Current Events > American factories are desperate for workers. It's a $1 trillion problem....

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dolomedes posted...

people say the same thing about running a cash register or working with burning grease all day.

people just love to hate on labor.

With the cash register you have to deal with hundreds of people every day. Do that job for a year and youll eventually lose your faith in humanity and start to root for Thanos.

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unemployment with the extra $300 pays way more than someone making $15 an hour. any of these jobs hiring under $15 an hour have no chance of hiring people. even with $15 an hour cost of living is way too high and pretty sure people on unemployment can get food stamps and rent assistance so they keep most of the money they get.

Remember when people said the government giving people money won't disincentivize people from working

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CalosiaTana posted...

Give better pay and get more workers willing to be there. Problem solved.

But my 4th boat! How will I afford it? - every CEO

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iPhone_7 posted...

With the cash register you have to deal with hundreds of people every day. Do that job for a year and youll eventually lose your faith in humanity and start to root for Thanos.

You dont even need a year. A month is more than enough to hate humanity.

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iPhone_7 posted...

With the cash register you have to deal with hundreds of people every day. Do that job for a year and youll eventually lose your faith in humanity and start to root for Thanos.

People root for Thanos just for waiting on line

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Squall28 posted...

Remember when people said the government giving people money won't disincentivize people from working

lolololol

Some of these people will pay others to go pick up their groceries cause they don't wanna do it.

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iPhone_7 posted...

With the cash register you have to deal with hundreds of people every day. Do that job for a year and youll eventually lose your faith in humanity and start to root for Thanos.

I have an internet connection, I've already lost faith in humanity

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"Hur hur LAZY!!!"

Boomer owners and their younger sycophant self hating ass kissers just don't get that the world isn't the same as it was in the 70s. You can't have a house, two cars, and a family just on a factory job anymore.

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H0LD_Austin_Era posted...

lolololol

Some of these people will pay others to go pick up their groceries cause they don't wanna do it.

or, you know, there's a pandemic going on

also old people who can't go out, etc.

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I remember when a boomer called me a "clock watcher". Guy is dumb as a mule and unprofessional. And people wonder why the company morale is low.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

People root for Thanos just for waiting on line

lol

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SSJPurple posted...

What happened to all those job stealing immigrants the right tells ghost stories about?

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H0LD_Austin_Era posted...

I remember when a boomer called me a "clock watcher".

Generally, someone calling you a clock watcher, is paid to watch you.

dolomedes posted...

target hires at $15

Asterisk needed. Granted I haven't followed closely since their announcement, but I believe you are correct in that Target gave people pay bumps or start out higher due to the pandemic. However, Target being a greedy retailer who relies on people taking things at face value and doing no research after "good thing" is announced, they slashed hours, and many people ended up making less because they were working less. Target ended up taking down their FB ads promoting this because the comments sections were FULL of employees calling them out for cutting hours after raising pay. So someone who was making let's say $10/hr @ 40hrs/wk gets bumped to $15/hr and is now working 10-20 hrs/wk, tops

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Because I can make the same amount of money doing a quarter of the work. Why would I go to a factory? They'd have to pay me what the work is worth

Costco is basically the only retailer where most of the employees seem to have positive things to say about their compensation.

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I worked there for 5 years and nobody said anything to me. Our dept moved closer to the manager's area and the last few months he had a problem cause I left like right on the dot or a minute after my typical 8 hours of office work. I had no reason to stick around unless someone needed me. Plus he never said shit to other office workers not to mention I'd get to the job typically 5-10 mins early. So yeah fuck him. I live in a small town and if I come across him and he says something to me I'd verbally tear him apart. I pretty much called him uneducated in my resignation letter.

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Snakebone99 posted...

Because I can make the same amount of money doing a quarter of the work. Why would I go to a factory? They'd have to pay me what the work is worth

Are you sure about that? A forklift operator (basically the easiest factory job I can think of) makes between $14-20 an hour. Are you saying you have a job where you can make $80 an hour or that you can easily get one?


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H0LD_Austin_Era posted...

lolololol

Some of these people will pay others to go pick up their groceries cause they don't wanna do it.

Same thing with these food delivery services. But be sure, they'll be the first ones complaining about not having enough money.

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LightHawKnight posted...

Teenagers never seem to join up, but the work is pretty tough. At least at the factory my mother works at. Lots of heavy machinery and lifting rather hefty stuff all day.

Depends on what the factory does and the positions. The ones I had teenagers walking out on was at Shutterfly lmao. They were literal button pushers, very little physical labor involved. Same when I was at a sensor/transducer manufacturer, no heavy lifting or muscle needed, just boring af and repetitive. But of they can stfu, show up on time, and sort parts for 8 hours they were making $36-$40k/yr with full benefits and no experience needed. that's not bad at all.

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PoundGarden posted...

Depends on what the factory does and the positions. The ones I had teenagers walking out on was at Shutterfly lmao. They were literal button pushers, very little physical labor involved. Same when I was at a sensor/transducer manufacturer, no heavy lifting or muscle needed, just boring af and repetitive. But of they can stfu, show up on time, and sort parts for 8 hours they were making $36-$40k/yr with full benefits and no experience needed. that's not bad at all.

how am i supposed to get a lambo with my skill-less, unvalued labor set

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Capitalism dictates you offer more money to fill those positions. Instead they will bitch and blame the stimulus.

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dolomedes posted...

how much do the entry level positions pay

depends on the company.

