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IfGodCouldDie 06/13/21 11:12:47 PM #202: |
Cheese_Crackers posted...
No? I'm not sure what would give you that impression. The point of my previous post is that the "it comes from the comics" defense isn't a valid defense at all.So they are making a live action saga based on those very same comics, but you want them to what? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheese_Crackers 06/13/21 11:17:07 PM #203: |
IfGodCouldDie posted...
So they are making a live action saga based on those very same comics, but you want them to what?No one forced them to choose that specific comic storyline to adapt. At some point an exec or writer said "the TVA are cool, let's do that". So I want them to not choose terrible comic plots. Or adapt them to fit the established MCU canon. --- Though the fear of death is a common one, the fear of life is a more rational one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheese_Crackers 06/13/21 11:18:02 PM #204: |
daynlokki posted...
Yes and those comics were before Disney. This was always the direction it had to go to get everything in the same universe.Huh? I don't get your argument. Are you saying that their plan has always been to have the comics and MCU take place in different universes in the same multiverse? Because there seems to be little evidence for that. --- Though the fear of death is a common one, the fear of life is a more rational one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/13/21 11:26:45 PM #205: |
Cheese_Crackers posted...
No one forced them to choose that specific comic storyline to adapt. At some point an exec or writer said "the TVA are cool, let's do that". So I want them to not choose terrible comic plots. Or adapt them to fit the established MCU canon.I mean time travel ends up being pretty integral to the Marvel universe. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 12:46:21 AM #206: |
Cheese_Crackers posted...
Huh? I don't get your argument. Are you saying that their plan has always been to have the comics and MCU take place in different universes in the same multiverse? Because there seems to be little evidence for that.How long has the multiverse been a major plot point for Marvel in the comics again? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/14/21 12:50:12 AM #207: |
daynlokki posted...
How long has the multiverse been a major plot point for Marvel in the comics again?He doesn't know, he's already said he hasn't read any of the comics. --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheese_Crackers 06/14/21 2:20:35 AM #208: |
I feel like we're going in circles here.
I understand that the Marvel comic lore has certain aspects that have been mainstays for some time, including time travel and the multiverse. But that says absolutely nothing about the implementation of it in other media. I'm arguing about the quality of the writing in Loki as an MCU property. "It happened in the comics" is not a defense of the writing, just like changing the lore from the comics to the MCU is not a criticism of the writing. How many tweaks to the lore have been made in adapting the comics to the MCU? Infinity War is clearly an adaptation of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, but the movie is extremely different. Thanos's core motivation was changed, and I'd argue all day that it fits the MCU better. I don't care if they leave time travel or the multiverse out of the MCU. Whatever they do, just make it good. Hell, most of the good MCU movies make no reference to it (Civil War, GotG, IW). For the record, I have read some standalone comics like IG and Civil War, but no, I wouldn't consider myself a comics fan. --- Though the fear of death is a common one, the fear of life is a more rational one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 06/14/21 2:38:10 AM #209: |
Yeah the multiverse stuff was inevitable if the MCU went long enough. Even the CW shows did it a couple of years ago.
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BeyondWalls 06/14/21 2:49:27 AM #210: |
"But it happened in the comics!" --- END OF LINE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/14/21 2:50:53 AM #211: |
Cheese_Crackers posted...
I feel like we're going in circles here.Do you have inside knowledge in to how the rest of the series plays out or something? --- Mind post. XBL:Cyanide Sucker PSN:IfGodCouldDie IGN:SuperPattyCakes FC: SW-1615-6159-5504 Boop Trooper reporting for duty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 10:17:50 AM #212: |
Seems like a long rant about the first episode of a series. Of course you dont have a full grasp of whats actually occurring. Youre like 1:10th of the way through Lokis first season lol.
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lolife67 06/14/21 10:21:38 AM #213: |
BeyondWalls posted...
Which they adapted as his blade in Endgame. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RetsuZaiZen 06/14/21 12:05:09 PM #214: |
daynlokki posted...
Seems like a long rant about the first episode of a series. Of course you dont have a full grasp of whats actually occurring. Youre like 1:10th of the way through Lokis first season lol. I mean they only have five episodes left so they need to have shit firmly established by Ep 2, Ep 3 at the latest. --- Why do nerds always get caught up on the details? Michael Jordan is both the greatest and most overrated basketball player of all time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 12:13:51 PM #215: |
RetsuZaiZen posted...
I mean they only have five episodes left so they need to have shit firmly established by Ep 2, Ep 3 at the latest.So 16% done with only the first season. They are already working on season 2 as well. Do people usually make decisions based on 16% of something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/14/21 3:29:37 PM #216: |
daynlokki posted...
But you need to otherwise you cant introduce X-men, Inhumans, Deadpool, or anything else to the MCU. So how are you adding in all these things without a multiverse? I mean X-men have been around since the Cuban missile crisis. Magneto threatened the president. Yet in the sacred timeline, there ARE NO MUTANTS.Why? They didn't need to bring in Willem Dafoe and Tobey Maguire when Spiderman turned up. Why the fuck does the MCU need Jessica Alba and the dude who played Toad In order to introduce new characters? Thor and Iron man just turned up and it was fine --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 06/14/21 3:32:49 PM #217: |
the F4 can be introduced without any historical issues. mutants can't, without just abandoning a lot of the iconic ones. unless you're ok handwaving away "well, why didn't they ever get involved". but, as you've been saying all along... that's terrible writing.
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InfinityMonster 06/14/21 3:34:53 PM #218: |
daynlokki posted...
