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Lebronwon
07/21/21 3:52:16 PM
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https://nypost.com/2021/07/21/its-too-late-doctor-forced-to-turn-down-covid-patients-begging-for-vaccine/

An Alabama doctor has warned that its too late to administer the COVID-19 vaccine when patients are in the hospital fighting for their lives. Dr. Brytney Cobia, who works at Grandview Medical Center in Birmingham, said shes forced to turn down desperate pleas from COVID-19 patients to be given the vaccine before theyre placed on ventilators. Im admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections, wrote Cobia on Facebook on Sunday. One of the last things they do before theyre intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that Im sorry, but its too late. The majority of the infected patients currently in the hospital have not received the shot and the one patient who has been vaccinated just needed a little oxygen and is expected to recover, Cobia told AL.com. But some of the patients who were not vaccinated have not been as fortunate, she said. When I call time of death, I hug their family members and I tell them the best way to honor their loved one is to go get vaccinated and encourage everyone they know to do the same, she wrote on Facebook. They cry. And they tell me they didnt know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldnt get as sick. They thought it was just the flu. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they cant.

I try to be very non-judgmental when Im getting a new COVID patient thats unvaccinated, but I really just started asking them, Why havent you gotten the vaccine? And Ill just ask it point blank, in the least judgmental way possible, she said. And most of them, theyre very honest, they give me answers. I talked to this person, I saw this thing on Facebook, I got this email, I saw this on the news, you know, these are all the reasons that I didnt get vaccinated. And the one question that I always ask them is, did you make an appointment with your primary care doctor and ask them for their opinion on whether or not you should receive the vaccine? And so far, nobody has answered yes to that question, she continued. Across the country, at least 99% of COVID-19 deaths and 97% of hospitalizations are among people who have not been vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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LightHawKnight
07/21/21 3:54:03 PM
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Do they really think the vaccine is a cure?

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Dark_SilverX
07/21/21 3:55:21 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do they really think the vaccine is a cure?
the vaccine destroys it

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Umbreon
07/21/21 3:55:39 PM
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Once you're in the "finding out" phase, you can't go back and undo the "fuck around" portion.

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Questionmarktarius
07/21/21 3:56:48 PM
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A vaccine is useless for an active infection anyway.
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CommonStar
07/21/21 3:59:43 PM
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I do feel bad for some of these people who fall victim to the misinformation and the right wing propaganda machine. And unfortunately, a lot of times they won't see it until it happens to them.
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Jabodie
07/21/21 4:00:24 PM
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Whoops. Unlucky they didn't know what vaccines are... oh wait it's actually deliberate misinformation and propaganda... double whoops!

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Philoktetes
07/21/21 4:00:41 PM
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this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated
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hsvhighlife
07/21/21 4:01:15 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated


this

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Arcanine2009
07/21/21 4:01:45 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated
probably. But vaccines are a preventative measure you take. You can take it while while you are sick.

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MelbuFrahma4
07/21/21 4:02:06 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated

This. Arent they supposed to not share what their patients are saying to the public. Like that stuff supposed to stay between the doctor and patient. Yet this doctor choose to out those conversations to the public.

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Hexenherz
07/21/21 4:02:47 PM
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Maybe it's time we record people on incubation tubes crying and screaming for the vaccine in their dying moments and just broadcast that on TV and at clinics and shit.

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Philoktetes
07/21/21 4:03:29 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...


This. Arent they supposed to not share what their patients are saying to the public. Like that stuff supposed to stay between the doctor and patient. Yet this doctor choose to out those conversations to the public.


it's ok because they didn't give out any personal identifying information about a patient

youre allowed to say "i have a patient who did....." as long as you dont make it possible for someone to identify that specific patient
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Jabodie
07/21/21 4:05:11 PM
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Luckily I can rely on PATRIOTS FOR TRUMP Facebook group, /pol/, and my favorite YouTube channels for REAL vaccine info.

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Webmaster4531
07/21/21 4:06:23 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
did you make an appointment with your primary care doctor
Conservatives don't have those. They actively try to make sure no one does.
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GallisOTK
07/21/21 4:08:37 PM
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CommonStar posted...
I do feel bad for some of these people who fall victim to the misinformation and the right wing propaganda machine.

