Current Events > Vanessa Carlton defends rap sample: Songs about white violence aren't questioned

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Lebronwon 06/10/21 12:51:07 AM #1:	https://uproxx.com/pop/vanessa-carlton-rappers-thousand-miles-racial-double-standard/ Back in late March, rappers Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon teamed up on a track called Who I Smoke, which samples Vanessa Carltons classic A Thousand Miles. The track is full of violent lyrics, which apparently upset some of Carltons fans. Now Carlton has responded with a co-sign of the track and some points about race. Carlton tweeted recently, To the white folks that have expressed anger/shock over my approval of A Thousand Miles usage in the Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, & FastMoney Goon song Who I Smoke, I invite you to ask yourself why you feel this way & then read this. The tweet includes a link to a 2016 academic paper titled Share Cropping Blackness: White Supremacy and the Hyper-Consumption of Black Popular Culture. In a follow-up tweet, she continued, Popular songs accompanied by white violence or tales of white violence arent questioned. Its considered visceral or cinematic. Here we have [Stuck In The Middle With You] playing while a guy gets his ear cut off. Reservoir Dogs As some commenters have pointed out, however, theres a significant difference between Reservoir Dogs and Who I Smoke, as the latter names a number of rappers and other individuals who were actually killed. As one user put it, The difference is one is Hollywood, and one is real life. I mean dont get me wrong, the song is gas! But also remember, theres multiple dead kids being dissed on in that song and I bet their parents are haunted with this beat. --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:954834382] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>https://uproxx.com/pop/vanessa-carlton-rappers-thousand-miles-racial-double-standard/ Back in late March, rappers Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon teamed up on a track called Who I Smoke, which samples Vanessa Carltons classic A Thousand Miles. The track is full of violent lyrics, which apparently upset some of Carltons fans. Now Carlton has responded with a co-sign of the track and some points about race. Carlton tweeted recently, To the white folks that have expressed anger/shock over my approval of A Thousand Miles usage in the Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, & FastMoney Goon song Who I Smoke, I invite you to ask yourself why you feel this way & then read this. The tweet includes a link to a 2016 academic paper titled Share Cropping Blackness: White Supremacy and the Hyper-Consumption of Black Popular Culture. In a follow-up tweet, she continued, Popular songs accompanied by white violence or tales of white violence arent questioned. Its considered visceral or cinematic. Here we have [Stuck In The Middle With You] playing while a guy gets his ear cut off. Reservoir Dogs As some commenters have pointed out, however, theres a significant difference between Reservoir Dogs and Who I Smoke, as the latter names a number of rappers and other individuals who were actually killed. As one user put it, The difference is one is Hollywood, and one is real life. I mean dont get me wrong, the song is gas! But also remember, theres multiple dead kids being dissed on in that song and I bet their parents are haunted with this beat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FightingJester 06/10/21 12:52:55 AM #2:	My killer make his face go. Thats one thing about Ksoo. --- Perhaps the world is not made. Perhaps nothing is made. A clock without a craftsman. It's too late. Always has been. Always will be. Too late <cite>FightingJester posted [p:954834418] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>My killer make his face go. Thats one thing about Ksoo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShyOx 06/10/21 12:55:33 AM #3:	what the fuck --- http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6938/vyqp.jpg DIPLOMACY <cite>ShyOx posted [p:954834478] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>what the fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I4NRulez 06/10/21 12:56:27 AM #4:	Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake --- The night brims with defiled scum,and is permeated by their rotten stench. Just think. Now you're all set to hunt and kill to your heart's content. <cite>I4NRulez posted [p:954834496] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 06/10/21 12:57:03 AM #5:	I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:954834513] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 06/10/21 1:40:16 AM #6:	I4NRulez posted... Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake shes definitely aware, just didnt feel it was relevant to her decision --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:954835330] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake</quote> shes definitely aware, just didnt feel it was relevant to her decision </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lorenzo_2003 06/10/21 1:45:24 AM #7:	Vanessa Carlton. Vanessa Carlton is defending violent racism? What the fuck? --- ... <cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted [p:954835436] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Vanessa Carlton. Vanessa Carlton is defending violent racism? What the fuck? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Graycap 06/10/21 1:46:48 AM #8:	lol Must be happy about being relevant again. --- Say it on your main. <cite>Graycap posted [p:954835467] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>lol Must be happy about being relevant again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ApherosyLove 06/10/21 1:48:25 AM #9:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tesr1OyymXo Can't wait till she defends this masterpiece. --- I, Apherosy, Goddess of Love. https://imgur.com/YTIL81T <cite>ApherosyLove posted [p:954835501] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tesr1OyymXo Can't wait till she defends this masterpiece. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kingjeremy 06/10/21 2:42:28 AM #10:	The linked video from that video is just bizarre to me. It is British guy giving a complete rundown of the gangs involved. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DyIO3B5EFpM <cite>kingjeremy posted [p:954836405] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>The linked video from that video is just bizarre to me. It is British guy giving a complete rundown of the gangs involved. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DyIO3B5EFpM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 06/10/21 2:52:09 AM #11:	ApherosyLove posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tesr1OyymXo Can't wait till she defends this masterpiece. I'll defend that song. Shit was hilarious. As for the song from the topic at hand. I can't not, for the life of me, comprehend how this newer generation can't fucking flow to a beat. The Migos flow was way too samey but at least they rode to the beat. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:954836557] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>ApherosyLove posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tesr1OyymXo Can't wait till she defends this masterpiece.</quote> I'll defend that song. Shit was hilarious. As for the song from the topic at hand. I can't not, for the life of me, comprehend how this newer generation can't fucking flow to a beat. The Migos flow was way too samey but at least they rode to the beat. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/10/21 2:56:50 AM #12:	Song is fucking evil Lorenzo_2003 posted... Vanessa Carlton is defending violent racism? No, she's defending a song about real violent gang violence --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:954836626] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Song is fucking evil Lorenzo_2003 posted... </cite> <quote>Vanessa Carlton is defending violent racism?</quote> No, she's defending a song about real violent gang violence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 2:58:09 AM #13:	Wait, how is this about racism? Just to be clear, she's saying that some of the people complaining wouldn't, and haven't complained about someone like Johnny Cash killing a,'Man in Reno,' just to watch him die, right? This, I believe is true. There are plenty of Country songs about murder and violence. Nobody says anything about that, but when a rapper comes along, then all of the sudden those same people are up in arms However, I do think it's a different story when you're talking about real people, and not just a made up person in Reno. But rap has a lot of this, talking about your real OPs being killed and celebrating it Honmo shot me, three weeks later he got shot down. Now it's clear that I'm here for a reaon reason 'Caus he got hit like I got hit, but he ain't fuckin' breathin' So here we are with another non-issue news story to make people argue over --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954836641] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Wait, how is this about racism? Just to be clear, she's saying that some of the people complaining wouldn't, and haven't complained about someone like Johnny Cash killing a,'Man in Reno,' just to watch him die, right? This, I believe is true. There are plenty of Country songs about murder and violence. Nobody says anything about that, but when a rapper comes along, then all of the sudden those same people are up in arms However, I do think it's a different story when you're talking about real people, and not just a made up person in Reno. But rap has a lot of this, talking about your real OPs being killed and celebrating it Honmo shot me, three weeks later he got shot down. Now it's clear that I'm here for a reaon reason 'Caus he got hit like I got hit, but he ain't fuckin' breathin' So here we are with another non-issue news story to make people argue over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 3:00:40 AM #14:	Kastrada posted... As for the song from the topic at hand. I can't not, for the life of me, comprehend how this newer generation can't fucking flow to a beat. The Migos flow was way too samey but at least they rode to the beat. https://youtu.be/hClUzdGJbpc --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954836682] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote> As for the song from the topic at hand. I can't not, for the life of me, comprehend how this newer generation can't fucking flow to a beat. The Migos flow was way too samey but at least they rode to the beat.</quote> https://youtu.be/hClUzdGJbpc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 06/10/21 3:00:53 AM #15:	Violent black songs aren't accepted or celebrated in our white supremacist society. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:954836687] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Violent black songs aren't accepted or celebrated in our white supremacist society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 3:09:21 AM #16:	https://youtu.be/Aq344ks1ieg https://youtu.be/1iNw5jXN2HA --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954836820] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/Aq344ks1ieg https://youtu.be/1iNw5jXN2HA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShineboxPhil 06/10/21 3:20:17 AM #17:	if any of you guys don't want to watch that 1 hour video explaining this current rap beef, here's a more streamlined version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCN4-NgM3T8 reason for the beef, childish immature bullshit --- https://imgur.com/gallery/SGyTfGm https://imgur.com/gallery/9mJroQV <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:954836977] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>if any of you guys don't want to watch that 1 hour video explaining this current rap beef, here's a more streamlined version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCN4-NgM3T8 reason for the beef, childish immature bullshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
