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ZannoL
05/04/21 1:15:00 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/economy/manufacturing-jobs-economy/index.html

Demand for goods is skyrocketing as the US economy reopens from the pandemic. But there's a big problem: American factories can't find enough people to do the work.

Even though US manufacturing activity surged to a 37-year high in March, the industry has more than half a million job openings. Factories are struggling to find skilled workers for specialized roles such as welders and machinists. Manufacturers are even having trouble hiring entry-level positions that do not require expertise.

The talent shortage is not new but it's getting worse and could have far-reaching consequences beyond the manufacturing industry itself.

As many as 2.1 million manufacturing jobs will be unfilled through 2030, according to a study published Tuesday by Deloitte and The Manufacturing Institute. The report warns the worker shortage will hurt revenue, production and could ultimately cost the US economy up to $1 trillion by 2030.

"It is deeply concerning that at a time when jobs are in such high demand nationwide, the number of vacant entry-level manufacturing positions continues to grow," Paul Wellener, vice chairman and US industrial products and constructions leader at Deloitte, said in a statement.


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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:16:28 PM
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how much do the entry level positions pay
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ZannoL
05/04/21 1:18:20 PM
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dolomedes posted...
how much do the entry level positions pay
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.
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YourLovelyTina
05/04/21 1:18:42 PM
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America has factories?

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ImAMarvel
05/04/21 1:19:03 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.

I mean....that would be the reason why.

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SSJPurple
05/04/21 1:19:25 PM
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What happened to all those job stealing immigrants the right tells ghost stories about?


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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:19:34 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.
welp there's the answer

same goes for the service/retail industry, currently crying about staffing issues (while also, at least in my company's case, cutting labor costs to the bone)
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Mezcla
05/04/21 1:19:56 PM
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pay more

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H0LD_Austin_Era
05/04/21 1:20:05 PM
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Where are the robots working 24/7?

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Smackems
05/04/21 1:20:51 PM
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H0LD_Austin_Era posted...
Where are the robots working 24/7?


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CalosiaTana
05/04/21 1:20:52 PM
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Give better pay and get more workers willing to be there. Problem solved.

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_MorningStar
05/04/21 1:21:53 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
What happened to all those job stealing immigrants the right tells ghost stories about?
They work in the fields, duh

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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:22:00 PM
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YourLovelyTina posted...
America has factories?
idk i've visited a lot of towns that 'used to be booming' before all the factories went overseas to find a more easily-exploitable labor force and cheaper real estate.
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legendary_zell
05/04/21 1:22:12 PM
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Raising the supply of workers by raising the desirability of work (wages) never seems to come up in these fluff pieces. American workers are characterized as unskilled and lazy and the people who must change. Meanwhile, businesses are perfect angels who have tried nothing and are all out of ideas.

People will line up to work at a good job with good benefits. People will not line up to work hard and not see improvement in their lives or basic security. Only desperation forces that.

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ImAMarvel
05/04/21 1:22:20 PM
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dolomedes posted...
same goes for the service/retail industry, currently crying about staffing issues (while also, at least in my company's case, cutting labor costs to the bone)

I know someone will probably call me whiny but service industry jobs suck motherfucking ass and if I ever work another one, it'll be my last before I get my bachelor's and peace out to whatever the fuck I'll be doing after I graduate. Hated almost every moment of working that shit. Only reason why I'm considering working another is because I miss making money like I was doing a few years ago and could use a second job. Then again, I'm getting my AA this week and could leverage that to get a better job too.

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ZannoL
05/04/21 1:22:37 PM
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H0LD_Austin_Era posted...
Where are the robots working 24/7?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/04/economy/manufacturing-jobs-economy/index.html
Manufacturing executives say part of the problem is that many young Americans just don't want to work in factories, in part because of fears about robots taking over and jobs getting shipped overseas.

"We have a perception problem. People don't know the jobs are here or that these are jobs they want," Carolyn Lee, executive director of The Manufacturing Institute, told CNN Business. The institute is the nonprofit workforce development partner of the National Association of Manufacturers, a powerful industry trade group.

"People think it's a stationary, low-progression and low-knowledge industry. And that's not the case," Lee said.

The Deloitte report said that despite an influx of 2.7 million industrial robots in use worldwide, humans are still needed to produce the vast amount of goods.

"The robots are not taking over," said Lee. "A robot can pick up a box and move it, but a person can be creative and get ahead of what's coming."

Yet some robotics startups are seeking to capitalize on the shortage of skilled workers.

Path Robotics, a Columbus, Ohio-based startup, says it has designed the world's first truly autonomous robotic welding system. The startup announced a $56 million round of funding Monday to fuel its expansion.

"Path Robotics is solving a complex and critical problem in our country by bridging the gap between the supply of skilled welders and demand," Lee Fixel, founder of Addition, a venture capital firm that led the round of funding, said in a statement.
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LightHawKnight
05/04/21 1:22:39 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.

Is it? At least the factory my mother works at gives decent pay and a ton of benefits. There is always a waiting list for new employees who want in. The work is super tough and grueling, but the pay and benefits are real nice. Also nice that she upgraded to a desk job now.

