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Judgmenl 07/21/21 2:32:15 PM #1: |
I am downloading it right now.
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DirtBasedSoap 07/21/21 2:38:27 PM #2: |
looks very predatory as far as MTX goes so imma pass on this
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helIy 07/21/21 3:04:04 PM #3: |
it is extremely predatory in the mtx
it's legitimately pay to win. you can straight up buy items that give boosts so you can win. --- but i'm not the villain, despite what you're always preaching call me a traitor, i'm just collecting your victims ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/21/21 4:04:41 PM #4: |
Yikes.
I'm going to stay away. This is not how you launch a game in 2021. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 07/21/21 4:07:25 PM #5: |
helIy posted...
it's legitimately pay to win. you can straight up buy items that give boosts so you can win. that sounds very convenient --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ArvTheGreat 07/21/21 4:19:39 PM #6: |
they should have a trap if people wanna pay to win the automatically get banned from the game
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helIy 07/21/21 4:44:55 PM #7: |
why would they ban people who want to give them money
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Krazy_Kirby 07/23/21 1:29:11 AM #8: |
you can be the very best, like no one ever was....
as long as you have money. --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 07/23/21 1:46:41 AM #9: |
helIy posted...
it is extremely predatory in the mtx No you can't. The currency used to buy Held Items can only be gotten by completing quests, and you get all the Battle Items from leveling up. The only "advantage" you can pay for with real money is an energy boost that will fill your loot box meter faster. You can get the currency needed to upgrade Held Items from the loot boxes, but it still requires you to play the game to earn them. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeetCheet 07/23/21 2:29:53 AM #10: |
Pokemon Unite? More like Pokemon U-shite, am I right?
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funkyfritter 07/23/21 2:51:36 AM #11: |
DocDelicious posted...
No you can't. The currency used to buy Held Items can only be gotten by completing quests, and you get all the Battle Items from leveling up.https://gamewith.net/pokemon-unite/article/show/28964 This makes it sound like upgrading your held items is a bigger deal that unlocking them. It also depicts a pretty steep grind to max out an item, which would make things like boosters that dramatically speed up the process a significant advantage. It also sounds like buying the battlepass gives you more currency that directly impacts gameplay. Really though, these days all you really need to check to figure out if a game has a predatory monetization model or not is how many different currencies they use. This game has 5 different forms of currency, resulting in a convoluted mess of unlock methods that does nothing except obfuscate the process enough to get players to spend more. --- And with that...pow! I'm gone! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 5:19:33 AM #12: |
I don't see how this game is P2W (yet).
Played for a few hours last night and enjoyed it greatly. Dropped $10 and got the Battle Pass and Gengar. The Speedsters are so satisfying to play and I think they're supposed to replace Gankers in othere MOBAs. Zeraora is also very satisfying to play as well. I have like an 80% WR btw. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd 07/23/21 6:44:22 AM #13: |
It's a fun little MOBA. Matches are only 10 minutes and you're playing literal children so you can feel like you're good at games. I like it
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 8:37:55 AM #14: |
Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...
you're playing literal children so you can feel like you're good at gamesThis is the best part ^^ --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 07/23/21 9:50:52 AM #15: |
To preface, I am a free to play mobile game developer. Monetisation and strategy around this is my bread and butter. My job is to find the right balance between monetising your product and players enjoying it. https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/oopfvl/please_be_very_mindful_of_the_predatory/ --- but i'm not the villain, despite what you're always preaching call me a traitor, i'm just collecting your victims ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSlinja 07/23/21 10:02:01 AM #16: |
doesnt suprise me pokemon masters was also grindy shit at launch, dont know if they ever adjusted it but I didnt stick around to find out
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 10:11:04 AM #17: |
helIy posted...
- Actual gameplay boosting items (please don't argue on this point, those items are directly impacting gameplay and increasing your combat effectiveness substantially)They're not, but ok? --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 07/23/21 10:19:21 AM #18: |
Judgmenl posted...
