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Emeraldious
06/09/21 2:35:47 PM
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I see many users complaining about it and insinuating it.

Is it only exaggerated? Seems unlikely so many would flock here specifically.

Just people trolling, perhaps?

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Crono99
06/09/21 2:37:52 PM
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I think this website has a problem of people interpreting things too much.

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jon1012
06/09/21 2:38:13 PM
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I don't think so.

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Questionmarktarius
06/09/21 2:39:36 PM
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This is relevant, I think...

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JimmyFraska
06/09/21 2:40:01 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is relevant, I think...
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Questionmarktarius
06/09/21 2:40:48 PM
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JimmyFraska posted...
dont
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Lost_All_Senses
06/09/21 2:41:05 PM
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There's at least 1 and that's a problem.

Mostly just creeps that skert the line tho. Ones that would fuck a younger age if it was legal. So, it's more so they're not because they don't want to get in trouble for it, more than any moral reason.

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R1masher
06/09/21 2:42:10 PM
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Where theres smoke theres fire

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Jagr_68
06/09/21 2:43:52 PM
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Where there's teens there's CEmen

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Biscotti
06/09/21 2:44:36 PM
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yes.

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Tyranthraxus
06/09/21 2:44:57 PM
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It's already time for our weekly paedophile argument? The week isn't even halfway through.

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ImagineUsngAlts
06/09/21 2:46:17 PM
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MixedRaceBaby
06/09/21 2:46:58 PM
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i recently got suspended for calling out a dude defending having sex with minors.

this reminds me of those "EVEN THE PASSENGER GETS IN TROUBLE" comics from a long time ago

where are they.
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Turbam
06/09/21 2:47:51 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is relevant, I think...
Thats podo, not pedo

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VioletMassacre
06/09/21 2:54:32 PM
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I only see name calling and misunderstandings.

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Biscotti
06/09/21 3:31:08 PM
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VioletMassacre posted...
I only see name calling and misunderstandings.

naive.

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mustachedmystic
06/09/21 3:33:00 PM
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What's with the a? Is that the British spelling?

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Questionmarktarius
06/09/21 3:36:56 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Is that the British spelling?
Obligatory
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Lonestar2000
06/09/21 3:55:05 PM
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Crono99 posted...
I think this website has a problem of people interpreting things too much.
Oh nice, you aren't a mod any more, I can ignore you so I don't have to read all the dumb crap you post.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 3:58:50 PM
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Pedophilia is wrong, and I don't condone it, but I think it's too vilified in society; let's get those people help instead of making them out to be devils. Child molestation deserves all the condemnation it gets, though.

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Biscotti
06/09/21 4:01:33 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pedophilia is wrong, and I don't condone it, but I think it's too vilified in society; let's get those people help instead of making them out to be devils. Child molestation deserves all the condemnation it gets, though.

the is no evidence-based 'cure', it doesn't exist. the evidence base is actually the opposite ie. offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate.

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garan
06/09/21 4:30:52 PM
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Crono99 posted...
I think this website has a problem of people interpreting things too much.
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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 4:43:34 PM
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Biscotti posted...
the is no evidence-based 'cure', it doesn't exist.

There is a cure; think for yourself instead of buying into what other people say. Truth is, everything is logically pointless; there are no absolutes. Life only has meaning because we give it meaning.

Everything in society is ultimately just a construct. What is the actual, objective difference between a man and a woman? Or a child and an adult? Or a human and an animal? Or law and crime? Think logically, and you'll find plenty of gray areas, overlaps and anomalies in any code. No one is logically more correct than anyone else. It's all logically arbitrary.

So, really, if you want to stop being this or that, just tell yourself you're not it, condition yourself to think so and you'll be good. Applies to anything, really; just think whatever you want, and you can certainly do so while following society's arbitrary rules.

offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate.

Citation needed

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Biscotti
06/09/21 4:52:11 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
There is a cure; think for yourself instead of buying into what other people say. Truth is, everything is logically pointless; there are no absolutes. Life only has meaning because we give it meaning.

Everything in society is ultimately just a construct. What is the actual, objective difference between a man and a woman? Or a child and an adult? Or a human and an animal? Or law and crime? Think logically, and you'll find plenty of gray areas, overlaps and anomalies in any code. No one is logically more correct than anyone else. It's all logically arbitrary.

