Current Events > Patients dying from COVID19; doctor please give me the vaccine

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Damn_Underscore
07/22/21 12:14:40 PM
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Umbreon posted...
If you willingly followed the guy who said neo Nazis were "very fine people" is not that a disqualifier for being considered good?

Ok, then call them bad. But they are not inherently bad. That is the point. They get their information from a certain set of sources and that fully shapes how they view the world.

The sports team politics bullshit is whats wrong with politics today. People are just hating each other more and more.

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Stewman_Magoo
07/22/21 12:42:24 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...


The sports team politics bullshit is whats wrong with politics today. People are just hating each other more and more.

Well who could possibly be responsible for that

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kelemvor
07/22/21 12:51:07 PM
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Stewman_Magoo posted...
Well who could possibly be responsible for that

It's not just the MAGA Trumpers resisting the vaccine though (most of them probably are). There is a larger story. Even the African American community is skeptical of the vaccine and are getting vaccinated in much lower numbers than you would think.
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BeantownHero
07/22/21 12:55:31 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...

It's not just the MAGA Trumpers resisting the vaccine though (most of them probably are). There is a larger story. Even the African American community is skeptical of the vaccine and are getting vaccinated in much lower numbers than you would think.

it ain't AA loudly bucking the vaccine and anyone who advocates for it, only to ask for it upon death.

Also, skepticism in a health care community riddled with historic racial abuse is somewhat different then allowing newsmax and OAN to convince you Bill Gates and joe biden teamed up to inject everyone with 5G microchip trackers

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Stewman_Magoo
07/22/21 1:01:43 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...

It's not just the MAGA Trumpers resisting the vaccine though (most of them probably are). There is a larger story. Even the African American community is skeptical of the vaccine and are getting vaccinated in much lower numbers than you would think.

...what does that have to do with the 'sports team' partisanship that is currently ruining Murica?

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Umbreon
07/22/21 1:05:07 PM
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BeantownHero posted...
Also, skepticism in a health care community riddled with historic racial abuse is somewhat different then allowing newsmax and OAN to convince you Bill Gates and joe biden teamed up to inject everyone with 5G microchip trackers


This.

I was skeptical myself... but then I saw that nothing was happening to the elderly in significant numbers(Yes I'm sure one person in the world had an allergic reaction, don't shove an article in my face claiming that's the norm), and said "Yeah okay, seems legit. Let's get this vaccine."

We've had months of the elderly taking vaccines as evidence of them working. If you're still "skeptical" in mid 2021, you're probably anti-vax.

The "pawns" went first, and they're just fine. What are you waiting for?

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CableZL
07/22/21 1:06:47 PM
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The only thing I was skeptical about wrt to the covid vaccines was anything Donald Trump had to say about them.

Nobody should take medical advice from a guy who said windmill noises cause cancer.

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Machete
07/22/21 1:08:02 PM
#59:


CableZL posted...
The only thing I was skeptical about wrt to the covid vaccines was anything Donald Trump had to say about them.

Nobody should take medical advice from a guy who said windmill noises cause cancer.


The rule of thumb is that if deranged donald says sonething, it isn't true.
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Damn_Underscore
07/22/21 1:11:33 PM
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You think right wingers are the only people responsible for the political division in America? And yes, it is possible to not be as wrong as someone else but still be in the wrong.

This is not simple as you think it is. If an average person lives in an area that tends to vote Republican they are probably going to listen to Republican or at least Republican-leaning sources without even thinking about it. The Republican Party though has gotten more and more radical over the years climaxing with Trumps election. The average person who watches Fox News or whatever didnt notice the creep into more and more radical views over the years. Should they have noticed it? Should they have been angry at Newt Gingrichs bullshit or Bushs awful presidency? Maybe. But its pretty obvious how someone who watched Fox News since 2020 would deny Covid and refuse to get a vaccine. Even if they did tell others that Covid was fake or not to get a vaccine (i.e. they are not solely victims), its not like most of them created the misinformation in the first place. They are just repeating what they heard from sources they trust.

If you play into factional politics rather than trying to understand it and doing what you can to end it, you are contributing to it. Whatever though. Believe what you want.

