Current Events > If you still oppose the COVID-19 vaccine, you're an idiot.

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Roughly 50% of the US population is fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (151 million)

Of the 18,000 deaths from COVID-19 in May 2021, 99.2% were unvaccinated.

That's over 17,000 deaths that could've been avoided if everyone was vaccinated. In a single month.

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Counterpoint: If you ever opposed the COVID-19 vaccine, you're an idiot
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Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

Any long term effect is most likely better than the short term effect of being dead or long term effect of being crippled.

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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

I hate when people say this. The long term effects would be known by now.

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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Counterpoint: If you ever opposed the COVID-19 vaccine, you're an idiot

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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

We know the long term effects of contracting Covid though.

Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

What long term effects could there be? The vaccine just grows some spike proteins in your muscle cells, that are cleared out in a few weeks. Any allergic reactions would happen in this time, but nothing remains in the body beyond that. For long term effects you'd need some severe damage to occur in a major organ (like what Covid causes), or otherwise some long term repeated exposure to something harmful.

I don't care about those people anymore.

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Woodger posted...

What long term effects could there be? The vaccine just grows some spike proteins in your muscle cells, that are cleared out in a few weeks. Any allergic reactions would happen in this time, but nothing remains in the body beyond that. For long term effects you'd need some severe damage to occur in a major organ (like what Covid causes), or otherwise some long term repeated exposure to something harmful.

I mean, Im not a gen therapist / doctor / biologist so I dont know about these kind of things. I know that my uncles inlaw worked on the J&J vaccine, but thats far away removed family so cant really discuss there lol.

But like I said, I dont know what other information could possibly be revealed after more studies are brought to light.


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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

I mean, Im not a gen therapist / doctor / biologist so I dont know about these kind of things

Then you should probably shut the fuck up.

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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

Fortunately, we do know the long-term effects of being dead

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Calm thyself sir.

God forbid you comment on a subject while not being knowledgeable about said subject.

Just having question, not trying to force or mock anyone, so again, calm thyself or take your own advise.

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DarkRoast posted...

Fortunately, we do know the long-term effects of being dead

yeah, thats pretty permanent @_@

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someone i know is losing their job as a care worker because they refuse to get vaccinated.

fuck 'em.

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TwoDoorPC posted...

someone i know is losing their job as a care worker because they refuse to get vaccinated.

fuck 'em.

Good. Putting other people at risk for your own hubris is sociopathy.

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Long term effects would be 5 and 10 years later but who has time to wait for that.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Long term effects would be 5 and 10 years later but who has time to wait for that.

Unlike any other vaccine ever

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DarkRoast posted...

Fortunately, we do know the long-term effects of being dead

I love that as a medical doctor this is your official diagnosis

Yeah so I've been fully vaxxed since early April. I 100% believe in the vaccine and think everyone should get it and ............

Although I certainly don't think very highly of the intellect of those who refuse to get it, I really wish people wouldn't so publicly call them out as stupid. I mean, I get the sentiment lol, but it also seems really unhelpful to call anti vaxxers stupid.

Shouldn't we be exploring ways to overcome vaccine hesitancy? I don't get the impression that calling anyone stupid actually works to lessen vaccine hesitancy.

I also believe there still exists some inequity in terms of availability to certain communities on top of some communities having high degrees of hesitancy. It isn't all rural white people who voted for Trump who are refusing the vaccine. There are groups in that category who don't exactly fit the immediate stereotype of a vaccine hesitant individual.

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This sort of commentary does not win people over. Insulting a person's intelligence causes most to cling to their views even harder.
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DarkRoast posted...

Fortunately, we do know the long-term effects of being dead

Ive also heard some nast stories about covid survivors.. so to speak.

Some woman still felt sick 4 months after being infected, is the one i remember but i swear ive seen more

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You wanna make an omelette, you gotta crack a few eggs!

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Ruvan22 posted...

I love that as a medical doctor this is your official diagnosis

TC is a troll. On her third or fourth account. The OP of it and the topic title reeks of arrogance.

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The right: "Would you like heart problems now or lung problems in the future?"

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sull56ivan2010 posted...

TC is a troll. On her third or fourth account. The OP of it and the topic title reeks of arrogance.

Someone doesn't have a vaccine.

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sull56ivan2010 posted...

TC is a troll. On her third or fourth account. The OP of it and the topic title reeks of arrogance.

