Board 8 > Anagram Ranks 145 Waifus: The Top 22

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azuarc
07/20/21 6:40:29 PM
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Anagram posted...
Next Up: A waifu who spends a long time thinking about a boy

That could be Kaede (Shuichi), Zelda (Link), probably Claire though admittedly I know little about RE...but probably not Sonia. Unless you want to argue that she thinks about Kazuichi in terms of how to politely stay away from him.

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RaidenGarai
07/20/21 6:45:52 PM
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Sonia thinks about Gundham

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Uglyface2
07/20/21 8:27:54 PM
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azuarc posted...
That could be Kaede (Shuichi), Zelda (Link), probably Claire though admittedly I know little about RE...but probably not Sonia. Unless you want to argue that she thinks about Kazuichi in terms of how to politely stay away from him.

It sounds like a reductive description of BoTW. Im amused.
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LeonhartFour
07/20/21 11:53:03 PM
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I mean what fictional heroine isn't always thinking about a boy am I right

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07/21/21 12:52:54 AM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
X is the best and the main character has the same VA as Fiora.
I didn't know that lol

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07/21/21 12:54:13 AM
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xp1337 posted...
yes

X and 2's DLC Story (Torna) are way better than Xenoblade 1 (imo).
I probably would play those games, but I have way too huge a backlog. When I finish this waifu topic, I plan to start a playthrough topic of a game B8's been telling me to play for a while now.

azuarc posted...
That could be Kaede (Shuichi), Zelda (Link), probably Claire though admittedly I know little about RE...but probably not Sonia. Unless you want to argue that she thinks about Kazuichi in terms of how to politely stay away from him.

RaidenGarai posted...
Sonia thinks about Gundham
I actually did not think about Kazuichi, I was thinking of Gundham when I wrote the hint. Not saying that Sonia is next up, just saying that I knew the hint applied to multiple waifus.

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Mac Arrowny
07/21/21 1:25:19 AM
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It's gotta be Zelda since she thinks about Link for 100 years in BotW. That's the only one I'd count as "a long time"
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azuarc
07/21/21 1:57:37 AM
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I wouldn't say Sonia thinks a lot about Gundham. She spends time with him in chapter 4, sure, but she doesn't linger on him.

I also may have been thinking of fanfic when I was considering Kaede, since the main one I've read is literally about her leading the group with Shuichi dead in chapter 1, and her constantly lingering on that as she tries to move forward.

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Mewtwo59
07/21/21 2:33:38 AM
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Anagram posted...
Mac Arrowny posted...
X is the best and the main character has the same VA as Fiora.
I didn't know that lol


Mac left out the part where the main character is a custom avatar, and one of the voices for the female option is Fiora's. It also has Shulk's voice as an option for a male avatar.
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07/22/21 12:28:51 PM
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For complicated reasons, I need some input here. What's a better waifu hair color, blonde or red? We're only talking about anime 'basically yellow' and 'way redder than real life redheads' here.

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07/22/21 12:56:31 PM
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Blonde ez

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07/22/21 4:50:46 PM
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Normally blonde. In this context, probably red.

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07/22/21 5:00:27 PM
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4. Zelda

Series: The Legend of Zelda
Nominator: changmas (0/4 remaining)
Personal Familiarity: Yes
Attractiveness: 74 (38/145)
Personality: 87 (4/145)
Girlfriendness: 90 (8/145)
Overall Waifu Score: 83.6
Hair: Blonde (2/57 remaining)
Eyes: Green (1/22 remaining)
Race: White (2/61 remaining)
Age: 15-19 (2/62 remaining)
Medium: Video Game (3/85 remaining)

Princess + Nerd Girl. Done.

Thank you, changmas. Thank you so much for specifying Breath of the Wild, and not just Princess Zelda in general. Trying to rank a gestalt of all of Zeldas appearances would be a big nightmare, and this really saves me from that. And yes, this goes without saying, but this is the best version of Zelda. She doesnt even really have competition. Sorry, strangely emotionless Twilight Princess Zelda! Youre maybe in the top three girls of your own game, after Midna and the butterfly chick.

