Current Events > Mikayla Miller, 16, black and gay. Beaten by 5 white kids. Suicide?

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Agnostic420
05/08/21 7:53:54 AM
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/heartbroken-massachusetts-mom-begs-justice-teen-daughter-s-mysterious-death-n1266629

so she was beatin by 5 white kids In Massachusetts. And she was found hanging later that day and so far its been ruled a suicide. Pending autopsy I guess.

so they want me to believe that a black girl in Massachusetts just killed herself after being assaulted by 5 white people?

cmon.

When will it end?

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RedJackson
05/08/21 7:56:28 AM
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Agnostic420 posted...
so they want me to believe that a black girl in Massachusetts just killed herself after being assaulted by 5 white people?

I dont want to believe it myself tbh, I actually dont wanna believe this person is gone period

Fucked up

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Zikten
05/08/21 7:58:07 AM
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I dont know what is more disturbing, that lynching black people is back, or that they keep ruling them as suicides
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Southernfatman
05/08/21 8:03:42 AM
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Our courts and law enforcement systems are infested with hard right wingers so they always try to downplay acts of bigotry.

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toyota
05/08/21 8:04:57 AM
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How do you know they were white? And why did you feel to mention that the perpetrators were supposedly white? The article said nothing about it.

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Slayer_22
05/08/21 8:07:36 AM
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I'd wait for the autopsy. Depression can make people do bad things, and being assaulted could have led to something awful like this.. Best not to jump to conclusions.

That being said, the 5 scumbags who assaulted her(7? Unless those 2 mentioned earlier are with the original 5?) should be locked away. Idk how shit like that is tolerated. Hopefully someone beats the everloving shut out of them in kind. But I doubt that'll happen, knowing how life goes.
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nemu
05/08/21 8:13:40 AM
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It being near her home lends more credence to it simply being a horrible consequence of depression furthered by the horrific actions of the assailants, but it's also not impossible she was lured out and murdered.
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Akagami_Shanks
05/08/21 8:16:53 AM
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toyota posted...
How do you know they were white? And why did you feel to mention that the perpetrators were supposedly white? The article said nothing about it.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-investigate-my-daughters-death

says 5 white teens

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Slayer_22
05/08/21 8:17:03 AM
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nemu posted...
It being near her home lends more credence to it simply being a horrible consequence of depression furthered by the horrific actions of the assailants, but it's also not impossible she was lured out and murdered.

Could go either way. It wouldn't be too difficult to find marks of a struggle, especially with 5 people. I don't care who you are, you are NOT getting into a situation like that looking all the better. An autopsy would find at least some injuries. HOPEFULLY, though, they find some skin under the nails. Then those fuckers are quite screwed.
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Lorenzo_2003
05/08/21 8:18:03 AM
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The investigation continues, and the cause and manner of death will be determined by the state medical examiner's office. A spokesman for the office said Thursday that 96 percent of autopsy reports and death certificates, which can include toxicology and other specialized tests, are completed in less than 90 days.

This is really important. The police should shut the hell up, until the examiner does whats needed.

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/08/21 8:35:51 AM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/please-help-investigate-my-daughters-death

says 5 white teens
Person youre quoting though is absolutely correct. The article doesnt mention white kids, heck, the article doesnt mention one thing about the fight beforehand.

a go fund me page isnt really a good thing to link for proof

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Vicious_Dios
05/08/21 8:38:44 AM
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See this?:

Southernfatman posted...
Our courts and law enforcement systems are infested with hard right wingers so they always try to downplay acts of bigotry.

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People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.

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Alucard188
05/08/21 8:39:37 AM
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Zikten posted...
I dont know what is more disturbing, that lynching black people is back, or that they keep ruling them as suicides

It's been going on for a long fucking time. I'm surprised it's still going on.

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Akagami_Shanks
05/08/21 8:40:28 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Person youre quoting though is absolutely correct. The article doesnt mention white kids, heck, the article doesnt mention one thing about the fight beforehand.

a go fund me page isnt really a good thing to link for proof
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/07/ metro/heres-what-we-know-do-not-know-about-death-mikayla-miller/
its contested, but what isn't disputed is that one of the teens is white, and that there was an altercation beforehand

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pinky0926
05/08/21 8:40:35 AM
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If you told me this happened in 1922 I'd still be shocked.

