Current Events > Will restaurants ever be well staffed again?

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I hope to God once the $300 stimulus on unemployment and that people go back to work in restaurants because I am sick of the staffing issues in every place I eat

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pay a living wage then they will be well staffed

yes once we get the democraps out of office and stop giving away money for nothing
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

I hope to God once the $300 stimulus on unemployment and that people go back to work in restaurants because I am sick of the staffing issues in every place I eat

Someone won't serve me so I'm going to make a topic on Gamefaqs about how mad I am that people are looking for better wages for better lives----TC

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The customers of the laborers need to be willing to pay more. You wont have enough supply if the price is below what the suppliers are willing to provide their service at.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

I hope to God once the $300 stimulus on unemployment and that people go back to work in restaurants because I am sick of the staffing issues in every place I eat

this post reeks of the me me me me me me attitude an entitled kid would have

Yes once they replace all those workers with robots like they said they would

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I'm worried about the mom and pop shops that are going to permanently close.
Have fun eating at Olive Garden for all your Italian needs.

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PoopPotato posted...

I'm worried about the mom and pop shops that are going to permanently close.
Have fun eating at Olive Garden for all your Italian needs.

if your business model relies on paying $2.15 to your employees per hour, literally $2.15, or else you go under, do you even deserve to have a business?

Also I don't see why the Olive Gardens of the world can't be made to pay min wage while the mum & pap shops can pay less (but still not fucking $2.15 lmao)

^I mean thats the market of this kind of job

If those workers think they should get more money, go to school and get some skills for jobs that pay more

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they could try paying actual wages

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CADE FOSTER posted...

pay a living wage then they will be well staffed

Or...

Quit giving away free money

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We don't even have an unemployment rate issue anymore. 5.8% and it's continuing to shrink, especially as more areas have higher vaccination rates and things continue to open up.

They really did just up and find better jobs lol.

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DarthAragorn posted...

they could try paying actual wages

To be honest, those jobs pay that little because anyone can do that kind of job

its the market that dictates value

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

^I mean thats the market of this kind of job

If those workers think they should get more money, go to school and get some skills for jobs that pay more

alternatively, they refuse to work at the shit restaurant and it closes. maybe try not supporting functional slave labor yeah?

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Theyll never pay actual wages outside of some extremely gentrified areas that will actually keep on paying the raised prices to dine out. Wait staff is on the workforce fringe and always largely will be. Turnover is high, the work sucks, and its low pay.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

To be honest, those jobs pay that little because anyone can do that kind of job

its the market that dictates value

And now the market has spoken

Big corp gotta pay up and stop using taxpayers to subsidize the wages of their employees

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yemmy posted...

Or...

Quit giving away free money

Nah, keep doing that

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Will_VIIII posted...

And now the market has spoken

Big corp gotta pay up and stop using taxpayers to subsidize the wages of their employees

The government giving away free money is not "the market".

And yes unemployment is currently down nationally. Many states ended the extra $300. Most states that didn't still have high unemployment rates.

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yemmy posted...

The government giving away free money is not "the market".

And yes unemployment is currently down nationally. Many states ended the extra $300. Most states that didn't still have high unemployment rates.

The stimulus isn't causing this. You can keep repeating it, but it's not true.

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dolomedes posted...

lmao @ 'free money'

Yeah, that is super funny guy

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Guide posted...

The stimulus isn't causing this. You can keep repeating it, but it's not true.

>tc complains of understaffed restaurants
>smooth brain posts "unemployment is down"
>i point out that over a dozen states ended extra $300 and that states that didn't still have high unemployment
>"its not true, qUIt rEPeaTiNG iT"

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I mean I'm tempted to work nights at some of these local joints. Some of em are paying $15 an hour and still can't find servers

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yemmy posted...

The government giving away free money is not "the market".

And yes unemployment is currently down nationally. Many states ended the extra $300. Most states that didn't still have high unemployment rates.

I'm talking about in general where many of these employees are subsidized by food stamps. It's verifiable that both Walmart and McDonald's actually encourages their employees to apply.

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yemmy posted...

smooth brain posts

Oh look a corporate shill is projecting

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

^I mean thats the market of this kind of job

If those workers think they should get more money, go to school and get some skills for jobs that pay more

It clearly isnt though otherwise the businesses wouldnt be having trouble finding workers. Market rate is above what these places are paying.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

^I mean thats the market of this kind of job

If those workers think they should get more money, go to school and get some skills for jobs that pay more

You do not get it. There is no market. It was a lie.
People are led to think there is a supply and demand tension that creates the market, but when the market goes the way of the non-rich people they simply rig the thing again and claim there is a labor shortage and ask the government to cut benefits and stuff like that.

AzNDarkSamurai posted...

To be honest, those jobs pay that little because anyone can do that kind of job

its the market that dictates value

if the market dictates value, doesn't the complete lack of people willing to work for shit pay dictate something

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My state ends the unemployment bonus in a few days so we'll see
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I think people are tired of taking shit from entitled babies such as those seen ITT. See what your entitlement has left you.

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Unemployment is less than six percent. So if they're having staffing issues blame the restaurant.
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^I mean is it really their fault if thats how the market for that kind of work is? That will always be the pay scale

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metallica846 posted...

I know people keep saying how unemployment is around 6% but that is just people that they can report on. That number has historically always been under reported.

https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/mobile/u-3-was-6-1-percent-u-6-was-10-4-percent-in-april-2021.htm

U3 is total unemployed.

Using U6 is stupid because it counts part time people as unemployed.

The most broadly defined rate, U-6, includes unemployed people, plus people who are "marginally attached' to the labor force, plus people who work part time for economic reasons. The marginally attached are neither working nor looking for work but want and are available for a job and have looked for work sometime in the past 12 months. People who work part time for economic reasons are those that would have preferred full-time employment, but were working part time because their hours had been cut or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

U6 counts people that companies have cut their hours. If you're having staffing issues and you cut people's hours that's on you.
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Ihop had a 2 hour wait on father's day and had to eat fast food with my family. While it is an inconvenience, it is no way more urgent than waiter rights.

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Covid broke the hospitality bubble. People are realising that it's not normal nor sane nor sustainable to pay people less than liveable wages, put them into high-stress environments, deny them basic employee rights and expect them to do 16 hour shifts.

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CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

is no way more urgent than waiter rights.

Wait, what?!

/humour

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A society should be for better things than funneling people into Applebee's kitchens

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Antifar posted...

A society should be for better things than funneling people into Applebee's kitchens

And this is where we realize that the social contract was never a thing.

Things have been carefully designed to funnel people into low pay service, retail and other menial jobs. Everything. Why is health care tied to employers? Why is college a requirement for jobs, yet it's still highly selective and a high capital investment? Why doesn't college prepare you for a job then? Why is the economy always too bad to allow for wage increases or tax breaks or better social safety nets but it is always good enough to afford sending Israel millions or billions of dollars, and giving insane tax breaks to billionaires?

Or just learn to cook.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

To be honest, those jobs pay that little because anyone can do that kind of job

its the market that dictates value

Yes.
Right now, however, the market is dictating a higher value.

Not anyone can be a server. Anyone can be a dishwasher but most people quit.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Not anyone can be a server. Anyone can be a dishwasher but most people quit.

Wait how? Being a server isnt exactly a high skilled job.

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AzNDarkSamurai posted...

Wait how? Being a server isnt exactly a high skilled job.

If a person isn't a female with nice assets to show off it does take some work and charm to do it successfully, and by successfully I mean earn those high tips consistently. At least in America.Take tip earning out of the equation then yes I would agree almost anyone can do it.
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Part of it is corporate realizing they can save money by forcing a skeleton crew. Part of it is corporate punishing the general public for voting for minimum wage increase. Part of it is the workers refusing to take a job that doesnt cover their expenses (aka corporate refusing to pay the workers). Youre probably never going to see a well staffed restaurant again, now.

Basically, dont eat at restaurants. Its enabling people to abuse workers.

If the restaurant owners can't adapt and attract employees, then maybe the owners are too low skilled for this industry and should go learn to code instead.

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^hopefully they wouldnt pay minimum wage if everyone knew how to do that

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