I sure don't. They chose to trust the gospel of a party of heartless, greedy, bigoted fuckwads over actual documented science, and they reap what they sow.
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Smackems
07/21/21 4:09:11 PM
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That happened

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Kloe_Rinz
07/21/21 4:09:45 PM
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Only idiots choose not to get vaccinated when given the opportunity.
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Lorenzo_2003
07/21/21 4:09:48 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do they really think the vaccine is a cure?

They're desperate. Its late, but they still want to live.

Its understandable. There are stories of starving sailors eating rats, then shoes or belts, and occasionally their fellow crew mates when theyve gotten desperate enough to do so. I wont judge that because Ive never been in that situation, although we can agree that not getting vaccinated is very risky and doesnt make much sense when we have all this information and these resources available now.

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Cocytus
07/21/21 4:11:58 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
One of the last things they do before theyre intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that Im sorry, but its too late.
He shouldn't put it like that. I'd say the vaccine won't be helpful right now.
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Bass_X0
07/21/21 4:11:59 PM
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I've seen people say they can't get covid because they are christian and their faith in God to protect them is the only vaccine they believe in.

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Bass_X0
07/21/21 4:13:18 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPHJPk_f4g

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spikethedevil
07/21/21 4:14:10 PM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
the vaccine destroys it

Thats not how vaccines work.

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CoorsLight
07/21/21 4:14:59 PM
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CommonStar posted...
I do feel bad for some of these people who fall victim to the misinformation and the right wing propaganda machine. And unfortunately, a lot of times they won't see it until it happens to them.

It's so powerful that some people probably still wouldn't get the vaccine after that kind of experience. Or if they make it out and do decide to get it, they'll still fall for the propaganda on a different subject
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mobilebloechel
07/21/21 4:16:38 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Conservatives don't have those. They actively try to make sure no one does.

...most the doctors I know are conservative...

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Zero_Destroyer
07/21/21 4:16:51 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRB-iHGHSqk

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kirbymuncher
07/21/21 4:17:30 PM
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Lebronwon posted...
young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,

:thinking:

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Sackgurl
07/21/21 4:17:55 PM
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womp womp

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Prismsblade
07/21/21 4:18:00 PM
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This didn't scare people during the peak of the pandemic and it certainly won't scare anyone now.

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ChocoboMog123
07/21/21 4:19:32 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
:thinking:
Young, fit people, with no other underlying medical conditions besides the COVID.

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Webmaster4531
07/21/21 4:19:41 PM
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mobilebloechel posted...
...most the doctors I know are conservative...
Ask them what anecdotal evidence means.
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DieselWeasel
07/21/21 4:19:55 PM
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This is insanely depressing.

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Jabodie
07/21/21 4:22:13 PM
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ChocoboMog123 posted...
Young, fit people, with no other underlying medical conditions besides the COVID.
He's was getting to that bro. He needed more thinking time.

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Trumble
07/21/21 4:23:02 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do they really think the vaccine is a cure?

To someone who does not understand the science behind how vaccines work (whether due to conspiracy reasons or simply due to never bothering to learn), and simply knows of them as a thing that helps protect you from a disease, it is not at all unexpected that they wouldn't realise the difference between taking the vaccine before exposure vs taking it to help fight off an infection.

And let me be really fucking clear (because this is CE and it's guaranteed someone's going to claim otherwise if I don't point this out here). I am not saying they're right, or that we should pretend they are. I am saying it's very understandable why someone without the relevant pre-existing knowledge, might think that it would be worthwhile.

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kirbymuncher
07/21/21 4:23:26 PM
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it's just some very bizarre wording imo

I don't think I would ever use the term "healthy" to describe someone who was currently ill with something that has a decent chance of flat out killing them

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Kloe_Rinz
07/21/21 4:24:36 PM
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Trumble posted...
it is not at all unexpected that they wouldn't realise the difference between taking the vaccine before exposure vs taking it to help fight off an infection.
Its pretty unexpected. Everyone knows vaccines are a preventative measure. Its like trying to put on a seat belt after a car crash
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Philoktetes
07/21/21 4:25:30 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
it's just some very bizarre wording imo

I don't think I would ever use the term "healthy" to describe someone who was currently ill with something that has a decent chance of flat out killing them


they obviously mean with no previous underlying conditions that would have made them expected to be high risk from covid

don't be obtuse
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Jabodie
07/21/21 4:25:56 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its pretty unexpected. Everyone knows vaccines are a preventative measure. Its like trying to put on a seat belt after a car crash
Just remember that education in some parts of the country is very bad.