Some of those that work forces, etc.

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/08/21 8:42:22 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.
And on this site thats called trolling. Or at least for me its called trolling, everyone else gets a high five and immunity when they do it.

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Southernfatman
05/08/21 8:43:48 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
See this?:

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People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.

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Oshawottownage
05/08/21 8:44:14 AM
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Its believable that such intense bullying could lead to suicide.

I feel like they were way too quick to dismiss that possibility of it being a lynching though.

And frankly racial bullying/violence leading to a suicide is nearly the same thing as lynching.

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Orchestrion
05/08/21 8:44:52 AM
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Zikten posted...
I dont know what is more disturbing, that lynching black people is back, or that they keep ruling them as suicides

It never went away

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Agnostic420
05/08/21 8:48:50 AM
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https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/07/metro/heres-what-we-know-do-not-know-about-death-mikayla-miller/

The DA says they were white and Latino. The family says they were all white apparently. The other article said 5 white teenagers.

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Bananana
05/08/21 8:53:22 AM
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come on guys, it wasnt a lynching, it was just intensely racist bullying that led to suicide, dont be so dramatic

do the conservatrolls itt have even an ounce of self-awareness?

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ScazarMeltex
05/08/21 8:53:26 AM
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Clearly this must be suicide and completely coincidental to the other bunch of black people that have been found hanging and "committing suicide" in the last few years.

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The Trent
05/08/21 8:54:11 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
It never went away

Whoa

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Slayer_22
05/08/21 9:02:54 AM
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Bananana posted...
come on guys, it wasnt a lynching, it was just intensely racist bullying that led to suicide, dont be so dramatic

do the conservatrolls itt have even an ounce of self-awareness?

Literally no one said that wtf?

Both are awful, but both need to be handled in extremely different ways. Unless you think a lynching and a suicide are the same? In that case, you're just being foolish.
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pinky0926
05/08/21 9:04:51 AM
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Bananana posted...
come on guys, it wasnt a lynching, it was just intensely racist bullying that led to suicide, dont be so dramatic

do the conservatrolls itt have even an ounce of self-awareness?

They actually argue to this day that a man who had his neck pinned by a knee and someone's full bodyweight for 9 minutes died because of his own drug problems

They will die on the blue line hill.

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doomcrusader
05/08/21 9:15:09 AM
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It's a tragedy but there's no reason to believe there was any racially motivated or homophobic attack.

A young girl killing herself is far more likely than a lynch mob in a small Massachusetts town.

Of course it should be investigated, but stop spreading false narratives.

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Orchestrion
05/08/21 9:21:38 AM
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The Trent posted...
Whoa

I know your whole thing is being edgy but shitposting in a discussion about lynching is pretty low even for you. Its Saturday, do your kids know youre making stupid posts about lynching on CE right now?

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The Trent
05/08/21 9:27:04 AM
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i wonder how accurate this is

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingyear.html

what does "[lynchings] never went away" mean to you?
you don't have to be so mad, we can just talk about it
it seems like they definitely went away pretty strong based on trends over decades, which is a good thing...right?

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The Trent
05/08/21 9:28:46 AM
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this looks interesting too and i'm about to get into it but maybe worthless
https://plaintalkhistory.com/monroeandflorencework/explore/

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The Trent
05/08/21 9:30:03 AM
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yeah check the timeline on the bottom
personally i'd say lynchings are heavily out of favor and have generally gone away, at this point
which i think is a good if not great thing!

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gunplagirl
05/08/21 9:37:47 AM
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Southernfatman posted...
Our courts and law enforcement systems are infested with hard right wingers so they always try to downplay acts of bigotry.
Don't forget that like a third of the states (all conservative) straight up lack any racially based hate crime laws or modifiers in their books. That number goes up to nearly half the states if we're counting ones where it's so difficult to prove whatever is in the law that changing someone with it won't actually result in a conviction or steeper penalty.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/08/21 9:47:13 AM
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I can't believe Venereal_Disease is playing down systemic racism in the US legal system.

imagin my shok

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gatorsPENSbucs
05/08/21 10:09:34 AM
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Agnostic420 posted...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/07/metro/heres-what-we-know-do-not-know-about-death-mikayla-miller/

The DA says they were white and Latino. The family says they were all white apparently. The other article said 5 white teenagers.
Says though that the altercation was between her and one female and one male. There might have been 5 people but nothing says she was beaten by 5 kids, just the altercation with 2 people.