There is one close to where I live that pays $21 an hour for an order selector. They offer health insurance, 401k and paid time off.

dolomedes posted...

to be fair, you worked in recruiting for these companies.

every dipshit manager i've ever had has told me the job is good XD

Thats fair, and management that lies to candidates are pieces of shit and terrible at their jobs.

I was very good at my job. Did me no good to bullshit someone only to have them quit a few days later. I was very frank and basically told them "its not fun, you can't come and go as you please you have to work your shift. BUT if you can show up on time and do the job ill keep you as long as you want to be here, we don't lay off good workers (which was true)"

Tall order lol, they'd rather go goof off with their buddies in retail

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Squall28 posted...

Same thing with these food delivery services. But be sure, they'll be the first ones complaining about not having enough money.

Yeah it's those lazy bums I dislike (not referring to the pandemic). And even if you slightly helped these people it wouldn't be enough. They want like a million dollars cash upfront to be happy. Sadly they'd blow the million on shit and say not enough. How about working to earn it???

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dolomedes posted...

like what search terms do i use

"light industrial"

KiwiTerraRizing posted...

Capitalism dictates you offer more money to fill those positions. Instead they will bitch and blame the stimulus.

Not really. It is the stimulus. Workers will come back once that's gone. It should be a lessons learned at this point. Free gov money=less workers

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Are you sure about that? A forklift operator (basically the easiest factory job I can think of) makes between $14-20 an hour. Are you saying you have a job where you can make $80 an hour or that you can easily get one?

You aren't getting double or triple the minimum wage around here in any job. $7.50 is minimum wage or something. So factories, gas stations, Walmart, dollar store, and everything else pays the same. You aren't making over $10 an hour starring at any job around here. After a few years you might get up to that.

There's objectively no reason why humans should be working in factories. Every aspect of the manufacturing process that can be automated, should be automated.

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CRON posted...

Every aspect of the manufacturing process that can be automated, should be automated.

If a robot that does a task costs more over its useful service life than just hiring someone off the street to do that task, that guy gets the job.

CRON posted...

There's objectively no reason why humans should be working in factories. Every aspect of the manufacturing process that can be automated, should be automated.

Everyone wants that but it's a slow process.

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The Trent posted...

how am i supposed to get a lambo with my skill-less, unvalued labor set

Funnily enough, the owner at the transducer plant owned a new Diablo, a classic Countach, a Bentley, some boxy rare Mercedes SUV and a Land Rover.
The workers talked sooooo much shit and were so salty over that and it was infuriating. I'm like "what part of this guy who literally invented, patented, and paid for the devices you screw together making good money seems unbalanced or unfair to you?"

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dolomedes posted...

how much do the entry level positions pay

The place some of my friends work at start $18.50/hr, its just hard to get in.

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PoundGarden posted...

I'm like "what part of this guy who literally invented, patented, and paid for the devices you screw together making good money seems unbalanced or unfair to you?"

If anything, that guy should have invested in automation - then he'd have two Countaches.

I work in a factory. It's basically a last resort type job. If you have other avenues of employment, take them. Your hours can and likely will fluctuate from 8 to 12+. You might get "suprised" with your orders/quota being double or even tripled which means you may not have a day off for weeks or even months working 12 or more hours a day.

Here if your particular area is doing good and has no outstanding orders on say a Monday they may place you in other areas to pick up the slack, which can last for weeks. By the time you're done helping other areas your original area may have a surplus of orders so you have to bust your ass to catch up.

As others have said the pay is abysmal and not worth it, unless it's all you have available to you.

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Strider102 posted...

As others have said the pay is abysmal and not worth it, unless it's all you have available to you.

This is what I hear a lot.

Strider102 posted...

I work in a factory. It's basically a last resort type job. If you have other avenues of employment, take them. Your hours can and likely will fluctuate from 8 to 12+. You might get "suprised" with your orders/quota being double or even tripled which means you may not have a day off for weeks or even months working 12 or more hours a day.

Here if your particular area is doing good and has no outstanding orders on say a Monday they may place you in other areas to pick up the slack, which can last for weeks. By the time you're done helping other areas your original area may have a surplus of orders so you have to bust your ass to catch up.

As others have said the pay is abysmal and not worth it, unless it's all you have available to you.

Posters like @Squall28 read this and say "gotta make sure there's nothing else available to them then, problem solved"

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SSJPurple posted...

What happened to all those job stealing immigrants the right tells ghost stories about?

Ikr

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They should cut pay AND unemployment. That way, people are forced to break their backs and be treated like shit just to take home enough money to not afford their bills.

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If they cant find skilled workers why dont they train new people that want to work but dont have the skills?

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Questionmarktarius posted...

If a robot that does a task costs more over its useful service life than just hiring someone off the street to do that task, that guy gets the job.

Unless it's some super complex job that's going to be largely impossible.

Robots don't need PTO. They don't need to take leave. They don't run up your medical insurance costs. They don't complain about sexual harassment and sue the company. They don't click on phishing emails and cryptolock your entire network. They don't make racist posts on twitter. They don't stage an insurrection at the capitol while wearing your company's badge. They don't need to be trained or given an office. Etc.

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SSJPurple posted...

What happened to all those job stealing immigrants the right tells ghost stories about?

Immigration policy actually worked. You can't pay under-the-table with the looming threat of calling ICE, without getting in trouble yourself anymore.

not surprising tbh with the millennial work ethic
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Veggeta X posted...

Ikr

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Tyranthraxus posted...

Unless it's some super complex job that's going to be largely impossible.

Have you seen the price of industrial robots?
Everything that is cost-effective to automate, already has been.

Tyranthraxus posted...

LoL that's great.

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