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lilORANG
07/22/21 1:15:27 PM
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Why is the thumbnail a pic of the doctor smiling as big as she possibly can lol. Fucking morbid af.
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KCJ5062
07/22/21 1:16:56 PM
#62:


CableZL posted...
The only thing I was skeptical about wrt to the covid vaccines was anything Donald Trump had to say about them.

Nobody should take medical advice from a guy who said windmill noises cause cancer.

Let's not forget that in 2017, Trump had to be told multiple times from health officials to not look at the eclipse without wearing special protective glasses and did so anyway. Even his own daughter had told him not to beforehand.

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RickyTheBAWSE
07/22/21 2:19:11 PM
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just last week Donald's bank had to tell him that he shouldn't write checks using crayons.
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creativerealms
07/22/21 2:20:45 PM
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You need the vaccine before you get sick. That is how vaccines work.

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Shablagoo
07/22/21 2:24:31 PM
#65:


lilORANG posted...
Why is the thumbnail a pic of the doctor smiling as big as she possibly can lol. Fucking morbid af.

lmfao true

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ZodiacSoldier
07/22/21 2:28:11 PM
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I honestly don't understand why Republicans decided to politicized Covid and Vaccination.

When voting season comes around and you lose a good chunk of your voters due to Covid, that does not help you at all.

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yemmy
07/22/21 2:46:13 PM
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Lot of people itt don't realize, in Birmingham Alabama, these ain't all white trump supporters on their death beds that she is talking about.

Does anyone here know the racial makeup of Birmingham?

Even so, what kinda sick fuck is happy that other people are dying, regardless of why?

I would say you need to check yourself but if you're already that far gone, the only thing that will fix you is years of cognitive behavioural therapy.

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masterpug53
07/22/21 3:08:59 PM
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ZodiacSoldier posted...
I honestly don't understand why Republicans decided to politicized Covid and Vaccination.

When voting season comes around and you lose a good chunk of your voters due to Covid, that does not help you at all.

Because there's a shitload of money to be made in being publicly against whatever Democrats / liberals are doing at any given time.

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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:00:50 PM
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yemmy posted...
Even so, what kinda sick fuck is happy that other people are dying, regardless of why?

Who's happy?

I'm not at all happy people caused mutations because they refused to follow simple guidelines and take a vaccine.

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yemmy
07/22/21 4:17:52 PM
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Who's happy?

I'm not at all happy people caused mutations because they refused to follow simple guidelines and take a vaccine.

It is one thing to not have sympathy. It is another to be so grandiose as to think people care that enough about your lack of sympathy that you gotta let everyone know about it.

I feel sorry for the few people that actually has to be around these people irl because you know everyone who had a choice got the fuck outta dodge a long time ago.

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Struck a nerve?

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CableZL
07/22/21 4:18:22 PM
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At least 56,000 new covid infections in the US just yesterday.

This adamant refusal of the vaccine is causing needless suffering and death.

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limp-bizkit-89
07/22/21 4:20:37 PM
#74:


yemmy posted...


Struck a nerve?

shut the fuck up


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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:23:40 PM
#75:


yemmy posted...
It is one thing to not have sympathy. It is another to be so grandiose as to think people care that enough about your lack of sympathy that you gotta let everyone know about it.

Your opinion on the posting habits of others plays zero factor in their decision to post it.


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Jabodie
07/22/21 4:25:18 PM
#76:


yemmy posted...
It is one thing to not have sympathy. It is another to be so grandiose as to think people care that enough about your lack of sympathy that you gotta let everyone know about it.

I feel sorry for the few people that actually has to be around these people irl because you know everyone who had a choice got the fuck outta dodge a long time ago.

Struck a nerve?
As the former President would say, "It is what it is."

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yemmy
07/22/21 4:25:23 PM
#77:


Umbreon posted...
Your opinion on the posting habits of others plays zero factor in their decision to post it.

Oh really???

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DevilZhouYu
07/22/21 4:26:58 PM
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Seriously, to those of you who are saying there are people itt that're happy people are dying...

Where do you see that?

