Poll of the Day > I still don't get circumcision.

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FourthDimension
05/08/21 8:12:05 PM
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I do wonder if adult men would actually cut off part of their dicks because they think it would be more appealing to women... had that choice not been taken away from them as a baby.
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DirtBasedSoap
05/08/21 8:17:00 PM
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damn, didnt realize we had so many Jewish medical professionals on PotD

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BUMPED2002
05/08/21 9:07:26 PM
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Circumcision reduces the chance of contracting infections under the foreskin and it's also better for hygiene which lowers the risk of getting cancer of the penis.

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thedeerzord
05/08/21 9:43:14 PM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Circumcision reduces the chance of contracting infections under the foreskin and it's also better for hygiene which lowers the risk of getting cancer of the penis.
This also.

Did anyone parents here ever have there parents remind their child to wash their genitals when they were a kid?

My didn't....

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grimhilde00
05/08/21 10:00:55 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
This also.

Did anyone parents here ever have there parents remind their child to wash their genitals when they were a kid?

My didn't....

I -- what is the point you are trying to make here? That your parents failed to teach you basic hygiene, so surgical removal of foreskin is necessary? I'm confused.

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LinkPizza
05/08/21 10:37:00 PM
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FourthDimension posted...
I do wonder if adult men would actually cut off part of their dicks because they think it would be more appealing to women... had that choice not been taken away from them as a baby.

From what I've heard, many women have said all penises (cut or not) look weird. So, I'm not really sure it would help. As for men changing their penis, I don't think many would. But that goes both ways. Many guys I know like their penis, whether it's cut or not. For example, I know many uncut guys who would never want to be cut. And many cut guys who would never want to be uncut. Like if there was a medical process that would allow me to get my foreskin back, I still wouldn't get it because I like my penis the way it is... Plus, it would be kind of painful, and you would be able to have sex for some time, from what I hear... That said, I do hear they have surgeries to help. And stuff. They also have the fake foreskin. And that is supposed to help by not only being there, but to help grow it back somewhat by stretching it. Which is something to can actually do, I believe... As for cleaning, Idk. I don't know how to clean an uncut one. So, I'd have to do research on it or something...
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Smiffwilm
05/08/21 10:41:44 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
From what I've heard, many women have said all penis (cut or not) look weird. So, I'm not really sure it would help. As for men changing their penis, I don't think many would. But that goes both ways. Many guys I know like their penis, whether it's cut or not. For example, I know many uncut guys who would never want to be cut. And many cut guys who would never want to be uncut. Like if there was a medical process that would allow me to get my foreskin back, I still wouldn't... That said, I do hear they have surgeries to help. And stuff. They also have the fake foreskin. And that is supposed to help by not only being there, but to help grow it back somewhat by stretching it. Which is something to can actually do, I believe...
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DirtBasedSoap
05/08/21 10:44:19 PM
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grimhilde00 posted...
I -- what is the point you are trying to make here? That your parents failed to teach you basic hygiene, so surgical removal of foreskin is necessary? And as an adult you wouldn't have figured it out? I'm confused.

Replace surgery appointments with hygiene education ffs then
Id prefer to have a sexy dick AND not have to wash it.

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sodium-chloride
05/08/21 11:49:59 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Id prefer to have a sexy dick AND not have to wash it.

you have to wash your dick even with a circumcision

what the fuck is this post lmao
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SunWuKung420
05/08/21 11:52:37 PM
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Imagine thinking mutilating a newborn infant is the proper course of action...shameful

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grimhilde00
05/08/21 11:56:41 PM
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sodium-chloride posted...
you have to wash your dick even with a circumcision

what the fuck is this post lmao


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jsb0714
05/09/21 12:22:51 AM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
The only proper benefit of circumcision is reducing HIV transmission in adult men. It should not be done on children period.

Stuff like this blows my mind. You don't have to be a clean freak to have enough personal pride to clean your own damn dick. Like WTF. Then again I suppose someone that's below even the minimum standard wouldn't be getting action anyways so them cleaning it is irrelevant.
Damn, your reaction is beyond ridiculous. You gonna schedule surgery to remove that stick from your ass?
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LeetCheet
05/09/21 12:56:58 AM
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Isn't it extremely common that girls getting infections from guys because they aren't cleaning their dicks properly(both cut and uncut)?

And I agree that we should teach our children to clean their genitals.
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supergamer19
05/09/21 2:07:40 AM
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My favorite is when peeps think an uncircumcised shlong is gross, but will vehemently condone docking tails and cropping ears in dogs loooooool

I used to liken it to tattooing a baby with something small, underneath the foot or something. No one ever thought a parent had a right to make such a choice for the child. Hell, at least the tat could be used as an identifier.