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Philoktetes
07/21/21 4:26:24 PM
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Jabodie posted...

Just remember that education in some parts of the country is very bad.


^this is elitism
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CableZL
07/21/21 4:27:57 PM
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Yeah, once you get covid, the vaccine isn't going to help you get over it. It will help ward off variants, though... That doesn't matter if you're just trying to survive covid, though. By the time the vaccine starts giving protection, you probably already know if you're going to survive.

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Flamer_Blue
07/21/21 4:28:00 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Do they really think the vaccine is a cure?
Oh look.
Another one.
However, I am appalled at that skin color comment. ._.

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LightHawKnight
07/21/21 4:28:58 PM
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Trumble posted...
To someone who does not understand the science behind how vaccines work (whether due to conspiracy reasons or simply due to never bothering to learn), and simply knows of them as a thing that helps protect you from a disease, it is not at all unexpected that they wouldn't realise the difference between taking the vaccine before exposure vs taking it to help fight off an infection.

And let me be really fucking clear (because this is CE and it's guaranteed someone's going to claim otherwise if I don't point this out here). I am not saying they're right, or that we should pretend they are. I am saying it's very understandable why someone without the relevant pre-existing knowledge, might think that it would be worthwhile.

I mean it isn't as if vaccines are new. People should know what they do.

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Trumble
07/21/21 4:29:23 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its pretty unexpected. Everyone knows vaccines are a preventative measure. Its like trying to put on a seat belt after a car crash

Yes, that's easy enough for you or me to say, because we've bothered to learn about how vaccines work. Not everyone has - and I would say, as long as they're willing to listen to people who know what they're talking about, not everyone needs to.

Not to mention on top of that, it's also very understandable that someone in a desperate situation like that might ask about every possible idea they can think of, rather than stopping to consider the logic of each one first, even if they did have the prerequisite knowledge (but hadn't yet "connected the dots" so to speak).

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untrustful
07/21/21 4:30:22 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
this is just another tactic by medical professionals to scare people into getting vaccinated
"This is a tactic by HIGHLY EDUCATED medical professionals. In other words, communists and socialists who are trying to mark our dna to turn down the testosterone of future generations to make 'the revolution' possible. Good thing people like us don't follow their bs, since that means when the apocalypse comes, we'll be ready when Xandor and his alien horde picks us up to fight in his galactic war of righteousness against the forces of evil."

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Jabodie
07/21/21 4:30:32 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
^this is elitism
Even if that's the case, is it false? Do you believe somebody who went through high school and did not understand what vaccines were went to good schools?

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Darmik
07/21/21 4:32:24 PM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Its pretty unexpected. Everyone knows vaccines are a preventative measure. Its like trying to put on a seat belt after a car crash

These are people who don't understand what vaccines are at all and haven't taken them. They're desperate after they realised they're wrong.

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IfGodCouldDie
07/21/21 4:34:47 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Once you're in the "finding out" phase, you can't go back and undo the "fuck around" portion.
Lol

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Bass_X0
07/21/21 4:35:47 PM
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Here, take this bullet proof vest so you wont get shot

No, Ill be fine. Ive read that the enemy doesnt even have guns. Oww! Ive been shot! Can I have that bullet proof vest now?

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IfGodCouldDie
07/21/21 4:36:37 PM
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MelbuFrahma4 posted...
This. Arent they supposed to not share what their patients are saying to the public. Like that stuff supposed to stay between the doctor and patient. Yet this doctor choose to out those conversations to the public.
Without giving names they aren't breaking any doctor patient confidentiality.

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monkmith
07/21/21 4:38:04 PM
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a lot of young people dont have a primary care doctor since a lot of young people dont have insurance.

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