Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 374: Israel's Next Target

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 6:03:18 AM
#204:


christians would be incorrect about that.

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PerfectChaosZ
06/02/21 6:33:49 AM
#205:


Theres a lot of people incorrect about a lot of things that are still in control over us and many aspects of our lives
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 6:43:51 AM
#206:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Theres a lot of people incorrect about a lot of things that are still in control over us and many aspects of our lives

yes. so?

i seriously don't get what you guys are arguing. i'm not allowed to point out when biden says something dumb because... many people say dumb things?

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PerfectChaosZ
06/02/21 6:51:08 AM
#207:


Whats hard to understand about they may be incorrect but theyre still in power over us so what next exactly
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 6:57:57 AM
#208:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Whats hard to understand about they may be incorrect but theyre still in power over us so what next exactly

...what is this sentence

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KamikazePotato
06/02/21 7:21:07 AM
#209:


I don't really understand this discussion. A politician made a comment meant to make another politician look worse by targeting an issue that many Americans feel strongly about. It was a political move, and one with a definite net gain. Your personal feelings on religion don't really come into play here.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 7:27:38 AM
#210:


i just wanted to express that i thought biden's comments were dumb.

again, why am i not allowed to say this?

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Samurai7
06/02/21 7:53:58 AM
#211:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i just wanted to express that i thought biden's comments were dumb.

again, why am i not allowed to say this?

You can say that just like they can express that they think your comments are dumb. Are you always subconsciously a hypocrite?

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Inviso
06/02/21 7:59:46 AM
#212:


Biden's comments aren't dumb in the context of America's stupid, hyper-religious population.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 8:01:28 AM
#213:


Samurai7 posted...
You can say that just like they can express that they think your comments are dumb. Are you always subconsciously a hypocrite?

when the fuck did i say they're not allowed to say that my comments are dumb? i just don't understand what's dumb about my comments.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 8:03:48 AM
#214:


Inviso posted...
Biden's comments aren't dumb in the context of America's stupid, hyper-religious population.

yes, they are. just because they're effective doesn't mean they're not dumb.

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Samurai7
06/02/21 8:33:51 AM
#215:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yes, they are. just because they're effective doesn't mean they're not dumb.

They explained why they think they aren't dumb and your response was 'why am I not allowed to say a thing!?!?'

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BlAcK TuRtLe
06/02/21 8:59:14 AM
#216:


Glad to see everyone has completely forgotten about the Israel/Palestine mess already. I thought the speed at which popular discourse changed was a symptom of Trump flooding the news cycle with his stupidity, but it seems as though the world's attention span is forever fucked.

Either that or all the people just hearing about it for the first time educated themselves and learned that the whole situation is probably the biggest clusterfuck in world politics right now, with no easy solution.

Nah who am I kidding, they all just jumped on the latest Kardashian scandal or whatever

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 9:04:10 AM
#217:


Samurai7 posted...
They explained why they think they aren't dumb and your response was 'why am I not allowed to say a thing!?!?'

KP said "your personal feelings about religion don't come into play here," as if i'm not allowed to bring up these feelings.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/02/21 9:42:26 AM
#218:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
...why go after him for something totally unimportant?

KamikazePotato posted...
Because it's important to millions of Americans.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
...doesn't mean trump deserves to get criticized for not being a christian.


HashtagSEP posted...
Trump portrayed himself as super mega Christian to win those people over, though. It was just calling him on his shit.

Mr Lasastryke posted...
biden also said "MAN I WISH HE WOULD OPEN THAT BIBLE SOMETIME."

...like, no. trump wouldn't become a better person if he read the bible. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

HashtagSEP posted...
Christians think reading the Bible can help you be a better person.

This isnt rocket science.


This is really straightforward, Lasa.

You asked a question. You were provided an answer.

You proceeded to bitch about the answers you received.

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kevwaffles
06/02/21 9:55:33 AM
#220:


In Trump's specific case he could actually learn something from reading the Bible. It's kind of like a caveman learning that fire is hot.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 9:56:04 AM
#221:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
You asked a question. You were provided an answer.

