Current Events > Loki Episode 3 Topic *SPOILERS*

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The bigger problem I find is the series is 6 episodes so 16% of the show (33% so far) could be considered forgettable.

Other than the TVA reveal that most people had guessed I dont feel like weve progressed anywhere story wise as we dont really know Sylvie any better. We dont know what she wants or why. We dont know what happened with the branching timelines.

If we look at the end of last episode there was no character progression or plot progression. For a 6 episode show that isnt great. TBH I was pretty bored throughout it, which is something I cant say for the first two.

That being said I really like the theory that the whole episode was Sylvie enchanting Loki. And I agree that Loki hasnt smashed the Tempad either

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Just realized something....with the reveal that all the TVA agents are time variants, and we know the TVA destroys variant timelines, I imagine that if the TVA/Timekeepers were to ever be destroyed, those people would probably get their memories back.

But then where do they go? You'd effectively have "time refugees" who would be forced to live in other timelines.

Could have huge implications for the MCU going forward.

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Are we even sure there are Timekeepers

And if there are, maybe theyre variants too

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Shablagoo posted...

And if there are, maybe theyre variants too

I didn't even think about that, but I could see that happening

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Shablagoo posted...

Are we even sure there are Timekeepers

And if there are, maybe theyre variants too

I think they exist but they are definitey not 3 space lizards. I reckon there may just be one person in charge.

SUPER SPOILERS AHEAD WITH FUTURE MOVIE RUMOURS
Ive heard that Kang is supposed to be in Antman 3 and seeing him originate from here could be very interesting

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So, Loki can just casually toss buildings with his mind now? I'm all for giving him new powers, but with that kind of power he definitely shouldn't keep getting ragdoll'd around... by normal humans even.

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Im gonna be really disappointed if Lady Loki isnt a Loki variant. Like its cool if they opt to combine Enchantress and Lady Loki together into one character.

But I think story wise and for character development and all that, them being the same person that split off at some point is way more interesting and full of potential.

like why even introduce Variants and all that? Just to set up that twist and throwing away soo much potential.

More so then nah, shes/someone is framing Loki Its not a very particular clever or cool twist imo. Though maybe Im a little jaded from a different super hero show at the moment.

KogaSteelfang posted...

So, Loki can just casually toss buildings with his mind now? I'm all for giving him new powers, but with that kind of power he definitely shouldn't keep getting ragdoll'd around... by normal humans even.

It seems to take quite a lot of effort and concentration for him to do the bigger stuff like that. Not something easily done in the middle of a battle.
Also, it's not a new power. He's had it at least as far back as Dark World, when he wrecked his cell after learning of his mother's death. This is just on a bigger scale, but not unreasonably bigger being a "god" and all.

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BLAKUboy posted...

It seems to take quite a lot of effort and concentration for him to do the bigger stuff like that. Not something easily done in the middle of a battle.
Also, it's not a new power. He's had it at least as far back as Dark World, when he wrecked his cell after learning of his mother's death. This is just on a bigger scale, but not unreasonably bigger being a "god" and all.

Ah, I thought him grabbing that clock or whatever it was last episode was his first display of telekinesis.

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I assumed it was a Roomba.

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Loki smashing the cocktail glass and yelling "another!" on the train was a nice callback to Thor 1 when Thor did the same thing

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those blue soldier outfits looked kinda dorky. remind me of some Power Rangers type of stuff. lol

KogaSteelfang posted...

getting ragdoll'd around... by normal humans even.

Assuming the people on the train were normal humans. We have seen alien species who can match Asgardians and even Frost Giants physically.

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008Zulu posted...

Assuming the people on the train were normal humans. We have seen alien species who can match Asgardians and even Frost Giants physically.

I meant that guy that Sylvie enslaved last episode that was throwing him around like nothing.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

I meant that guy that Sylvie enslaved last episode that was throwing him around like nothing.

Enchantress might have augmented his strength with her own.

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Shablagoo posted...

Are we even sure there are Timekeepers

And if there are, maybe theyre variants too

I am operating under the assumption that the time keepers are Kang, or at least one of them.

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I don't even think there's one timeline anymore and iirc, it was kind of implied by Miss Minutes that the Time Keepers still have tons of branches closer to the end of time they're closing.

I don't even think there's any Time Keepers. Either they're dead, taken over, or maybe never even existed. The fact that Renslayer is sometimes Kang's wifey in the comics is too much. He has to be involved.

I hope it's not something stupid like the Time-Twisters or the 4th Time Keeper.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

So, Loki can just casually toss buildings with his mind now? I'm all for giving him new powers, but with that kind of power he definitely shouldn't keep getting ragdoll'd around... by normal humans even.

I came in to make this exact comment. It was driving me nuts that he was fighting normal people on their level hand to hand, and then he effortlessly tosses aside some gigantic 50-100 ton rock, and it makes me think why dont you just launch everyone out of your way?

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The Popo posted...

I came in to make this exact comment. It was driving me nuts that he was fighting normal people on their level hand to hand, and then he effortlessly tosses aside some gigantic 50-100 ton rock, and it makes me think why dont you just launch everyone out of your way?

It's just weird Marvel power-scaling. Though, they could be throwing us for a loop, assuming that theory that this entire episode was just Sylvie trying to get into Loki's head.

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Eh this episode was kinda weak. The reveals were all nice and good (although a little predictable) but I felt like it was running in circles. That last scene of them literally running around in circles was pretty bad.

