Board 8 > SaveEstelle & LeonhartFour in New Houses: Legendary Edition [SELF]

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Leonhart4
06/30/21 11:29:11 AM
#151:


Well, I imagine it's better to go ahead and play the first in case you feel like playing the other later.

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pjbasis
06/30/21 12:22:41 PM
#152:


Leonhart4 posted...


Vegeta vs. 18 was pretty good.

Do you prefer seeing Vegeta do well or get punked

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Leonhart4
06/30/21 12:29:44 PM
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That's a good question. It's always kind of satisfying seeing egotistical characters get humbled a bit, but I also like Vegeta enough that I don't necessarily want him to get utterly trounced and certainly not killed or nearly killed.

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Leonhart4
06/30/21 7:23:43 PM
#154:


Dragon Ball Z Episode 136 complete!

Poor Tien. You can't do anything anymore. You deserve better than this (unlike Yamcha...!).

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pjbasis
06/30/21 7:34:01 PM
#155:


Should have had a more versatile personality like Krillin!

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Leonhart4
06/30/21 7:38:04 PM
#156:


Krillin barely fights anymore either!

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pjbasis
06/30/21 8:44:50 PM
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The Mana Sword
06/30/21 8:53:17 PM
#158:


krillin da best

tien does at least get one or two more moments before the end of the series

yamcha lol

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LordoftheMorons
06/30/21 9:07:37 PM
#159:


Oh right I can post this now

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https://i.imgur.com/cJ5k8m9.gif

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Leonhart4
06/30/21 9:09:48 PM
#160:


The Mana Sword posted...
krillin da best

tien does at least get one or two more moments before the end of the series

yamcha lol

Oh yeah, Krillin is still great. He carries a lot of the B plot stuff that happens away from the main story.

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LeonhartFour
06/30/21 10:50:35 PM
#161:


Loki Episode 4 complete!

I keep saying this every episode, but I have no clue what's going to happen next and it's great.

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Leonhart4
07/01/21 11:42:10 PM
#162:


Aw yeah I have conquered the Elite Four and Lakelord III

Suck it Erebonia

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xp1337
07/01/21 11:45:38 PM
#163:


Leonhart4 posted...
Aw yeah I have conquered the Elite Four and Lakelord III

Suck it Erebonia
what if this was the real reason (end of cs2) erebonia invaded crossbell? was it worth it? was it?

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Leonhart4
07/01/21 11:48:42 PM
#164:


We fish for the sheer joy of fishing

All other pursuits are vain

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Leonhart4
07/01/21 11:52:52 PM
#165:


Oh my word, Azure just did a "People die if they're killed" reference

Excellent

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xp1337
07/02/21 12:07:01 AM
#166:


Xbox-related Poll of the Day results always make me laugh when compared to Nintendo/Sony.

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Leonhart4
07/02/21 12:07:45 AM
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LeonhartFour
07/02/21 12:35:50 AM
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Leonhart4
07/02/21 12:54:02 PM
#169:


Well, my stepdad (I guess he's not that anymore) moved out of my mom's house yesterday. It's just kinda surreal. I may never see or talk to him again for all I know.

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pjbasis
07/02/21 6:07:40 PM
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LeonhartFour
07/02/21 6:32:43 PM
#171:


It's not that, necessarily. I just don't know what reason we'd have to get together now that he's not with my mom, since she had good reason to want a divorce.

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Leonhart4
07/03/21 12:01:02 AM
#172:


I know something's about to go down in Trails when the game warns me I won't be able to buy items, adjust equipment, or change my orbments for some time.

Here we go. I feel like we're getting to the point of uncovering Dieter Crois as the real bad guy. It's pretty obvious he's the dude who hired the Red Constellation at this point. I think I could've worked that out even without playing Cold Steel.

Also, based on that hidden sidequest with Nielsen, he's probably the guy who killed Guy, too, although I've thought that since the end of Zero anyway.

And it looks like Lloyd has figured all of that out pretty quickly, although he can't bring himself to say it aloud.

Also this is definitely building up to us having to fight Arios at some point. Hopefully it'll deliver on the hype!