You proceeded to bitch about the answers you received.

no, i didn't. SEP said "biden wants trump to read the bible because, as a christian, he believes that the bible will turn trump into a better person." then i called that line of reasoning incorrect. then instead of just saying "yup," people started attacking me for reasons unclear to me.

and now I'M the one "bitching." ok.

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Forceful_Dragon
06/02/21 10:03:07 AM
#222:


people didn't "attack" you.

people "explained" to you that you are not the arbiter of how all humans view religion and so your beliefs about the pointlessness of the bible and Christianity are not pertinent to the explanations that were provided for:

why go after him for something totally unimportant?


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Samurai7
06/02/21 10:05:49 AM
#223:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
people didn't "attack" you.

people "explained" to you that you are not the arbiter of how all humans view religion and so your beliefs about the pointlessness of the bible and Christianity are not pertinent to the explanations that were provided for:


To be fair my comment was a bit of an attack but that was after he was already crying about how he wasn't allowed to say anything.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 10:07:02 AM
#224:


Samurai7 posted...
To be fair my comment was a bit of an attack but that was after he was already crying about how he wasn't allowed to say anything.

shut the fuck up

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Samurai7
06/02/21 10:10:37 AM
#225:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
shut the fuck up

When your reaction to someone pointing out your hypocrisy is an outburst like this, you really shouldn't be surprised that this is how people react to you. It's not the first time I've seen you having a tantrum like this in the politics topic.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/21 10:11:42 AM
#226:


Whats going on in here?

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UshiromiyaEva
06/02/21 10:12:02 AM
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 10:14:04 AM
#228:


Samurai7 posted...
When your reaction to someone pointing out your hypocrisy is an outburst like this,

again, point out how the fuck i've been hypocritical.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 10:15:02 AM
#229:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lasa why

thanks for your pointless contribution

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kevwaffles
06/02/21 11:16:00 AM
#230:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
Samurai7 posted...
When your reaction to someone pointing out your hypocrisy is an outburst like this,

again, point out how the fuck i've been hypocritical.

"Why am I not allowed to say this?" This is an inherently hypocritical defensive response designed to shut down any dissenting viewpoints in a conversation.
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 11:22:36 AM
#231:


kevwaffles posted...
"Why am I not allowed to say this?" This is an inherently hypocritical defensive response designed to shut down any dissenting viewpoints in a conversation.

again, how is this hypocritical when i didn't say people weren't allowed to say what they said?

i asked for clarification on why my comments were dumb. i didn't say "you're not allowed to call my comments dumb!" that would, indeed, be hypocritical.

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Dancedreamer
06/02/21 11:23:56 AM
#232:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
...like, no. trump wouldn't become a better person if he read the bible. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

I mean I think Biden's point is that he's claiming he's a Christian, but doesn't live up to any of the ideals. Which I think is a fair call out. I don't think the point is "Read the bible, become a better person". Also, I became a better person by reading the bible. It turned me into a secular humanist.

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kevwaffles
06/02/21 11:36:32 AM
#233:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
kevwaffles posted...
"Why am I not allowed to say this?" This is an inherently hypocritical defensive response designed to shut down any dissenting viewpoints in a conversation.

again, how is this hypocritical when i didn't say people weren't allowed to say what they said?

i asked for clarification on why my comments were dumb. i didn't say "you're not allowed to call my comments dumb!" that would, indeed, be hypocritical.

See that's actually not hypocritical at all. Not to say it wouldn't be a flawed statement for multiple other reasons, but it doesn't imply other people's comments are dumb by saying it.

When the literal only consequence to you saying something is people saying things about it in return, the natural meaning of "not being allowed to say it" means not having to face that sole consequence. And that literally means you're saying others shouldn't have disagreed or said anything at all.
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Mega Mana
06/02/21 11:36:47 AM
#234:


Dancedreamer posted...
I mean I think Biden's point is that he's claiming he's a Christian, but doesn't live up to any of the ideals. Which I think is a fair call out. I don't think the point is "Read the bible, become a better person".


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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 11:40:54 AM
#235:


Dancedreamer posted...
I mean I think Biden's point is that he's claiming he's a Christian, but doesn't live up to any of the ideals. Which I think is a fair call out. I don't think the point is "Read the bible, become a better person".

the "i wish he would open that bible!" quote makes it seem like that is the point, though. like, what's the point of that quote otherwise? how does the world benefit from trump reading the bible?*

i could be wrong but it seemed to me like he was saying more than just "trump obviously isn't a christian so he should stop pretending to be one."