They're not, but ok? Regarding pay to win you can buy tickets with gems which are then spent on the stat boost items. This is called a 3 step currency and is designed to stop people being able to work out the cost of items easily. Its another tactic and a very common one. Its why gems come in bundles that are never equal to the gem cost of anything in-game. Its to deter people from working out value. Essentially it allows the seller to generate their own economy and manipulate it freely. --- but i'm not the villain, despite what you're always preaching call me a traitor, i'm just collecting your victims ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 10:30:29 AM #19: |
Like I said, how much have you played?
And why the hell would anyone convert gems to tickets. That's stupid. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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helIy 07/23/21 10:33:21 AM #20: |
of course it's stupid
but people are going to do it to win --- but i'm not the villain, despite what you're always preaching call me a traitor, i'm just collecting your victims ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 10:45:48 AM #21: |
It doesn't even give you a substantial amount of power and the held items people are talking about aren't even the powerful ones.
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 11:18:48 AM #22: |
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/K0ky6MX.png">
I am only Beginner 3, but I am not seeing how this is pay to win yet. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sycophant 07/23/21 12:37:44 PM #23: |
Is progress shared between phone and switch? That irked me about pokemon quest that you had separate data
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TheSlinja 07/23/21 2:18:05 PM #24: |
Judgmenl posted...
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/K0ky6MX.png">pay to win doesnt usually creep in at the very beginning, is this your first mobile game? "im arena 4 at clash royal I dont see how this is pay to win yet" --- DIRT ON ME I'M FINNA BLOSSOM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Judgmenl 07/23/21 2:25:02 PM #25: |
I don't get it. If you enjoy something for any number of hours, and then it stops being enjoying. Stop.
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TheSlinja 07/23/21 2:25:58 PM #26: |
???? okay? I dont think anyone said otherwise but go off I guess
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Sycophant 07/24/21 12:44:21 PM #27: |
Judgmenl posted...
I don't get it. If you enjoy something for any number of hours, and then it stops being enjoying. Stop.Well I just downloaded, hopefully its fun. If not its free atleast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 07/25/21 2:49:49 AM #28: |
Its pretty fun. I only played 2 battles so far. Won both. Me and someone playing the yellow launch bonus guy crushed it. I played Eldegoss. I like healers
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Sycophant 07/25/21 6:47:10 AM #29: |
LinkPizza posted...
Its pretty fun. I only played 2 battles so far. Won both. Me and someone playing the yellow launch bonus guy crushed it. I played Eldegoss. I like healersYeah I played Slowpoke/Slowbro and won my first match. I wish it was on pc though. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanded 07/25/21 6:51:47 AM #30: |
i'm semi boycotting pokemon for their microtransactional behavior, they were always sketchy with how they spread pokemon across several games but back then they at least had the excuse of "it's so kids make friends"....now it's just "give us money lmao"
i'll buy pokemon games after several years when they're cheap and preferably second hand (wondered why the push for digital only?), plenty of other games to keep me busy, there is a limit to how much you can milk my nostalgia --- I stand with Israel. #FightAntisemitism ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 07/25/21 1:22:37 PM #31: |
Sycophant posted...
Yeah I played Slowpoke/Slowbro and won my first match. I wish it was on pc though. Im fine with Switch. My computers been slow, and I still have to get the USB ports fixed. So, I couldnt really play it on PC Wanded posted... i'm semi boycotting pokemon for their microtransactional behavior, they were always sketchy with how they spread pokemon across several games but back then they at least had the excuse of "it's so kids make friends"....now it's just "give us money lmao" This one is free (with the exception of paying for online), so it doesnt get any cheaper. Plus, they have some launch rewards, so youre getting less by waiting And the push for digital is because they dont want people sharing or selling their games. Buying it digitally means you cant sell it to a store. Meaning other people cant buy it use. Meaning they have to buy the game at full price (or sale price). But they cant get a cheap copy for a much lower price. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd 07/25/21 9:01:59 PM #32: |
My internet crashed right at the start of a game and I lost 8 fair play points. Literally I had to restart my modem from Comcast's site. Cool.
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Sycophant 07/25/21 9:04:13 PM #33: |
Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...