awesome999 06/10/21 3:22:01 AM #18:	Lebronwon posted... rappers Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon Lmao --- Love is a lie guys, there's no such thing, might as well be a soulless hedonist. Why yes, I do get a kick out of being a smug smartass. <cite>awesome999 posted [p:954836995] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted...</cite> <quote>rappers Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon</quote> Lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/10/21 3:28:20 AM #19:	this is actually pretty good wtf lol --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954837071] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>this is actually pretty good wtf lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 3:33:12 AM #20:	Ryuko_Chan posted... this is actually pretty good wtf lol Which was your favorite part? --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954837150] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Ryuko_Chan posted... </cite> <quote>this is actually pretty good wtf lol</quote> Which was your favorite part? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/10/21 3:38:22 AM #21:	Bad_Mojo posted... Which was your favorite part? honestly its fucked up but when theyre calling out the dead guys names i feel so guilty but it just bangs. either that or the chubbyish guy in the black shirts verse --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954837230] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite> <quote>Which was your favorite part?</quote>honestly its fucked up but when theyre calling out the dead guys names i feel so guilty but it just bangs. either that or the chubbyish guy in the black shirts verse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShineboxPhil 06/10/21 3:42:07 AM #22:	i wonder if these lyrics could be used against them if any evidence gets found and they get indicted? could be reckless on their part. but i'm sure they're more worried about any retaliation from their opps. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/SGyTfGm https://imgur.com/gallery/9mJroQV <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:954837275] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>i wonder if these lyrics could be used against them if any evidence gets found and they get indicted? could be reckless on their part. but i'm sure they're more worried about any retaliation from their opps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 06/10/21 4:08:05 AM #23:	here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:954837576] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShineboxPhil 06/10/21 4:12:27 AM #24:	g0ldie posted... here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc both yungeen ace and foolio are going to be the next king von and fbg duck if they're not careful. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/SGyTfGm https://imgur.com/gallery/9mJroQV <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:954837632] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc</quote> both yungeen ace and foolio are going to be the next king von and fbg duck if they're not careful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 4:14:33 AM #25:	So they too will become infamous? I don't think they care, tbh, but today is my first time knowing about them --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954837656] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>So they too will become infamous? I don't think they care, tbh, but today is my first time knowing about them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/10/21 4:14:48 AM #26:	g0ldie posted... here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc holy shit lmao wtf also this sounds so good lol i feel bad for listening to it "happy birthday 23 blow your candles out" YEESH --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954837660] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc</quote>holy shit lmao wtf also this sounds so good lol i feel bad for listening to it "happy birthday 23 blow your candles out" YEESH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/10/21 4:15:43 AM #27:	Bad_Mojo posted... So they too will become infamous? I don't think they care, tbh, but today is my first time knowing about them king von and fbg duck are dead --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954837674] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Bad_Mojo posted... </cite> <quote>So they too will become infamous? I don't think they care, tbh, but today is my first time knowing about them</quote>king von and fbg duck are dead </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH is the game 06/10/21 4:24:43 AM #28:	this is a weird take because rappers gets away with SO MUCH MORE than any white artists would get away with. If a white artist did this it would be condemned much harder. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH is the game posted [p:954837774] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>this is a weird take because rappers gets away with SO MUCH MORE than any white artists would get away with. If a white artist did this it would be condemned much harder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 06/10/21 4:26:47 AM #29:	I've watched some videos on these guys, and idk if they'll ever make peace. one of the guys in the first video, Yungeen Ace, was with his brother and two friends, celebrating one of their birthday's, and a car pulled up and started shooting, killing three of them, with Yungeen Ace being the only survivor. the video I posted goes over the shooting and Yungeen Ace believes that the guy who made the video is one of the shooters, iirc. on the other side, the guy from the video I posted, his enemies have shot both his mom and ex-girlfriend (from what I've heard), but they survived, and the reason why he made the response song was because the guys from the OP mocked Bibby, who was like his younger brother, and one of their friend's is believed to be the killer. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:954837799] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I've watched some videos on these guys, and idk if they'll ever make peace. one of the guys in the first video, Yungeen Ace, was with his brother and two friends, celebrating one of their birthday's, and a car pulled up and started shooting, killing three of them, with Yungeen Ace being the only survivor. the video I posted goes over the shooting and Yungeen Ace believes that the guy who made the video is one of the shooters, iirc. on the other side, the guy from the video I posted, his enemies have shot both his mom and ex-girlfriend (from what I've heard), but they survived, and the reason why he made the response song was because the guys from the OP mocked Bibby, who was like his younger brother, and one of their friend's is believed to be the killer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 4:26:57 AM #30:	Ryuko_Chan posted... king von and fbg duck are dead And now people talk about them more than they did when they were alive - infamous, imo. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954837800] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Ryuko_Chan posted... </cite> <quote>king von and fbg duck are dead</quote> And now people talk about them more than they did when they were alive - infamous, imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 06/10/21 4:47:45 AM #31:	Lebronwon posted... Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon Is this a language? --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:954838049] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted... </cite> <quote>Spinabenz, Whoppa Wit Da Choppa, Yungeen Ace, and FastMoney Goon</quote>Is this a language? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 4:50:24 AM #32:	DeadBankerDream posted... Is this a language? No different than a good chunk of user names on here Spin a Benz Whoppa has a chopper Young Ace A goon with fast money --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954838079] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>Is this a language?</quote> No different than a good chunk of user names on here Spin a Benz Whoppa has a chopper Young Ace A goon with fast money </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 06/10/21 7:33:08 AM #33:	g0ldie posted... here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc That rapper actually did a remix of the same song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOj0blZMVxM --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:954839918] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>here's a response to the video in the OP (dude is an enemy of those rappers), btw, which is even more messed up, IMO. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJqu246RVlc</quote> That rapper actually did a remix of the same song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOj0blZMVxM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 06/10/21 8:56:24 AM #34:	I'm kinda glad murder rap is being reverse engineered by 90s-00s pop songs it is catchy as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bsarB7WsA --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:954841403] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I'm kinda glad murder rap is being reverse engineered by 90s-00s pop songs it is catchy as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bsarB7WsA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lebronwon 06/10/21 9:00:27 AM #35:	BlueTigerLion posted... I'm kinda glad murder rap is being reverse engineered by 90s-00s pop songs it is catchy as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bsarB7WsA Unlike Vanessa Carlton in OP Mariah Carrey is going to sue them though: https://twitter.com/MariahCarey/status/1391011028167712769 --- Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7 <cite>Lebronwon posted [p:954841483] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>BlueTigerLion posted... </cite> <quote>I'm kinda glad murder rap is being reverse engineered by 90s-00s pop songs it is catchy as hell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bsarB7WsA</quote> Unlike Vanessa Carlton in OP Mariah Carrey is going to sue them though: https://twitter.com/MariahCarey/status/1391011028167712769 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Veggeta X 06/10/21 9:01:06 AM #36:	Vanessa Carlton has openly admitted to being a blind SJW person for years now. Not surprised. --- Don't like it? Don't watch it. It's that simple Dictator of Nice Guys <cite>Veggeta X posted [p:954841493] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Vanessa Carlton has openly admitted to being a blind SJW person for years now. Not surprised. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 06/10/21 9:12:54 AM #37:	I4NRulez posted... Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake This. She's right with her intention if she didn't know about that, which it's pretty obvious she didn't. Why would we expect her to? I definitely see that double standard where white people hear any talk about what happens in the hoid as glorifying it, while they see any white violence as artistic expression. It gets super obvious when someone talks about how they don't like rap because of these things and turn around and say "I like Eminem tho". Which is why people mock those types so much. Cause it's so damn obvious they just don't give a black man the same benefit of the doubt that they give the white guy. They see one as being malicious and the other as being artistic, when the former is usually not even as indulgent as Eminem. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:954841756] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I4NRulez posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, the commentators are kinda right. Those dudes are rapping about kids that actually got shot and murdered. She's probably not aware of that but its not some fabricated hip hop beef like Meek and Drake</quote> This. She's right with her intention if she didn't know about that, which it's pretty obvious she didn't. Why would we expect her to? I definitely see that double standard where white people hear any talk about what happens in the hoid as glorifying it, while they see any white violence as artistic expression. It gets super obvious when someone talks about how they don't like rap because of these things and turn around and say "I like Eminem tho". Which is why people mock those types so much. Cause it's so damn obvious they just don't give a black man the same benefit of the doubt that they give the white guy. They see one as being malicious and the other as being artistic, when the former is usually not even as indulgent as Eminem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/10/21 11:22:57 AM #38:	Lost_All_Senses posted... I definitely see that double standard where white people hear any talk about what happens in the hoid as glorifying it, while they see any white violence as artistic expression. Yep, I agree with this. But I also agree with this - HHH is the game posted... this is a weird take because rappers gets away with SO MUCH MORE than any white artists would get away with. If a white artist did this it would be condemned much harder. This is true as well - Most rap artists get away with say really horrible things, but this is because these people expect worse from certain people than they do others, which shows how racist they are in a way. Final thought - I don't mind them mocking their OPs deaths, I do mind what might come of this if people start letting bullets fly and it hits an innocent victim --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954845063] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>I definitely see that double standard where white people hear any talk about what happens in the hoid as glorifying it, while they see any white violence as artistic expression.