Current Events > It's crazy just how bad Dark Souls 2 is tbh.

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When both 1 and 3 are absolute master pieces, 2 sticks out so hard as the turd in an otherwise great trilogy. I still have some fun playing through it, but fuck. There are so many flaws with it that are always right in your face

• Every area has a billion enemies that just gank the shit out of you. Lazy af difficulty.
• 90% of the bosses are large humanoids with a giant weapon and the same copy pasted moveset.
• Adaptability
• Soul Memory
• Absolute shit hitboxes
• The game is sooooooo sloooooooow. It feels like I'm underwater or some shit. Even drinking Estus in the middle of combat is slow as dirt. Yes, guy, calmly stop and admire the scenery before you drink what can save your FUCKING life in the middle of combat. Take your damn time.
• Cryptic as fuck bullshit like burning a metal windmill to make the area boss easier, or jumping down seemingly bottomless holes for souls of giants.
• Area progression making no sense. How the fuck do I take an elevator up from the top of a poison castle and end up in a lava castle? I didn't see 2 castles stacked together outside smh
• Dying constantly lowering your overall HP and unlike Humanities/Embers, the Effigies are rare as fuck.
• Weapon durability actually being a thing since it goes down quick af.

And that's just off the top of my head!

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Sometimes a second game in a good series is a blunder. DMC2 for example.

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2 is easily the best one
The only remaining issue is the durability bug on the base PC version

2 is such a poorly made unbalanced mess it doesnt get enough hate.

3 IS a masterpiece.

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ProfessorKukui posted...

> 3
> Masterpiece

It's better overall than 1 tbh. 1 is only good up until Anor Londo, then the rest of the game takes a nosedive in quality.

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3 is absolutely the worst fucking one

like between the insanely broken hitboxes and script hitting with bosses, the balance is completely off kilter and the sheer amount of fucking linear progression
And the quests are even worse

'bro make sure to join this covenant by uh... randomly talking to an enemy that looks like one but isn't'

nothanks1 posted...

3 is absolutely the worst fucking one

like between the insanely broken hitboxes and script hitting with bosses, the balance is completely off kilter and the sheer amount of fucking linear progression
And the quests are even worse

'bro make sure to join this covenant by uh... randomly talking to an enemy that looks like one but isn't'

You must've skipped 1 and 2. 3 absolutely has much better hitboxes.

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BipBapBam posted...

It's better overall than 1 tbh. 1 is only good up until Anor Londo, then the rest of the game takes a nosedive in quality.

1 is only great because of the DLC which is fantastic.

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3 doesn't force me to waste a bunch of level ups on a stat to make my rolls actually fucking work. By default it literally can't be the worst one.

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Irony posted...

You must've skipped 1 and 2. 3 absolutely has much better hitboxes.

My personal favourite hitbox in 3 is *checks notes* being behind the curserotted greatwood boss and teleported into his hands
I do also enjoy fighting the stray demon and *checks notes* being behind him too and being teleported into his hands for his grab

3 is the best and @nothanks1 cant even get fucked cuz hes a shitty ugly person

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BipBapBam posted...

3 doesn't force me to waste a bunch of level ups on a stat to make my rolls actually fucking work. By default it literally can't be the worst one.

'oh no I have to... invest in stats to get better'

Here's the sad part. You can easily beat the game with 85adp. It's like bitching that you decided to fat roll in Dark Souls 1 because you had to invest in stamina/get havel/fap ring

He pmd me to tell me he marked me lol

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Oh, so that guy's just trolling then lol.

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Nah I just know the superior game is DS2

Don't get me wrong. DS1 would be a reasonably good game but they dropped the ball after the midpoint.
Dark Souls 3 has stuff like scripted attacks on bosses and teleporting dogs.
Meanwhile DS2 is like: bro this is NG+1, let's change shit up.

The only examples of bad hitboxes I can think of offhand are the grab attacks by the ogres and the mimics. People talk about the Pursuer's curse stab, but that one is less an issue with hitboxes as an animation issue where it hits you, but has to teleport you onto the sword to play the animation properly.

Really, just put more points into ADP. Get AGI to 100 or 105. Levels come fast in DS2, and it's really not a big deal.

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I don't think I will ever get over adapability as a concept

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nothanks1 posted...

this is NG+1, let's change shit up.

That's honestly the only thing I can think of that DS2 does better than 1/3. And even then, the fact it locks shit behind NG+s like the Moonlight GS is kind of annoying. At least the ascetics help with it, but it's still forcing me to go through areas/bosses multiple times just for basic shit. Not like the stuff locked behind it is busted or anything. >_____>

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refmon posted...

I don't think I will ever get over adapability as a concept

It's basically removing the reliance on endurance for i-frames

If I want to be a high i-frame tank I can be without investing both ring slots + endurance
I only need like 10 levels in adp

I think the most fun I had in DS2 was jolly co-oping Smelter and laughing at all the hosts that would challenge his explosion and die lmao.

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Iron Keep PVP was the best in the series until they added Ringed City tbh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P1eKThZG-g

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Iron Keep is so fun.
It's exactly what Dark Souls tried to do in the first game but failed so hard
The game literally teaches you not to run in blindly and what did people do? Bitch because 'guise why is all this enemies coming at me too hard!!!!'

Take. Your. Fucking. Time.

ProfessorKukui posted...

> 3
> Masterpiece

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The dull environments are what I hate most about DS2

So ugly and uninteresting
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Oh yeah, jolly co-oping the chariot was fucking hilarious too. Especially if the host summoned someone else, you'd sometimes run into that situation where only 2 people fit in the little hidey holes and someone would panic, run and die lmao.

I liked just rolling through the chariot's sides to show off my Chadness

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ProfessorKukui posted...

> 3
> Masterpiece

God damn I need to play Custom Robo again.

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BipBapBam posted...

Dying constantly lowering your overall HP and unlike Humanities/Embers, the Effigies are rare as fuck.

Oh yeah punishing you for dying in a game that IS ALL ABOUT DYING OVER AND OVER with not only cosmetic degration but health mechanics too was a totally fucked up idea.

I was relieved as all hell when the first time I died in DS3, the main thing I noticed was an absent counter by the health bar, meaning FromSoft learned from their mistakes.


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Anyway I agree. DS2 standalone is only like a 6/10 game, the only cool areas are Brume Tower and Shrine of Amana (even through the shrine is cancer to traverse)

I'm in the Undead Crypt now and I just want to be strong enough to wheeled to greatswords and still fast roll

The only cool thing DS2 has over the others is more open ended dual wielded weapons. I'm trying to DW Greatswords right now. And I eventually want to stop fat rolling. But that's any two GS, unlike 3 where it's relegated to specific dual weapons.

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ApherosyLove posted...

Sometimes a second game in a good series is a blunder. DMC2 for example.

git gud

sabrestorm posted...

git gud

DS2 is painfully easy. Several weapons are broken and sorcery makes you invincible.

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