Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 507: The Peacemaker's Here

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TheRock1525
09/07/21 5:35:43 PM
#302:


Doesn't his son write for 205 Live?

Does that really count as "working there"?
Jakyl25 posted...
this is the price for Triple H losing the war by trying to be a super indie

Pretty much. Hell, the biggest initial change being the logo and to make the arena stop looking like an ROH show is the biggest sign. HHH got out-indied by an actual Indie superfed and Vince said "enough with this Indie crap, where's my next John Cena, Paul?"

So it will now be big meaty men slapping meat.

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Jakyl25
09/07/21 6:09:49 PM
#303:


Wasnt just Vince either. Bruce Pritchard and Johnny Ace supposedly want to make sure they keep power over Triple H because theyre pretty sure theyre gone if he ever takes over, so they encourage Vince down this path

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Jakyl25
09/07/21 6:38:36 PM
#304:


And Triple H really has no excuse

Even with crowds back and moved AWAY from AEW, their ratings are still down from where they were a year ago in the middle of the war.

Dynamite is up from then. Raw is up. SmackDown is up. Whats his excuse?

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TheRock1525
09/07/21 7:54:22 PM
#305:


Jakyl25 posted...
And Triple H really has no excuse

Even with crowds back and moved AWAY from AEW, their ratings are still down from where they were a year ago in the middle of the war.

Dynamite is up from then. Raw is up. SmackDown is up. Whats his excuse?

One thing Vince is right on is the look of NXT is absolute shit right now. The previews for the new "arena" for NXT feel like a good step in the right direction.

But the biggest decision was putting the main titles on Karrion Kross and Raquel Gonzalez, especially when they took them off more popular acts like Finn Balor and Io Shirai.

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TheRock1525
09/07/21 7:58:02 PM
#306:


Oh and it was believed Kevin Owens' contract wasn't up until 2023 is now actually up in January 2022.

And he just tweeted and deleted a pic with him, Cole, and the Bucks.

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FFDragon
09/07/21 8:00:03 PM
#307:


He also tweeted the coordinates to Mount Rushmore.

(Mount Rushmore being a stable of Steen, Cole, and the Bucks)

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ExThaNemesis
09/07/21 10:13:26 PM
#308:


Kevin Owens is the ONE guy who can go right into AEW and I'm okay with him going straight for the world title. I don't even want Punk doing that.

That WWE never let Owens get a long-term main event push is so criminal. He's probably the best guy on the roster overall rn.

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ExThaNemesis
09/07/21 10:13:50 PM
#309:


god the pop when Blue Smock Nancy starts playing HOLY SHIT

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Maniac64
09/07/21 10:46:02 PM
#310:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Kevin Owens is the ONE guy who can go right into AEW and I'm okay with him going straight for the world title. I don't even want Punk doing that.

That WWE never let Owens get a long-term main event push is so criminal. He's probably the best guy on the roster overall rn.
Gove me an immediate Steen/Kingston feud please. They had great matches and promos in their champ vs champ ROH/CHIKARA feud.

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TheRock1525
09/08/21 12:14:59 AM
#311:


Sami Zayn's expires the end of 2021.

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Jakyl25
09/08/21 10:50:45 AM
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RaidenGarai
09/08/21 5:03:17 PM
#313:


https://www.wwe.com/article/paul-triple-h-levesque-health-update

STAMFORD, Conn., September 8, 2021 WWE issued the following statement today regarding Paul Triple H Levesque, WWE Executive Vice President, Global Talent Strategy & Development:
Paul Levesque, a.k.a. Triple H, underwent a successful procedure last week at Yale New Haven Hospital following a cardiac event. The episode was caused by a genetic heart issue and Paul is expected to make a full recovery.

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FFDragon
09/08/21 5:04:11 PM
#314:


Broken heart from them killing his NXT baby


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Fastbreak
09/08/21 5:38:30 PM
#315:


Procedure and event wording makes me think stint

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CaptainOfCrush
09/08/21 6:35:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKRe9PAGfCw

I can't believe I haven't seen that promo until today. Even when ignoring the uncanny level of prescience... holy fuck Austin was always incredible. I kinda feel like going back and watching some of his early 90s stuff that I've never had the opportunity to see.

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TheRock1525
09/09/21 3:15:02 PM
#317:


Meltzer is saying that the pitch to Adam Cole on the main roster was to be the manager of a heel Keith Lee.

