Poll of the Day > Will the Steam Deck kill the switch?

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LinkPizza
07/21/21 12:58:39 PM
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Will the Steam Deck kill the switch?




What do you think and why?
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CaptainStrong
07/21/21 1:07:29 PM
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No. It wouldn't kill the Switch even if it could perfectly emulate Switch games.
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Metalsonic66
07/21/21 1:09:31 PM
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lol why would you even think this

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LinkPizza
07/21/21 1:10:45 PM
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CaptainStrong posted...
No. It wouldn't kill the Switch even if it could perfectly emulate Switch games.

I agree

Metalsonic66 posted...
lol why would you even think this

I dont think it will. One of my co-workers does, though. But just one
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PunishedOni
07/21/21 1:11:50 PM
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I don't think it will kill the switch, but if I got one I'd probably stop using my switch for anything besides nintendo games. Right now I buy a lot of indie games on switch because the portability is nice, but then if I get really into them and wanna mod them (like celeste for example) i have to buy them again

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Time
07/21/21 1:12:29 PM
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Nintendo exclusives will keep the switch alive.

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LinkPizza
07/21/21 1:14:42 PM
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PunishedOni posted...
I don't think it will kill the switch, but if I got one I'd probably stop using my switch for anything besides nintendo games. Right now I buy a lot of indie games on switch because the portability is nice, but then if I get really into them and wanna mod them (like celeste for example) i have to buy them again

The mods are probably the thing that would help the Steam Deck the most

Time posted...
Nintendo exclusives will keep the switch alive.

Thats what I said. They have a ton of exclusives due to all their IPs
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PK_Spam
07/21/21 1:25:44 PM
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No, but itll definitely be a hit to Nintendos indie sales.

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Metalsonic66
07/21/21 1:30:05 PM
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I hope it catches on, but more as a stepping stone to a new Golden Age of Pre-Builts

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PunishedOni
07/21/21 1:38:10 PM
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it also makes NSO look even more embarassing since i can just install an e******* on my steam deck and play anything

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Kanatteru
07/21/21 1:39:32 PM
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doesn't really fill the same gap as the switch does imo. there's definitely a market for people who want PC games portable, it just hasn't really been tapped into yet

the only reason it would appeal to me as someone who already owns a gaming PC and a switch is as a portable visual novel machine

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Mead
07/21/21 1:39:49 PM
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No I think it will be a pretty niche item

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Kanatteru
07/21/21 1:42:40 PM
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also im hesitant to say any steam hardware will kill anything on the market currently since they've had a couple of flops already

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LinkPizza
07/21/21 1:45:18 PM
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Mead posted...
No I think it will be a pretty niche item

I feel it can possibly be good. Just not sure its kill the switch good, yknow

Kanatteru posted...
also im hesitant to say any steam hardware will kill anything on the market currently since they've had a couple of flops already

Yeah. The other flops do make me wonder how this is going to do
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Revelation34
07/21/21 1:53:32 PM
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64 GB only means it won't succeed.
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LinkPizza
07/21/21 1:55:30 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
64 GB only means it won't succeed.

I heard the more expensive one has more memory. And that you can also use external memory
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kangolcone
07/21/21 1:59:49 PM
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Steam Link and Steam Machine. Im sure Nintendo is shaking in their Wiimote sleeves.

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PK_Spam
07/21/21 2:18:37 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
64 GB only means it won't succeed.
Whos going to buy this for AAA games? This is for indies and other small games you already have on steam

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Metalsonic66
07/21/21 2:20:13 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
64 GB only means it won't succeed.
Games bigger than that would likely be too taxing to run on the portable hardware anyway

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adjl
07/21/21 5:46:50 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
No, but itll definitely be a hit to Nintendos indie sales.

Potentially, but the higher price point is going to be a bit of a hard sell if somebody's just looking for a portable indie machine. For anyone with a decent existing indie library on Steam that only cares about that, it'll be the better option, but for anyone that cares at all about Nintendo's exclusive lineup, it's a much harder sell. That's especially true given that so many people (especially ones that care about portable indies) already have a Switch, in which case buying a Deck becomes even less reasonable.

Of Valve's attempted forays into pseduo-console gaming, I think this is one of their better ideas. The Link was held back by most home networks struggling to keep up with its bandwidth needs, resulting in input and display lag that made higher-end games pretty miserable to play. Steam Machines were held back by a general disdain for prebuilts among existing PC gamers and a price point higher than console gamers were comfortable with if they wanted to have something that could reliably run everything. This is priced reasonably and offers both portability and easy TV connectivity, which I can see being appealing, but the fact that it won't be able to handle every Steam game (and will likely struggle with higher-end games moving forward, making it mostly a BC/Indie machine) is going to hurt it a lot.

Revelation34 posted...
64 GB only means it won't succeed.

That's twice what the Switch has, natively, and it's doing just fine. Expanding memory as needed isn't particularly difficult.