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SeabassDebeste
07/03/21 12:36:48 AM
#173:


chap 2 of FDC down. got stuck a few times.
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Leonhart4
07/03/21 8:09:41 AM
#174:


Yeah, that'll happen! The trigger for the next event can be difficult to figure out sometimes.

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Leonhart4
07/03/21 11:26:58 AM
#175:


The post office apparently decided to take an early holiday because I'm missing a lot of mail today. That means I'll have to deal with it all on Tuesday, and the day after a holiday is busy enough as it is.

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xp1337
07/03/21 10:10:57 PM
#176:


F/GO: Oh no I've betrayed by F2P principles and have now spent real money and become my own antithesis. Seriously though, given I've gotten over a year of enjoyment from F/GO I don't mind giving back here and I'm only doing this because twice a year F/GO has a special banner which guarantees you get a SSR Servant but the catch is the banner only accepts paid quartz not the ones you accumulate just playing for free.

Specifically, there are two banners (they divided the pool to put Saber/Archers/Lancers in one and Riders/Casters/Assassins/Berserkers in the other) but you can only pick one and you can only roll on it once. I have chosen the latter one because it has the two support casters I'm trying to get and if a miracle comes through and they arrive this way I won't have to endure the gacha rolling for them conventionally when they arrive. Still it's only a 2/25 chance it's one of those two so it really would be a miracle.

Since it's Board 8 I wrote up a little tier list of the 25 possible results. I'll post it here and then bold what I ultimately get so we can see whether the gacha has smiled upon me or laughed.

8% of the miracle
28% of a result that makes me happy.
60% of a result I can live with on some level
32% chance of a result that makes me very sad.
4% chance of a result that confirms the gacha is sentient and cruel

The Miracle: Merlin, Skadi
Very happy!: Kama, Kiara
Good Result: King Hassan, Mysterious Heroine X Alter, Raikou
I'll accept this: Summer Altria Alter, Ivan the Terrible, Shuten-Douji, Semiraimis, Okita Alter
I already have them, but it's not the worst thing in the world: Illya, Arjuna Alter, Melt
I'm frowning: Summer Nero, Kingprotea
Gacha was a mistake: Iskander, Murasaki, Da Vinci, Celopatra, Mysterious Heroine X, Kintaka, Hijikata
I already have them, and this makes me sad: Reines

Well, well. I considered writing a note that technically more than one could appear but the odds of that were pretty low. MHXA came first then Iskander so uh... I'll take it. Like, sure, I'd probably trade the result for a single SSR in a higher tier but this was still a great result, can't complain!

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LordoftheMorons
07/03/21 10:14:55 PM
#177:


Ive been playing FFRK for the past few months and have not yet given into spending real money. My current approach in general to microtransactions is that I will allow myself to buy things if what Im getting is known, but will not buy random stuff.

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Team Rocket Elite
07/03/21 10:15:45 PM
#178:


The miracle never happen.
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xp1337
07/03/21 10:48:29 PM
#179:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Ive been playing FFRK for the past few months and have not yet given into spending real money. My current approach in general to microtransactions is that I will allow myself to buy things if what Im getting is known, but will not buy random stuff.
Yeah, in this case I'm treating the known quantity as the guaranteed 5*/SSR Servant. I have no plans to spend real money chasing the conventional gacha where I'd just be buying extra chances to hit that 0.8%/1% chance in the gacha. down that path lies madness for me.

Plus, I've enjoyed and put so many hours into the game I don't mind supporting it in this way.

Team Rocket Elite posted...
The miracle never happen.
in some ways getting 2 SSR Servants in this roll was a miracle (I don't know the exact mechanics but I assume it's roughly equivalent to hitting an SSR on a normal gacha multiroll which would be like 8% here and then the guaranteed one tagging along being its own thing)

just not the miracle i meant >_>

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The Mana Sword
07/03/21 10:55:48 PM
#180:


is this the gacha spenders anonymous topic


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LeonhartFour
07/04/21 12:32:49 AM
#181:


Trails to Azure Chapter 4 complete!