So, really, if you want to stop being this or that, just tell yourself you're not it, condition yourself to think so and you'll be good. Applies to anything, really; just think whatever you want, and you can certainly do so while following society's arbitrary rules.

Citation needed

you first, for 'the cure'.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 4:58:31 PM
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The cure to any mental problem is to think for yourself. Make your own meanings, because life is logically meaningless.

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ShineboxPhil
06/09/21 5:00:27 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
What's with the a? Is that the British spelling?

https://youtu.be/lkTvInVB3l4

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Biscotti
06/09/21 5:07:44 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
The cure to any mental problem is to think for yourself. Make your own meanings, because life is logically meaningless.

sure buddy, existentialism is a cure for sexually deviancy. got it.

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ultimate reaver
06/09/21 5:12:40 PM
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yeah its that people are saying paedo instead of pedo

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mustachedmystic
06/09/21 5:14:33 PM
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ShineboxPhil posted...
https://youtu.be/lkTvInVB3l4
Unfortunately, dat video is blocked in America.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/09/21 5:16:05 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Pedophilia is wrong, and I don't condone it, but I think it's too vilified in society; let's get those people help instead of making them out to be devils. Child molestation deserves all the condemnation it gets, though.

I mean, we don't even properly know how to heal their victims, but yeah, let's take attention away from stuff like that to help the people who are destroying completely innocent peoples lives. That seems fair. Let's also put pedophiles higher on the list of priority than black people in America just to throw another "fuck you, you're not important" their way /s.

Seriously, all the people who don't violate anyone who get the shit end of the stick we still haven't saved, but let's save pedophiles and chance them destroying more lives along the way.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 5:35:27 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
I mean, we don't even properly know how to heal their victims, but yeah, let's take attention away from stuff like that to help the people who are destroying completely innocent peoples lives.

Not knowing the difference between pedophilia and child molestation is part of the problem.

That seems fair. Let's also put pedophiles higher on the list of priority than black people in America just to throw another "fuck you, you're not important" their way /s.

When did I say that? You really lost all senses.

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COVxy
06/09/21 5:37:58 PM
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Biscotti posted...
the evidence base is actually the opposite ie. offenders offered therapy have higher offending rates. they simply learn to lie more effectively, and manipulate.

This seems...unlikely.

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catboy
06/09/21 5:39:30 PM
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Does anyone believe this person is new to CE anymore? Also they are using the new Samsung mascot as their avatar.

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Anteaterking
06/09/21 5:41:11 PM
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Lost_All_Senses
06/09/21 5:42:47 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Not knowing the difference between pedophilia and child molestation is part of the problem.

When did I say that? You really lost all senses.

Why do people always assume everyone cares about the difference? You should get the maximum punishment either way, so it doesn't fuckin matter. You shouldn't be free to just go back to society and potentially fuck up another young persons whole life. It's weird you care more about the pedophiles than the victims or potential victims. Are you gonna take personal responsibility and go talk to the families when these pedophiles you kept in society go do it again? Or are you just ok with it because it would have a low chance of it actually personally effecting you if they strike again?

Everyone will quickly acknowledge how much they've growned and learned between 16-20+, but as soon as they want to fuck a teenager, all of a sudden the difference is so small. Fuck outta here. They're all preying on people they know they have an advantage over. Otherwise they'd work on themselves and not need to rely on the other person being more naive and experienced than them.

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Lokison
06/09/21 5:45:01 PM
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I wonder how many moderation come from this topic. Let's find out, shall we?

Pedophilia is wrong, as is Ephebophilia.

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Biscotti
06/09/21 5:45:18 PM
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COVxy posted...
This seems...unlikely.

people get confused by the labels illness vs disorder; broadly speaking illnesses have some kind of treatment, and broadly speaking disorders do not, or at least any kind of robust evidence base, eg. psychopathy, peed.

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COVxy
06/09/21 5:46:25 PM
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Biscotti posted...
people get confused by the labels illness vs disorder; broadly speaking illnesses have some kind of treatment, and broadly speaking disorders do not, or at least any kind of robust evidence base, eg. psychopathy, peed.