* yes, i get that this the "face value" interpretation. i understand that the "point" could be that he was trying to appeal to the millions of american christians out there. if that's the case, i maintain that he said something that was effective in helping him become president but was nevertheless nonsensical and dumb.

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kevwaffles
06/02/21 11:46:23 AM
#236:


I dunno, I'm pretty sure my alignment switched to Lawful Good when I read the Bible the other day.

Then I played Binding of Isaac and it reverted to True Neutral.
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GuessMyUserName
06/02/21 11:46:32 AM
#237:


it's a pretty witty comment about how Trump loves to use the bible as a prop and nothing else

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PerfectChaosZ
06/02/21 12:46:44 PM
#238:


Lasa was saying I was not letting him talk smack about Biden when I don't give a crap about Biden and was basically agreeing with him
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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 12:53:16 PM
#239:


PerfectChaosZ posted...
Lasa was saying I was not letting him talk smack about Biden when I don't give a crap about Biden and was basically agreeing with him

ok, sorry for misinterpreting your post.

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FFDragon
06/02/21 1:12:16 PM
#240:


https://twitter.com/JasonMillerinDC/status/1400107239394906114

Good news: The Trump blog is already dead
Bad news: He's probably going somewhere more visible

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Dancedreamer
06/02/21 1:14:39 PM
#241:


FFDragon posted...
Bad news: He's probably going somewhere more visible

Probably not, I mean he's probably going to Frank.

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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/21 2:06:00 PM
#242:


https://twitter.com/pashulman/status/1400143392961708035?s=21



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NFUN
06/02/21 2:06:46 PM
#243:


lmao

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TotallyNotMI
06/02/21 2:32:54 PM
#244:


am I not getting that tweet since I don't know who any of those people are?

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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/21 2:39:38 PM
#245:


Yglesias is a huge liberal political writer that has always been suspect, but he left Vox for Substack and his brain broke.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/02/21 2:55:58 PM
#246:


Nah, I promise Matty Y has been this much of a dumb policy wonk numbers maniac since well before he left.

But yeah his other takes have been intensifying in hotness for sure

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Xeybozn
06/02/21 3:06:26 PM
#247:


Has Yglesias really changed his views that much? I don't follow him that closely (especially since he went to Substack), but he always seemed like he was only just barely left of Obama. The big difference is that the political spectrum has shifted such that his ideas have gone from "crazy radical leftist" to "mainstream Democratic consensus".
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HeroDelTiempo17
06/02/21 3:26:28 PM
#248:


Xeybozn posted...
Has Yglesias really changed his views that much? I don't follow him that closely (especially since he went to Substack), but he always seemed like he was only just barely left of Obama. The big difference is that the political spectrum has shifted such that his ideas have gone from "crazy radical leftist" to "mainstream Democratic consensus".

He's weird. Definitely left of center but during the primaries he did a lot more promo for Bernie and Warren. But his commitment to being a professional contrarian outweighs political affiliation and it's like you say. As more center-left policies go mainstream he's had to differentiate by proposing outlandish (but still decidedly liberal) policies like ONE BILLION AMERICANS or complaining about the "woke" left (ez money for independent journos). I'd say he's got more of a centrist veneer to him now.

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UshiromiyaEva
06/02/21 4:06:04 PM
#249:


Far be it from me to bring something sports politics related to the topic, but, um....

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1400162696478265344?s=19

what

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FFDragon
06/02/21 4:23:27 PM
#250:


lmao what the fuck

has their argument up to this point been "black people are naturally dumb we didn't break their brains" because if so holy fucking what

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ChaosTonyV4
06/02/21 4:27:24 PM
#251:


wHAT

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red13n
06/02/21 4:29:40 PM
#252:


FFDragon posted...
has their argument up to this point been "black people are naturally dumb we didn't break their brains" because if so holy fucking what
yes.

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Mr Lasastryke
06/02/21 4:31:32 PM
#253:


i didn't know muffin worked for the NFL

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