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 1:22:51 PM
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It's that simple.
There's inadequate supply at the current level of demand. Increasing that demand (pay) will cause the supply (employees) to appear.
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HakubaofRomeIl
05/04/21 1:23:03 PM
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Alternate title: Rich idiots don't understand why people don't want to be slaves in a giant room with no central heating or cooling.
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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:24:02 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
I know someone will probably call me whiny but service industry jobs suck motherfucking ass

anybody calling you whiny for that hasn't worked one, or is a boomer who waited tables for a summer and it paid for their college tuition.
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YourLovelyTina
05/04/21 1:25:09 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
Meanwhile, businesses are perfect angels who have tried nothing and are all out of ideas.


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Prismsblade
05/04/21 1:26:23 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.
Source? Most I see usually pay above most retailers with benefits.

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ImAMarvel
05/04/21 1:27:32 PM
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dolomedes posted...
anybody calling you whiny for that hasn't worked one, or is a boomer who waited tables for a summer and it paid for their college tuition.

Thank you.

Yeah, I sure do love getting yelled at by shitty customers and my shitty impatient boss who breaks their own rules at the same time, while constantly feeling like my ass is on the line and that I could be fired for the simplest of mistakes, all while I'm making $9/hr. Oh wait, I fucking don't.

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ZannoL
05/04/21 1:27:57 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
Is it? At least the factory my mother works at gives decent pay and a ton of benefits. There is always a waiting list for new employees who want in. The work is super tough and grueling, but the pay and benefits are real nice. Also nice that she upgraded to a desk job now.

Prismsblade posted...
Source? Most I see usually pay above most retailers with benefits.
Oh

I always assumed it was low pay.
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Kalk
05/04/21 1:28:41 PM
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People will continue to not work these jobs so long as the $300 unemployment bonus continues.

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 1:29:07 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Oh

I always assumed it was low pay.
It's better pay than a retail clerk, because it has to be to get anyone to actually do it. It's still pretty low.
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BugPorker
05/04/21 1:30:38 PM
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I haven't been employed for years I just live that NEET life. And I don't want to work in a factory or at a fast food joint. I don't care what the pay or benefits are the work is not glamorous and is pretty lame. My goal in life is to be a content creator I just need my parents to buy me the gear and I would become a full time streamer.
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legendary_zell
05/04/21 1:31:02 PM
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I guarantee you the owners of these factories are on the Chambers of Commerce in their areas and harp about the power of the free market and how it's the only way to organize things. But they don't respect the basic rule of supply and demand when that affects their bottom line.

It's clear what they're trying to do. They want politicians to create policies that make workers either more suitable for employment without them paying more or they want policies that make workers more desperate, so they don't have to pay more.

It's freedom and control for them as the bottom line. They're either gonna crash the capitalist car or they'll win and make us all into interchangeable worker bees with no safety net and no alternative to whatever they decide we won't literally drop dead on.

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PoundGarden
05/04/21 1:31:12 PM
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ZannoL posted...
Not much at all. It's hard work and very little pay.

As someone who has worked in HR and recruiting for a few factories, allow me to say you're completely full of shit.
Most factory work isn't "hard". Its mind numbingly boring and repetitive. Most "factory jobs" start at about $13-$18+ per hour.
The reason for the labor shortage is young people don't waaaaant to work in a factory and would rather fuck around with their friends at Target for $9/hr 20 hrs a week and bitch about it online. I cannot tell you how many dumb fuck teenagers walked out of orientation for $16/hr no experience needed jobs because "this seems boring".

And we wonder why China is fucking us into the dirt.

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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:31:51 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
Yeah, I sure do love getting yelled at by shitty customers and my shitty impatient boss who breaks their own rules at the same time, while constantly feeling like my ass is on the line and that I could be fired for the simplest of mistakes, all while I'm making $9/hr. Oh wait, I fucking don't.
i literally heard an assistant manager recently tell a co-worker 'i know you work very hard, but sales are up and we're gonna need you to work a little bit harder.' co-worker in question works 48 hours a week and is the only person doing the job (she has one day off where a part-timer takes over, but can't do all of the parts of the job). she asked if she could get help, manager said 'we can't add any hours, we're already over-budget.'
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CommonGrackle
05/04/21 1:31:54 PM
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yeah this is this "I can't find anyone to work at my plant but dammit if I'm going to pay you 18 an hour to start" stories you get every year that I get so tired of...

maybe if companies promised housing or something, that might get people to pick up and move.

edit: it might not be a question of more money but more job security for some folks
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Prismsblade
05/04/21 1:32:21 PM
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Low relative to what exactly? I dont normally hear about factory workers struggling to survive because of lownpay compared to retail or fast food.

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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:32:43 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
As someone who has worked in HR and recruiting for a few factories, allow me to say you're completely full of shit.
Most factory work isn't "hard". Its mind numbingly boring and repetitive. Most "factory jobs" start at about $13-$18+ per hour.
The reason for the labor shortage is young people don't waaaaant to work in a factory and would rather fuck around with their friends at Target for $9/hr 20 hrs a week and bitch about it online. I cannot tell you how many dumb fuck teenagers walked out of orientation for $16/hr no experience needed jobs because "this seems boring".
target hires at $15
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TheLiarParadox
05/04/21 1:32:59 PM
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I did some warehouse and factory work right after high school and hated it because I was in horrible shape and put myself at a huge disadvantage for dealing with the rest of the hardship of the job.