Because all I see are folks that are sad and angry, for the exact same reason. I'm part of the angry crew, because all of this could LITERALLY have been avoided had they just stfu and bit the bullet.
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CableZL
07/22/21 4:28:33 PM
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The US could have been pretty much done with covid by now, but we have too many people who are refusing to get vaccinated and holding the whole country back.

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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:29:19 PM
#80:


Back on topic.

If you're dying from Covid, and you have had multiple opportunities to get the vaccine? There's really nothing to say to those people at this point. This is what they wanted. They wanted the freedom to not take a vaccine, they wanted the freedom to not follow pandemic guidelines.

This is the price to pay. No refunds.

(This of course excludes those who legitimately can't get or use the vaccine. Then it's just incredibly shitty)

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Jabodie
07/22/21 4:29:36 PM
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DevilZhouYu posted...
Seriously, to those of you who are saying there are people itt that're happy people are dying...

Where do you see that?

Because all I see are folks that are sad and angry, for the exact same reason. I'm part of the angry crew, because all of this could LITERALLY have been avoided had they just stfu and bit the bullet.
I think it's just one guy that felt like virtue signaling.

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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:30:46 PM
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DevilZhouYu posted...
Seriously, to those of you who are saying there are people itt that're happy people are dying...

It's an attempt to derail the topic. Do not rise to the bait, we both know no one is celebrating this(and anyone who does would rightfully be modded).

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catboy
07/22/21 4:37:05 PM
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fucking bleak as hell lmao

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LightHawKnight
07/22/21 4:41:04 PM
#85:


Umbreon posted...
This.

I was skeptical myself... but then I saw that nothing was happening to the elderly in significant numbers(Yes I'm sure one person in the world had an allergic reaction, don't shove an article in my face claiming that's the norm), and said "Yeah okay, seems legit. Let's get this vaccine."

We've had months of the elderly taking vaccines as evidence of them working. If you're still "skeptical" in mid 2021, you're probably anti-vax.

The "pawns" went first, and they're just fine. What are you waiting for?

I still dont get it, do people actually think there had been zero testing before the vaccines were approved for general use? The only thing you could be worried about is the long term effects and even then Covid has long term effects and the short term effect of death.

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yemmy
07/22/21 4:44:33 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
approved for general use?

They aren't approved for general use

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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:45:54 PM
#87:


LightHawKnight posted...
I still dont get it, do people actually think there had been zero testing before the vaccines were approved for general use? The only thing you could be worried about is the long term effects and even then Covid has long term effects and the short term effect of death.

My guess is that the initial testing isn't 'public' so a lot of people don't consider it. There's a difference between say someone going "We tested this medicine for [adequate period of time] and now we're approving it for the public" and actually seeing people get the medicine at the pharmacy and having it work.

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CableZL
07/22/21 4:55:13 PM
#88:


Umbreon posted...
My guess is that the initial testing isn't 'public' so a lot of people don't consider it. There's a difference between say someone going "We tested this medicine for [adequate period of time] and now we're approving it for the public" and actually seeing people get the medicine st the pharmacy and having it work.

The problem here is that people are literally getting vaccines at their local pharmacies and having it work. We have months of hard data that the vaccines work as well as the fact that the vast majority of people getting hospitalized with covid now are people who aren't vaccinated.

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MacDaMurderer
07/22/21 4:57:33 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Stewman_Magoo posted...

It's not just the MAGA Trumpers resisting the vaccine though (most of them probably are). There is a larger story. Even the African American community is skeptical of the vaccine and are getting vaccinated in much lower numbers than you would think.

A lot of right wing fake news is targeting the black community as well. Ive seen my friends/family sharing the news links.

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Umbreon
07/22/21 4:58:30 PM
#90:


Exactly. The "I want to wait and see..." excuse no longer flies. We have evidence it works now and have had evidence for a while now.

So at this point anyone still pretending it's up in the air? It's natural selection at that point.

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Stewman_Magoo
07/22/21 4:59:54 PM
#91:


yemmy posted...
They aren't approved for general use

They are approved for emergency use...

Because I don't know if you've noticed but we're kinda in an emergency situation.

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CableZL
07/22/21 6:15:32 PM
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