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Looking back, it's rather annoying how TTYD only had 7 partners compared to the first game's 8, and Ms. Mowz is optional

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Goombella was my favorite, actually.

Stealth bump.

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Bobbery

Goombella and Vivian are not far behind though.

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Vivian would be my second choice.

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yoshi.

That eat & spit move is very effective, especially on high def. He had a pretty cool personality too, tough little freshly hatched bastard!

Yoshi. I liked him as a character, as well as the koncept of him randomly hatching n becoming a member of the gang. Don't remember what he was like in battle but I vaguely feel like he had something good going. Plus faster movement when you ride him.

Shoot, I don't remember if mine was red or green.

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Bobbery is badass

Vivian and Yoshi behind him

Goombella and Koops are cool too, Koops is great in battle

Mowz and Flurries are useless


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I liked Mowz as an NPC but she never really clicked as a party member and her moveset sucked

Could've put a different NPC in the optional mystery partner slot

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i want a grown up watt to come back, like "hi mister mario, remember me?" and she's some sick electric badass

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Kinda surprised Vivian is ahead. Anyone wanna talk about their thoughts?

Vivian is the best for combat. Goombella is my personal favourite though. Out of all the partners she seems like the main one and has the best dialogue and the most through tattle)

Flurry is easily the worst and I dont understand her fan base. Literally just thiccc

Vivian
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Yoshi is my favorite, followed by Vivian

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Combat:

Vivian > Goombella > Bobbery > Yoshi Kid > Koops > Flurrie > Ms.Mowz

Overall:

Vivian > Goombella > Yoshi Kid > Ms.Mowz > The rest > Flurrie.

Flurrie is almost immediately useless, and is lame as fuck.

Goombella is best character. Bobbery is easily the best in combat, though, unless you want to abuse Vivians shield move against a boss.

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BroodRyu posted...

Kinda surprised Vivian is ahead. Anyone wanna talk about their thoughts?

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I am the only person in the world who really likes Ms. Mowz

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Vivian

Used her the most in combat.

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radical rhino posted...

Goombella is best character. Bobbery is easily the best in combat, though, unless you want to abuse Vivians shield move against a boss.

Bobbery is good under speedrun conditions, but if you're actually fighting all the battles and thus have a ton of BP, he only has 1:1 attack scaling on everything except his time bombs (a pretty situational move, though still good) which also can't hit everything. He also is a pretty big tax on your FP if you want to use his AoE.

Stampede has the best scaling in the game for an AoE, Multibonk/Ground Pound (depending on what multibonk gets capped at) have the best for single target. If you're running stacked Mega Rush P + Quick Change then Bobbery won't get much use. There is also Rally Wink to think about which can kind of just be way better than all other partner moves in certain builds.

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BroodRyu posted...

Kinda surprised Vivian is ahead. Anyone wanna talk about their thoughts?

She's arguably the best partner in combat and she most certainly has the most interesting storyline. There's also the fun little tidbit about her being trans.
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the_rowan posted...

Multibonk/Ground Pound (depending on what multibonk gets capped at) have the best for single target.

I've never really rated Ground Pound or Stampede tbh. If an enemy has even a single point of defense, they do nothing.

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pegusus123456 posted...

I've never really rated Ground Pound or Stampede tbh. If an enemy has even a single point of defense, they do nothing.

If your build is terrible and has +0 attack, this is true.

I would generally recommend never considering a build with +0 attack again, though.

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you guys should check out a channel called Koop on youtube. he does tons of paper mario challenge runs and shows off mods and partner strats, it's great

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the_rowan posted...

If your build is terrible and has +0 attack, this is true.

I would generally recommend never considering a build with +0 attack again, though.

Oh, that's fair enough lol. I think I'm basing that on when I played it as a kid and my build presumably was terrible.

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pegusus123456 posted...

Oh, that's fair enough lol. I think I'm basing that on when I played it as a kid and my build presumably was terrible.

We were almost all there once, yeah. My first playthrough used Vivian very heavily because Fiery Jinx is really really good out of the box. Actually, Fiery Jinx is still really good no matter what because it's the first access to full-screen AoE you get, and it's not too expensive for the cost. The only downside it has is that some enemies are immune to fire.

Nowadays, though, I understand how to pick up the Mega Rush P in chapter 1, buy Quick Change ASAP, and by level 4 or 5 I have a badge setup going that has a partner with +5 attack much of the time. Once you can buy Point Swaps in chapter 3, they start to work as a nice way to refill your FP while setting a partner to 1 HP easily.

Even without the fiddlyness of Mega Rush P, just putting on the Power Plus P badge from chapter 3 eventually becomes pretty feasible even if it's expensive, although it's better for Goombella than lot of the time since it's +2 to her damage while it's +1 for everyone else's basic attack. Yoshi will still hit for a minimum of 1 per hit if the first hit does at least 1 damage, though, and if you get up to big attack numbers (e.g. Power Lift + other boosts stacked) then eventually every point of attack is +6 damage for him. A +20 attack Yoshi hits Bonetail (2 defense) for 99 damage, for example, although you can do all sorts of nutty stuff like that if you allow badge stealing or game corner badges.

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the_rowan posted...

We were almost all there once, yeah. My first playthrough used Vivian very heavily because Fiery Jinx is really really good out of the box. Actually, Fiery Jinx is still really good no matter what because it's the first access to full-screen AoE you get, and it's not too expensive for the cost. The only downside it has is that some enemies are immune to fire.

Nowadays, though, I understand how to pick up the Mega Rush P in chapter 1, buy Quick Change ASAP, and by level 4 or 5 I have a badge setup going that has a partner with +5 attack much of the time. Once you can buy Point Swaps in chapter 3, they start to work as a nice way to refill your FP while setting a partner to 1 HP easily.

Even without the fiddlyness of Mega Rush P, just putting on the Power Plus P badge from chapter 3 eventually becomes pretty feasible even if it's expensive, although it's better for Goombella than lot of the time since it's +2 to her damage while it's +1 for everyone else's basic attack. Yoshi will still hit for a minimum of 1 per hit if the first hit does at least 1 damage, though, and if you get up to big attack numbers (e.g. Power Lift + other boosts stacked) then eventually every point of attack is +6 damage for him. A +20 attack Yoshi hits Bonetail (2 defense) for 99 damage, for example, although you can do all sorts of nutty stuff like that if you allow badge stealing or game corner badges.

I wish the game was difficult enough to need any of this. I think you can beat the game dropping every point into HP. I know as a dumb kid thats how I beat paper Mario 64

Bobbery, with Yoshi and Vivian close behind.

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Tom Clark posted...

Bobbery, with Yoshi and Vivian close behind.

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