
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Really, no one's gonna talk about Joe Jackson? Fucking evil human being, no doubt, but that's probably part of why you don't see entertainers on that level now. And I think that's a good thing. No one should have to endure the horrific abuse MJ did just to be a "star."
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Swagnet0
07/22/21 1:07:05 PM
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CableZL posted...
Nah, rapping isn't someone that just anyone can do. I've heard plenty of people try and fail miserably.
this

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KILBOTz
07/22/21 1:07:44 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
Rihanna sitting at 250 million. MJ's at over 1 billion..........................

where are you seeing that? I dont see anything claiming even 400m for MJ, most in the 300-350m range

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weekoldhotdog
07/22/21 1:08:44 PM
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TC welches harder than grape juice

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KStateKing17
07/22/21 1:16:19 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
see the other 8 things I mentioned in my post.

the cocaine usage leads to those.
The other things were acknowledged and your post still doesn't make too much sense. The violence and abuse can absolutely kill careers, but things like drug abuse and illegitimate children are pretty common and doesn't necessarily lead to everything else you mentioned.

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Dark_SilverX
07/22/21 1:16:55 PM
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Lebron

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KILBOTz
07/22/21 2:21:31 PM
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...
@KILBOTz
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/6812781/michael-jackson-thriller-30x-multi-platinum-album

looking deeper a lot of sources i was looking at appear to be using 10-15 year old data (including wikipedia). Were 2/3s of all MJ sales post humous? That just seems crazy.

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MrNintendo1213
07/22/21 2:26:31 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
The system right now is such that you can't really have breakout stars. Also, music in general is more expedient.

No, I'm not being an old man who thinks music was better in his day. Objectively, songs had greater appeal and staying power. Today, the majority of songs are meant to get a reaction for the moment and move on.

It's the same across all fields of entertainment, really. Cartoons are cheap expedient animation meant to satisfy for the moment. Live action movies are mostly reboots and superhero continuations. The same is true of video games.

It's all about that business model and getting the maximum output for minimum input. It's better to serve McDonald's than to serve choice stake.

"I'm not being an old guy saying everything back in my day was better. But everything back in my day was better."

Anyway the real answer is the internet and the massively larger amount of content available. There are thousands of times as many options for entertainment so it is very hard for everyone to be enjoying the same thing.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 2:30:06 PM
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MrNintendo1213 posted...
"I'm not being an old guy saying everything back in my day was better. But everything back in my day was better."
lmao exactly.

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SSJPurple
07/22/21 2:32:23 PM
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Winrawr posted...
literally anyone can rap

Well shit dude you want to make some money? If anyone can rap lets get you into a recording booth and make a few million bucks real quick, ill be your manager.

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Swagnet0
07/22/21 2:33:27 PM
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@Winrawr

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WingsOfGood
07/22/21 2:34:33 PM
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Swagnet0 posted...
I need a real answer first theres a taylor swift in every era of music only one MJ

Who was the other Taylor Swifts?

She has stayed relevant since she was a teenager to age 30 winning awards and changing her whole musical style to the point where she is more famous as her older self than she was when she was a teen and that is saying something cause she was huge as a teen.

There is a Britney of every era. Someone who is huge as a teen than dwindles down and only is somewhat relevant for what they did in their past.

Taylor literally released 3 new albums this year alone which shattered records and won awards.
She hasn't even hit her ceiling.

She will end her life being more famous than MJ could ever imagine.
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