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Yellow
05/09/21 6:44:53 AM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Circumcision reduces the chance of contracting infections under the foreskin and it's also better for hygiene which lowers the risk of getting cancer of the penis.
Yeah, do you know your odds of getting those things was in the first place? Practically non-existent

Better chop off your entire dick and then there would never be any infections

Fucking stupid logic

Penis cancer is such a huge problem in society

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adjl
05/09/21 9:56:17 AM
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BUMPED2002 posted...
Circumcision reduces the chance of contracting infections under the foreskin

Much like appendectomies reduces the chance of contracting appendicitis and tonsillectomies reduce the chance of contracting tonsillitis. Of course chopping something off means it won't get infected. That's not a good reason to pre-emptively remove everything you can live without.

BUMPED2002 posted...
it's also better for hygiene

Which is a largely moot point in a world with readily available running water. If left unwashed, yeah, an uncircumcised dick is going to get grosser than a circumcised one, but they're both going to get gross enough that you should just wash your junk regularly regardless. Practice basic hygiene, and there's really no difference.

BUMPED2002 posted...
lowers the risk of getting cancer of the penis.

The reduction in penile cancer rate is about 1%. Given that the foreskin accounts for roughly 1% of the total tissue mass of the penis, this is generally just another case of reducing the risk of disease by removing the body part that becomes diseased (which, again, is a ridiculous philosophy). Furthermore, given how rare penile cancer is and how trivial a reduction 1% is, I wouldn't be remotely surprised if more guys have died from complications of circumcision than have died because of that 1% greater risk of penile cancer.

DirtBasedSoap posted...
Id prefer to have a sexy dick AND not have to wash it.

Moving past the "you should be washing your dick regardless you disgusting slob" thing, because others have already covered it, that's fine. If you feel you would like to have cosmetic surgery to change how your dick looks, that's your prerogative. But that's *your* choice to make, not your parents'. Nobody's saying that nobody should ever get circumcised. Just that nobody should ever perform or request cosmetic surgery on somebody that can't consent to it.

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HornedLion
05/09/21 9:57:48 AM
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Foreskin is easy to maintain. Just WASH YO DICK!

Second, Im glad I have my hood. God knows I cant afford to lose any girth.

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MeteoricBurst
05/09/21 9:59:13 AM
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jsb0714 posted...
Damn, your reaction is beyond ridiculous. You gonna schedule surgery to remove that stick from your ass?

What's ridiculous was your assertion that men are such basic cretins they can't even be counted on to do the bare minimum in hygiene, which is cleaning their dicks. If anything my response was reserved for the utter nonsense you posted.

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captpackrat
05/09/21 10:11:40 AM
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My spouse was cut, I'm not. He was always amazed at how much more sensitive I was.

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MeteoricBurst
05/09/21 10:16:24 AM
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captpackrat posted...
My spouse was cut, I'm not. He was always amazed at how much more sensitive I was.

This is something I wonder about with cut guys. How sensitive is it if the head is exposed all the time, and does it dry out? They always look faded to me. I don't think someone that was cut from birth can answer because it's just normal for them. It would have to be someone that gets cut as an adult that can compare the two states.

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HornedLion
05/09/21 10:26:13 AM
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captpackrat posted...
My spouse was cut, I'm not. He was always amazed at how much more sensitive I was.

I knew you liked goats. Didnt know you were into stallions, too.

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Aculo
05/09/21 11:28:02 AM
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it's so women aren't repulsed by a gross dog dong, ok?

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DirtBasedSoap
05/09/21 12:18:51 PM
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sodium-chloride posted...
you have to wash your dick even with a circumcision

what the fuck is this post lmao
I NEVER wash my dick, its unnatural

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thedeerzord
05/09/21 12:19:46 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
I NEVER wash my dick, its unnatural
*barfs all over Soap*

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Blightzkrieg
05/09/21 12:26:35 PM
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Y'all ever read those doujins where the guy's schlong is just caked in smegma

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LeetCheet
05/09/21 12:42:14 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
sodium-chloride posted...
you have to wash your dick even with a circumcision

what the fuck is this post lmao
I NEVER wash my dick, its unnatural


Are you just trolling now?
I mean, why would cleaning yourself be unnatural in any way?
Even animals clean their junk.
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adjl
05/09/21 12:50:41 PM
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LeetCheet posted...
I mean, why would cleaning yourself be unnatural in any way?

Technically, everything humans do is unnatural, since the distinction between natural and artificial hinges entirely on whether or not it's something a human is doing. That's a pretty useless definition, though.