Also Hiddleston kinda seems like he's phoning this one in. Needs to step it up.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

Also Hiddleston kinda seems like he's phoning this one in. Needs to step it up.

Yeah he doesn't seem like "Loki" anymore.

Whether it was in Thor 1 or Infinity War he did not act like a self insert like this guy does.

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archedsoul posted...

I don't even think there's any Time Keepers.

Have you guys not figured this out yet? The twist is that the Time Keepers are Loki.

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Loki tossing that building back might have been with time stone he swiped from the tva

Blue_Popo posted...

Loki tossing that building back might have been with time stone he swiped from the tva

I never noticed he didn't put the stone back when I watched the episode. But now I have a theory that he will use the stone to turn back time, possibly saving the planet he is on and forcing the TVA to come and "clip" that timeline. Saving him and Sylvie.

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Something that just came to mind. How is that little kid going to confuse lady loki with the Devil . Her horn crown was not close to being that big.

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Blue_Popo posted...

Loki tossing that building back might have been with time stone he swiped from the tva

Ooh, that's interesting. Completely forgot about the Time Stone thing.

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ZevLoveDOOM posted...

those blue soldier outfits looked kinda dorky. remind me of some Power Rangers type of stuff. lol

Reminded me of these dickheads:


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I've been wondering about the Time Stone myself. I looked very closely during the first episode because it looked like he took it with him. But that was the time rewind device.

When he stopped that building, I immediately thought it was the Time Stone, especially since we've never seen a feat like that from him outside his room in Thor 2. And it looked really similar to Strange's use in Hong Kong. However, both the Time Stone and his magic are green, so it's probably not. The Time Stone seems like too much of a deux ex wrt this series.

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i really don't think they're going to bring the stones back this soon. eventually, maybe, as such fundamental forces of the universe shouldn't be able to be destroyed. but not yet, and not in such a flippant manner. imo, of course.

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It did look very time rewindy, but every other use of the stone was accompanied by a magic clock thing they have to manually adjust. He just sort of flexed at the building.

Also, it does sound like he drops the stone back into the drawer, but I suppose he could have faked that.

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KogaSteelfang posted...

Also, it does sound like he drops the stone back into the drawer, but I suppose he could have faked that.

I reckon he pilfered enough to complete the set. If so, he is just playing for time so he can learn more about Sylvie. Once he learns what he wants, out comes the Tesseract.

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008Zulu posted...

I reckon he pilfered enough to complete the set. If so, he is just playing for time so he can learn more about Sylvie. Once he learns what he wants, out comes the Tesseract.

Oddly, there wasn't a single Mind Stone in that drawer.




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I find it doubtful that Loki snuck an Infinity Stone out of the TVA.

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pegusus123456 posted...

I find it doubtful that Loki snuck an Infinity Stone out of the TVA.

It's the only stone he picks up in episode 1 when he's looking at the drawer of infinity stones.

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justaguy3492 posted...

It's the only stone he picks up in episode 1 when he's looking at the drawer of infinity stones.

Okay.

I find it doubtful that Loki snuck an Infinity Stone out of the TVA.

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With all the other misdirection this show has done so far, I'm 99% sure even if he did take any stones, they wont actually work when he tries to use them.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Okay.

I find it doubtful that Loki snuck an Infinity Stone out of the TVA.

I doubt they care. They even refer to them as paper weights

They're paperweights in the TVA office. They're fully aware of what they're capable of outside and they wouldn't let a dangerous variant loose with one.
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That would be a good excuse for Dr. Strange to get it back.

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pegusus123456 posted...

They're paperweights in the TVA office. They're fully aware of what they're capable of outside and they wouldn't let a dangerous variant loose with one.

Their recent track record would suggest that they are only just barely competent at their job. Loki could have palmed away any number of things from the TVA and they wouldn't have noticed.

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Their recent track record is an outlier.

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There's no way he wouldn't just be spamming use of the Time Stone if he had one. Literally none of the episode would matter because he could just rewind the world away from the apocalypse.
And as was stated there would also be a huge green aura surrounding whatever he was using it on. But, conveniently, his telekinetic powers produce no aura. Ipso facto...

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BLAKUboy posted...

There's no way he wouldn't just be spamming use of the Time Stone if he had one. Literally none of the episode would matter because he could just rewind the world away from the apocalypse.
And as was stated there would also be a huge green aura surrounding whatever he was using it on. But, conveniently, his telekinetic powers produce no aura. Ipso facto...

He wants to know what Sylvie is up to, can't do that by constantly rewinding time.

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I mean, this entire idea is based on him moving the building, right? You have to assume a LOT when the simpler explanation is that he just telekinetically moved it.

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does he have that power though? can't remember if he used telekinesis before, thought it was illusions and misdirections

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He literally used it just last episode, and I've already mentioned he's had it at least as far back as Dark World.

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KnightofShikari posted...

does he have that power though? can't remember if he used telekinesis before, thought it was illusions and misdirections

Looks like they're acting like he had telekinesis the whole time. He grabbed something off a shelf last episode. This one just went full over the top with it.

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If this turns out to be in Lokis head as part of an enchantment then that is fucking dumb writing

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There's a very good chance that the entire train/ark sequence was an enchantment. Sure, Loki thinks he's too powerful to be enchanted, but....

UnfairRepresent posted...

If this turns out to be in Lokis head as part of an enchantment then that is fucking dumb writing

How so? They've already established that it's what Sylvie does.

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