Board 8 > [VGMC] Day 4! Tartarus v DearDrgn, CIEL_PROTECT v SheepRaid7, Untamed v Foregone

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banshiryuu
05/13/21 10:00:00 PM
#1:


Who will be the big winner in this year's EXA_PICO bowl?










Welcome to Video Game Music Contest 15, an annual celebration of the best of the best video game music according to the voters!

Important Links:
Bracket: https://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=474630
Contest info sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16XAaBMDuUnQ4c5AxQNL9ZhvD7VG5kQyrXWWZxnkrn-o
Contest discussion thread: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79443554
Main bracket playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLT3m7iohpL0xt7lOF1eB-H4NpAaF1yAnU
Last years spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VNrPnFRI7nJ4PqFiURBW0NWqxvXiuasoq8Sn_O169ss
VGMC total stats sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1XdLWiUKB2kX99qYBgnRbLU_sCz4dvZSByKKJHCT6o
Discord: https://discord.gg/WDvMS4a

Rules:
- Listen to both songs in a given match, at least through the loop time provided (to make sure you don't skip before you've heard the whole thing!)
- Please consider the loop point listed when judging the song; if a video loops one minute 5 times, don't treat it as if it's a repetitive 5 minute song
- If it's a match between your favorite song ever and a song you despise, still LISTEN TO BOTH! Votes can and will be disqualified if there is suspicion songs are not being listened to, and you may be discounted for the rest of the contest for repeat offenses.
- No alt accounts, no rallying or begging, etc., etc.... You only get one vote! Swapping votes is alright, just make clear that you've already made a vote and are swapping.
- Make clear what your voting options are! Please keep votes separate from any comments, and use the titles given in the topic post.
- Voting in all matches is not mandatory, feel free to skip matches you do not wish to vote in.
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- Don't discuss vote tallies in this thread, or in other threads, as they may influence votes. Likewise, please refrain from looking at the running tally before voting.

Voting Period:
- Today's matches will last 24 hours from the time of posting, or 24 hours from 10pm Eastern, whichever is the later time.
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NFUN
05/13/21 10:00:03 PM
#2:


Dear Dragon
PROTECTA
Foregone Destruction

watson. This song is a mess in a lot of ways. Parts are incoherent, the mixing is questionable and some of the instruments don't sound in particularly high quality. It really should be a fair amount better than it is

korb. If there's one thing the Hades soundtrack excels at, it's making interesting riffs that get you into the song. And using "unconventional" rhythms to spice things up... If there are *two* things that the Hades soundtrack is good at, it's making interesting riffs and using cool theory stuff. It also sets a fantastic atmosphere. The *three* things Hades does right is riffs, theory, and atmosphere and energy. Four!.. I'll come in again

i like that the song is yelling at me to stop my blasphemous ways. that's the kind of lyrics i'm looking for. meanwhile sheep raider isnt saying anything at all to me what the fuck how am i supposed to know im supposed to vote for this

I hate the intro. Those stupid bells annoy me. And I really hate the part after that. The buzzing is alright, but the other stuff gives me the same falling feeling as dozing off when your head flops. The rest is solid. Pretty relaxing, not too interesting. There were a few songs I preferred when listening to the soundtrack, which I don't remember offhand. Not implying this was a bad choice

wow what the FUCK i am voting for one late 90s schmoody DnB song and not the other??? what in shit-kicking TARNATION??????


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Hbthebattle
05/13/21 10:02:43 PM
#3:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

100% oj gang represent
protecta's pretty cool. Track 7 would have been cooler, but it doesn't really do too much with its cool sound.
pmd gang represent


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Collen
05/13/21 10:10:24 PM
#4:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

Match 2 very cruel


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Raetsel_Lapin
05/13/21 10:11:34 PM
#5:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart
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Flamander
05/13/21 10:12:39 PM
#6:


Dear Dragon
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

very tough matchups for me. id vote for either for 2nd match or 3rd

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Nuggy
05/13/21 10:13:55 PM
#7:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart
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MargaretAnnMid
05/13/21 10:23:56 PM
#8:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction
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tgs2
05/13/21 10:24:25 PM
#9:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

Current mood #'s:
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA; [10]
Forgone Destruction [8.5]
Untamed Heart [8]
Out of Tartarus [7]
Track 7 [5.5]
Dear Dragon [5]

Ar nosurge Exa_Pico is nutso.