</quote> Yep, I agree with this. But I also agree with this - HHH is the game posted... </cite> <quote>this is a weird take because rappers gets away with SO MUCH MORE than any white artists would get away with. If a white artist did this it would be condemned much harder.</quote> This is true as well - Most rap artists get away with say really horrible things, but this is because these people expect worse from certain people than they do others, which shows how racist they are in a way. Final thought - I don't mind them mocking their OPs deaths, I do mind what might come of this if people start letting bullets fly and it hits an innocent victim </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 06/10/21 3:36:34 PM #39:	Lebronwon posted... That rapper actually did a remix of the same song oh yea, but iirc he made When I See You his official response, and the Who I Smoke remix was more of an Instagram thing --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:954853412] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Lebronwon posted... </cite> <quote>That rapper actually did a remix of the same song</quote>oh yea, but iirc he made When I See You his official response, and the Who I Smoke remix was more of an Instagram thing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bad_Mojo 06/11/21 1:32:48 AM #40:	I'm going to start up the History video someone posted in here about this whole gang war, and I'm going to listen to it while I play Crusader Kings 3, since it seems fitting. --- https://i.imgtc.com/hQ5SuG6.gif https://i.imgtc.com/QrhAq36.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Yjov9DU.gif <cite>Bad_Mojo posted [p:954872719] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I'm going to start up the History video someone posted in here about this whole gang war, and I'm going to listen to it while I play Crusader Kings 3, since it seems fitting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 06/11/21 1:42:24 AM #41:	g0ldie posted... I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 If they killed people why arent they all in jail? Isnt it fake <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:954872895] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>g0ldie posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 </quote> If they killed people why arent they all in jail? Isnt it fake</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 06/11/21 1:48:53 AM #42:	Makin my way downtown --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:954872994] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Makin my way downtown </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 06/11/21 2:25:06 AM #43:	UndefeatedGOAT posted... If they killed people why arent they all in jail? Isnt it fake unfortunately, a lot of murders go unsolved. even with songs like these, the details can be common knowledge in the communities the killings took place, so idk if they're enough to arrest the killers with. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 <cite>g0ldie posted [p:954873556] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>UndefeatedGOAT posted... </cite> <quote>If they killed people why arent they all in jail? Isnt it fake</quote>unfortunately, a lot of murders go unsolved. even with songs like these, the details can be common knowledge in the communities the killings took place, so idk if they're enough to arrest the killers with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ryuko_Chan 06/11/21 3:36:28 AM #44:	its so fire --- - silverhyruler post <cite>Ryuko_Chan posted [p:954874617] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>its so fire </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocileOrangeCup 06/12/21 5:52:32 AM #46:	Gangs are fuckin dumb --- https://imgur.com/kHnd6lr https://imgur.com/uG042id https://imgur.com/tIfDfZH https://imgur.com/xhtRl8w https://imgur.com/ggQozRe https://tinyurl.com/Corn-420 <cite>DocileOrangeCup posted [p:954912409] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Gangs are fuckin dumb </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 06/12/21 7:10:33 AM #47:	I uh dont think she understands what she co-signed --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:954913233] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>I uh dont think she understands what she co-signed </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 06/12/21 7:13:18 AM #48:	g0ldie posted... I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4 still one of the greatest rap songs and videos of the year! lmao <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:954913260] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote> g0ldie posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, that song (the one that sampled hers) literally had the rappers mocking their dead opps (likely people they've killed themselves) and naming them https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YFfGgeddAc4</quote> still one of the greatest rap songs and videos of the year! lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WashYourHands 06/12/21 7:22:41 AM #49:	Their parents will either be attending a funeral or trial in the future --- 20 seconds is all it takes! <cite>WashYourHands posted [p:954913365] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Their parents will either be attending a funeral or trial in the future </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 06/12/21 7:25:15 AM #50:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Why would we expect her to? Idk man you can kind of pick up on the vibe this is real shit very early, and its only a 2 minute track. At the very least her team shouldve looked up who theyre saying they smoked like I get her point, but its very performative when they didnt take the like 5 minutes to understand this doesnt really fall in line with that --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:954913390] in Vanessa Ca... [t:79504534]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Why would we expect her to?</quote>Idk man you can kind of pick up on the vibe this is real shit very early, and its only a 2 minute track. At the very least her team shouldve looked up who theyre saying they smoked like I get her point, but its very performative when they didnt take the like 5 minutes to understand this doesnt really fall in line with that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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