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SilentSeph
05/09/21 12:58:42 PM
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sodium-chloride posted...
you have to wash your dick even with a circumcision

what the fuck is this post lmao

LeetCheet posted...
Are you just trolling now?
I mean, why would cleaning yourself be unnatural in any way?
Even animals clean their junk.
Seems like obvious sarcasm

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LeetCheet
05/09/21 1:02:14 PM
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SilentSeph posted...
Seems like obvious sarcasm


Well my sarcasm-detector have been so janky these last few years so I guess he was just being sarcastic then.
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IronBornCorps
05/09/21 1:05:48 PM
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I can't help but notice those who would generally not have a sexual encounter with ANY penis, are the most vocal about how ugly circumsised penis' are...
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LinkPizza
05/09/21 2:14:56 PM
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HornedLion posted...
God knows I cant afford to lose any girth.

The difference is girth is barely noticeable, if noticeable at all...

adjl posted...
Just that nobody should ever perform or request cosmetic surgery on somebody that can't consent to it.

Its weird either way to me. While not getting cut gives the person a chance to get cut later, its almost (kind of) choosing for the top o be uncut in a way. The reason I say this is only because most people wouldnt choose to be cut in the future. Not because uncut is better or anything, but for other reasons. Such as the pain of surgery and recovery, cost, and not changing the penis you grew up with (whether it was cut or uncut, though). Technically, they could still choose. But in that case, theyve all be made the decision for them... Though, Im glad my mom decided to get me circumcised...

captpackrat posted...
My spouse was cut, I'm not. He was always amazed at how much more sensitive I was.

I think this is probably another reason Im glad Im cut. I still get really sensitive with my BF. And if it would be even more sensitive, Id be stopping sex all the time. Haha. Though, I also like how they look. I like touching the cut ones more, even when flaccid...
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wwinterj25
05/09/21 2:18:18 PM
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I can't say circumcision is something I give much thought too. It's not as popular in the UK but at the end of the day it's still just a penis so meh.

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adjl
05/09/21 2:20:02 PM
#84:


LinkPizza posted...
While not getting cut gives the person a chance to get cut later, its almost (kind of) choosing for the top o be uncut in a way. The reason I say this is only because most people wouldnt choose to be cut in the future. Not because uncut is better or anything, but for other reasons. Such as the pain of surgery and recovery, cost, and not changing the penis you grew up with (whether it was cut or uncut, though). Technically, they could still choose.

Giving them the choice does not take away the choice from them. That's just not how words work. If anything, if we're going to say that giving them the choice is likely to result in them choosing not to do it, that makes choosing for them even worse, because you're doing something that they wouldn't want if you hadn't forced them into it.

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LinkPizza
05/09/21 2:28:20 PM
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adjl posted...
Giving them the choice does not take away the choice from them. That's just not how words work. If anything, if we're going to say that giving them the choice is likely to result in them choosing not to do it, that makes choosing for them even worse, because you're doing something that they wouldn't want if you hadn't forced them into it.

Hence why I said they could still choose and that it was, theyve all be made the decision for them. I said its almost like making the choice for them. I just gave the reasons why I think that... Though, while many wouldnt choose it, many who have had it chosen for them like it. For example, I would have never chosen to do it. So, Im glad it was done for me as a baby. Had she chose to not get me circumcised, she would have basically chosen for me to not be circumcised because I wouldnt have gotten it when I got older. And probably would have be even more self-conscious not really knowing what was wrong with my dick... To me, Im personally fine with either cut or uncut for whoever. That said, I do like cut dicks better when talking about sexual partners...
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Blightzkrieg
05/09/21 2:31:49 PM
#86:


Imagine being uncut and having to vomit every time you go for a whizz

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Yellow
05/09/21 2:35:00 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
This is something I wonder about with cut guys. How sensitive is it if the head is exposed all the time, and does it dry out? They always look faded to me. I don't think someone that was cut from birth can answer because it's just normal for them. It would have to be someone that gets cut as an adult that can compare the two states.
The tip is not as sensitive as yours. You have more nerve endings. Actually, there is no sensitive skin there. Hope that helps your visuals.

It's total fucking bullshit, people are in denial or so open-minded their brains are spilling out. Yeah, men can still orgasm, if that's all they know.

For what it's worth I did find masturbation initially disappointing, but again I have no reference.

Thankfully circumcision rates are dropping so men of the future can enjoy what nature gave them without some Mormon or Quaker taking it away

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adjl
05/09/21 3:11:14 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I said its almost like making the choice for them.

Except it's not. It's the complete opposite of making the choice for them, which is - by the definition of the phrase "complete opposite" - nothing like making the choice for them. The ultimate outcome is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not the choice has been made for them, so any biases in that outcome should not be considered in deciding whether or not the choice should be made for them.

Basically, your logic is that, because most people that are circumcised are okay with it, that's effectively the same thing as letting them choose to have it done (at least, that's the converse of your position, which must also be true if yours is). It's not. If somebody walks into a restaurant and you bring them a bowl of pasta before they've gotten to look at a menu, they have not ordered pasta. If you bring them a menu, and they don't order pasta, that does not mean that bringing them a menu has decided that they shouldn't get pasta, it means *they* have decided that.