Thats how Im leaning, being a doctor or whatever they are just seems like theyre gimmick and not actuality.

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whitelytning posted...

Someone doesn't have a vaccine.

Doesn't excuse TC's trolling.

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Trump and the entire gop got the shot as soon as it was available i want to know why trumpers and the right dont do what there politicians did

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Thats how Im leaning, being a doctor or whatever they are just seems like theyre gimmick and not actuality.

There are several of us who are physicians and pharmacists, and we know who we are.

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TuckersImp posted...

This sort of commentary does not win people over. Insulting a person's intelligence causes most to cling to their views even harder.

Yet Tucker Carlson knows no other way...

DarkRoast posted...

There are several of us who are physicians and pharmacists, and we know who we are.

And are you all being taught vaccine or death, or is that just some bias junk you actually think is legit.

Halo478 posted...

Trump and the entire gop got the shot as soon as it was available i want to know why trumpers and the right dont do what there politicians did

It is so very funny but also so sad how sheltered some of yall are.

You do realize its more than just people on the right not getting vaccinated right? Right??

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TuckersImp posted...

This sort of commentary does not win people over. Insulting a person's intelligence causes most to cling to their views even harder.

Being "won over" requires a willingness to change one's mind.


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Blacks and latinos are the least vaccinated race in the US. So this topic is racist.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

And are you all being taught vaccine or death, or is that just some bias junk you actually think is legit.

Mathematically, there would be 17,000 less deaths last month alone if everyone was vaccinated. So, yes.

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sull56ivan2010 posted...

TC is a troll. On her third or fourth account. The OP of it and the topic title reeks of arrogance.

CoffeeBeans before, none others that I know of. Arrogance perhaps but I haven't seen any trolling (like you attacking her rather than debating her statement).

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

DarkRoast posted...

Mathematically, there would be 17,000 less deaths last month alone if everyone was vaccinated. So, yes.

Halo478 posted...

Trump and the entire gop got the shot as soon as it was available i want to know why trumpers and the right dont do what there politicians did

ahem

MelbuFrahma4 posted...

Blacks and latinos are the least vaccinated race in the US. So this topic is racist.

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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Calm thyself sir.

God forbid you comment on a subject while not being knowledgeable about said subject.

Just having question, not trying to force or mock anyone, so again, calm thyself or take your own advise.

Actually being a doctor/pharmacologist/virologist is a requirement to discuss Covid or the vaccine here on CE.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

And are you all being taught vaccine or death, or is that just some bias junk you actually think is legit.

It is so very funny but also so sad how sheltered some of yall are.

You do realize its more than just people on the right not getting vaccinated right? Right??

I.. okay to be clear are you saying that physician/nurse training is "bias junk"?

SergeantGander posted...

Actually being a doctor/pharmacologist/virologist is a requirement to discuss Covid or the vaccine here on CE.

"Just asking questions' is often used on CE to dogwhistle

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

ahem

Ahem





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Colonel_Snitsky posted...

Im not against vaccinations, but We still dont know long term effects @_@

So you are fine with the long term effects of getting covid instead? Also the short term effect of death?

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My wifes pharmacist got Covid during July 2020, and donates her blood every month cause she still has the antibodies. Im healthy and 36 years old, so Im safe to assume I still have them after getting covid during Christmas 2020, before the vaccines were given to the general population.

Its basic science to assume a healthy body makes antibodies after a virus, and honestly its probably because of $$$ that this fact is being suppressed for a vaccine.

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DarkRoast posted...

There are several of us who are physicians and pharmacists, and we know who we are.

You're the same person who posted stock photos of a brand new mustang and swore that it was yours.

You got caught in a straight up bald faced lie on here about something stupid as fuck, why should we believe you about something actually important such as a medical degree or medical advice?

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Its basic science to assume a healthy body makes antibodies after a virus, and honestly its probably because of $$$ that this fact is being suppressed for a vaccine.

Fun fact, there are plenty of examples of both viruses and bacteria that have poorly immunogenic epitopes. Perhaps the best example is the tetanus toxin. It literally generates no immunity.


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yemmy posted...

ball faced lie

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Ruvan22 posted...

TuckersImp posted...

This sort of commentary does not win people over. Insulting a person's intelligence causes most to cling to their views even harder.

Yet Tucker Carlson knows no other way...

He doesn't insult his audience. He caters to their existing opinions to earn their trust. He uses that trust to introduce them to new ideas and explains what views they should have on those ideas.
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