Match 3 is rough. First close match between really good songs. I think Forgone Destruction just has more going for it than the Klonoa track.
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Team Rocket Elite
05/13/21 10:29:26 PM
#10:


100% Orange Juice - Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star - Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile - Untamed Heart
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TheArkOfTurus
05/13/21 10:30:53 PM
#11:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

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DireKrow
05/13/21 10:32:14 PM
#12:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Foregone Destruction
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SpikeSetsFire
05/13/21 10:33:32 PM
#13:


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neothewoodman
05/13/21 10:36:30 PM
#14:


Out of Tartarus
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

no comments on this one i am too tired to write them, i will say that i ended up liking that looney toons track much more than i expected to going in. i like how licensed games with good music is a common theme
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xp1337
05/13/21 10:39:14 PM
#15:


100% Orange Juice - Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star - Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile - Untamed Heart

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DoctorJimmy133
05/13/21 10:49:05 PM
#16:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA
Foregone Destruction

I love the two-part structure of Tartarus. The first half sounds like the part of a movie trailer where everybody says cool shit while brandishing their weapons and the second half is where they're blowing down bad guys while continuing to say cool shit. Its opponent is also very good, though I do have a big pet peeve about fake-sounding pianos

Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA is the best thing so far hands down, and it gets better every time I listen to it. And its opponent is nice ambient-ish DnB thing I guess? I like the ugly electric keyboard chords. Sounds like album filler for a much better album though tbh

Every time I start listening to Untamed Heart I can't remember what it sounds like. Foregone Destruction is more up my alley. Sounds like Goldie album filler or something.

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Chaeix
05/13/21 10:49:30 PM
#17:


Dear Dragon
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

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Earthshaker
05/13/21 10:51:54 PM
#18:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Untamed Heart

100% OJ: Starting: is this a cyberspace bossfight? Am in a shmup section? And then suddenly, piano. That section is pretty nice, and the bassline contrasts it without taking away from it. Then the electronics start back up with the piano and I've kind of lost focus on the track, kind of like the piano player lost track of any sense of direction with the rest of the instruments. And yet, it doesn't sound like it lost the thread entirely? This song confuses without offending, and I was torn between "ehn" and liking it, but a relisten made me enjoy it. Hrm.
Hades: I haven't played Hades, and if I didn't know this was Hades off the bat, I would've claimed it was an early Borderlands track, except without Cage the Elephant. Which is just fine by me. Then ~3:00 hits, and it goes from Borderlands to Doom-lite. This is... okay, but it seems awfully repetitive for a long track?

CIEL: Anime opening/10, but somehow with my NOT usually liking that kind of thing, I'm a little into it? I especially appreciate the "computer vocal" parts, and the... is that a goto? Whatever that Japan-style harp/string instrument is. Plus the flute straight out of Okami. It's pretty okay!
Looney Tunes: Groovy-chill liquid D&B. Like a lot of things on this list, I enjoy it, which means it probably won't do well. I wish the drums were a teeny bit more in the forefront, and the melody itself varied a bit more.

Klonoa: Waking up from a pleasant dream only to find you have sleep paralysis and go back to the pleasant dream: the track.
UT: "Why have I heard this before? Oh yeah, sniped on a specific TF2 custom map." It's very much background music intended to not be focused on while you get shot at and die repeatedly, and as such, won't go anywhere far, if I had to wager. Pretty cool, though, but it loses out to Klonoa.

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banshiryuu
05/13/21 10:54:59 PM
#19:


Out of Tartarus (225th) vs Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker) (116th)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA; (8th) vs Track 7 (163rd)
Untamed Heart (212th) vs Foregone Destruction (117th)