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LinkPizza
05/09/21 3:16:33 PM
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adjl posted...
Except it's not. It's the complete opposite of making the choice for them, which is - by the definition of the phrase "complete opposite" - nothing like making the choice for them.

And I disagree and still think its almost like making the choice for them. Since not being circumcised will side more of them to stay uncircumcised... I still think that its almost like making the choice for them.

adjl posted...
Basically, your logic is that, because most people that are circumcised are okay with it, that's effectively the same thing as letting them choose to have it done (at least, that's the converse of your position, which must also be true if yours is).

I also didnt say that, so...
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MeteoricBurst
05/09/21 3:23:35 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
And I disagree and still think its almost like making the choice for them. Since not being circumcised will side more of them to stay uncircumcised... I still think that its almost like making the choice for them.

I see where you're coming from but it's still not the same as removing the choice entirely. It's not like its reversible. The one you talking about is more like societal norms enforcing something, and funnily enough applies to the parents in this situation. Did they have a choice or is it all enforced behaviour because its tradition and everyone else they know did it to their children. They do have a choice even if difficult, if they're bold enough to go against the grain. It's still more choice than the child if he got snipped.

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LinkPizza
05/09/21 3:30:34 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
I see where you're coming from but it's still not the same as removing the choice entirely. It's not like its reversible. The one you talking about is more like societal norms enforcing something, and funnily enough applies to the parents in this situation. Did they have a choice or is it all enforced behaviour because its tradition and everyone else they know did it to their children. They do have a choice even if difficult, if they're bold enough to go against the grain. It's still more choice than the child if he got snipped.

Dont get me wrong. I know its not the exactly the same. Thats why I keep saying almost. Because I know that its literally not the same. But I still think its similar enough that its almost like choosing for them... And it could be the same for the parents, as well... Though, if it ever becomes completely reversible, then it probably wont matter. I mean, they already seem part way there, so...
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supergamer19
05/09/21 3:38:36 PM
#92:


MeteoricBurst posted...
It would have to be someone that gets cut as an adult that can compare the two states.

The Filipino's I grew up around all had it done around 12-14 years old. Think of it like a Bar Mitzvah or Confirmation. Never thought to ask around that age, obviously.

A buddy of mine got it done as an adult, for no medical reason, and to be fair, he says he likes it way more. Couldn't pinpoint why he likes it better, just that it looks more pleasing to him. He also mentioned that sensitivity hadn't really changed.

Couldn't jerk it for like a month. I may be misremembering, but I think he took a boner suppressant for the first week or two.

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sodium-chloride
05/09/21 3:52:56 PM
#93:


LinkPizza posted...
The difference is girth is barely noticeable, if noticeable at all...

maybe for most but my foreskin is abnormally thick. If I got rid of mine my penis would be significantly less girthy.
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LinkPizza
05/09/21 4:05:25 PM
#94:


sodium-chloride posted...
maybe for most but my foreskin is abnormally thick. If I got rid of mine my penis would be significantly less girthy.

I guess. Idk. I just know for most, its barely noticeable...
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OhhhJa
05/09/21 6:47:43 PM
#95:


LinkPizza posted...
I guess. Idk. I just know for most, its barely noticeable...
Idk I'm a guy but that's the opposite of what I've heard from women my entire life
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grimhilde00
05/09/21 6:49:27 PM
#96:


OhhhJa posted...
Idk I'm a guy but that's the opposite of what I've heard from women my entire life
Foreskin does not make a difference in girth from my experience........

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LinkPizza
05/09/21 6:58:50 PM
#97:


OhhhJa posted...
Idk I'm a guy but that's the opposite of what I've heard from women my entire life

Not sure. I've had a ton of experiences with different penises, and it doesn't seem like it adds much. Not to mention, other guys I've been with have mentioned that. And a few people who were circumcised as an adult says that it doesn't seem like much changes... Not to mention, it seems that the skin peels back when erect anyway, meaning that it really shouldn't affect girth much (as the foreskin is pulled back and usually stretches some to make it thin)... As in barely noticeable...

Though, out of the reasons above, the one who would know most are the ones circumcised as an adult since they have something to compared it to... Though, some of the comments I found said that there was "really no difference in girth". Based on what I've seen, it does seem accurate...
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OhhhJa
05/09/21 7:02:43 PM
#98:


grimhilde00 posted...
Foreskin does not make a difference in girth from my experience........
Oh I may have missed some posts. Were we talking about girth only as it relates to foreskin vs no foreskin? I thought he was just saying girth doesn't matter in general
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Blightzkrieg
05/09/21 7:11:17 PM
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The foreskin is pretty elastic, I doubt it impacts girth significantly as it can just be compressed down

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