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COVxy 06/09/21 8:29:48 PM #102:	The mental health industry is plagued with all sorts of pseudoscientific practitioners because there's lax regulation. I care about this a lot. It's fucked up to swindle the mentally unwell. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954827604] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>The mental health industry is plagued with all sorts of pseudoscientific practitioners because there's lax regulation. I care about this a lot. It's fucked up to swindle the mentally unwell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokison 06/09/21 8:31:37 PM #103:	Badmotorfinger posted... Nah it's just Biscotti acting like a child From my point of view, the other one instigated it. Biscotti was actually rather calm through out. That's just my opinion though. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. <cite>Lokison posted [p:954827657] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Nah it's just Biscotti acting like a child</quote>From my point of view, the other one instigated it. Biscotti was actually rather calm through out. That's just my opinion though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:32:06 PM #104:	COVxy posted... The mental health industry is plagued with all sorts of pseudoscientific practitioners because there's lax regulation. I care about this a lot. It's fucked up to swindle the mentally unwell. that's quite the leap there. i'm fully regulated and accountable. i adhere to the available evidence-base in everything i do. i take nothing on intution or supposition. shit, i said i was out! --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954827683] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>The mental health industry is plagued with all sorts of pseudoscientific practitioners because there's lax regulation. I care about this a lot. It's fucked up to swindle the mentally unwell.</quote> that's quite the leap there. i'm fully regulated and accountable. i adhere to the available evidence-base in everything i do. i take nothing on intution or supposition. shit, i said i was out! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gurifisu 06/09/21 8:33:09 PM #105:	@Personafans @FireEmblemfans --- Enter the baller zone: http://error1355.com/ce/Gurifisu.html <cite>Gurifisu posted [p:954827713] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>@Personafans @FireEmblemfans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/09/21 8:34:06 PM #106:	Biscotti posted... i'm fully regulated and accountable. i adhere to the available evidence-base in everything i do. i take nothing on intution or supposition. Produce the citation then. And admit that your illness vs disorder thing was completely adhoc and not any type of real distinction. Simple as that. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954827751] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>i'm fully regulated and accountable. i adhere to the available evidence-base in everything i do. i take nothing on intution or supposition.</quote> Produce the citation then. And admit that your illness vs disorder thing was completely adhoc and not any type of real distinction. Simple as that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:37:19 PM #107:	COVxy posted... Produce the citation then. And admit that your illness vs disorder thing was completely adhoc and not any type of real distinction. Simple as that. it was a very simple way to explain the difference between treatability vs not treatable, , to a lay audience on an internet forum. i'm not here to quote every sub-set of the DSM-IV (or V), or the ICD-10. if you want to attempt to treat psychopaths and peadophiles, go ahead. i wish you luck; everyone else has failed. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954827853] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Produce the citation then. And admit that your illness vs disorder thing was completely adhoc and not any type of real distinction. Simple as that.</quote> it was a very simple way to explain the difference between treatability vs not treatable, , to a lay audience on an internet forum. i'm not here to quote every sub-set of the DSM-IV (or V), or the ICD-10. if you want to attempt to treat psychopaths and peadophiles, go ahead. i wish you luck; everyone else has failed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/09/21 8:39:36 PM #108:	Based on what Do you have any data supporting the idea that pedophiles are untreatable? You don't. And so little of them even attempt to get help because of how powerful the stigma is This is why it's dangerous for people this airheaded to be working in mental health <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954827921] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Based on what Do you have any data supporting the idea that pedophiles are untreatable? You don't. And so little of them even attempt to get help because of how powerful the stigma is This is why it's dangerous for people this airheaded to be working in mental health</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:40:32 PM #109:	Badmotorfinger posted... Based on what Do you have any data supporting the idea that pedophiles are untreatable? You don't. And so little of them even attempt to get help because of how powerful the stigma is This is why it's dangerous for people this airheaded to be working in mental health and your job is what? very first google hit: 'General. There is no evidence that pedophilia can be cured. Instead, most therapies focus on helping the pedophile refrain from acting on their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they result in a long-term change in sexual preference.' it's not rocket science folks. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954827950] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Based on what Do you have any data supporting the idea that pedophiles are untreatable? You don't. And so little of them even attempt to get help because of how powerful the stigma is This is why it's dangerous for people this airheaded to be working in mental health</quote> and your job is what? very first google hit: 'General. There is no evidence that pedophilia can be cured. Instead, most therapies focus on helping the pedophile refrain from acting on their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they result in a long-term change in sexual preference.' it's not rocket science folks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/09/21 8:40:58 PM #110:	Okay, so you agree that the distinction was bullshit, good. Now, where's that evidence that pedophiles are more likely to offend after treatment? Given you don't do anything non evidence-based, I assume there's some paper that you can reference that's looked at this. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954827959] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Okay, so you agree that the distinction was bullshit, good. Now, where's that evidence that pedophiles are more likely to offend after treatment? Given you don't do anything non evidence-based, I assume there's some paper that you can reference that's looked at this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:43:26 PM #111:	COVxy posted... Okay, so you agree that the distinction was bullshit, good. Now, where's that evidence that pedophiles are more likely to offend after treatment? Given you don't do anything non evidence-based, I assume there's some paper that you can reference that's looked at this. would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation? --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954828031] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Okay, so you agree that the distinction was bullshit, good. Now, where's that evidence that pedophiles are more likely to offend after treatment? Given you don't do anything non evidence-based, I assume there's some paper that you can reference that's looked at this.</quote> would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 06/09/21 8:43:43 PM #112:	Covxys posts reminds me of the well ackhcualllly guy about the distinction thing, but Im also genuinely curious to see the evidence for pedos being more likely to offend after therapy --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:954828039] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Covxys posts reminds me of the well ackhcualllly guy about the distinction thing, but Im also genuinely curious to see the evidence for pedos being more likely to offend after therapy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/09/21 8:44:45 PM #113:	Biscotti posted... and your job is what? very first google hit: 'General. There is no evidence that pedophilia can be cured. Instead, most therapies focus on helping the pedophile refrain from acting on their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they result in a long-term change in sexual preference.' it's not rocket science folks. Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know. <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954828058] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted...</cite> <quote> and your job is what? very first google hit: 'General. There is no evidence that pedophilia can be cured. Instead, most therapies focus on helping the pedophile refrain from acting on their desires. Some therapies do attempt to cure pedophilia, but there are no studies showing that they result in a long-term change in sexual preference.' it's not rocket science folks. </quote> Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 06/09/21 8:44:58 PM #114:	Biscotti posted... would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation? nah bro do it here, other people are curious outside of the pissing contest yall having --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:954828068] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation?</quote> nah bro do it here, other people are curious outside of the pissing contest yall having </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 06/09/21 8:45:12 PM #115:	We have a schwa problem --- Posted with GameRaven 3.6.0_B3 <cite>Starks posted [p:954828076] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>We have a schwa problem</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/09/21 8:46:12 PM #116:	This isn't about "curing", it's about getting people help so they don't offend. Their inherent attraction to children is still going to exist. What's important is that they don't act on it and harm people, or consume harmful media like CP The fact that you couldn't pick up on that and thought this was about magically curing an illness really speaks volumes about you. Maddendude already got exposed lying about being a doctor so it wouldn't surprise me if we had another one. <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954828104] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>This isn't about "curing", it's about getting people help so they don't offend. Their inherent attraction to children is still going to exist. What's important is that they don't act on it and harm people, or consume harmful media like CP The fact that you couldn't pick up on that and thought this was about magically curing an illness really speaks volumes about you. Maddendude already got exposed lying about being a doctor so it wouldn't surprise me if we had another one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokison 06/09/21 8:46:57 PM #117:	Anyone else want some --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. <cite>Lokison posted [p:954828123] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Anyone else want some </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/09/21 8:51:19 PM #118:	Biscotti posted... would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation? I don't see what needs to be accomplished through DMs. I'm just looking for a single citation to back the evidence based conclusion that pedophiles are more likely to offend after recieving treatment. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954828230] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>would you prefer to take this to DMs? or counter with your miracle cure citation?</quote> I don't see what needs to be accomplished through DMs. I'm just looking for a single citation to back the evidence based conclusion that pedophiles are more likely to offend after recieving treatment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:52:35 PM #119:	Badmotorfinger posted... Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know. Badmotorfinger posted... Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know. i help people manage those conditions, and sometims the results can be life-changing; even the best evidence base for depression has a halo effect for around 24-months, which is not often made well known, but there it is. even then, you have to hold onto your successes in this field, because there will be plenty of heart-break too (i've had 3 colleagues commit suicide). you and covy have yet to state what you do for a living btw. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954828252] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know.</quote> Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Lol. Now I feel like I'm talking to a teenager No illness can be cured. Tell me, how many people have you "cured" of depression? Or schizophrenia? Or bipolar disorder I'm dying to know.</quote> i help people manage those conditions, and sometims the results can be life-changing; even the best evidence base for depression has a halo effect for around 24-months, which is not often made well known, but there it is. even then, you have to hold onto your successes in this field, because there will be plenty of heart-break too (i've had 3 colleagues commit suicide). you and covy have yet to state what you do for a living btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spidey5 06/09/21 8:53:15 PM #120:	Gurifisu posted... Did you enjoy getting warned the last time you posted something like this? --- https://imgur.com/zh4paKb https://imgur.com/WtO7O7X https://imgur.com/ooXBgp4 https://imgur.com/sQvZ0cK https://imgur.com/AQJUXon <cite>Spidey5 posted [p:954828269] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Gurifisu posted...</cite> Did you enjoy getting warned the last time you posted something like this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/09/21 8:58:54 PM #121:	Biscotti posted... you and covy have yet to state what you do for a living btw. Don't need to. We have several people here working in healthcare that show that they know what they're talking about through discourse like DarkRoast without having to tell you what their occupation is You made a baseless and legitimately dangerous statement and you're unwilling to cite it. Just going "bUt I wOrKeD iN mEnTaL hEaLtH fOr 24 YeArS" isn't the shield you think it is. <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954828390] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted...</cite> <quote>you and covy have yet to state what you do for a living btw.</quote> Don't need to. We have several people here working in healthcare that show that they know what they're talking about through discourse like DarkRoast without having to tell you what their occupation is You made a baseless and legitimately dangerous statement and you're unwilling to cite it. Just going "bUt I wOrKeD iN mEnTaL hEaLtH fOr 24 YeArS" isn't the shield you think it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 8:59:36 PM #122:	COVxy posted... I don't see what needs to be accomplished through DMs. I'm just looking for a single citation to back the evidence based conclusion that pedophiles are more likely to offend after recieving treatment. you and i both know there is not a 'single citation'; here is a decent article about how mental health professionals can get pulled in by psychopaths and sex offenders; https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/oak-ridge-st-thomas-psychiatric-treatment group treatment was started in the 1970s, and follow-up revealed higher rates of offending. i might try to dig out the exact study but it's 1.55am in my timezone. but this was a surprise to early therapists and researchers, just as 'expresed emotion' was to treatments of schizophrenia in family settings. this is what an evidence-base is, reviewing what we know, and sometimes this goes against what we might expect. therapists want to do good; it's a shock when a given clinical population throw that back. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954828412] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>I don't see what needs to be accomplished through DMs. I'm just looking for a single citation to back the evidence based conclusion that pedophiles are more likely to offend after recieving treatment.</quote> you and i both know there is not a 'single citation'; here is a decent article about how mental health professionals can get pulled in by psychopaths and sex offenders; https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/oak-ridge-st-thomas-psychiatric-treatment group treatment was started in the 1970s, and follow-up revealed higher rates of offending. i might try to dig out the exact study but it's 1.55am in my timezone. but this was a surprise to early therapists and researchers, just as 'expresed emotion' was to treatments of schizophrenia in family settings. this is what an evidence-base is, reviewing what we know, and sometimes this goes against what we might expect. therapists want to do good; it's a shock when a given clinical population throw that back. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 9:00:06 PM #123:	Badmotorfinger posted... Don't need to. We have several people here working in healthcare that show that they know what they're talking about through discourse like DarkRoast without having to tell you what their occupation is You made a baseless and legitimately dangerous statement and you're unwilling to cite it. Just going "bUt I wOrKeD iN mEnTaL hEaLtH fOr 24 YeArS" isn't the shield you think it is. whatever. i'm not dangerous; sex offenders are. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954828427] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Don't need to. We have several people here working in healthcare that show that they know what they're talking about through discourse like DarkRoast without having to tell you what their occupation is You made a baseless and legitimately dangerous statement and you're unwilling to cite it. Just going "bUt I wOrKeD iN mEnTaL hEaLtH fOr 24 YeArS" isn't the shield you think it is.</quote> whatever. i'm not dangerous; sex offenders are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/09/21 9:16:21 PM #124:	Biscotti posted... you and i both know there is not a 'single citation' Yes, if you are making evidence based claims, there must be a study that drew that conclusion. If you don't have a study that drew that conclusion, you are not making evidence based claims. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954828840] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>you and i both know there is not a 'single citation'</quote> Yes, if you are making evidence based claims, there must be a study that drew that conclusion. If you don't have a study that drew that conclusion, you are not making evidence based claims. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 9:24:00 PM #125:	COVxy posted... Yes, if you are making evidence based claims, there must be a study that drew that conclusion. If you don't have a study that drew that conclusion, you are not making evidence based claims. how about this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/088626099014012001 'Consistent with findings in other areas of clinical practice, it was predicted that good treatment behavior (in terms of in-session behavior, homework quality, and global ratings of motivation and change achieved) would be associated with parole success and lower recidivism in a sample of 283 sex offenders. *This prediction was not supported*: Good treatment behavior was unrelated to parole failure or general recidivism, and *it was associated with higher serious recidivism (a new violent or sexual offense) after an average time at risk of 32 months*. Further exploration revealed that men who scored higher in psychopathy and better in treatment behavior were the most likely to reoffend. These results could have important implications for risk management and treatment planning. if you want to split hairs about psychopaths, rapists, and peadophiles, go ahead. i've now linked one general summary article, and one scholarly. your turn. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954829077] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>Yes, if you are making evidence based claims, there must be a study that drew that conclusion. If you don't have a study that drew that conclusion, you are not making evidence based claims.</quote> how about this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/088626099014012001 'Consistent with findings in other areas of clinical practice, it was predicted that good treatment behavior (in terms of in-session behavior, homework quality, and global ratings of motivation and change achieved) would be associated with parole success and lower recidivism in a sample of 283 sex offenders. This prediction was not supported: Good treatment behavior was unrelated to parole failure or general recidivism, and it was associated with higher serious recidivism (a new violent or sexual offense) after an average time at risk of 32 months. Further exploration revealed that men who scored higher in psychopathy and better in treatment behavior were the most likely to reoffend. These results could have important implications for risk management and treatment planning. if you want to split hairs about psychopaths, rapists, and peadophiles, go ahead. i've now linked one general summary article, and one scholarly. your turn. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 06/09/21 9:26:51 PM #126:	$10 says he will find someway to criticize why thats not a valid study or doesnt reference what youre talking about --- Each night, when I go to sleep, I die. <cite>David1988 posted [p:954829148] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>$10 says he will find someway to criticize why thats not a valid study or doesnt reference what youre talking about </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/09/21 9:27:39 PM #127:	David1988 posted... $10 says he will find someway to criticize why thats not a valid study or doesnt reference what youre talking about of course. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954829166] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>David1988 posted... </cite> <quote>$10 says he will find someway to criticize why thats not a valid study or doesnt reference what youre talking about</quote> of course. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 06/09/21 11:14:43 PM #128:	Biscotti posted... how about this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/088626099014012001 'Consistent with findings in other areas of clinical practice, it was predicted that good treatment behavior (in terms of in-session behavior, homework quality, and global ratings of motivation and change achieved) would be associated with parole success and lower recidivism in a sample of 283 sex offenders. *This prediction was not supported*: Good treatment behavior was unrelated to parole failure or general recidivism, and *it was associated with higher serious recidivism (a new violent or sexual offense) after an average time at risk of 32 months*. Further exploration revealed that men who scored higher in psychopathy and better in treatment behavior were the most likely to reoffend. These results could have important implications for risk management and treatment planning. if you want to split hairs about psychopaths, rapists, and peadophiles, go ahead. i've now linked one general summary article, and one scholarly. your turn. This article does not, and cannot by its design, say that treatment led to higher recidivism. All it really says is that people high on psychopathy measures might be able to game psychiatrists into believing they are doing better, which is surprising to no one. If you look at Table 2 this point is clear, those who are high in psychopathy show more recidivism when their percieved treatment change is positive. Those who are low on psychopathy show pretty much no difference between high and low treatment effects. Most likely this just means that those who are planning to reoffend try to game the system to make it seem like they've gotten better. However, it's unclear how the overall group's recidivism is different compared to those who got no treatment at all because this wasn't measured. More-or-less, this doesn't support your point. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:954832157] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>how about this one: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/088626099014012001 'Consistent with findings in other areas of clinical practice, it was predicted that good treatment behavior (in terms of in-session behavior, homework quality, and global ratings of motivation and change achieved) would be associated with parole success and lower recidivism in a sample of 283 sex offenders. This prediction was not supported: Good treatment behavior was unrelated to parole failure or general recidivism, and it was associated with higher serious recidivism (a new violent or sexual offense) after an average time at risk of 32 months. Further exploration revealed that men who scored higher in psychopathy and better in treatment behavior were the most likely to reoffend. These results could have important implications for risk management and treatment planning. if you want to split hairs about psychopaths, rapists, and peadophiles, go ahead. i've now linked one general summary article, and one scholarly. your turn.</quote> This article does not, and cannot by its design, say that treatment led to higher recidivism. All it really says is that people high on psychopathy measures might be able to game psychiatrists into believing they are doing better, which is surprising to no one. If you look at Table 2 this point is clear, those who are high in psychopathy show more recidivism when their percieved treatment change is positive. Those who are low on psychopathy show pretty much no difference between high and low treatment effects. Most likely this just means that those who are planning to reoffend try to game the system to make it seem like they've gotten better. However, it's unclear how the overall group's recidivism is different compared to those who got no treatment at all because this wasn't measured. More-or-less, this doesn't support your point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice 06/09/21 11:31:12 PM #129:	Hey, where did the tc go? <cite>trappedunderice posted [p:954832616] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Hey, where did the tc go? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldious 06/10/21 12:57:12 AM #130:	This topic didn't turn out how I thought it would. catboy posted... Also they are using the new Samsung mascot as their avatar. I fail to see why this is an issue. Biscotti posted... offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate. I would also like to see proof for this since I find it unlikely. But I agree that it can't be cured, but you shouldn't see everyone who likes children as rapists. trappedunderice posted... Hey, where did the tc go? Hello. --- The endless are possibilities. <cite>Emeraldious posted [p:954834517] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>This topic didn't turn out how I thought it would. catboy posted... </cite> <quote>Also they are using the new Samsung mascot as their avatar.</quote> I fail to see why this is an issue. Biscotti posted... </cite> <quote>offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate.</quote> I would also like to see proof for this since I find it unlikely. But I agree that it can't be cured, but you shouldn't see everyone who likes children as rapists. trappedunderice posted... </cite> <quote>Hey, where did the tc go?</quote> Hello. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deoxxys 06/10/21 1:34:03 AM #132:	So wait what is the argument about anyway? Are people attracted to teens and does that constitute as pedophilia? Pedophilia is supposed to be attraction to anyone who has not reached sexual maturity yet, which is gross. But it seems nowadays that pedophilia constitutes anyone who hasnt reached age eighteen, which is determined by government not biology. As much as it may gross some out, sexual attraction begins with teenagers. Thats why (even though hollywood convinced you otherwise) the age of consent in most 1st world countries is set at age sixteen, dont believe me, check for yourself. Thats also why the "teen" is among the most popular porn categories. Piper Perri, Lola Fae, Dakota Skye, Dolly Little, the list goes on. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:954835229] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>So wait what is the argument about anyway? Are people attracted to teens and does that constitute as pedophilia? Pedophilia is supposed to be attraction to anyone who has not reached sexual maturity yet, which is gross. But it seems nowadays that pedophilia constitutes anyone who hasnt reached age eighteen, which is determined by government not biology. As much as it may gross some out, sexual attraction begins with teenagers. Thats why (even though hollywood convinced you otherwise) the age of consent in most 1st world countries is set at age sixteen, dont believe me, check for yourself. Thats also why the "teen" is among the most popular porn categories. Piper Perri, Lola Fae, Dakota Skye, Dolly Little, the list goes on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ShineboxPhil 06/10/21 1:50:06 AM #134:	not bad. i clicked Ctrl F and typed "deleted" and only got 1 result in 3 pages of this thread. maybe there is some hope for CE posters. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/SGyTfGm https://imgur.com/gallery/9mJroQV <cite>ShineboxPhil posted [p:954835530] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>not bad. i clicked Ctrl F and typed "deleted" and only got 1 result in 3 pages of this thread. maybe there is some hope for CE posters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 06/10/21 1:52:05 AM #135:	A Gerudo problem?! --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:954835563] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>A Gerudo problem?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 06/10/21 1:54:39 AM #137:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/573081-hellhole/79454947 According to 3 different moderators in this thread I just linked, you can't say there's any Nazis on this website because by their logic it means you're calling other users Nazis even if it's not got any degree of specificity whatsoever. As calling another user a pedo is flaming, I'd assume the same argument from mods would apply. To acknowledge there's a problem would require acknowledging that there's users on this site who are... As such, I literally can not say if there's a problem or not as doing so might require I violate the TOS by indirectly calling other users a bad name. And as we've seen time and time again, even if someone is a self admitted something or other, it's against the rules to call them that. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:954835616] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/573081-hellhole/79454947 According to 3 different moderators in this thread I just linked, you can't say there's any Nazis on this website because by their logic it means you're calling other users Nazis even if it's not got any degree of specificity whatsoever. As calling another user a pedo is flaming, I'd assume the same argument from mods would apply. To acknowledge there's a problem would require acknowledging that there's users on this site who are... As such, I literally can not say if there's a problem or not as doing so might require I violate the TOS by indirectly calling other users a bad name. And as we've seen time and time again, even if someone is a self admitted something or other, it's against the rules to call them that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 06/10/21 2:00:09 AM #138:	Yes. If I have to tag people as pedophiles in order to know who to avoid interacting with, this site has a fucking problem. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:954835715] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Yes. If I have to tag people as pedophiles in order to know who to avoid interacting with, this site has a fucking problem. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Graycap 06/10/21 2:07:27 AM #139:	Scotty_Rogers posted... There is a cure; think for yourself instead of buying into what other people say. Truth is, everything is logically pointless; there are no absolutes. Life only has meaning because we give it meaning. Everything in society is ultimately just a construct. What is the actual, objective difference between a man and a woman? Or a child and an adult? Or a human and an animal? Or law and crime? Think logically, and you'll find plenty of gray areas, overlaps and anomalies in any code. No one is logically more correct than anyone else. It's all logically arbitrary. So, really, if you want to stop being this or that, just tell yourself you're not it, condition yourself to think so and you'll be good. Applies to anything, really; just think whatever you want, and you can certainly do so while following society's arbitrary rules. sounds sus tbh fam --- Say it on your main. <cite>Graycap posted [p:954835820] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted...</cite> <quote> There is a cure; think for yourself instead of buying into what other people say. Truth is, everything is logically pointless; there are no absolutes. Life only has meaning because we give it meaning. Everything in society is ultimately just a construct. What is the actual, objective difference between a man and a woman? Or a child and an adult? Or a human and an animal? Or law and crime? Think logically, and you'll find plenty of gray areas, overlaps and anomalies in any code. No one is logically more correct than anyone else. It's all logically arbitrary. So, really, if you want to stop being this or that, just tell yourself you're not it, condition yourself to think so and you'll be good. Applies to anything, really; just think whatever you want, and you can certainly do so while following society's arbitrary rules.