On one hand, Vince is so out of touch that I absolutely believe it.

On the other hand, Cole described WWE's offer as very generous, so I have a hard time believing Vince would want to pay a lot of money for a manager.

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Lopen
09/09/21 3:50:47 PM
#318:


TheRock1525 posted...
so I have a hard time believing Vince would want to pay a lot of money for a manager

At least he'd be being used. I've seen Vince pay a lot of money to just bench guys

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FFDragon
09/09/21 3:52:30 PM
#319:


Wouldn't be the first or last time Vince turns a smaller wrestler into a manager

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paulg235
09/09/21 3:53:08 PM
#320:


Lopen posted...
At least he'd be being used. I've seen Vince pay a lot of money to just bench guys
I've also seen Vince pay a lot of money to guys just to fire them for costcutting reasons less than a year later in some cases.

Seriously, which would you rather pick? a job where your loved ones are with that'll likely reward you for your talents, or a job where you'll likely be mistreated or looked over only to get fired 6 months later with zero notice at a place with a lot of toxicity and that has shown they will easily sack anyone regardless of loyalty, respect or stature.

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Jakyl25
09/09/21 6:18:42 PM
#321:


TheRock1525 posted...
Meltzer is saying that the pitch to Adam Cole on the main roster was to be the manager of a heel Keith Lee.

On one hand, Vince is so out of touch that I absolutely believe it.

On the other hand, Cole described WWE's offer as very generous, so I have a hard time believing Vince would want to pay a lot of money for a manager.

My belief is that it was Vinces original idea that he obviously had to toss out once he was in a bidding war


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TheRock1525
09/09/21 8:30:25 PM
#322:


Bryan Danielson is even crazier (according to Meltzer again).

Bryan legit loved working in the WWE and loved Vince. And Vince loved him back, to the point where he tells people Bryan is his favorite wrestler. Both WWE and AEW offered similar contracts, similar work dates, and WWE was prepared to let him work in NJPW.

And Bryan still turned it down because he thought going to AEW was the healthiest decision for the wrestling industry.

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Fastbreak
09/10/21 1:23:31 AM
#324:


Clearly old by now but



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ZeroSignal620
09/11/21 1:20:57 PM
#325:


Something I thought we'd never be saying but...

Tomorrow marks 10 years since Ric Flair wrestled his final match

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Hardcore_Adult
09/11/21 5:13:03 PM
#326:


*will be super Happy if Big E cashes in before they pull an Otis or a Miz on him*

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TheRock1525
09/12/21 11:39:24 PM
#327:


Samoa Joe forced to vacate the NXT title due to injury.

Which is pretty coincidental for their big rebrand.

Are you ready for NXT champion Odyssey Jones?!?!

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Tom Bombadil
09/13/21 6:07:02 PM
#328:


https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/1437458929198542850 let's go?

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TheRock1525
09/13/21 7:27:15 PM
#329:


Big E with that reverse reverse psychology where everyone knows he's a trickster so they assume he's lying, only for him to actually cash-in.

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TheRock1525
09/13/21 9:57:46 PM
#330:


Johnny Gargano's contract is supposedly up soon, too.

Vince gonna get his Indie-Free dream without even having to try.

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ScareChan
09/13/21 11:01:30 PM
#331:


Big E your new champ

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TheRock1525
09/13/21 11:04:27 PM
#332:


Fuck yeah Big E. I know they only did it in response to AEW beating them in the ratings but I fucking love Big E and am super happy for him.

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XIII_rocks
09/13/21 11:55:45 PM
#333:


TheRock1525 posted...
Fuck yeah Big E. I know they only did it in response to AEW beating them in the ratings but I fucking love Big E and am super happy for him.

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Hardcore_Adult
09/14/21 6:00:06 AM
#334:


God, that made me feel GOOD! And knew that I would now.

And knowing a few people that hate Big E, it makes me feel even *better*!


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ninkendo
09/14/21 6:17:07 AM
#335:


Big E's like the only guy I feel like in WWE who's had a natural progression throughout his career and not just immediately forced into a spot so happy to see him finally get to this point

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Hardcore_Adult
09/14/21 6:32:00 AM
#336:


When he started out on the main roster he had a semi-forgettable IC Run and after that was largely bumping heads with Titus on Superstars until the whole New Day thing took off.