DARREB KROB i remember hearing out of tartarus back when early access first started at the end of 2018 and i remember being SUPER impressed by it but now that I actually know a few songs from pyre/bastion and the entirety of transistor i'm kinda just "yeah this is cool" about it lol. it takes a bit too long to be "Whoa this is COOL" for me to rate it super highly, like when I start reeeally getting into it is when the theremin comes in at like 4:02. and even then it's about as much as I can get into this kinda style. dear dragon is really cool!! sonic is IN SPACE but also IN A SPACESHIP approaching the moon but here comes the alien warship... THE PIANO BREAK is where i realizee "oh yep this is watson this is why this song is so hot" looool, very very cool song and i can see myself liking it even more later in contest potentially

okay gonna go track 7 first here, this song is SO 90s for real pretty much every single sample used in this makes me very happy to be hearing, just in general the feel of it is super cool. i knew Of this game before vgmc but had never really listened to it, and this track definitely makes me want to check out the rest. .....unfortunately with CIEL_N_PROTECTA as an opponent, there's no chance I'd be voting for it ;;; this is like if you combined my literal two favorite exa_pico songs in exec_z and exsphere so like of COURSE i'm going to love the shit out of it lmfaooooo. all of the insane EVIL instrumentation from the latter but with the pop factor of the former and it works??? so well?????? HOW???? also the lyrics are like SUPER VOCABULARY that's an awful way to put it LMFAO but some of the words that are used I've never ever heard in another song like ever, maybe i just haven't been able to actually pay attention to japanese lyrics for very long (i haven't) but shit like jinsenpuu (dust devil) and just in general very... almost archaic grammar?? dowolf will probably be like "LOL WHAT are you talking about" but oh well yes i love song thank youb

I LOVE KLONOA MUSIC but untamed heart is a little too "composition specific technical" for me to really enjoy it i think??? like i'm just like okay this song exists until 1:01 i LOVE THOSE BELLS but everything else is just there to me so it hurts the song :( and it hurts me to hurt the song :( THE BEEEEES and the BEEEELLS whoa is that tracker music i hear??? music being in a tracker automatically makes me like it (percent)% more for absolutely no reason other than the method used to make it (not actually, just samples used in the way trackers do tend to sound WAY COOL to me and this song is no exception. multiple repetitive parts woooo mama thats what i LIKE, very good track I don't have much else to say about it, it's just really solid.
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MoonRunes
05/13/21 10:55:21 PM
#20:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

really getting me to vote against erhu hymmnos grrr
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azuarc
05/13/21 11:00:40 PM
#21:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

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DoctorJugaJuga
05/13/21 11:10:29 PM
#22:


Out of Tartarus
Track 7
Untamed Heart

Out of Tartarus is a banger through and through. Track 7 is so groovy. Untamed Heart is a more interesting than foregone. Dear Dragon is great but it doesn't get me as invested as Hades' riffs, and Protecta is relying on the vocals which I am unable to get too invested in.
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NFUN
05/13/21 11:11:01 PM
#23:


Earthshaker posted...
is that a goto?
reon 4213 doesn't have gotos

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quantumB
05/13/21 11:11:42 PM
#24:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Foregone Destruction
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pyresword
05/13/21 11:21:09 PM
#25:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction


I'm a bit lukewarm on the mood Out of Tartarus is trying to set, but it does such a good job setting that mood that I still like the song a fair amount anyways. Dear Dragon I didn't like much at first but the back two thirds or so turned out to be really cool. I especially like the part at 1:26 or so.

I don't know what a track like this is doing in a Looney Tunes game but ok. It's actually quite good. Gust vocals still gets the vote here but only barely as this is far from my favorite Gust song.

Untamed Heart seems like something I should like a lot on paper but I just don't. It feels too spontaneous and doesn't really work for me as a result. Foregone Destruction is pretty standard pleasant but unremarkable background music, which is easily enough for the vote in this match.
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tazzyboyishere
05/13/21 11:22:09 PM
#26:


Out of Tartarus
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

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UF8
05/13/21 11:26:42 PM
#27:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

watson vs doom (hades (darren korb)). do i really need to write anything here i think everyone knows which one i'm going to pick
track 7 is quite cool actually it's too bad it really just does one thing in its runtime since it definitely needed to do a maybe little bit more to compete with hymmnos (even if not the strongest in the contest)
foregone destruction definitely knew it didn't get the kindest matchup. untamed heart is wonderful and i love everything about and in it. truly foregone.
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HasteDeux
05/13/21 11:27:51 PM
#28:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

Out of Tartarus (7.6^ - 36th Place) / Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker) (8.8^ - 15th place)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA; (8.8 - 14th place) / Track 7 (8.6 - 21st place)
Untamed Heart (9.2 - 11th place) / Foregone Destruction (7.4 - 38th place)

Good music today, though not quite like yesterday's. Really close second match....I hope Track 7 doesn't get crushed. Don't feel like commenting much, but 1:42 in Untamed Heart is fantastic (what a way to combined triplets with dotted quarters)!