I'll be honest. I didn't dig the way some of that stuff played out. Maybe I'll come around on it once the full story is in place, but I don't like the turn some of these characters took. That being said, there was a lot of cool stuff that happened, too, like seeing the Aions in action and seeing them take out the railway cannons at Garrelia Fortress.

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xp1337
07/04/21 12:37:17 AM
#182:


Azure/CS1 spoilers: I think it's neat seeing exactly how the events went down reveal that the reports you hear in CS1 from Rean's point of view are wrong, almost certainly part of Osborne/the Intelligence Division's propaganda. In CS1 you hear it told that the Aion attacked out of nowhere basically but in Azure you see that Erebonia was literally firing the railway cannons and it was more of a retaliatory strike.

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Mac Arrowny
07/04/21 1:02:45 AM
#183:


LeonhartFour posted...
I'll be honest. I didn't dig the way some of that stuff played out. Maybe I'll come around on it once the full story is in place, but I don't like the turn some of these characters took.

How do you mean? I feel like I was pretty annoyed at Lloyd in this section, if that's what you're talking about.

xp1337 posted...

Since it's Board 8 I wrote up a little tier list of the 25 possible results. I'll post it here and then bold what I ultimately get so we can see whether the gacha has smiled upon me or laughed.

8% of the miracle
28% of a result that makes me happy.
60% of a result I can live with on some level
32% chance of a result that makes me very sad.
4% chance of a result that confirms the gacha is sentient and cruel

The Miracle: Merlin, Skadi
Very happy!: Kama, Kiara
Good Result: King Hassan, Mysterious Heroine X Alter, Raikou
I'll accept this: Summer Altria Alter, Ivan the Terrible, Shuten-Douji, Semiraimis, Okita Alter
I already have them, but it's not the worst thing in the world: Illya, Arjuna Alter, Melt
I'm frowning: Summer Nero, Kingprotea
Gacha was a mistake: Iskander, Murasaki, Da Vinci, Celopatra, Mysterious Heroine X, Kintaka, Hijikata
I already have them, and this makes me sad: Reines

Well, well. I considered writing a note that technically more than one could appear but the odds of that were pretty low. MHXA came first then Iskander so uh... I'll take it. Like, sure, I'd probably trade the result for a single SSR in a higher tier but this was still a great result, can't complain!


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/278706978220408833/861109825744273438/unknown.png

There's a spreadsheet I used for this. Got Demon King Nobunaga, so solid result. Ridervinci in two rolls too.
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xp1337
07/04/21 1:15:50 AM
#184:


Mac Arrowny posted...
There's a spreadsheet I used for this. Got Demon King Nobunaga, so solid result. Ridervinci in two rolls too.
Congrats! Glad that neither of us got trolled. I threw a couple of tickets at Ridervinci but got nothing, but I'm okay with that.

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LeonhartFour
07/04/21 3:45:00 AM
#185:


xp1337 posted...
Azure/CS1 spoilers: I think it's neat seeing exactly how the events went down reveal that the reports you hear in CS1 from Rean's point of view are wrong, almost certainly part of Osborne/the Intelligence Division's propaganda. In CS1 you hear it told that the Aion attacked out of nowhere basically but in Azure you see that Erebonia was literally firing the railway cannons and it was more of a retaliatory strike.

Yeah, it's obvious pretty early on that the Imperial Chronicle is a propaganda machine, and I appreciate that the series portrays it that way.

Mac Arrowny posted...
How do you mean? I feel like I was pretty annoyed at Lloyd in this section, if that's what you're talking about.

Lloyd? No, he seemed pretty much the same as always. I'm talking about Noel, who's like "yeah I know all this is wrong but I have to arrest you anyway" like her time with the SSS literally didn't happen. I get that this is meant to reflect the "barrier" that many of them have tried to get over and can't (namely, the compromise of overlooking all the bad stuff that happens in and around Crossbell as long as it means Crossbell can continue to exist as it is, which is one of the things President Crois actually nailed in this chapter really well even as simultaneously he is now the cause of all the bad stuff), but c'mon man, you haven't even been gone a full day yet.