My internet crashed right at the start of a game and I lost 8 fair play points. Literally I had to restart my modem from Comcast's site. Cool.You can get the points back. Do not worry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/25/21 10:10:21 PM #34: |
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Sycophant 07/25/21 10:15:35 PM #35: |
^ roflmao he reminds me of Kramer on that karate episode of Seinfeld
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supergamer19 07/25/21 10:20:54 PM #36: |
I like the idea of held items like in the games, but I do not like that these permanent stat boosts can be leveled up to level 30 for about forty bucks each item.
The game is fun, but whenever I get blown out of the water in a match, it feels disingenuous. --- I love the Power Glove. It's so bad --- PSN & Wii U: BrunyBrunz Nintendo Switch: SW-7367-4887-2583 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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supergamer19 07/25/21 10:26:06 PM #37: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAv6s3W--dc Yea this, 4 vs 1 and coming out on top multiple times lol Sludge bomb and hex needs to be nerfed anyway. --- I love the Power Glove. It's so bad --- PSN & Wii U: BrunyBrunz Nintendo Switch: SW-7367-4887-2583 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 07/25/21 11:16:23 PM #38: |
supergamer19 posted...
Yea this, 4 vs 1 and coming out on top multiple times lol He also uses jigglypuff later on and just bitch slaps everything to death. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/25/21 11:38:10 PM #39: |
Judgmenl posted...
<img src="https://i.imgur.com/K0ky6MX.png">Judgmenl posted... Dropped $10 and got the Battle Pass and Gengar. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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supergamer19 07/26/21 12:10:58 AM #40: |
Lol I was thinking of pointing out the same thing. Posting a pic of his kills and everything loooooool
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ComradeSeraphim 07/26/21 6:04:06 AM #41: |
Never heard of it.
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LinkPizza 07/26/21 6:05:10 AM #42: |
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Never heard of it. New Switch game. Thats all --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trodi_911 07/26/21 6:44:07 AM #43: |
supergamer19 posted...
Lol I was thinking of pointing out the same thing. Posting a pic of his kills and everything looooooolTo be fair, the game is extremely snowball-y with very little way of coming back if the winning team really pushes the advantage and is achievable without spending a dime. --- "Fungah!" Life is uncertain. Eat dessert first. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lynyrd_Skynyrd 07/26/21 6:51:11 AM #44: |
I scored 50 points with literally 1 second left and the game didn't count it. We won by like 50 but I'd have been pissed if we lost because the game doesn't actually count every goal scored before the buzzer.
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BlackScythe0 07/26/21 1:50:49 PM #45: |
trodi_911 posted...
To be fair, the game is extremely snowball-y with very little way of coming back if the winning team really pushes the advantage and is achievable without spending a dime. And if you spend the dimes you get to snowball easier. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DDirtyDastard 07/26/21 1:55:57 PM #46: |
I grew bored of it pretty quick.
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adjl 07/26/21 2:08:48 PM #47: |
supergamer19 posted...
Lol I was thinking of pointing out the same thing. Posting a pic of his kills and everything loooooool I mean, that's not to say that spending $10 is the only reason he's winning. Just that paying, then winning, then saying "I don't see how this is pay to win" isn't exactly the most reliable assessment of the free player experience, especially after so little time spent with the game. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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supergamer19 07/26/21 3:49:12 PM #48: |
adjl posted...
$10 is the only reason he's winning. It kind of is, since that combo with Gengar is so busted, but you and Trodi make good points. I came across as douchey with my comment. Sorry TC. --- I love the Power Glove. It's so bad --- PSN & Wii U: BrunyBrunz Nintendo Switch: SW-7367-4887-2583 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 07/26/21 4:10:23 PM #49: |
supergamer19 posted...
It kind of is, since that combo with Gengar is so busted, but you and Trodi make good points. I came across as douchey with my comment. Sorry TC. Nah, didn't seem douchey, at least no more so than me taking both quotes out of context to make the same point. I'm mostly just walking it back because there isn't actually enough information there to support the conclusion that the game is P2W. Just that his experience hasn't left him in a good place to conclude one way or the other. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinkPizza 07/26/21 9:00:17 PM #50: |
You can get Gengar without money, though
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