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dowolf
05/13/21 11:38:04 PM
#29:


out of tartar sauce
class: protector of the world
untamed heartiness

songs came presorted today
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PabloSmith
05/13/21 11:38:06 PM
#30:


Out of Tartarus
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

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cakophon
05/13/21 11:47:04 PM
#31:


Out of
Class:
Destruction

first and third matches very close they are all overlapping in my rankings rn also ill start posting these

Final Fantasy VII Remake | Collapsed Expressway
Rose Gun Days | linkage-alter
Drakengard | Twelfth Chapter ~ In the Sky
Risk of Rain 2 | The Rain Formerly Known As Purple
Hades | Out of Tartarus
Unreal Tournament | Foregone Destruction
100% Orange Juice | Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile | Untamed Heart
Mighty Switch Force! 2 | Soft Collision
Ar nosurge: Ode to an Unborn Star | Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure | Soaring Through Azure Sadness
Kaze no Notam | Discovery
Looney Tunes: Sheep Raider | Track 7
Mad Rat Dead | Heartless Being
Sonic Colors | Planet Wisp (Act 1)
Cook, Serve, Delicious! 3?! | It's Dangerous to Go Alone
Mr. Bones | The First Thing
Touhou 14.5: Urban Legend in Limbo | Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Pokmon Gold and Silver | National Park
Etrian Odyssey III: The Drowned City | Labyrinth VI - The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss
Mega Man 11 | Fuse Man Stage
Atelier Meruru: The Apprentice of Arland | Nefertiti (Ver.MMXI)
Tales of Vesperia | Fury Sparks

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HBJDubs
05/13/21 11:47:04 PM
#32:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

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Snake5555555555
05/13/21 11:52:30 PM
#33:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

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kamakazikila
05/13/21 11:55:08 PM
#34:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

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Mac Arrowny
05/14/21 12:41:07 AM
#35:


First two are a bit middle of the road, but OoT is probably a bit more my style.

Ciel has a lot of stuff to it that I like. Some stuff I don't like too, as is common with Nosurge songs (as opposed to AT songs), but this is one of the better Nosurge's I've heard. Sheep raider feels more like an 0:16 loop than a 1:16 loop...

Untamed Heart feels like a total nothing of a song. Foregone Destruction isn't exactly something I'd usually want to listen to on its own, but its reasonably enjoyable.

Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA; > Out of Tartarus > Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker) > Foregone Destruction > Untamed Heart > Track 7
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KCF0107
05/14/21 12:58:15 AM
#36:


Out
Class
Destruction
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PIayer_0
05/14/21 1:05:46 AM
#37:


It's a day of VGMC debuts for all the games represented today! Except Ar nosurge of course, you could very much replace all 6 songs including CIEL with 6 more Ar nosurge songs from past contests. Fun!

Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

And today's lucky song is...*drum roll*...*cymbal hits* *double kick* *ba-dum tss* Foregone Destruction! I had my eye on this one during noms, man what a chill track...except it's not! Sure it's atmospheric, but the atmosphere is one of motion, activity, and intrigue! I'd looove to be dropped into some abandoned factory or sci-fi facility where I can just climb equipment, pull levers, and pick up tools to this song. Maybe in some old-school FPS with split-screen multiplayer mode. Also love that the low kick at 2:17 totally recontextualizes the beat, gets me every time! UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE

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Earthshaker
05/14/21 1:12:46 AM
#38:


NFUN posted...
reon 4213 doesn't have gotos
Perhaps a shamisen then. Whatever it is. Some weird harp/mandolin/guitar noise.

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NFUN
05/14/21 1:17:40 AM
#39:


Earthshaker posted...
Perhaps a shamisen then. Whatever it is. Some weird harp/mandolin/guitar noise.
i don't think those are used to control program flow

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HidekuniHorita
05/14/21 1:18:14 AM
#40:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Untamed Heart

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PIayer_0
05/14/21 1:18:17 AM
#41:


As a computer science graduate and an average music enjoyer, this conversation hurts my brain. Was goto somehow not referring to the programming statement??? Did Isquen mean koto??? Do people call this the "goto"??? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taish%C5%8Dgoto

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FL81
05/14/21 1:19:12 AM
#42:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

Out of Tartarus has a generic guitar rock riff, and that's it? Kinda has that shovelware racing game menu vibe, ehhh sorry but I do not like this!! Now a lot of the 100% OJ music I've not been entirely impressed with either, it seems for a lot of it, they just slap in some short electronic melody loop for the characters' themes and call it a day. Dear Dragon OTOH I actually really quite like! It manages to feel like a much more "complete" song than its longer opponent. I did not know this was by watson either!! Loving the groovy jazz piano with the electronic beat.