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streamofthesky
07/21/21 6:05:00 PM
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Nah, at worst it'll kill all hype for the OLED Switch, but that thing seemed to have a pretty muted/negative reaction even before Steam stole Nintendo's thunder.

adjl posted...
That's twice what the Switch has, natively, and it's doing just fine. Expanding memory as needed isn't particularly difficult.
1) Switch has physical games, so some or all of your library doesn't even need storage beyond save files and patches/updates.
2) Switch games are a lot smaller than PC games. Outside of Nintendo, games the last two gens have grown massive in size, it's just insane. Apparently it's due to texture maps for super-realistic looking stuff? But I also think developers just got lazy and stopped trying to compress the file size since storage on PC and consoles grew.
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Rotpar
07/21/21 6:08:13 PM
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Nintendo always has its original titles to fall back on.

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InfernalFive
07/21/21 6:10:27 PM
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Sonicplys
07/21/21 6:14:38 PM
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Steam Deck is competing with PS5, XSX and PCs. Not Nintendo.

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HornedLion
07/21/21 9:41:59 PM
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Nintendo fanboys, dawgs. This place is infested with them.

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AwesomeTurtwig
07/21/21 9:46:42 PM
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No, people get switch because of nostalgia. Steam deck won't take that out of the people who buy switch.

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Kimbos_Egg
07/21/21 9:49:05 PM
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can you repeat the question?

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Mead
07/21/21 10:03:53 PM
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AwesomeTurtwig posted...
people get switch because of nostalgia.



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mooreandrew58
07/21/21 10:04:50 PM
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HornedLion posted...
Nintendo fanboys, dawgs. This place is infested with them.

There is also the simple fact many have tried and many have failed to dethrone Nintendo as king of handhelds. A lot of them boasting superior tech too. Psp imo was superior to the 3ds in every way possible except game library (games made just for that system) . Most of my psp library was ports.

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Revelation34
07/22/21 12:50:57 AM
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PK_Spam posted...

Whos going to buy this for AAA games? This is for indies and other small games you already have on steam


I never said anything about AAA games. I'd at least like to play CRPGs on it if I owned it.
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ForteEXE3850
07/22/21 12:59:45 AM
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Not unless PC gaming surpasses console gaming as the preferred gaming platform for the general public.
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Mead
07/22/21 1:15:22 AM
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ForteEXE3850 posted...
Not unless PC gaming surpasses console gaming as the preferred gaming platform for the general public.

they both lose in a heartbeat to peoples phones

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Revelation34
07/22/21 1:20:15 AM
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Mead posted...


they both lose in a heartbeat to peoples phones


We probably have to wait about 10 years before we can play AAA games on a phone.
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Mead
07/22/21 1:24:41 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
We probably have to wait about 10 years before we can play AAA games on a phone.

once wide band 5g is actually available for most people, theres likely gonna be a huge shift to even most core gamers gaming a lot more on their phones

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Revelation34
07/22/21 1:32:40 AM
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Mead posted...


once wide band 5g is actually available for most people, theres likely gonna be a huge shift to even most core gamers gaming a lot more on their phones


I meant the specs themselves. AAA games require a lot more RAM than is available on phones.
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ForteEXE3850
07/22/21 2:05:31 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
We probably have to wait about 10 years before we can play AAA games on a phone.

Revelation34 posted...
I meant the specs themselves. AAA games require a lot more RAM than is available on phones.

Unless computer technology plateaus, what is considered "AAA" will keep getting more advanced as the less compact consoles and PCs also improve with time along with phones (phones however, get upgrades more often, but with smaller improvements).

It's not easy to port the most modern AAA home console game to a weaker device unless it was planned to be done from the beginning, which usually means limiting the game to ensure it would work on weaker devices. And the range of phones is huge, not everyone is carrying around the newest, most expensive model.

Although I don't think hardware limitations is the main reason most AAA publishers don't port most of their games to smartphones anyway, I think they just don't have faith most people would be willing to pay AAA prices up front to play AAA games on their smartphones. The proven money making method for smartphone games is microtransactions and loot boxes/gatcha, and they work extraordinarily well.
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LinkPizza
07/22/21 2:18:38 AM
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Yeah. I dont think many people will actually be playing AAA games on phones. Some will, but many probably wont
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Metalsonic66
07/22/21 2:22:45 AM
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Power isn't what's holding back gaming on phones.

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Unbridled9
07/22/21 3:53:01 AM
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Let's be honest. Even if this thing was amazing the Switch is likely gonna get phased out in 2-3 years anyways with a new console. I don't think you can really 'kill' it when that's the case.

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adjl
07/22/21 9:42:23 PM
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ForteEXE3850 posted...
I think they just don't have faith most people would be willing to pay AAA prices up front to play AAA games on their smartphones. The proven money making method for smartphone games is microtransactions and loot boxes/gatcha, and they work extraordinarily well.

While that is an issue (I think it was the devs behind The Banner Saga that talked about having huge problems trying to sell their game on mobile for even $5, despite selling it just fine on other platforms for much more than that), I'm not actually sure how relevant that is to the modern AAA market. Most AAA games are no less monetized than the average mobile game, such that the sale price is actually a fairly small minority of their total revenue. Really, the only reason they continue to have a sale price at all is because people are still willing to pay that and still pay for post-purchase monetization afterwards. The second that changes, AAA games will be going F2P.

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