This is unrelated, but when I think of video game princesses, I think of Zelda before Peach. Am I the only one? And man, Nintendo has really upped its waifu game over the last ten years. I think of the great pre-2010 Nintendo waifus, and its really just Samus, Lyn, and maybe Rosalina.

So, Zelda is a princess, which means she has all of the negative princess attributes Ive mentioned before but shes also a rebellious princess, meaning most of them are negated or muted. This is further compounded in her favor by the fact that she is very specifically a scholar who researches ancient super technology. For waifu job ranking purposes, Im just going to count that as an especially important archeologist. You know, thinking on things really hard, archeology is probably a bad field for a waifu, since theyll be gone a lot. It sort of edges into adventurer territory, in fact. But Ill allow it, because I think the positive princess attributes more than balance things out. In fact, Id say that scholar is one of the best possible waifu jobs, because anyone who makes waifu ranking lists is going to have way more to talk about to a scholar than, say, a pirate or a ninja or knight or whatever. Like, I get the appeal of a really physically active waifu who runs around and has adventures and can kick your ass, I get it and thats completely valid. But if youre being honest with yourself, ask yourself who youre more compatible with, that girl or the cute blonde scholar who likes nerdy crap, books, and overly-complicated toys.

I didnt consider this until just now, so it didnt affect Zeldas ranking, but I just realized that not having a last name is going to be a giant problem. Zelda wont be able to sign up for anything online, she cant get a credit card Im only imagining problems here. How did Prince do it? Very curious.

I think the big defining thing that sets BotW Zelda apart from her reincarnations, and the thing that helps catapult her up this list, is her personality. Aside from SS, shes the only Zelda to really have much of a personality, and it changes everything. Adorable smart girl who lacks confidence sometimes and stumbles over her words when shes with the boy she likes, but is determined and helpful regardless is A+ material. Im counting Zelda as a nerd girl, which makes her the highest-ranking one on the list over Chiaki, but she also has the benefits of being a princess. Its like an unstoppable combination. Probably a good decision to make her lean toward princess visually, though. If BotW was set in like modern New York or something, shed totally have braids and glasses or something.

By the way, I dont really know how to factor this in, so I just gave Zelad a bonus to her Girlfriendness based on having the Triforce of Wisdom. I assume that gives her good judgment most of the time, even if the games dont really bear that one out.

Did you know that this is the only version of Zelda to wear pants? The only other one who wears pants is Tetra, who stops the instant she learns shes a princess, and also loses her tan. Big mistake, Tetra. Big ****ing mistake. I guess I could technically hold poor fashion choices against this version of Zelda, since it might apply through reincarnations, but Ill let this one slide. And yes, BotW Zelda does wear a dress during formal events, which, fine. As for BotW Zelda only, yeah, shes pretty. Bonus points for blonde hair and green eyes my favorite of each. I have green eyes myself, though only brown hair. I like how shes going for practicality, so she wears a tunic, but its the most elaborate tunic ever, because shes a princess, and she doesnt seem to quite realize it. I might be reading too much into things, but whatever. I like the British accent (by the way strangely large number of British accents on this list? I want to say its the most common after American and Japanese?), where shes clearly upper class but not preposterously so, like Lunafreya.

One funny thing about Zelda is that, aside from maybe Daisy, Rosalina, and Tifa if you count spinoffs, shes the waifu on this list with by far the most appearances, yet she probably has less dialogue than any other waifu in the top ten except Tae. Does this matter? no.

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07/22/21 5:00:31 PM
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Next Up: A waifu associated with a primary color

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07/22/21 5:15:41 PM
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azuarc
07/23/21 9:38:48 AM
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Claire vs Danganronpa, the final showdown.

Not sure what primary color you'd associate Kaede or Sonia with, unless pink counts as a primary color. Claire Redfield just seems way too freaking obvious, though. Either blue = sad or blood in Danganronpa is pink and therefore it replaces red as primary or...or...I don't know. Yeah, sorry, I don't know how that clue works as a fake-out. I'm going to assume it's Claire until Anagram surprises us.

