Poll of the Day > Twice Elected Democrat SHERIFF has SWITCHED to GOP cause of DEFUND THE POLICE!!!

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Twice Elected Democrat, Sheriff Chip Shuler has SWITCHED his allegiance to the Republicans because of the relentless calls for "Defund the Police" from Democrats!!

He announced he was quitting the party he normally represented saying it had been "difficult to watch his deputies" trying to work during the "unprecedented assault" on their profession

Chip says his deputies work ahrd to serve and protect the citizens of Smyth County and he can't bare to watch his men and women try to move forward when people keep attacking them and sa they remain in an honourable profession and should nto be judged by the bad acts of a few

However, he did indicate "I have always been a CONSERVATIVE throughout my law enforcement career of 38 years which has made my switch all the more easier"

He is the 3rd to switch allegiances after last year, Sheriff Brian Hieatt of Tazewell County and Sheriff John McClanahan of the Buchanan County also quit Democrats

Shuler says he was welcomed with open arms by the Virginia GOP who now share the same values he valued througout his life

Republican chairman, Adam Tolbert said "I congratulate Sheriff Shuler on taking this bold move to leave the Democratic Party and join the Republican Party. We are thrilled to have him as a member of the Republican Party"

Hieatt told Fox News "When we hear talks about defund the police, take away resources, the bottom line is, you get what you pay for and that's with any profession. So if you take away money and have to pay bottom dollar for certain for all the service and not have the resources to properly train, not have the money to properly test all the new applicants and new people coming in, then you're not goin to get the best. If you want better people in law enforcement, then tehre need to be more funding to be able to do more testing. When we arrest somebody, when we convict somebody, there's been a victim of a crime.".

Democrats have a slim majority in Virginia to pass multiple police reform bills such as no knock warrants

Sheriff McClanahan said that the democratic party is no longer the party his grandfather was involved in and the ideologies have shifted away from traditional values such as defunding the police and taking away safeguards

Do you support Defund the Police?

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Makes sense, he looks like a weasel for sure.

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Considering the anti-police sentiment among leftists, it's unsurprising. I just hope that moderates come to their senses before the left drags the nation into lawlessness.

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Why does he look like a completely different ugly oily pig in every picture posted?

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Why is this news? Who gives a fuck about who is a member of what political party?

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Its making the news because the GOP is pretty quickly becoming the anti-woke party and will light themselves on fire if it impedes progress for 4 more years.

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Who ****ing cares about some podunk cop's political affiliation. The fear-mongering about the 'radical' left is hilarious, though. US Democrats would be considered conservative almost anywhere else in the world. American politicians on both sides are all owned by lobbyists, anyway, so joke's on you if you think your party has any real moral values.

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starslight posted...

The fear-mongering about the 'radical' left is hilarious, though. US Democrats would be considered conservative almost anywhere else in the world.

I love how people keep parroting this fiction. However, the US Democrats are way further to the left of even liberal nations on a great many issues (including supporting things like the wealth tax, which only *four* European nations have) while the US's Republicans would be considered liberal throughout much of the world.

starslight posted...

American politicians on both sides are all owned by lobbyists, anyway,

Parties on the whole maybe, but they can vary at the individual level.

starslight posted...

so joke's on you if you think your party has any real moral values.

Politicians with morals wouldn't get very much done.

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I came in here because I thought the question was going to be hot or not? So disappointed.

Zeus posted...

Considering the anti-police sentiment among leftists, it's unsurprising. I just hope that moderates come to their senses before the left drags the nation into lawlessness.

I know it was eons ago, but remember when a bunch of Trump-supporting conservatives attacked the Capitol and assaulted police? Remember when the GOP filibustered to sink an independent investigation into that very insurrection, severely crippling the chances of bringing those responsible for an assault on police to justice?

But sure, blame 'leftists' and label them 'anti-police' lmao

Figured a left-leaning centrist would be smarter than this

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Meh. It literally says he was a conservative Dem which are basically Republicans anyway. This was not some radical shift. He even said it was easy lol.

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Far-Queue posted...

I know it was eons ago, but remember when a bunch of Trump-supporting conservatives attacked the Capitol and assaulted police? Remember when the GOP filibustered to sink an independent investigation into that very insurrection, severely crippling the chances of bringing those responsible for an assault on police to justice?

But sure, blame 'leftists' and label them 'anti-police' lmao

Figured a left-leaning centrist would be smarter than this

Don't bother. He keeps spreading this rhetoric and not defending it when pressed.

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Full Throttle posted...

"When we hear talks about defund the police, take away resources, the bottom line is, you get what you pay for and that's with any profession. So if you take away money and have to pay bottom dollar for certain for all the service and not have the resources to properly train, not have the money to properly test all the new applicants and new people coming in, then you're not goin to get the best. If you want better people in law enforcement, then tehre need to be more funding to be able to do more testing. When we arrest somebody, when we convict somebody, there's been a victim of a crime.".

True. First responders (or whatever the English phrase would be) are important and when those are underfunded then the quality of the services declines.

Not to mention, both sides have issues they want the police to be stricter on and thus need the funding to be able to do that.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

True. First responders (or whatever the English phrase would be) are important and when those are underfunded then the quality of the services declines.

Not to mention, both sides have issues they want the police to be stricter on and thus need the funding to be able to do that.

The central thrust of defunding the police is reallocating those funds to other services that are better suited for dealing with situations like mental health crises, rather than throwing money at police that routinely end up just making things worse because they're not the right people for the job. In fact, it's because police are being deployed to so many inappropriate situations that they find themselves underfunded and spread too thin. As counterintuitive as it seems, reallocating funding away from them to more appropriate services will in fact help with budget issues, simply because a huge amount of their inflated budgets goes toward militarizing them, and that just isn't necessary with better crisis management.

As it stands, police are already the #1 line on many municipal budgets by a huge margin. That's focusing a whole lot of funding on cures instead of prevention.

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Zeus posted...

Considering the anti-police sentiment among leftists, it's unsurprising. I just hope that moderates come to their senses before the left drags the nation into lawlessness.

Because the police are so polite and cordial and certainly won't kill you at the drop of a hat.

Far-Queue posted...

I know it was eons ago, but remember when a bunch of Trump-supporting conservatives attacked the Capitol and assaulted police? Remember when the GOP filibustered to sink an independent investigation into that very insurrection, severely crippling the chances of bringing those responsible for an assault on police to justice?

But sure, blame 'leftists' and label them 'anti-police' lmao

Was that the time they forced police of a police station then burned it to the ground? Wait, no, that was actually BLM which the far-left continued to support even after that and other real attacks on police?

The right, including the GOP, has overwhelmingly supported police and had their back. There's no amount of false comparisons you could draw to support any other conclusion.

keyblader1985 posted...

Don't bother. He keeps spreading this rhetoric and not defending it when pressed.

You keep spreading this misinformation but I've frequently torn apart the SAME heavily flawed criticisms time and time again. The brunt of your trollish argument amounts to "Oh! He missed one! Even though it's identical to the three dozen other ones he already responded to!"

adjl posted...

As it stands, police are already the #1 line on many municipal budgets by a huge margin. That's focusing a whole lot of funding on cures instead of prevention.

lolwut?

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The largest expenditure by far tends to be entitlement spending, followed right behind by education (although in the case of local, it tends to be education first). You have to keep going down further and further and further until you hit police, which only make up 4% of the spend.

Your claim is just a flat-out lie

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keyblader1985 posted...

Don't bother. He keeps spreading this rhetoric and not defending it when pressed.

You were right!

Morons gonna moron, I guess.

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To be clear, Zeus, you don't get to say anything about this to me until you actually rebut the points you ignored last time. We're not going to keep having this argument just because you refuse to listen or respond.

PotD logging sites exist; look at the topic, realize all you did was make up shit about both me and BLM, and make a proper response. Or you can keep yelling at those clouds. Maybe one day they'll finally get their act together.

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Arcturusisnow posted...

Because the police are so polite and cordial and certainly won't kill you at the drop of a hat.

Whut?

Now this is fear mongering.


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keyblader1985 posted...

To be clear, Zeus, you don't get to say anything about this to me until you actually rebut the points you ignored last time.

To be clear keyblader, if you've said it, I've probably rebutted it three dozens so far and a few of those were with citations. I've probably refuted the fuck out of your claims up and down the road. Just because I didn't respond to the SAME THING I already answered a dozen times before because you keep repeating lies doesn't mean that those lies haven't been addressed. I'm going to need to need to just toss this shit into a word document so every time you repeat some stupid shit verbatim I can post the thing that debunked it instead of needing to reinvent the wheel.

keyblader1985 posted...

We're not going to keep having this argument just because you refuse to listen or respond.

You literally never read my posts, so how could you argue or respond? And how do I know you don't? BECAUSE EVERY TIME I TURN AROUND YOU'RE BRINGING UP SOMETHING I ALREADY ADDRESSED THE LAST DOZEN TIMES YOU ASKED IT!! FUCK!! And as much as I try to respond to things on Gamefaqs, even I can't keep up with all of the nonsense that you and others are involved with and, since 90% of the time it's the same fucking shit I've already debunked, it's not like there's much point. Get some new fucking material.

So no, we're not having an "argument" because that would suggest you would ever participate in good faith.

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So clouds then?

All your accusations and "probably" don't count for much when I have transcripts and sources to go by, which, just like last time, you ignored. That's one of the things you're known for here; ducking out when someone calls you out, and either waiting a week or not responding at all, every single time. I'm also curious what specifically you think I've ignored, given I usually directly quote and reply to anything you say when we talk.

Given those posting habits, it would be very hard for you to successfully refute anything; saying a thing and then dipping out is far from definitive, after all. But I've already learned not to expect anything solid from you, since the time you seemed to have me confused with someone else and got upset with me about things I've literally never even spoken on.

So yeah, until you can give up the random accusations, topic fleeing, hypocrisy (you are guilty of literally everything you've accused me of), and get some actual reading comprehension and make sure you're actually talking to the right person, you are not worth engaging on an intellectual level.

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Caps lock is cruise control for cool

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implement that in minneapolis, let's see what happens lol

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Mentioning them specifically implies that Minneapolis is a special case, which would downplay its effectiveness as an example that defunding police wouldn't work.

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keyblader1985 posted...

Don't bother. He keeps spreading this rhetoric and not defending it when pressed.

Being a bigots all he knows. I keep saying we all need to mass block him.

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