And then I always hate the trope of the bad guys manipulating the innocent child into doing bad stuff for them under the pretense of "oh don't worry this will let you protect the people you love" like they did with KeA. Like, brainwashing or "awakening a dormant personality within" would almost seem more believable than KeA willingly going along with this. I get that they've been foreshadowing this since the Mishelam chapter, but still.

And I guess this last one is "we'll wait and see how it turns out" with Arios. He confesses to murdering Guy and cooperating with the Crois family for years, but in Cold Steel, he still has the reputation of "awesome hero guy," even among the SSS (if I'm remembering right), which is why this sudden heel turn is really confusing me. I expect he'll make a last minute face turn to help save the day or it'll be revealed that he was just lying about killing Guy, but there's this weird disconnect for me. Perhaps it's just the result of having already beaten all the Cold Steel games and having a general sense of all that happens without knowing the specific details yet. Like, the idea of the national hero being a cold-blooded killer on the big bad's payroll is an awesome plot twist on paper (because even from my perspective, I didn't see that coming at all), but if he just gets off scot-free like Alan Richard in Sky basically does because he promises to be good from now on, it'll be a bit disappointing.

I don't know. Perhaps I'm being a bit too harsh. All of that stuff at the end of the chapter is awesome on paper, but it just left me feeling a little unsatisfied.

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Mac Arrowny
07/04/21 11:25:01 AM
#186:


Oh yeah, I felt the exact opposite of you on all that. Noel, KeA, and Arios all making the best choices for Crossbell, with Lloyd being a villainous traitor. My opinion of him went way down here.
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ctesjbuvf
07/04/21 11:31:09 AM
#187:


I managed to get a PS5 finally! Very lucky, they're still not up for sale anywhere.

I didn't know it came with Astro's Playroom pre-installed and I had no idea what that game actually was, but it was an incredibly nice 3-4 hour ride of fanservice. I really liked it.

I have Rift Apart as it came with the console and I ordered FFVIIR Intergrade right away so I can play the new DLC.

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Leonhart4
07/04/21 11:33:49 AM
#188:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Oh yeah, I felt the exact opposite of you on all that. Noel, KeA, and Arios all making the best choices for Crossbell, with Lloyd being a villainous traitor. My opinion of him went way down here.

Huh, okay. I can't even relate to that viewpoint even a little, but then again, I'm pretty anti-pragmatism and so is Lloyd. Crois tries to come across that way, but he's just making a nakedly obvious power grab.

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pyresword
07/04/21 12:12:46 PM
#189:


There's a bit you don't know about some of the characters which is evident in some of the comments you made, but at the same time I'm not sure any of that information will change your overall view. (To be clear, I mean things that happen later on--I'm not saying you missed anything)

One thing I will say is that I do believe Dieter is being genuine in basically all of his conversations. Not sure if you were implying otherwise but I definitely don't think he's lying about his own beliefs and ideals just for the sake of a power grab. I think he believes he needs power in order to realize his ideals.
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Leonhart4
07/04/21 12:41:04 PM
#190:


pyresword posted...
There's a bit you don't know about some of the characters which is evident in some of the comments you made, but at the same time I'm not sure any of that information will change your overall view. (To be clear, I mean things that happen later on--I'm not saying you missed anything)

One thing I will say is that I do believe Dieter is being genuine in basically all of his conversations. Not sure if you were implying otherwise but I definitely don't think he's lying about his own beliefs and ideals just for the sake of a power grab. I think he believes he needs power in order to realize his ideals

Yeah, like I said, I might be being too harsh in the moment and stuff that comes up later might make me revise my opinion. I'm coming at this from the perspective of someone who already has a general sense of how this goes without knowing all the specifics.

And I believe Crois believes what he's saying, and I believe he thinks he's doing what's best for Crossbell's long-term prosperity. He definitely has different motivations than Mariabell. He also deliberately baited Erebonia and Calvard into invading Crossbell so he could make a public example of them and deceived his own citizens in order to provide the grounds to declare himself president. His intentions are good, but I don't agree with his methods.

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Mac Arrowny
07/04/21 1:03:18 PM
#191:


To be fair, Erebonia definitely would've invaded Crossbell if he'd declared independence without inciting an invasion. It was deceptive, but I think it was a fair strategy as well.

ctesjbuvf posted...
I managed to get a PS5 finally! Very lucky, they're still not up for sale anywhere.

