Current Events > CDC says fully vaccinated people don't have to wear masks no more

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DarthAragorn
05/13/21 9:26:04 PM
#101:


karmageddon28 posted...
I don't think it's so much disagreeing with what the CDC is saying, as much as doubting the unvaccinated to actually follow it.

Do you believe the unvaccinated will start or continue to wear masks as the CDC is saying?
This. If it were only the vaccinated not wearing masks, I'd be fine with this.

It won't be. Every unvaccinated asshole will use this as an excuse to not wear a mask ever again
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SothaSil
05/13/21 9:26:49 PM
#102:


DarthAragorn posted...
It won't be. Every unvaccinated a****** will use this as an excuse to not wear a mask ever again
They will, but how long are you going to keep wearing one to accomodate people who will never get vaccinated? And Fauci said today that if you're vaccinated you don't need to be worried about people around you who aren't.

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RetsuZaiZen
05/14/21 9:21:14 AM
#103:


Fucking hell

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Tyranthraxus
05/14/21 9:27:05 AM
#104:


Vermander posted...
Real talk, what percentage of vaccinated folks is covid actually having a significant impact on?

One state reported 156 severe cases or deaths in over 1.6 million vaccinated people.

I might have the numbers wrong sightly but your chances with the vaccine are really good.

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uwa ej
05/14/21 9:30:07 AM
#105:


SothaSil posted...
They will, but how long are you going to keep wearing one to accomodate people who will never get vaccinated? And Fauci said today that if you're vaccinated you don't need to be worried about people around you who aren't.
This will change, imo. The rate of breakthrough cases will continue to increase. The Indian variant is especially of concern.
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Tyranthraxus
05/14/21 9:31:21 AM
#106:


DarthAragorn posted...
This. If it were only the vaccinated not wearing masks, I'd be fine with this.

It won't be. Every unvaccinated asshole will use this as an excuse to not wear a mask ever again

The article says it basically doesn't matter if you're around unvaccinated people. The "except in certain circumstances" are for immune compromised people.

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TheHoldSteady
05/14/21 9:34:13 AM
#107:


uwa ej posted...
This will change, imo. The rate of breakthrough cases will continue to increase. The Indian variant is especially of concern.

India has an extremely low vaccination rate so I don't see the concern

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JBaLLEN66
05/14/21 9:37:50 AM
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Why are people still wearing masks?!!

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RetsuZaiZen
05/14/21 10:42:14 AM
#110:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I like how some people didnt listen completely to the CDC originally regarding masks, then distrusted them, and now believe them 100%.
Exactly

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III-URBAN-III
05/14/21 11:33:04 AM
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Scenario.

They have found a complete cure for covid, the only downside is it must be injected into your testicle.

Do you do it?

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hockeybub89
05/14/21 11:35:17 AM
#112:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
Why are people still wearing masks?!!
Because they are too stupid to get vaccinated

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Will_VIIII
05/14/21 11:36:27 AM
#113:


JBaLLEN66 posted...
Why are people still wearing masks?!!
The guideline is if everyone is vaccinated.

That's not going to be the case at a grocery store, restaurant etc because of people like you who are refusing to get vaccinated.

Thanks for the variants btw

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hockeybub89
05/14/21 11:55:15 AM
#114:


It's just so irresponsible by the CDC. Vaccines aren't even out for full availability yet and you're telling everyone without one that they don't need to get it now. I know it's just advice, but anti-vaxxers are going to completely ignore any local or business mandates and flip even more shit if those policies are enforced by putting on an act. Good luck bringing back masks in the future or requiring vaccination proof if you realize how foolish trusting human beings to be honest is.

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Will_VIIII
05/14/21 12:15:45 PM
#115:


hockeybub89 posted...
It's just so irresponsible by the CDC. Vaccines aren't even out for full availability yet and you're telling everyone without one that they don't need to get it now. I know it's just advice, but anti-vaxxers are going to completely ignore any local or business mandates and flip even more shit if those policies are enforced by putting on an act. Good luck bringing back masks in the future or requiring vaccination proof if you realize how foolish trusting human beings to be honest is.
I think you're misinterpreting what they said.

Fully vaccinated people can be around other fully vaccinated people without masks or keeping 6 feet apart indoors or outdoors. This is simply a matter of fact true statement.

This doesn't mean this is what we'll observed in stores and restaurants.


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hockeybub89
05/14/21 12:17:24 PM
#116:


Will_VIIII posted...
I think you're misinterpreting what they said.

Fully vaccinated people can be around other fully vaccinated people without masks or keeping 6 feet apart indoors or outdoors. This is simply a matter of fact true statement.

This doesn't mean this is what we'll observed in stores and restaurants.
They're oblivious idiots if they don't see the effect them saying this will have. What everyone just heard is "Throw away your masks. The pandemic is over."

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Will_VIIII
05/14/21 12:23:37 PM
#117:


They probably did know this, but I believe it still needs to be separated as they're simply reporting matter of fact, and withholding information would just justify the conspiracy nuts.