</quote> sounds sus tbh fam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldious 06/10/21 2:57:33 AM #140:	DocDelicious posted... Yes. If I have to tag people as pedophiles in order to know who to avoid interacting with, this site has a fucking problem. Why not just ignore them? --- The endless are possibilities. <cite>Emeraldious posted [p:954836631] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>Yes. If I have to tag people as pedophiles in order to know who to avoid interacting with, this site has a fucking problem.</quote> Why not just ignore them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DocDelicious 06/10/21 3:38:57 AM #141:	Emeraldious posted... Why not just ignore them? Because this site is already dead enough without removing even more posts. I've only ever blocked/ignored one user. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. <cite>DocDelicious posted [p:954837235] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldious posted... </cite> <quote>Why not just ignore them?</quote> Because this site is already dead enough without removing even more posts. I've only ever blocked/ignored one user. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/10/21 2:35:44 PM #142:	COVxy posted... This article does not, and cannot by its design, say that treatment led to higher recidivism. All it really says is that people high on psychopathy measures might be able to game psychiatrists into believing they are doing better, which is surprising to no one. If you look at Table 2 this point is clear, those who are high in psychopathy show more recidivism when their percieved treatment change is positive. Those who are low on psychopathy show pretty much no difference between high and low treatment effects. Most likely this just means that those who are planning to reoffend try to game the system to make it seem like they've gotten better. However, it's unclear how the overall group's recidivism is different compared to those who got no treatment at all because this wasn't measured. More-or-less, this doesn't support your point. Lol and just like that you never saw those two again <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954851328] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted...</cite> <quote> This article does not, and cannot by its design, say that treatment led to higher recidivism. All it really says is that people high on psychopathy measures might be able to game psychiatrists into believing they are doing better, which is surprising to no one. If you look at Table 2 this point is clear, those who are high in psychopathy show more recidivism when their percieved treatment change is positive. Those who are low on psychopathy show pretty much no difference between high and low treatment effects. Most likely this just means that those who are planning to reoffend try to game the system to make it seem like they've gotten better. However, it's unclear how the overall group's recidivism is different compared to those who got no treatment at all because this wasn't measured. More-or-less, this doesn't support your point. </quote> Lol and just like that you never saw those two again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokison 06/10/21 2:41:01 PM #143:	Why on midgard is this topic still around? @Error1355 purge this shit. It's gotten disturbing. Please, I beg of you. --- Word from the wise: Don't run in the shower. <cite>Lokison posted [p:954851496] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Why on midgard is this topic still around? @Error1355 purge this shit. It's gotten disturbing. Please, I beg of you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 06/10/21 2:42:38 PM #144:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Why do people always assume everyone cares about the difference? You should get the maximum punishment either way, so it doesn't fuckin matter Whats the maximum sentence for feeling attraction to children and not acting on it? >_> --- " Adesanya's stiff tissue" https://files.catbox.moe/gqwlkg.jpeg ~ by JimCarrysToe. Be amaze. <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:954851551] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote> Why do people always assume everyone cares about the difference? You should get the maximum punishment either way, so it doesn't fuckin matter</quote> Whats the maximum sentence for feeling attraction to children and not acting on it? >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/10/21 2:42:56 PM #145:	Badmotorfinger posted... Lol and just like that you never saw those two again no, i'm just done passing my term papers and credentials to a couple of guys on the internet. especially when one of them is an alt. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954851559] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Lol and just like that you never saw those two again</quote> no, i'm just done passing my term papers and credentials to a couple of guys on the internet. especially when one of them is an alt. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/10/21 2:59:29 PM #146:	Nobody cares about your "term papers and credentials" lmao. You are living proof (entertaining the possibility that you're not lying) that you can work in healthcare and have no idea what you're talking about. There's no shortage of people like you in the industry. The tactic of using your occupation as a shield only works on idiots like Kazi1212/David1988 who don't really have anything to offer or contribute in any topic anyway <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954852072] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Nobody cares about your "term papers and credentials" lmao. You are living proof (entertaining the possibility that you're not lying) that you can work in healthcare and have no idea what you're talking about. There's no shortage of people like you in the industry. The tactic of using your occupation as a shield only works on idiots like Kazi1212/David1988 who don't really have anything to offer or contribute in any topic anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/10/21 3:01:53 PM #147:	Badmotorfinger posted... Nobody cares about your "term papers and credentials" lmao. You are living proof (entertaining the possibility that you're not lying) that you can work in healthcare and have no idea what you're talking about. There's no shortage of people like you in the industry. The tactic of using your occupation as a shield only works on idiots like Kazi1212/David1988 who don't really have anything to offer or contribute in any topic anyway i have no idea who those people are, or who your main account is. i've been attacked in this thread, personally and professionally. it's simply not worth it for peed apologists. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954852141] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Badmotorfinger posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody cares about your "term papers and credentials" lmao. You are living proof (entertaining the possibility that you're not lying) that you can work in healthcare and have no idea what you're talking about. There's no shortage of people like you in the industry. The tactic of using your occupation as a shield only works on idiots like Kazi1212/David1988 who don't really have anything to offer or contribute in any topic anyway</quote> i have no idea who those people are, or who your main account is. i've been attacked in this thread, personally and professionally. it's simply not worth it for peed apologists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldious 06/10/21 3:02:49 PM #148:	DocDelicious posted... Because this site is already dead enough without removing even more posts. I've only ever blocked/ignored one user. I see. Lokison posted... Why on midgard is this topic still around? @Error1355 purge this shit. It's gotten disturbing. Please, I beg of you. When did it get disturbing? CanuckCowboy posted... Whats the maximum sentence for feeling attraction to children and not acting on it? >_> Lifelong I would presume. Just not in jail. --- The endless are possibilities. <cite>Emeraldious posted [p:954852173] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>Because this site is already dead enough without removing even more posts. I've only ever blocked/ignored one user.</quote> I see. Lokison posted... </cite> <quote>Why on midgard is this topic still around? @Error1355 purge this shit. It's gotten disturbing. Please, I beg of you.</quote> When did it get disturbing? CanuckCowboy posted... </cite> <quote>Whats the maximum sentence for feeling attraction to children and not acting on it? >_></quote> Lifelong I would presume. Just not in jail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Badmotorfinger 06/10/21 3:03:28 PM #149:	Why wouldn't you be attacked tho You're literally arguing against pedophiles getting help so they can offend less and less children will be harmed. How do you not see how absolutely fucking moronic that makes you look <cite>Badmotorfinger posted [p:954852196] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Why wouldn't you be attacked tho You're literally arguing against pedophiles getting help so they can offend less and less children will be harmed. How do you not see how absolutely fucking moronic that makes you look</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emeraldious 06/10/21 3:05:42 PM #150:	Did he ever answer why paedos getting help makes them more likely to continue offending? --- The endless are possibilities. <cite>Emeraldious posted [p:954852263] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Did he ever answer why paedos getting help makes them more likely to continue offending? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biscotti 06/10/21 3:14:58 PM #151:	Emeraldious posted... Did he ever answer why paedos getting help makes them more likely to continue offending? yes. but, as i said, i'm not here to argue the treatment of peeds on gfaqs, over and over again. the aplogists have not presented one single piece of counter-evidence that active treatment interventions prevent offending. not one. and these are two dudes on the internet; for all i know they are in a pro-peed discord together, i have no idea, but i've worked alongside LEOs in public protection etc, though i have not treated sex offenders (due to many reasons stated). i have better uses of my time right now, than this; i have never been interested in 'winning' an internet argument. you can make your own mind up. --- 'He's Back. He posted in the minge thread'. <cite>Biscotti posted [p:954852556] in Does this ... [t:79503630]...</cite> <quote>Emeraldious posted... </cite> <quote>Did he ever answer why paedos getting help makes them more likely to continue offending?</quote> yes. but, as i said, i'm not here to argue the treatment of peeds on gfaqs, over and over again. the aplogists have not presented one single piece of counter-evidence that active treatment interventions prevent offending. not one. and these are two dudes on the internet; for all i know they are in a pro-peed discord together, i have no idea, but i've worked alongside LEOs in public protection etc, though i have not treated sex offenders (due to many reasons stated). i have better uses of my time right now, than this; i have never been interested in 'winning' an internet argument. you can make your own mind up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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