Also it seems the identity of the kids, nobody has any idea until theyre actually shown or talked about.

And the altercation was the day before, and nothing race or preference related was mentioned. The only thing mentioned was the mom saying it was an altercation with her girlfriend from a fallout with her.

topic title is real clickbaity, and the one article youre bringing up is a go fund me page so thats not really an article.


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ShyOx
05/08/21 10:19:44 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
See this?:

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People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.
This ignore cost me nothing

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SaltyDogGum
05/08/21 10:41:13 AM
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This is not suicide. No black will hang themselves knowing our history. This is an attack. As a black man I find this fiendish.

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brestugo
05/08/21 10:44:55 AM
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doomcrusader posted...
It's a tragedy but there's no reason to believe there was any racially motivated or homophobic attack.

A young girl killing herself is far more likely than a lynch mob in a small Massachusetts town.

Of course it should be investigated, but stop spreading false narratives.
Have you been to small town Massachusetts?

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Orchestrion
05/08/21 10:58:01 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
If not, check out any small Mass town Facebook group and see how long it takes to see a dog whistle or outright racism, followed by a bunch of white people going that wasnt racist.

Dont forget all the Blue Lives Matter rallies and calls for violence against POC


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The Trent
05/08/21 11:02:04 AM
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Orchestrion posted...
Dont forget all the Blue Lives Matter rallies and calls for violence against POC

Hey did you not like my posts or is it just cause you don't like me I think we can still be friends but its kinda on you

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Samurontai
05/08/21 11:17:09 AM
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SaltyDogGum posted...
This is not suicide. No black will hang themselves knowing our history. This is an attack. As a black man I find this fiendish.

This is probably the dumbest thing Ive read so far today

Black people committing suicide isnt some rare occurrence. Suicides happening due to being bullied also isnt rare

its weird that they ruled out lynching though already. I feel like they should investigate a bit more before making a claim

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SaltyDogGum
05/08/21 11:22:07 AM
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Samurontai posted...
This is probably the dumbest thing Ive read so far today

Black people committing suicide isnt some rare occurrence. Suicides happening due to being bullied also isnt rare

its weird that they ruled out lynching though already. I feel like they should investigate a bit more before making a claim
I never said black people don't commit suicide, I said no black person would hang themselves to commit suicide.

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Gamerguymass
05/08/21 11:22:57 AM
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I can't imagine her being gay had anything to do with this. Even the people that were against gay marriage and campaigned to get it overturned have long since stopped caring that its legal when they realized it effected nothing and the overwhelming majority were in favor of it.

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Vicious_Dios
05/08/21 11:24:19 AM
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ShyOx posted...
This ignore cost me nothing

Isn't this the dude who self-admitedly talks during movie theater features?

People like this ignoring me is a Goddamn blessing.

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Samurontai
05/08/21 11:28:07 AM
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SaltyDogGum posted...
I never said black people don't commit suicide, I said no black person would hang themselves to commit suicide.

Again, an incredibly stupid thing to say. Like I get where youre coming from, but I doubt somebody who is suffering so much that theyre trying to take their life is going to stop and be like But my ancestors....

Like no man, thats not how it works. My bio dad is black, and he killed himself via hanging

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ScazarMeltex
05/08/21 11:28:23 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
See this?:

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People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.
Yeah well...fuck you pal. Because you clearly don't shit about anything.

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CobraGT
05/08/21 11:29:39 AM
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April 18th! is when this happened and they are saying suicide.

Also I quote [she was] "involved in a fight"

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Vicious_Dios
05/08/21 11:31:14 AM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Yeah well...fuck you pal. Because you clearly don't shit about anything.

I don't "shit about anything." -- indeed

Hopefully you'll cope quickly after having that unnecessary outburst.

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sktgamer_13dude
05/08/21 11:32:24 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
See this?:

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People are too comfortable making broad statements on things they know FUCK-ALL about.

Except nothing he said is wrong so shut the fuck up Dios.
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