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07/23/21 9:39:48 AM
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I'm surprised Zelda got such a high rating, but I've never played botw so they must really make her different

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Raka_Putra
07/23/21 9:43:31 AM
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Best DR2 Girl and Best DRV3 Girl in Top 3. Anagram has impeccable taste.

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07/23/21 12:11:00 PM
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2 danganronpa waifus as the top 2 leaves a bad taste in my mouth

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07/23/21 12:20:30 PM
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Raka_Putra posted...
Best DR2 Girl and Best DRV3 Girl in Top 3. Anagram has impeccable taste.

What? Miu is still in?

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07/23/21 12:31:40 PM
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2 danganronpa waifus as the top 2 leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Same, I quit after 2 because it was pretty mediocre but I do have to admit that Sonia was pretty enchanting. I don't know anything about Kaede but her design does strike all the right notes at least

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SSBM_Guy
07/23/21 12:48:10 PM
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I can't stand BOTW Zelda's British accent lol

I have a lot of issues with the overall writing of DR, but they are very good at writing waifus. Sonia and Kaede are both good choices. I don't know if I would put them at #1 or #2 though...!

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07/23/21 4:45:11 PM
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Kaede, imo, has all of Sonia's good qualities, while having an actual personality and not being some pleasant NPC-esque "ultimate princess." She actually tries to do things, literally taking charge of the group and attempting to bring them out of the killing game. Certainly my favorite of the DR protagonists, even if she has to share her game with Shuichi.

I also think Kaede is better looking, for as much as the two are practically identical.

https://overlord-of-ice.tumblr.com/post/632498850798747648/cottagecore-sonia-nevermind-kaede-akamatsu

I should note that this doesn't necessarily make her the better waifu, but it does make her the better character.

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07/24/21 4:02:06 PM
#375:


Mega Danganronpa V3 spoilers

3. Kaede Akamatsu

Series: Danganronpa
Nominator: azuarc (0/4 remaining)
Personal Familiarity: Yes
Attractiveness: 85 (14/145 tie)
Personality: 83 (6/145 tie)
Girlfriendness: 91 (6/145 tie)
Overall Waifu Score: 86.3
Hair: Blonde (1/57 remaining)
Eyes: Purple (0/8 remaining)
Race: Asian (0/58 remaining)
Age: 15-19 (1/62 remaining)
Medium: Video Game (2/58 remaining)

I'll just say this immediately: as I went along, I did a lot of rejiggering of the scores. Kaede, Claire, and Sonia were each #1 at some point. As far as I'm concerned, they're all perfectly valid options, as are most of the waifus in the top 10 to top 20. This probably goes without saying, but any waifu whos gotten this far is top tier, so theres no shame in only getting third.

By the way, the clue referred to Kaedes last name, which means passionate red maple tree. Was I cheating with that? Yes.

Before I go on, I just want to complain about Danganronpas official height and weight translations. The Japanese games list Kaedes height as 167cm, but the English translation is 58, which I know is 173cm. I know this because thats my height. Translating height numbers is the easiest thing in the world, how do you screw this up?

Lets just get Kaedes looks out of the way. Obviously, she hits every thing I like in a waifu, except shes got purple eyes instead of blue or green which I will allow, since purple eyes are technically real. I also very much appreciate how she wanted to establish that shes the Ultimate Pianist, so she wears music note bobby pins and a music note short skirt. Thats dedication. Actually, why does almost every girl in this series wear such short skirts? The only exceptions are Toko, who has a long skirt, Hiyoko, who has a kimono, and Aoi, who has short shorts. I mean, I know the real answer is sex appeal, but there are so many girls in this series who should logically be wearing pants. Ill allow it this time, because at least Kaede doesnt have some kind of really active skill (Im reminded of Chie from Persona 4 flipping around with her short skirt), but its still suspicious. But look, in all seriousness, what youve got here is a waifu with long, deep blond hair, a light color scheme, lots of cute, silly sprites, and not quite generic anime cuteness going on, which is everything I like in an anime waifu.