It's really a damned if you do damned if you don't IMO. I'm sure we'll see signs that say if you're not wearing a mask we'll assume you're vaccinated, or some equivalent.

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ThirstForBLOOD
05/14/21 12:24:45 PM
#118:


III-URBAN-III posted...
Scenario.

They have found a complete cure for covid, the only downside is it must be injected into your testicle.

Do you do it?

If they can put me under for it
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hockeybub89
05/14/21 12:30:57 PM
#119:


Will_VIIII posted...
I'm sure we'll see signs that say if you're not wearing a mask we'll assume you're vaccinated, or some equivalent.
Anti-vaxxers: "Sweet! I can lie without even saying it."

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Will_VIIII
05/14/21 12:37:48 PM
#120:


hockeybub89 posted...
Anti-vaxxers: "Sweet! I can lie without even saying it."


Right. I will still mask up when getting groceries and will still get takeout but at least I'm good having friends and family over at my place.

Gym membership will probably be a thing of the past for me

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WingsOfGood
05/14/21 12:39:43 PM
#121:


Bye bye covid
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EnterTheTekken
05/14/21 1:57:08 PM
#122:


So the CDC Director, Rochelle Walensky, said about a month ago that she has "a feeling of impending doom" and that we shouldn't "act as if the pandemic is over."

So the CDC somehow obtained enough data and results from studies within that time period to shift from "impending doom" to taking off masks in certain circumstances?

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Mizznox
05/14/21 2:11:49 PM
#123:


EnterTheTekken posted...
So the CDC Director, Rochelle Walensky, said about a month ago that she has "a feeling of impending doom" and that we shouldn't "act as if the pandemic is over."

So the CDC somehow obtained enough data and results from studies within that time period to shift from "impending doom" to taking off masks in certain circumstances?

She said that - also saying she was going "off script" in doing so - as new cases had risen by about 15% (by 7-day averages) in a span of about 10 days, right after places like Italy and Germany had just seen significant spikes.

New cases have now tanked by about 50% in the past month.
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PesticideDream
05/14/21 2:40:31 PM
#124:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I like how some people didnt listen completely to the CDC originally regarding masks, then distrusted them, and now believe them 100%.

Or, inversely, people who have gone from "trust scientists and doctors who have very little data on this 100%" to "I don't think I trust these scientists and doctors even though they're spewing all of this data and research cause I want to wear my mask forever and look like a ninja".

I don't know who is more annoying and anti-science at this point, anti-vaxxers or forever-doomers. Continuing with this "even if you get the vaccine, nothing changes and you'll still get sick" mentality is what encourages people to NOT get the vaccine, you dopes.
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voldothegr8
05/14/21 2:56:32 PM
#125:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I like how some people didnt listen completely to the CDC originally regarding masks, then distrusted them, and now believe them 100%.

I like how some people completely listened to the CDC originally regarding wearing masks, then trusted them 100%, and now do not believe in them at all.
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WingsOfGood
05/14/21 3:02:23 PM
#127:


EnterTheTekken posted...
So the CDC Director, Rochelle Walensky, said about a month ago that she has "a feeling of impending doom" and that we shouldn't "act as if the pandemic is over."

So the CDC somehow obtained enough data and results from studies within that time period to shift from "impending doom" to taking off masks in certain circumstances?


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Autocraticus
05/14/21 3:08:40 PM
#128:


I'm vaxxed.

Goodbye, mask.
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wesastro911
05/14/21 3:14:17 PM
#129:


I'm sorry, it's easy to be a forever-doomer when living in the country that has suffered the most deaths from covid. When so many people are still not vaccinated. When so many people voted for someone who was actively undermining democracy and made mask wearing a political division in the first place. When there are variances that can be created that vaccines might not be able to fight off as well in future.

Just look at Japan who had a culture of mask wearing before pandemic. Japanese people wear masks in public when they are sick because it's the right thing to do for people around them. Japan doesn't have as many people vaccinated by percentage. Guess what though, they are still wearing their masks. Of developed countries Japan did one of the best taking in account its population. They also have one of the highest life expectancies and lowest crime rates.

Sorry if I would rather look to Japan for guidance. I'll be personally wearing my mask as a fully vaccinated person.
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Bleuets
05/14/21 3:23:37 PM
#130:


wesastro911 posted...
I'm sorry, it's easy to be a forever-doomer when living in the country that has suffered the most deaths from covid. When so many people are still not vaccinated. When so many people voted for someone who was actively undermining democracy and made mask wearing a political division in the first place. When there are variances that can be created that vaccines might not be able to fight off as well in future.

Just look at Japan who had a culture of mask wearing before pandemic. Japanese people wear masks in public when they are sick because it's the right thing to do for people around them. Japan doesn't have as many people vaccinated by percentage. Guess what though, they are still wearing their masks. Of developed countries Japan did one of the best taking in account its population. They also have one of the highest life expectancies and lowest crime rates.

Sorry if I would rather look to Japan for guidance. I'll be personally wearing my mask as a fully vaccinated person.

