Current Events > George Floyd was a victim but doesnt deserve a statue.

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RadiantJoyrock
06/18/21 8:39:48 PM
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pauIie posted...
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Agreed

Zikten posted...
What made George Floyd a bad person? From what I have heard he was a good man.
He broke into a pregnant woman's apartment and held a gun to her belly while she was robbed.
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Gamerguymass
06/18/21 8:53:53 PM
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Floyd may not have been the greatest guy in the world, but I would hardly put him anywhere near the level of Columbus.

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ColdOne666
06/18/21 9:01:50 PM
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Zikten posted...
What made George Floyd a bad person? From what I have heard he was a good man.

Pointing guns to the head of pregnant women while doing robberies.

You already know this though and are just pretending to be ignorant.

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Zikten
06/18/21 9:04:52 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
You already know this though and are just pretending to be ignorant.

No actually I didn't know about that. I was aware some people tried to discredit him but I wasn't aware ever of the details. I reserve judgment since I don't know if your tale is true or not
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Zikten
06/18/21 9:05:27 PM
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His girlfriend told a story about her crying in a hospital and then he approached her and asked if she would pray with him
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Flauros
06/18/21 9:06:40 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
He broke into a pregnant woman's apartment and held a gun to her belly while she was robbed.
To be fair, most of his other 9 convictions over a 20 year span were only for drug possession and theft.

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catboy
06/18/21 9:07:40 PM
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Flauros posted...
only for drug possession and theft
which is definitely petty. I'd say the aggravated robbery and home invasion is p. bad though.

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Jiek_Fafn
06/18/21 9:14:19 PM
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In this scenario, we can't exactly have an adorable old lady stage a similar situation to become the face of the movement. We got what we got. We can't just toss him out like he's Claudette Colvin.

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IShall_Run_Amok
06/18/21 9:14:32 PM
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Agreed, we should be building statues to John Brown or Lucy Parsons and the like. They're building statues of George Floyd because 'guy who got killed by a cop' is less offensive to the public than 'guy who killed slave owners' and 'woman who advocated things I would get moderated for mentioning'.

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Collat
06/18/21 9:25:44 PM
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Personally, I think the murals people have been painting get the point across better. Fits the movement much more than a statue.
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IShall_Run_Amok
06/18/21 9:34:31 PM
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Collat posted...
Personally, I think the murals people have been painting get the point across better. Fits the movement much more than a statue.
Also this.

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What_
06/18/21 9:35:29 PM
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Hot takes
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RadiantJoyrock
06/18/21 9:57:30 PM
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Collat posted...
Personally, I think the murals people have been painting get the point across better. Fits the movement much more than a statue.
Absolutely. I fucking love so many of them.

Jiek_Fafn posted...
In this scenario, we can't exactly have an adorable old lady stage a similar situation to become the face of the movement. We got what we got. We can't just toss him out like he's Claudette Colvin.
But it's not like Floyd is the only victim like this. There are a TON of victims, many of which were fantastic people.
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Tyranthraxus
06/18/21 10:09:36 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Floyd was, by all accounts, an awful person. His death was needless but celebrating him isn't much better than celebrating historical racists like Columbus.
We carved the face of slave owners into a mountain. I can give Floyd a pass on this.

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RadiantJoyrock
06/18/21 10:24:12 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
We carved the face of slave owners into a mountain. I can give Floyd a pass on this.
Come on man, don't short sell its legacy. It wasn't just that, its that we carved the conquerors of the native's land into what was considered one of the most sacred mountains.

But my idea is more that we should stop idolized bad people and ignoring their flaws because of things they did we liked. We're making progress in that regard, slowly but surely.
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Tyranthraxus
06/18/21 10:55:29 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Come on man, don't short sell its legacy. It wasn't just that, its that we carved the conquerors of the native's land into what was considered one of the most sacred mountains.

But my idea is more that we should stop idolized bad people and ignoring their flaws because of things they did we liked. We're making progress in that regard, slowly but surely.

Personally I just don't think we should have public statues of people. It's borderline idolatry.

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ScazarMeltex
06/18/21 11:04:36 PM
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RadiantJoyrock posted...
Come on man, don't short sell its legacy. It wasn't just that, its that we carved the conquerors of the native's land into what was considered one of the most sacred mountains.

But my idea is more that we should stop idolized bad people and ignoring their flaws because of things they did we liked. We're making progress in that regard, slowly but surely.
To be fair, I assumed he was talking about Stone Mountain.

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hockeybub89
06/18/21 11:09:11 PM
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How are we supposed to remember history without building a statue though? That's the only way to remember the past and learn from our mistakes, except when we build the statues specifically to rewrite the past or celebrate our mistakes.

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Tyranthraxus
06/18/21 11:10:19 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
To be fair, I assumed he was talking about Stone Mountain.
I was kinda talking about both. Though Stone Mountain isn't really a mountain. It's literally just a huge fucking stone.

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PC-Builder_Pony
06/18/21 11:10:45 PM
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Is he really getting a statue?

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RadiantJoyrock
06/19/21 12:37:33 AM
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PC-Builder_Pony posted...
Is he really getting a statue?
He already has one.
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Killmonger
06/19/21 2:04:15 AM
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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/16/instagram-posts/no-photo-doesnt-show-woman-george-floyd-allegedly-/

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Grischnak
06/19/21 2:13:39 AM
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Zikten posted...
No actually I didn't know about that. I was aware some people tried to discredit him but I wasn't aware ever of the details. I reserve judgment since I don't know if your tale is true or not

It's not a tale. It's on his record. Though the victim was wasn't pregnant at the time. Snopes talks about it and they are an extremely biased source for Floyd so they wouldn't confirm it unless it was undeniable. If he was just a small time drug dealer I could see someone making the argument "he's not a bad dude, he just did what he had to to get by when he was young" but home invasion robbery(be it against a man or a woman) is a really vile thing to do and there's really no pretending that someone that does that is a good person to me. That doesn't mean he deserved to die but he is not someone who should be admired by anyone.
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RadiantJoyrock
06/19/21 7:36:39 AM
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