Kaedes personality is a little more complex, though. If shed been exactly what you think shed be, if thered never been a twist at the end of chapter 1, then shed probably be in the 90s. She could evern have been #1 on the list. Because Kaedes smart, capable, optimistic, empathetic, has a ton of presence and charisma, is canonically into introverted weirdo boys who like dark colors, and has a super take-charge personality. Imagine being such a natural leader that you can convince everyone not to kill each other even if it means theyll probably die, including a serial killer. Thats Kaede. So, if were talking purely about strength of personality waifus, Kaede is probably #1.

But Kaedes also the first person to crack under pressure, isnt she? Among all of the Danganronpa waifus on this list, shes the only murderer. I guess Maki and Miu tried to kill people, though. Anyway, point is, Kaedes a giant ****ing hypocrite. And worse than that, shes also kind of manipulative? Its one thing to snap under pressure and kill someone without thinking, but she invents a whole complicated plan well in advance to trick a boy who likes her into being an accomplice to murder. Like, I get it, shes under a uniquely bizarre circumstance and needs to do something, but she goes about it in basically the worst way imaginable in a way that reveals really nasty things about herself. And yes, she kills someone on behalf of everyone else, to try to save fourteen other people, which is a pretty compelling mitigating circumstance, and she just admits to it to save everyone else instead of trying to save herself, but her judgment is just the absolute worst. Which is a problem, since shes so damn charismatic that she can talk you into doing basically anything. Like, the only time in the game the others turn against her is when she tries to convince them to enter the super death trap maze four times in a row, and even then, they're just like 'no, but you're still our leader.' And she's devoted enough to doing the right thing that she'll even get down on her hands and knees to beg Miu for help, the second most annoying person in the universe.

And yet, the fact that Kaedes actions legitimately are (intended) for everyone elses benefit, and she legitimately never does anything greedy except wildly overestimate her own abilities goes a long way in redeeming her. Like, within the context of the game, its extremely easy to see why everyone is still obsessed with her after her death, and shes still talked about until the final case. No ones lamenting the perverted chef's death five cases later. So, Kaedes perfection cracks and her judgment falters when other peoples lives are on the line, and while a wacky bear-themed killing game is unlikely to come up in day-to-day life, she just has such a sense of justice that doesn't really allow for being talked out of things, and combined with how she knowingly manipulates people, even when it hurts her to do so... I guess I'm saying that it's possible to see Kaede do other morally questionable things when placed in extreme circumstances, so I dont know. Kaedes a really interesting corner case as far as waifus go, and you can really justify wildly varying Personality scores for her.

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07/24/21 4:02:17 PM
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I guess I should mention Kaede's Girlfriendness, which is way more straightforward. Ultimate Pianist is a pretty strong waifu job. Its not quite as strong as doctor or Olympic athlete, but its very, very good. Thats gonna impress people, thats gonna be a reliable source of income, and thats not going to require endless time moving around away from home. I guess that does mean youll have to find room for a giant piano, though. I dont know, my apartment is only so large, and I can hear my neighbors cat run around next door. I can only assume that a huge ****ing piano is not going to be allowed. And thats not even considering how youd get a piano through the door. I legitimately dont think its possible, and even if it is, it would take up like a third of the non-bedroom. I guess my point here is that piano has to be the most expensive, impractical, and annoying musical instrument to take care of. Does someone who knows more about music than I do disagree? Like, near me, theres a harp store, where they have these like 5000-dollar harps in the window, and I look at them and think how are you still in business, who buys a giant harp, and pianos have to be a thousand times worse, right? But Im really just bull****ing you, if it comes down to it, I can find the room. This isnt even close to a dealbreaker.

In the end, like Chiaki, Kaede is perfectly-designed waifubait. Thats one of Danganronpas three greatest strengths: murder mysteries, a silly tone, and waifus. It always delivers on all of those things, but Kaede still stands out as one of the strongest waifus, designed by expert waifologists in a laboratory for this purpose. The hilarious thing is, like Chiaki being designed as the perfect waifu within the logic of the game itself, Kaede is also designed that way within the game itself. So, I think basically everyone can admit that Kaede's an extremely powerful waifu, not just in Danganronpa, but in the all-time Hall of Waifus.