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I've been listening to a bunch of "fake Ar Tonelico music" albums lately (by Morrigan nonetheless) and several of the songs are copying the style of this exact song lol. My favorite part of CIEL_N_PROTECTA; is when it does those abrupt pauses. Pretty standard EXA_PICO, but it delivers. Track 7 is pretty cool too, another repetitive song, but "good repetitive". It's a bit outclassed here though.

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Okay, so both of these songs actually give me a very similar feeling, in both are very calm atmospheric tracks. So, Untamed Heart is weird in that the bells in the beginning make me think it's going to be a Pokmon legendary battle theme, but instead it transitions into a peaceful Pokmon town theme instead. This is actually super relaxing. Next is yet another DnB song. Okay, so like what's with today's theme of every second song being some chill DnB/jazzstep/whatever song? Not complaining, but a lot of today's material has very similar vibes. Both of these I'd rate basically the same score (actually this is the first match where I'm going against my faves pick)

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tennisboy213
05/14/21 1:38:27 AM
#43:


Out of Tartarus
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

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barreldragon88
05/14/21 1:52:55 AM
#44:


Hades - Out of Tartarus
Looney Tunes: Sheep Raider - Track 7
Unreal Tournament - Foregone Destruction

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kaonashi1
05/14/21 2:02:49 AM
#45:


Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

I've started games for a few different reasons, but Hades was definitely the first game I started for "vgmgg research purposes." (It wasn't even specifically to use the music in the guessing game!) I'd heard this track before, and enjoyed it, but when I first heard the second half of it in-game-- during a Tartarus mini-boss door fight-- I got really hype. It's grown on me a lot ever since.

Out of Tartarus, like a lot of Hades music, sets up its mood flawlessly. The guitar mirrors the sort of casual, almost arrogant poise of Zagreus in the first half, and his capacity for violence in the second. There's a sort of darkly exotic feel expressed by the way the guitar uses the diminished fifth relative to the tonic, and the way it uses that specific note is maybe my favourite part of the track. The main riff is catchy but also kept really interesting by both its 4+4+4+3+6 rhythmic structure (this is how I hear it) and the way there's always variations on the last 6. I think the little synth beeps in the first half are a wonderful detail too. Just a really cool track and one of my favourites from this game.

Every time 1:21 hits in Dear Dragon I halfway expect it to turn into the second half of Downtown Jazz from Tetris Effect. It doesn't do that, but it still does some really neat stuff. It's that and the four-note high synth loop that stick with me the most in this very fun track. The buildup to the first section at 0:28 is well-done, and the floaty feel of 0:55 is great. If there's one part I'm kinda down on, it's the last third of the track, which doesn't stick with me quite as much.

The code-chanting choir is invariably my favourite part of CIEL_N_PROTECTA; the Japanese vocals follow a more straightforward (though not unpleasant) progression. That part is nice enough, but it's not specifically what intrigues me about hymmnos. The erhu's pretty great, though.

Track 7 knows what it wants to be-- some pretty chill drum'n'bass. And it's pretty successful at doing just that, though I think I'd enjoy it more as part of a longer mix of dnb vgm, maybe! It feels a bit slight as a standalone track.

Untamed Heart feels like drifting into an afternoon nap in the sun. That sounds unflattering-- it's a track that reminds me of sleeping-- but it's very pretty and idyllic, like memories of a happier time; a lazy afternoon without worry. There are musical details that keep me attentive-- I'd be much less engaged if I thought it was compositionally boring-- but it's that image and sentiment that sticks with me and moves me when I listen to this.