I'm not confused. You're bullshitting.

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Wii_Shaker
06/09/21 5:46:47 PM
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In before the inevitable lock.

If you are attracted to children or individuals under the age of consent, get help.

I don't know how much of an actual problem it is on this site specifically, but it does exist.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 5:48:25 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Why do people always assume everyone cares about the difference?

Everyone should know the difference.

Lost_All_Senses posted...
You should get the maximum punishment either way, so it doesn't fuckin matter.

If you haven't actually harmed anyone, then there's no reason for you to be punished.

Lost_All_Senses posted...
It's weird you care more about the pedophiles than the victims or potential victims.

Misconstruing shit again smh

Lost_All_Senses posted...
Are you gonna take personal responsibility and go talk to the families when these pedophiles you kept in society go do it again?

If they've already harmed a child, then they should be locked up.
If they haven't, get them help. Next.

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MrMallard
06/09/21 5:49:58 PM
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I would say that GameFAQs doesn't have as much of a problem as they could be, but there's still some sketchy people who are worth keeping an eye on. Like it's not so bad that GameFAQs has a MAP problem, is what I'm saying - it's not such a shitshow that MAPs are using this website as a safe harbour to turn child rape into a sexual identity.

With that being said, we do have users who make shitty age of consent topics from time to time, and one of the biggest shitposters when it comes to topics of age of consent and sexual maturity is a guy who claims to have met his wife on IRC when she was 14 and he was 19. It's enough of an issue that I would recommend users to be vigilant in regards to it.

I would say that we have a culture problem when claims like that aren't cracked down upon to the fullest extent that they can be. But that culture problem extends beyond users claiming to have groomed children in online chatrooms. There's a reason people talk shit about how Star Wars spoilers have historically attracted a much harsher punishment than white nationalist rhetoric, and I think that goes to the top of the food chain - though fwiw, Allen seems to have been more active lately, and we did have a pretty solid user purge within the past week or so.

All we can really do as a community is mark this sort of shit and make it clear that it isn't welcome. The system is flawed, but if more people actively used it, maybe we could make more of a dent in this culture issue. I'm at the point where I'm critical of the moderation system, but the userbase probably needs to mark shit more than they have been to highlight the bullshit they don't want to see in this community.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 5:54:08 PM
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Lokison posted...
Pedophilia is wrong, as is Ephebophilia.

Ephebo is defined as being into 15-19 year olds. 15 is illegal in most places, so people shouldn't fuck with that. But 16 is legal in most places, and 18-19 is legal just about everywhere. We can't say if it's truly right or wrong; it's all gray, but if people are obeying the rules of society and there's no abuse on either side, let them be.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/09/21 5:54:09 PM
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It's funny how everyone I argue with here say "projecting" or "misconstruing", but then never elaborate on exactly how I'm doing that. It's almost like they have no actual defense against my claims . I know if someone was coming at me sideways, Id be able to reply with my perspective and show everyone exactly how they were misconstruing what I said.

Nows the part where you say it's cause it's not worth you elaborating on or something. Blah blah blah no self reflection.

Also, who is getting in trouble that didn't fully act on it? This place has those oeople and they're not in trouble. The people Chris Hansen and Youtubers bust rarely went to jail. That's why I'm not commenting in that, because you're imagining it.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 5:58:38 PM
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Name checks out.

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Lost_All_Senses
06/09/21 6:02:52 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Blah blah blah no self reflection.


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Lokison
06/09/21 6:03:06 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Ephebo is defined as being into 15-19 year olds. 15 is illegal in most places, so people shouldn't fuck with that. But 16 is legal in most places, and 18-19 is legal just about everywhere. We can't say if it's truly right or wrong; it's all gray, but if people are obeying the rules of society and there's no abuse on either side, let them be.
You know what I meant, dont be pedantic. I was aiming at the idea of a 40 y/o ogling teens in general.

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Scotty_Rogers
06/09/21 6:04:46 PM
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Lokison posted...
You know what I meant, dont be pedantic. I was aiming at the idea of a 40 y/o ogling teens in general.

If the teens are legal, it's gray. You could argue that you shouldn't ogle anyone, period. Maybe all sex is bad.

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