So 16% done with only the first season. They are already working on season 2 as well. Do people usually make decisions based on 16% of something?There are no plans for season 2. None of the D+ MCU shows have plans for second seasons. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 4:37:51 PM #219: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
Why?They are adding mutants to a timeline that has had none whatsoever. You expecting 200 year old Wolverine to just pop up and act like hes been here the whole time. Ya we know about the snap and how it was a big deal, but the X-men honestly just didnt give a fuck whatsoever ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 4:39:27 PM #220: |
InfinityMonster posted...
There are no plans for season 2. None of the D+ MCU shows have plans for second seasons. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inverse.com/entertainment/loki-season-2-confirmed-shooting-date-january-2020-release/amp Yup no plans at all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 06/14/21 5:29:13 PM #221: |
daynlokki posted...
They are adding mutants to a timeline that has had none whatsoever. You expecting 200 year old Wolverine to just pop up and act like hes been here the whole time. Ya we know about the snap and how it was a big deal, but the X-men honestly just didnt give a fuck whatsoeverAs opposed to 2000 Year old Thor who just turned up. I don't get why you think Wolverine would be a hard character to insert into the MCU --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgur.com/yPw05Ob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/14/21 5:30:48 PM #222: |
daynlokki posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inverse.com/entertainment/loki-season-2-confirmed-shooting-date-january-2020-release/ampDo you expect us to believe easily searchable facts or a random person on the internet who is certain of something? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 06/14/21 5:32:35 PM #223: |
daynlokki posted...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inverse.com/entertainment/loki-season-2-confirmed-shooting-date-january-2020-release/ampI mean, it's probably happening since it's PW, but that doesn't really confirm it and the article even makes it clear that Marvel made it clear these were one time things. Good to hear though. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 5:43:20 PM #224: |
InfinityMonster posted...
I mean, it's probably happening since it's PW, but that doesn't really confirm it and the article even makes it clear that Marvel made it clear these were one time things. Good to hear though.Article directly spells out pre production for season 2 of Loki is already beginning. You think shows routinely go into pre production when they arent planning a 2nd season? All the others were limited series meant to be one offs. You read that right: Loki Season 2, which will star Tom Hiddleston reprising his role from the Marvel Cinematic Universe films, is currently in some stage of pre-production with a target shooting date of January 2022. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 5:44:35 PM #225: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
As opposed to 2000 Year old Thor who just turned up.Well you mean outside of everything he has done up until 2021 not happening at ALL in the Marvel Universe? Hes also not the only mutant. All of which have been doing things since MCU started in a separate universe. Welcome to the multiverse and why its implemented. 2000 year old Thor is from a DIFFERENT PLANE OF EXISTENCE lmao. Of course he could be held out and then pop up randomly. Wolverine is from like fucking Canada. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 5:46:34 PM #226: |
Funkydog posted...
Do you expect us to believe easily searchable facts or a random person on the internet who is certain of something?Well I mean they are in pre production with a tentative date to start filming in 2022 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Medussa 06/14/21 5:51:54 PM #227: |
yes, the weapon program could create a wolverine in 2025 (mcu time). it'd be a stretch for him to be james howlett, though. and it would be ridiculous for it to be a james howlett that is 150 years old.
it's not nearly as easy to introduce a magneto for the first time in 2025 (mcu time). uncoupling his backstory from auschwitz damages him, imo beyond repair. not doing so makes him a 90 year old who never actually meaningfully did anything with his powers. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! And then there's Abby... She likes to braid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/14/21 5:53:41 PM #228: |
daynlokki posted...
Well I mean they are in pre production with a tentative date to start filming in 2022Those sound like facts, I'm sticking with the random internet person. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 06/14/21 5:55:31 PM #229: |
daynlokki posted...
Article directly spells out pre production for season 2 of Loki is already beginning. You think shows routinely go into pre production when they arent planning a 2nd season? All the others were limited series meant to be one offs.Because it's not officially confirmed and PW, which does have a good track record since it's industry shit, has been wrong tons of times and stuff just never happened or was something in disguise. It could simply be another TVA show. Regardless, Michael Waldron himself is not sure and this is from a week ago, not November. https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/exclusive-loki-season-1-will-be-a-standalone-season/ I'll wait till the season ends and they announce something officially to get truly hyped. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daynlokki 06/14/21 6:02:36 PM #230: |
InfinityMonster posted...
Because it's not officially confirmed and PW, which does have a good track record since it's industry shit, has been wrong tons of times and stuff just never happened or was something in disguise. It could simply be another TVA show.Last I heard Waldrons deal specifically stated he was on for Loki season 2 as well. Like, explicitly written in the contract. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 06/14/21 6:14:10 PM #231: |
Funkydog posted...
Those sound like facts, I'm sticking with the random internet person.Production Weekly is not "facts" and I'm not denying it's probably happening, I made that clear in the first reply. I hope you understand the difference between something official and work listings for possible upcoming stuff. daynlokki posted... Last I heard Waldrons deal specifically stated he was on for Loki season 2 as well. Like, explicitly written in the contract.Is the second paragraph yours? Where's the link? "On for season 2" "explicitly written in the contract" That's not what the second paragraph is saying. Why do I have a feeling that's from "inside sources" which is not confirmation of anything. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 06/14/21 6:49:11 PM #232: |
InfinityMonster posted...
Production Weekly is not "facts" and I'm not denying it's probably happening, I made that clear in the first reply. I hope you understand the difference between something official and work listings for possible upcoming stuff.That's fair. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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