Foregone Destruction has one of those darned synth ostinatos that I find pretty catchy. The dnb here feels a bit more polished than in Track 7, and I think I enjoy it more overall, with some variations and synth melodies that build on its starting premise.
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Toxtricity
05/14/21 3:06:22 AM
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Out of Tartarus
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

-(o hey look it's a song in an "odd time signature", this is in "21" (i feel this as 7+8+6, usually not further broken down than that with any sort of specification, especially as the groupings of 3vs2 within them change, particularly 3+3 vs 2+2+2 in the 6 bit). actually i always feel like 21 is an underutilized container when it comes to odd time stuff. because the mixture of potential to feel it as 7 groups of 3 vs 3 groups of 7 has such high potential. this doesn't actually do that but it has the FEEL of as if it would do that that i think naturally forms itself with anything like this that touches 7-ness in a 21 container at all. I should like this way more because it's prog metal edgy song and that is a thing i act like i like a lot, but i wish it had more to it. still, this is actually boosted because of recent inclinations, when i'm in a mood to focus on guitars, this is the sort of thing that i want, and me wanting guitars seems to be more often than usual lately)-

-[this song does EVERYTTHING i want a song to do at the same time just like watson usually does; big jazz piano man on top of edm-esque elements. super monkey ball chords (oh no i have to have acquired "complex feelings about super monkey ball" now) anyways i absolutely love this type of music. the almost sloppy feeling layering of these two contrasting styles, especially with how squishy and organic these synths are, is a really interesting atmosphere; something even other watson music doesn't quite hit. this, of all things, actually specifically reminds me of NORIO HANZAWA but that is mainly for the desynchronization, but he does have some uncharacteristically jazzy+edm elements stuff that is maybe the closest i can think of to something hitting this exact feeling]-

-{this match is like, actually hard, and i will consider changing my vote later. mean this more intensely than usual. tartarus does one thing i like, Really Well. and dear dragon does 10 things i like, slightly less well}-

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-(uh oh watch out!!! it's the girl singing programing language song!!! The rhythmic REON-4213 chanting bits are my favorite parts here, the repeating rhythms all stabbing me with the same chord every syllable, only changing the chord after there have been a lot of syllables. well i just think it's a cool feeling vocal style, very. I've noticed during noms and bracket making that i find this actually one of the least "memorable" ar tonelico series vocal themes. but when i actually listen to the song, i think the song i'm JAMMING TO THE BIG ANCIENT TREES and am confused how my memory of the song gets erased immediately after because i am so into the song while it's playing. I better keep typing a lot of words as i am listening!!! time's running out! Oh no the song is going to end and i'm going to immediately forget what i sounds like but I can tell you i am enjoying what i am hearing RIGHT NOW ok song is done bye : ( sad. . . .i wanted to listen to it more, and i don't remember what it sounds like anymore *presses replay*)-

-[i love this style in general, this is an example of a song where i notice i actually find specific odd samples or /timbres/ to be "catchy", which is STRANGE EXPERIENCE, like that chord that pops in at :01/:06 is the most memorable bit of this track to me. the pan flutey thing does a lot for me too. all the echoy stuff is a fun treat. and i always like the mix of big jazz chords into electronic music. definitely a category of song i typically like. one of the strengths is how natural it is for interesting sample-based stuff to occur in it, which this is pretty full of]-

-{i am so sorry to the jungle and drum and base fans today}-

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-(i am putting all of my positive emotional energy into klonoa right now while i still can, time is running ouI LOVE DELAY ECHOES THAT ARE TIMED WEIRD and it's all "gamebop"'s fault for getting me into puchi carat/yasuhisa watanabe in 2008 even though he had no clue how much i would get into it compared to his imagination. the sound design on this song is basically perfect. one of the most inspirational songs to me in that regard, especially everything crystally in timbre. those constant 16ths that come in at 1:00 are AHHHHHHHHHH. basically every sound i think is cool, one thing that's extra cool to me, just from the perspective of "old synths from the 90s nerd" is how many of the synths here being used are actually ones more typically associated with lower production values, like the roland sc stuff; but this uses it so masterfully, especially in the drums, you would never be able to tell these are basically the same sounds as "msgs midi just like 'evenk' in this contest" (i have just offended every sc-55 owner). I think imura always impresses me the most on that front. no matter what synths she is using, she knows how to make them sound beautiful like a shiny fortress made out oI LOVE KLONOAf amethyst except it is blue and iridescent roland jd-800 looks like a spaceship it is probably the coolest looking synthesizer out there i love the 90s)-

-[a different flavor of the 90s entirely. much more aggressive and breakbeat heavy and DARK. this actually gives me vibes of NeoTokyo which maybe shouldn't be too surprising. because i associate neotokyo with deus ex, and...hahaha...hahah...what could unreal tournament POSSIBLY Have to do with deus ex HMMMMM. this gets my CYBERPUNK energy engaged for that reason. I LOVE The looping echoy synth that plays every 5 seconds from the start. if this song were just the first 5 seconds over and over and nothing else in the song i would probably like it equally as much, that is how important that bit is to me here. sets the tone soo hard i immediately perceive sad neon lights attached to dystopian buildings in the bad future. i like that vibe, a lot]-

-{i will always love klonoa, even when klonoa transforms into the dark symbol of self-loathing, the morbid symbol of questioning my own worth; klonoa will always be there to remind me how important every emotion is, and how important it is to never pretend a given emotion is not there. i like guntz because he has guns and that is edgy just like shadow the hedgehog. i like popka because he is an audacious rascal with very unconventional eyes. i like king of sorrow because he is teal and sad and his theme song has cool backwards sounds in it. but most of all, i like "eric persing's overwhelming influence"}-

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linkage-alter
Twelfth Chapter ~ In the Sky

3. Untamed Heart
Collapsed Expressway
The First Thing
Soaring Through Azure Sadness
Planet Wisp (Act 1)

8. Out of Tartarus
9. Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)

Labyrinth VI - The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss
Discovery

12. Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Soft Collision
14. Foregone Destruction
It's Dangerous to Go Alone
Heartless Being
The Heritors of Arcadia

18. Track 7
National Park
The Rain Formerly Known As Purple
Fuse Man Stage
Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke
Nefertiti (Ver.MMXI)
Fury Sparks


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R-Man
05/14/21 4:24:30 AM
#47:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Untamed Heart

Wow. And here I was so sure I'd be voting for Hades. Unfortunately for this particular song, it went up against some really nice prog fusion which is totally my thing. Will have to look more into 100% oj later cause that slapped.

The second round was so easy I almost feel bad.

Third round was a tough call. I don't have strong feelings about either of these tracks but I don't like on a lot more than the other. However, I'm a big fan of some of the chord changes in the Klonoa song so that gets my vote.
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Toxtricity
05/14/21 4:35:24 AM
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R-Man posted...

Wow. And here I was so sure I'd be voting for Hades. Unfortunately for this particular song, it went up against some really nice prog fusion which is totally my thing. Will have to look more into 100% oj later cause that slapped.

you'll probably have better luck looking up the specific composer of that track, watson. 100% oj is comprised of a bunch of royalty free stuff from various sources

here's his yt channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQuMmwxT25MPI1E0YXwARhA/videos

most notable on there, the Murasaki Tsurugi ost, which has a track coming up later in this contest (Speartip of Judgement)
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GameBopAdv
05/14/21 5:12:50 AM
#49:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Track 7
Foregone Destruction

oh boy one of my nominations day. Dear dragon is a really cool song that I discovered from a totally unrelated game. I love the chaotic energy in the mixture of the three differing elements with the digital beeps, the aggressive guitar, and the playful piano. Very Fun! On the other side I briefly marked down Out of Tartarus in my support considerations late into nominations but I feel like my feelings towards the song have weakened since then, not that it stood much of a chance at getting my vote against Dear Demoncrawl (Theme of Glass) today

Man, to be honest, for the first 30 seconds of Protecta, I thought "Wow, this actually isn't that bad, I might actually kinda like this??" but then the -real- singing started and my rating of the song absolutely nose-dived into what I was expecting. Track 7 is cool and it stays cool.

Untamed heart has got some real neat digital aesthetic bits but it is ultimately waay too peaceful for me. Foregone Destruction is a song I will always associate with something silly that used the first 11 seconds of it. I wonder how my opinion of the song would change if I did not have that locked into my brain. As it is it feels a bit plain & repetitive, but the main repeating loop does still have this neat otherworldly feel to it that I will take over peace.

Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker) > Track 7 > Foregone Destruction > Untamed Heart > Out of Tartarus > Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;

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Janus5k
05/14/21 5:31:10 AM
#50:


Dear Dragon (Theme of Sweet Breaker)
Class::CIEL_N_PROTECTA;
Foregone Destruction

Dear Dragon is pretty cool. Was a nice surprise from filling out the bracket.

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