Current Events > 75% of antiAsian attacks were committed by Whites before and during pandemic

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2Pacavelli
06/22/21 9:58:06 PM
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JoelMiller95
06/22/21 10:03:29 PM
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Karthick Ramakrishnan, founder of AAPI Data, a data and civic engagement nonprofit group, for which Wong also works, said that the public's perception of perpetrators and victims is largely formed by the images that have been widely circulated but that they aren't representative of most anti-Asian bias incidents. For example, the videos that have gone viral are more likely to be from low-income, urban areas where there is more surveillance, he said.

"You have security camera videos that are more available and prevalent in certain types of urban settings. And so that's what's available to people in terms of sharing," Ramakrishnan said. "The videos are more viral than if it's something that doesn't have any imagery or video connected to it, like something that's happening in the suburbs, for example."

Interesting.
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pick4six
06/23/21 7:11:38 AM
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#StopAsianHate #TrumpLiesPeopleDie

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Ricemills
06/23/21 7:11:52 AM
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Lathissamus
06/23/21 7:30:45 AM
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The data is contradicting itself.

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Frolex
06/23/21 7:35:10 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
The data is contradicting itself.

no it isn't, you just can't read

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Lathissamus
06/23/21 7:38:51 AM
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Lathissamus
06/23/21 7:40:16 AM
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Frolex posted...
no it isn't, you just can't read
I actually read the source data, it literally says violent hate crimes *against Asians* are more likely to be perpetuated by non-whites. The argument is that the mainstream coverage of physical attacks on Asians gets it wrong by not saying it's mostly white people.

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Frolex
06/23/21 7:44:20 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
I actually read the source data, it literally says violent hate crimes are more likely to be perpetuated by non-whites. The argument is that the mainstream coverage of physical attacks on Asians gets it wrong by not saying it's mostly white people.

No, the segment you linked claims that anti-asian hate crimes have a higher proportion of non-white perpetrators than other racial hate crimes but that the overwhelming majority of the crimes are still being committed by whites.

you cannot read.

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Squall28
06/23/21 7:47:00 AM
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76.3% of Americans are white according to the census bureau so this conclusion is actually not that great.

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Lathissamus
06/23/21 7:52:55 AM
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Frolex posted...
No, the segment you linked claims that anti-asian hate crimes have a higher proportion of non-white perpetrators than other racial hate crimes but that the overwhelming majority of the crimes are still being committed by whites.

you cannot read.
The irony.

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Frolex
06/23/21 7:57:11 AM
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Squall28 posted...
76.3% of Americans are white according to the census bureau so this conclusion is actually not that great.
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/RHI825219#RHI825219

it's 60.1%. try again.

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Returning_CEmen
06/23/21 7:59:23 AM
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I had a feeling this was the case, and yet black on Asian crime is all they show on TV (still repulsive) to cause a race war, which thankfully never happened.


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Alteres
06/23/21 8:02:17 AM
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This also includes verbal incidents which could be different than what some people are thinking of.

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Squall28
06/23/21 8:07:26 AM
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It says 76.3% in your own link. The Hispanic thing throws everything off.

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Bad_Mojo
06/23/21 8:08:23 AM
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Alteres posted...
This also includes verbal incidents which could be different than what some people are thinking of.

This is why polls are a bunch of BS when it comes to "facts" like this, but that's for a whole other topic. But yes, there is a huge problematic narrative going on right now in the media, but that always happens in the media, it's mostly all scumbags that want to stir the pot and make everyone hate each other

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Frolex
06/23/21 8:09:38 AM
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Squall28 posted...
It says 76.3% in your own link. The Hispanic thing throws everything off.

well unfortunately for you, "The Hispanic thing" is throwing everything off in the study in this topic too. try better for your next one.

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Squall28
06/23/21 8:21:53 AM
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Frolex posted...
well unfortunately for you, "The Hispanic thing" is throwing everything off in the study in this topic too. try better for your next one.

So it's consistent and we should take it into consideration that most of the crimes are committed by whites because most Americans are white?

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Frolex
06/23/21 8:29:40 AM
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Squall28 posted...


You don't think these people would report "white" instead of hispanic when being punished by law but will say white on the census instead?

Stop pretending to be this dumb. The study counts latino and white americans as separate categories. trying make yourself look stupid enough that i start to feel bad for you is not trying better

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EndOfDiscOne
06/23/21 8:32:59 AM
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Is Frolex Rebel?