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07/24/21 4:03:23 PM
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Next Up: A waifu

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07/24/21 4:08:24 PM
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100% has to be Claire

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07/24/21 4:46:31 PM
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Great reflection on Kaede.
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07/27/21 6:16:36 AM
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Kaede is such a #girlboss
I really enjoy her role in the story a whole lot.

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07/27/21 4:00:24 PM
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Claire is cute I hope she wins

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07/30/21 7:37:09 PM
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Tonight

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07/31/21 1:38:03 AM
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2. Claire Redfield

Series: Resident Evil
Nominator: Snake5555555555 (0/4 remaining)
Personal Familiarity: Yes
Attractiveness: 85 (14/145 tie)
Personality: 92 (1/145)
Girlfriendness: 83 (11/145)
Overall Waifu Score: 86.6
Hair: Brown (0/22 remaining)
Eyes: Green (0/22 remaining)
Race: White (1/61 remaining)
Age: 20-29 (0/59 remaining)
Medium: Video Game (1/58 remaining)

When I started this list, I figured Claire would end up in the mid-high range. Somewhere in the 20-30 area. But the more I really thought about her, the more I realized what a high tier waifu she really is. The more I thought about Claire, the more pro-Claire I became. Slowly, I came to realize that I was all-aboard the Claire Express, even though I'd never really thought about her as a waifu ever before. Claire has almost everything I want in a waifu, except her terrible homophobia, but I guess we can work through that. I want to just address that really quickly before we go on. Claire encounters a Psycho-esque crazy guy who dresses up as his own sister, murders people, and runs an evil corporation that makes monsters, and the best insult shes got is to scream You crossdressing freak at him. So, Claire is losing a few points just based on that, Im sorry.

I should say before we go on that Ada and RE1 Jill are hotter, but Adas the most untrustworthy person in the world, and Jill is an adventurer, so Claire is still by far the best RE waifu. Jill also eventually dyes her hair blonde, in what might be the only case in the universe of a waifu being better as a brunette. Also of note: for purposes of this ranking, I used sort of a gestalt of Claires appearances, since her series ages in real time, so weve seen her from 19 to 40-something. Honestly, though, even at 40, shes still hotter than most waifus.

So, its notable that Claire got #1 in personality. The entire list, and I gave her #1. And not even by a small amount, too. Whys that? Well

I appreciate how Resident Evil gives its five main characters distinct personalities. Leons like a sarcastic prettyboy, Chris is a big dumb guy, Jill is really determined and professional but still a little empathetic, Adas just a straight femme fatale, and Claire Claire is super caring, empathetic, hardworking, and just. Like, I dont quite know how to express this, but theres this certain archetype of female character where no singular personality trait is strongly expressed compared to the others, but just the way theyre written feels very strong woman-ish? I can give examples more easily than definitions. Ashe from FFXII is another example of one. And Claire is the best example of it I can think of. Although, Ill admit that Resident Evil 2 would be far more hilarious if Leon had to take care of a little girl and Claire had to deal with an evil Bond Girl.

I guess thats another thing about Claire, shes really nurturing? Like, she instantly forms a connection with Sherry in Resident Evil 2, and is ready to risk everything for her. I respect that, thats cool. Anyway, point is, Claires good with kids. Always a good trait in a waifu.

What makes Claire good as both as waifu and a character is that shes actually pretty relatable. In a series where everyone is like a soldier or a cop or a spy or a mercenary or something, and in a list with an endless supply of princesses and adventurers, Claire is just a normal person. Even when she decides to fight monsters, her strategy is just to join an anti-bioterrorism organization and campaign against stuff. So, she wins a lot of points for being someone whom you, as a normal person, can conceivably keep up with. I also get the feeling that if a zombie apocalypse happens, Claire as my girlfriend has a realistic chance of getting me out of there? Whereas with Jill, Im definitely dying in the first act, despite Jill being better at fighting. And I say this knowing that of Claires three games, her boyfriends die in two of them Ill admit, though, Claire does sort of return the feelings of a seventeen-year-old when shes in her twenties. Thats not a good look on her.

If Claire has a weakness, its her job. Anti-bioterrorism activist is not on the same level as doctors and princesses, Im sad to say. