Current Events > Mexican cartel declares war on Mexico Governement

(+) Yeah! (+)

spikethedevil posted...

Because American intervention always ends well.

Historically its ended well plenty of times, its just the more recent examples in the Middle East that truly ended horribly for the local populace.

However if you dont think the US would actually attempt at leaving Mexico in a genuinely better state than it left the states it intervened in within the Middle East, youre being incredibly naive.

Think about it this way, the US has genuinely little stake in places like Libya or Iraq. You can show up, topple the Dictator and celebrate your victory while leaving the place in shambles because ultimately its not America that suffers because of it (other than losing a degree of international standing, however that doesnt really matter because Americas allies will always be a powerful force in the UN). Who suffers? The locals, and then the refugee crisis eventually bleeds into Europe and Asia, but it doesnt really affect America much.

On the other hand, if Mexico falls into an open state of war between cartels and the government, its America that gets effected directly due to the economic impact itll have on North America as a whole, as well as the inevitable refugee crisis America will face (that will dwarf the current issues we have at the border today).

America will be forced to handle this more delicately than it has handled anything in the last half century because the US will be directly impacted, unlike how America treated the Middle East.

I firmly believe if this turns into full scale war, you wont be seeing America the World Police intervention, it would likely be a full UN sanctioned coalition that gets involved.

---

spikethedevil posted...

Because American intervention always ends well.

Seldom, but this is a war most of us could get behind and needs to happen. Not a lot of grey area with the cartels and Mexico are our neighbors, it really is in all of North and South America's best interest to eradicate these fucks (cartels, not Mexicans)

---

Dakimakura posted...

Let the Cartel take over, then America comes in and clears them out and declares Mexico for itself as a subsidiary nation. Then we can freely exploit the workers to make all our crap instead of relying on China.

https://frontmission.fandom.com/wiki/United_States_of_the_New_Continent

---

PoundGarden posted...

Seldom, but this is a war most of us could get behind and needs to happen. Not a lot of grey area with the cartels and Mexico are our neighbors, it really is in all of North and South America's best interest to eradicate these fucks (cartels, not Mexicans)

As we all know, the mafia was obliterated by overwhelming military force and not by legalizing the contraband they traded in. Shut the fuck up.

---

Great lets legalize all drugs, smh shut the fuck up

---

cuh posted...

Me going to Mexico in 2 weeks:

Wii_Shaker posted...

I'm actually going to Mexico in two weeks also.

my gut says there's gonna be a travel advisory/ban by then if this keeps up

---

JTilly posted...

Great lets legalize all drugs, smh shut the fuck up

Yes

---

Garioshi posted...

As we all know, the mafia was obliterated by overwhelming military force and not by legalizing the contraband they traded in. Shut the fuck up.

If you could actually fucking comprehend what you read and could be bothered to educate yourself on the subject before mouthing off, you'd know drugs are just a fraction of what cartels are involved in. So using your, um, "logic", we should legalize human trafficking too?

The fuck out of here

---

Gamerguymass posted...

Yeah I don't know what reality you are living in but it's not this one.

Afghanistan is a stroll through the park with a gentle breeze compared to what fighting the cartels in Mexico will be.

This is a question out of ignorance, but do the Cartels have access to thousands of tonnes of artillery, helicopters, and planes like Al'Queda did following the Cold War?

---

Mexican here. Cartels don't exist. "Cartels" are actually run by politicians and businessmen, always were. They are obviously not at war with themselves.

Perascamin posted...

This is a question out of ignorance, but do the Cartels have access to thousands of tonnes of artillery, helicopters, and planes like Al'Queda did following the Cold War?

Yes. It is absolutely insane the kind of money these people have, and not being religious fundamentalists, more people are willing to work with/supply them. Pablo Escobar was the richest man on the planet, think about that for a second.

---

harley2280 posted...

Given our History the US is probably funding the narcos.

Don Jr.'s cocaine habit certainly is.

---

Another war on drugs success story.

---

008Zulu posted...

harley2280 posted...

Given our History the US is probably funding the narcos.

Don Jr.'s cocaine habit certainly is.

Fuck that got a laugh out of me.
---

CruelBuffalo posted...

I mean San Diego is one of the safest cities in America and borders Tijuana. Soo the violence is not spilling over into the US

The cartels aren't stupid. They know they can fuck with the Mexican people and the govt, but they know once they start killing/kidnapping Americans, they're gonna get the ISIS treatment with drone strikes and american spec ops.

---

I thought they already puppet the Mexican government.

JTilly posted...

Great lets legalize all drugs, smh shut the fuck up

That actually gives them an even bigger consumer base and market size. They won't cease to supply drugs and sell them after they become legal

LNSS posted...

Mexican here. Cartels don't exist. "Cartels" are actually run by politicians and businessmen, always were. They are obviously not at war with themselves.

This makes a lot of sense

2Pacavelli posted...

This makes a lot of sense

If you are interested, take a look at this interview:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/oswaldo-zavala-interview-mexico-cartels/

Better hope mexico has oil

---

So if the cartels are going to war against the cops, then who will the cartels bribe? Or are they just cutting out the middle man?

---

pogo_rabid posted...

The cartels aren't stupid. They know they can fuck with the Mexican people and the govt, but they know once they start killing/kidnapping Americans, they're gonna get the ISIS treatment with drone strikes and american spec ops.

Sadly they already kill and kidnap Americans who visit Mexico.

Eh, don't start shit and there wont be shit. I will still cross into Tijuana to visit family.

---

pogo_rabid posted...

The cartels aren't stupid. They know they can fuck with the Mexican people and the govt, but they know once they start killing/kidnapping Americans, they're gonna get the ISIS treatment with drone strikes and american spec ops.

wut

they kill and kidnap foreigners all the time

---

UnfairRepresent posted...

wut

they kill and kidnap foreigners all the time

I'm referring to this happening en mass in the popular "safe" party cities like TJ.

---