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Squall28
06/23/21 8:33:48 AM
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Frolex posted...
Stop pretending to be this dumb. The study counts latino and white americans as separate categories. trying make yourself look stupid enough that i start to feel bad for you is not trying better

If you were able to be convicted of a crime, would you identify as latino or white?

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Frolex
06/23/21 8:37:08 AM
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Squall28 posted...
If you were able to be convicted of a crime, would you identify as latino or white?

"the study actually supports my view once you account for the fact that all hispanics are liars"

should have sent a poet

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WashYourHands
06/23/21 8:45:02 AM
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Is there a study showing violent crime only?

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Squall28
06/23/21 8:46:39 AM
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Frolex posted...
"the study actually supports my view once you account for the fact that all hispanics are liars"

should have sent a poet

They're not liars. They do have white heritage. That's why the census shows 76%.

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Lebronwon
06/23/21 8:47:16 AM
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Ricemills posted...
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I have posted articles about it. I have no control over where the crimes are reported or who is committing the crimes in what is covered. I have noticed LA and NYC are where most of the crimes seem to be covered as well as have video footage of it. Both of those cities seem to have Asian reporters who are trying to raise awareness about it.

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Frolex
06/23/21 8:50:59 AM
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Squall28 posted...
They're not liars. They do have white heritage.

uh huh. still doesn't change the fact the study counts them as separate categories, no matter how hard you cry

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Lathissamus
06/23/21 8:53:53 AM
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Frolex
06/23/21 9:00:08 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12103-020-09602-9

Frolex posted...
the segment you linked claims that anti-asian hate crimes have a higher proportion of non-white perpetrators than other racial hate crimes but that the overwhelming majority of the crimes are still being committed by whites.

you cannot read.


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Lathissamus
06/23/21 9:04:42 AM
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You keep saying that but don't realize you're being obtuse.

"the segment I linked" is the actual source data the professor that the article attributed used in her report. They deliberately change the wording at certain points to reflect the idea that the recent physical hate crimes being shown perpetuated by other minorities shouldn't be taken at face value, and that we should still blame white people for all of it.

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WashYourHands
06/23/21 9:07:04 AM
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Who will win the battle of reading comprehension?! Tune in next time for another exciting episode of ce drama

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Squall28
06/23/21 9:08:44 AM
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Frolex posted...
uh huh. still doesn't change the fact the study counts them as separate categories, no matter how hard you cry

Sounds like you are a one drop rule guy rofl. White hispanics aren't white. There's a Latino category for them. That's where they all go!

So long brother. Have fun with your narrative.

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Frolex
06/23/21 9:11:33 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
You keep saying that but don't realize you're being obtuse.

"the segment I linked" is the actual source data the professor that the article attributed used in her report. They deliberately change the wording at certain points to reflect the idea that the recent physical hate crimes being shown perpetuated by other minorities shouldn't be taken at face value, and that we should still blame white people for all of it.

Wrong again. The article sates that certain narratives and media sources are overrepresenting the amount of anti-asian hate crimes committed by non-whites to the point that they make up the majority of their reporting, when the data shows the vast majority of the perpetrators of anti-asian hate crimes are white. you're about as competent at media literacy as you are at delivering on your bets

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Frolex
06/23/21 9:13:46 AM
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Squall28 posted...


Sounds like you are a one drop rule guy rofl. White hispanics aren't white. There's a Latino category for them. That's where they all go!

So long brother. Have fun with your narrative.

sounds like you realized the mistake you made about halfway thorugh this topic and instead of acknowledging it you doubled down and tried to pivot to this pathetic attempt to save face.

on the bright side, you have now achieved the "making me feel bad for you" strat

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shnangyboos
06/23/21 9:14:49 AM
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True problem group identified. Society's gonna have to do something about those problem group.

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Lathissamus
06/23/21 9:15:54 AM
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Frolex posted...
Wrong again. The article sates that certain narratives and media sources are overrepresenting the amount of anti-asian hate crimes committed by non-whites to the point that they make up the majority of their reporting, when the data shows the vast majority of the perpetrators of anti-asian hate crimes are white. you're about as competent at media literacy as you are at delivering on your bets
I agree with @Squall28 , have fun arguing with everyone because you're intellectually dishonest.

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Frolex
06/23/21 9:17:25 AM
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Lathissamus posted...
I agree with @Squall28 , have fun arguing with everyone because you're intellectually dishonest.

Frolex posted...


sounds like you realized the mistake you made about halfway thorugh this topic and instead of acknowledging it you doubled down and tried to pivot to this pathetic attempt to save face.

on the bright side, you have now achieved the "making me feel bad for you" strat


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KStateKing17
06/23/21 9:18:44 AM
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Squall28 posted...
If you were able to be convicted of a crime, would you identify as latino or white?
I've seen often that people can choose both. Forms give the option to identify as white, black, Asian/Pacific Islander etc. Then in a separate area it also asks if you are Hispanic or Latino. Ideally you could choose white/latino, black/latino, just latino or choose a race and put no for latino. I'd imagine ot causes some overlap.

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Middle hope
06/23/21 10:37:40 PM
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WashYourHands
06/23/21 10:52:43 PM
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Middle hope posted...
Were allowed to post crime statistics again?

Since when?
Why wouldnt crime statistics be allowed?

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Goatsensation
06/24/21 12:02:19 AM
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Because the window lickers overwhelmingly bring them up to try and justify their racism.

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WashYourHands
06/24/21 12:09:16 AM
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Goatsensation posted...
Because the window lickers overwhelmingly bring them up to try and justify their racism.
Seems silly to not allow any statistics as long as they are truthful.

now bogus statistics can go take a stroll off a cliff

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ThePrinceFish
06/24/21 12:22:00 AM
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Frolex posted...
Wrong again. The article sates that certain narratives and media sources are overrepresenting the amount of anti-asian hate crimes committed by non-whites to the point that they make up the majority of their reporting, when the data shows the vast majority of the perpetrators of anti-asian hate crimes are white. you're about as competent at media literacy as you are at delivering on your bets
That is not what that article says at all. That study says that in 89.6% of media articles where race was identified (which the article states is a very very small percentage of media articles; most do not identify the race of the perpetrators), they were identified as being white. That's the opposite of saying that the media is putting forth black perpetrators as the majority of their reporting. How you can be so smug about the opposite of what the report's data says is laughable.

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deoxxys
06/24/21 12:32:53 AM
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White people constitute the majority of the U.S. population, with a total of about 234,370,202 or 73% of the population as of 2017. Including multiracial people, the white share of the population exceeds 75%.
-Wikipedia

I think I remember reading somewhere, that light skinned Hispanics make up like 7-8% of what I read as of a few years ago was 77%. I can confirm no one considered us to be Hispanic, people just always default us to being white because we dont have dark skin.

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Sad_Face
06/24/21 12:38:24 AM
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WashYourHands posted...
Seems silly to not allow any statistics as long as they are truthful.

It sounds silly, but it's necessary to maintain the status quo and peace among a diverse nation. There are some things that shouldn't be normalized for the sake of society. Notice how the hate crimes in the OP don't discriminate between verbal harassment and violent crimes in the statistics reporting.

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Frolex
06/24/21 12:51:56 AM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
That is not what that article says at all. That study says that in 89.6% of media articles where race was identified (which the article states is a very very small percentage of media articles; most do not identify the race of the perpetrators), they were identified as being white. That's the opposite of saying that the media is putting forth black perpetrators as the majority of their reporting. How you can be so smug about the opposite of what the report's data says is laughable.

"This is really how crime is framed in the United States it's framed as the source is Black," Wong said.
Karthick Ramakrishnan, founder of AAPI Data, a data and civic engagement nonprofit group, for which Wong also works, said that the public's perception of perpetrators and victims is largely formed by the images that have been widely circulated but that they aren't representative of most anti-Asian bias incidents. For example, the videos that have gone viral are more likely to be from low-income, urban areas where there is more surveillance, he said.

"These kinds of images and narratives of racial tension Black violence on Asian people are getting shared in Asia, as well. There is a transnational component to it," he said. "Whatever aspect of anti-Black racism or racial prejudice that some Asian Americans might have will also matter, in terms of what ends up being more prominent, because these go to social networks, especially through social networks apps, as well."

your turn to try again champ

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muchdran
06/24/21 1:00:44 AM
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The media knows what's its doing.
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Smackems
06/24/21 1:06:07 AM
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Why y'all always so mad

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hockeybub89
06/24/21 1:08:04 AM
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Goatsensation posted...
Because the window lickers overwhelmingly bring them up to try and justify their racism.
I remember when The Admiral and others would parade around violent crime numbers to justify why black people should be stopped and frisked

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