I'm in the best shape of my life and improving all the time, so I'm kind of considering taking up that type of work (for decent enough pay, ofc) once I get mentally acclimated to working for someone else again.

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Garioshi
05/04/21 1:33:07 PM
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I would simply pay my workers more

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 1:33:10 PM
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CommonGrackle posted...
maybe if companies promised housing or something, that might get people to pick up and move.
No, that's terribad. If you think healthcare being tied to employment is awful, housing is even worse.
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Awards
05/04/21 1:33:15 PM
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My dad and mom both worked factory jobs to support me and my brother.

They always came home tired. The work is not at all easy. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
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CommonGrackle
05/04/21 1:35:00 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...

No, that's terribad. If you think healthcare being tied to employment is awful, housing is even worse.

moving could be very stressful . if a company said we'll pay you less but we'll help you pay your mortgage, that might be encouraging for some folks. just a thought.
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ImAMarvel
05/04/21 1:35:03 PM
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dolomedes posted...
i literally heard an assistant manager recently tell a co-worker 'i know you work very hard, but sales are up and we're gonna need you to work a little bit harder.' co-worker in question works 48 hours a week and is the only person doing the job (she has one day off where a part-timer takes over, but can't do all of the parts of the job). she asked if she could get help, manager said 'we can't add any hours, we're already over-budget.'

yup. service industry jobs are fucking garbage and i can't imagine why anyone would choose to do that their whole lives. the pay is shit, the benefits are shit, the drama is shit, and so on. just all around an incredibly shitty, stressful working environment that you don't even really get paid that much for. it's telling that most people who work in those jobs feel like you have to work a second one to get by

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dolomedes
05/04/21 1:35:20 PM
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Awards posted...
They always came home tired. The work is not at all easy. Anyone saying otherwise is lying.
people say the same thing about running a cash register or working with burning grease all day.

people just love to hate on labor.
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YourLovelyTina
05/04/21 1:35:25 PM
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CommonGrackle posted...
maybe if companies promised housing or something, that might get people to pick up and move.

yeaaaah, "company towns" are not a thing you want happening in the US

it's just slavery by another name

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What_
05/04/21 1:36:35 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
I mean....that would be the reason why.
This

pay people

greedy
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H0LD_Austin_Era
05/04/21 1:36:54 PM
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Most American corps tend not to pay that decent and milk the company before moving it to like Mexico.

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Tyranthraxus
05/04/21 1:37:05 PM
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I remember learning about this thing in school when I was just a wee lad about how when there is a shortage of a particular thing then the price for that thing should go up.

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PoundGarden
05/04/21 1:38:23 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Low relative to what exactly? I dont normally hear about factory workers struggling to survive because of lownpay compared to retail or fast food.

That's because they typically don't lol. I challenge anyone who thinks factory jobs are low paying bullshit to take a good look at the parking lot next time they drive by one. Hell o a lot of nice/new cars in there...

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LightHawKnight
05/04/21 1:38:26 PM
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PoundGarden posted...
As someone who has worked in HR and recruiting for a few factories, allow me to say you're completely full of shit.
Most factory work isn't "hard". Its mind numbingly boring and repetitive. Most "factory jobs" start at about $13-$18+ per hour.
The reason for the labor shortage is young people don't waaaaant to work in a factory and would rather fuck around with their friends at Target for $9/hr 20 hrs a week and bitch about it online. I cannot tell you how many dumb fuck teenagers walked out of orientation for $16/hr no experience needed jobs because "this seems boring".

And we wonder why China is fucking us into the dirt.

Teenagers never seem to join up, but the work is pretty tough. At least at the factory my mother works at. Lots of heavy machinery and lifting rather hefty stuff all day.

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Questionmarktarius
05/04/21 1:39:05 PM
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CommonGrackle posted...
moving could be very stressful . if a company said we'll pay you less but we'll help you pay your mortgage, that might be encouraging for some folks. just a thought.
There's companies that do that, just not "blue collar" ones.
Instead, this will end up being "company towns" like we had a hundred or so years ago, where your pay is conveniently almost exactly what your rent for the company-owned apartment and provisions from the company-owned store are costing you, and losing your job also means losing your lease.
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The Trent
05/04/21 1:39:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfgs9FRD25M

looks like a pretty nurturing work environment if you ask me

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Awards
05/04/21 1:39:59 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
the work is pretty tough. At least at the factory my mother works at. Lots of heavy machinery and lifting rather hefty stuff all day.
This is what it was like for my parents too. A lot of lifting and bending. It's back-breaking work.

My mom ended up developing a lot of joint and back pain.
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H0LD_Austin_Era
05/04/21 1:40:11 PM
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I worked 12 hour shift work in my late 20s for a short time and the pay was not bad. Most younger folks don't wanna put in the work it seems these days.

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