I didn't know it came with Astro's Playroom pre-installed and I had no idea what that game actually was, but it was an incredibly nice 3-4 hour ride of fanservice. I really liked it.

I have Rift Apart as it came with the console and I ordered FFVIIR Intergrade right away so I can play the new DLC.


Nice. Astro's is really great, yeah. Basically a few hours of pure fun. It's cool having a system with a good pack-in game in this day and age.

Been playing Rift Apart too, and am very close to finishing it. Fun game! I've only played the original trilogy for other Ratchet games, but I think I like this better than I liked any of those. The setpieces are real nice, and it's incredibly smooth in general (other than some annoyingly programmed level boundaries. Jumping onto a platform and instantly dying because you're not supposed to go there is lame).
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LeonhartFour
07/04/21 6:05:50 PM
#192:


I thought I might read ahead in the Attack on Titan manga since Crunchyroll has the final arc up on their site, but my wife caught me and forbade me from doing so, whoops.

So now I've decided to read the Kaguya-sama manga instead. Finished the first volume. It's pretty similar to the anime so far, although it had a couple of stories that weren't in the show.

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Leonhart4
07/04/21 7:26:38 PM
#193:


Trails to Azure Fragments complete! Wasn't expecting that to be so short!

Getting to team up with Garcia was pretty cool. Then Zeit finally gets to have his moment, complete with Lloyd's great line, "How is your timing always so good?!" I knew about him being a Holy Beast from Cold Steel, but it's also not surprising at all. I'm pretty sure they called him a Divine Wolf when he was first introduced.

I also knew about the disappearance of the Sept-Terrion of Mirage, but we got some backstory on why it happened. Apparently, Demiourgos was TOO empathetic and couldn't handle the possibility of having to eliminate problematic individuals to preserve the well-being of the people as a whole. Of course, no one learned from its disappearance and only cared about finding something to replace it. Trails is pretty good when it comes to portraying the foibles of human nature through the Sept-Terrions. Also, it'd be nice if they'd ever explain how the Great Collapse actually happened...!

They also mention Demiourgos was basically divinity given a human-like form to compensate for the fact that Aidios has no physical form and can't relate to humanity (which would not bode well for the idea that Aidios is the Grandmaster...!). The parallels to Jesus Christ here are pretty obvious.

Then it's the return of Kevin and the reveal that Wazy is a Dominion with Abbas as his knight. We get to travel Crossbell on the Merkabah, and the barrier around the city itself has been erected. I didn't realize Lloyd had been in prison for a few weeks already, so we've crossed into the Cold Steel II timeline. I guess we'll be seeing the Azure Tree soon.

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Mac Arrowny
07/04/21 8:02:29 PM
#194:


Zeit rules.

Did they show what Demiourgos looks like?
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Leonhart4
07/04/21 8:13:49 PM
#195:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Zeit rules.

Did they show what Demiourgos looks like?

They had a couple of sketches, yeah.

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Mac Arrowny
07/04/21 8:17:51 PM
#196:


She resembles the Grandmaster fairly heavily.
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Leonhart4
07/04/21 8:26:01 PM
#197:


Mac Arrowny posted...
She resembles the Grandmaster fairly heavily.

Yeah, I can see that. I don't think that explanation would really jive with why Demiourgos disappeared though.

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SeabassDebeste
07/04/21 9:09:35 PM
#198:


LeonhartFour posted...
I thought I might read ahead in the Attack on Titan manga since Crunchyroll has the final arc up on their site, but my wife caught me and forbade me from doing so, whoops.

smh

my fiancee hated the last anime season so much i don't think she'd mind if i read ahead now
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Leonhart4
07/04/21 9:14:48 PM
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Huh, why did she hate it so much?

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xp1337
07/04/21 10:05:28 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
So now I've decided to read the Kaguya-sama manga instead. Finished the first volume. It's pretty similar to the anime so far, although it had a couple of stories that weren't in the show.
IIRC there's like 10 chapters not covered in the first season. I think it's about the same for the second as well. Otherwise it's a very faithful adaptation.

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