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FFDragon
09/14/21 7:05:29 AM
#337:


All I remember about early Big E is accidentally trying to cave in AJ's chest during an entrance

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Mega Mana
09/14/21 8:54:54 AM
#338:


FFDragon posted...
All I remember about early Big E is accidentally trying to cave in AJ's chest during an entrance

Big E, Zigs, AJ, and the Kaitlyn secret admirer story were big highlights from my first year watching.

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PrivateBiscuit1
09/14/21 11:57:43 AM
#339:


ninkendo posted...
Big E's like the only guy I feel like in WWE who's had a natural progression throughout his career and not just immediately forced into a spot so happy to see him finally get to this point
Uh, I mean... he got his first singles title 8 years ago. Hung out with a tag team for the next seven years with success. Then he won the briefcase. Then he fought Apollo Crews for months, exclusively. Then he was on the pre-show at the second biggest PPV of the year in a nothing match. Then he cashed in on an injured and tired Lashley to beat him for the title, on a whim when ratings needed popped.

I dunno what you call this aside from forcing him into a spot arbitrarily? He certainly wasn't pushed as a main event guy at all before this.

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Steiner
09/14/21 12:03:45 PM
#340:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
I dunno what you call this aside from forcing him into a spot arbitrarily? He certainly wasn't pushed as a main event guy at all before this.

wwe fan mentality has been trained to reject pushes and actual star booking though

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LiquidOshawott
09/14/21 12:09:31 PM
#341:


Cant wait for the Big E vs Apollo title match

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TheRock1525
09/14/21 3:16:13 PM
#342:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Uh, I mean... he got his first singles title 8 years ago. Hung out with a tag team for the next seven years with success. Then he won the briefcase. Then he fought Apollo Crews for months, exclusively. Then he was on the pre-show at the second biggest PPV of the year in a nothing match. Then he cashed in on an injured and tired Lashley to beat him for the title, on a whim when ratings needed popped.

I dunno what you call this aside from forcing him into a spot arbitrarily? He certainly wasn't pushed as a main event guy at all before this.

Some of the timeline here is off. They split him off New Day last year in October, I think, then had him win the IC title in December where they pushed it as a huge win (like they had the entire lockerroom come out and lift E on their shoulders) on that one Smackdown that did ridiculously good ratings thanks to an NFL lead in (like 3.4 million or something). At which point he got into that feud with Crews leading to a WM match where Crews won by an assist from Dabo-Kata. They were likely going to break off from there and have Big E feud with Aleistar Black, but we know how that turned out, so Crews got dragged out until MitB. E has also been pretty well protected. Don't think he has a single clean loss and finally got a good RR showing only to be screwed by Omos.

He wasn't treated like main event, but he was a well-protected upper midcard babyface who just needed one final push, which he got. I wouldn't say it was handled well, but I don't think it was arbitrary, either.

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Jakyl25
09/14/21 3:28:40 PM
#343:


I worry about Big E because he was not the plan

Like say he does a defense against Rollins and ratings arent through the roof. I can see Vince calling a last minute change and putting Seth over because hes comfort food

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Jakyl25
09/14/21 4:04:54 PM
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TheRock1525
09/14/21 6:30:31 PM
#345:


To be fair, it was going against a really crazy Monday Night Football game and the cash-in itself did 1.844 million.

Also Pete Dunne has apparently re-signed for 3 years.

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Tom Bombadil
09/14/21 9:15:53 PM
#346:


kevin dunn is trending so I assume nxt is going well

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Jakyl25
09/14/21 10:09:01 PM
#347:


The wedding was so perfect

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Whiskey_Nick
09/14/21 10:17:11 PM
#348:


<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_SrskwWUAAL_-v?format=jpg&name=small">

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ExThaNemesis
09/14/21 11:11:11 PM
#349:


Big E and Ciampa on back to back nights.

The AEW effect!

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Jakyl25
09/14/21 11:32:51 PM
#350:


Ciampa is just backup Samoa Joe

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TheRock1525
09/15/21 1:07:48 AM
#351:


Caucasian Tom.

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Hardcore_Adult
09/15/21 5:00:37 AM
#352:


Really wanted Dunne to win and really gutted but that F4W Delivered. Bloody well needed to after all that filler.

And Jesus, When was the last time a Wrestling Wedding actually went through w/o objection or someone getting their ass kicked.

Great way to kick off a New "Season" (if we can call it that)

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