I mean, you said Japan doesnt have the same amount of people vaccinated as the US so of course it makes sense they are still wearing masks. CDC is full of expertise and science, I dont think you randomly following another country is a wise decision.

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jackgunney
05/14/21 3:49:27 PM
#131:


Veggeta X posted...
How so. Mask triggers a lot of repubs
In my experience being forced to wear masks triggers repubs, they don't care if dems wear one by choice.

Source: I work at a factory full of repubs.

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SamuelLJackdson
05/14/21 5:14:22 PM
#132:


Are businesses just going to go on the honor system for vaccination status with masks?

Some local places near me are dropping the mask mandate for vaccinated people but I dont see anything about requiring proof of vaccination for that. Feels like this is a mistake.
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EricDraven59
05/14/21 5:19:21 PM
#133:


Taking bets, how many anti vaxxers will now pretend to be vaccinated?
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Smashingpmkns
05/14/21 5:55:25 PM
#135:


I think it's unsafe to trust people to be honest when we started off this pandemic with people printing off fake mask exemption cards.
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ShadowElite86
05/14/21 8:10:57 PM
#136:


Nah, I'm good. Can't say I'll she'd a year when these stupid mother fuckers start dying off in the next month.

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Big_Nabendu
05/14/21 8:38:04 PM
#137:


well there goes more of the population

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Will_VIIII
05/15/21 1:22:21 PM
#138:


Big_Nabendu posted...
well there goes more of the population

Well its only 25% or so outright refusing a vaccine and generally refusing a mask too.

And, they're overwhelmingly MAGAs.

so

ShadowElite86 posted...
Can't say I'll shed a tear when these stupid mother fuckers start dying off in the next month.


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Laserion
05/16/21 11:36:31 AM
#139:


Because not wearing a mask while unvaccinated hurts the population by spreading it more.
But I don't see the harm in wearing a mask for a bit longer while already vaccinated, until the situation gets better.

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TheRealDill2K
05/16/21 11:39:43 AM
#140:


This is long overdue
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DUKLegend
05/16/21 11:47:19 AM
#141:


Look at it the way I do. I go to my local park to exercise every morning and wear the mask. The main reason? To block allergens. Maybe we don't fear catching the COVID, but fuck allergies. Masks do actually help filter those allergens.
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EnterTheTekken
05/16/21 1:52:38 PM
#142:


All those masks, gloves, plastic shields and partitions, ground markers, signage, etc is all going to get thrown out and into the ocean.

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Bleuets
05/16/21 1:55:02 PM
#143:


Laserion posted...
Because not wearing a mask while unvaccinated hurts the population by spreading it more.
But I don't see the harm in wearing a mask for a bit longer while already vaccinated, until the situation gets better.

It spreads it to unvaccinated, but not to the vaccinated. You wearing a mask does not help at all. It neither protects you (the vaccine does that) nor protects others (if you're vaccinated CDC says you have such a low chance of getting the virus that wearing a mask is not necessary).

So truly, by wearing a mask as a vaccinated person, according to the CDC, you are not helping prevent the spread of the virus in any way, shape, or form.
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ShadowElite86
05/16/21 2:57:54 PM
#144:


So far all of the businesses that I've gone to since the new mask policy has been in place are still requiring them, with the exception of Walmart. I'll make sure to only go to that dump at night if I really have to shop there.

Edit: Quick Trip employees didn't have masks on either and were spewing incorrect information by stating that no one had to wear masks anymore, vaxxed or not.

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HBOSS
05/16/21 5:53:31 PM
#145:


Mask off
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Cobra1010
05/16/21 5:59:49 PM
#146:


Can someone clear this up for me. So if you get a vaccine that says 70% effective and 99% protection against serious symptoms.

That means you can still catch covid with the remaining 30% (even though you won't get the life threatening symptoms) and can pass on to unvaccinated (allergic) people?

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Cuticrusader09
05/16/21 6:01:51 PM
#147:


ShadowElite86 posted...
Nah, I'm good. Can't say I'll she'd a year when these stupid mother fuckers start dying off in the next month.

You do realize that the vast majority of people dont die of it, right?
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rodu_jr
05/16/21 6:06:46 PM
#148:


Cobra1010 posted...
Can someone clear this up for me. So if you get a vaccine that says 70% effective and 99% protection against serious symptoms.

That means you can still catch covid with the remaining 30% (even though you won't get the life threatening symptoms) and can pass on to unvaccinated (allergic) people?
sounds like
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ShadowElite86
05/17/21 11:12:02 AM
#149:


Cuticrusader09 posted...
You do realize that the vast majority of people dont die of it, right?
STFU

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hockeybub89
05/17/21 11:17:15 AM
#150:


Cuticrusader09 posted...
You do realize that the vast majority of people dont die of it, right?
The vast majority of disease don't kill apocalyptic numbers of people, so diseases aren't so bad. Besides, everyone knows a disease can only kill you or ignore you. There is no such thing as overwhelming hospitals or incapacitating people for a period of time.

/s

A pandemic that caused tens of millions of people to get a week of explosive diarrhea would be bad news.

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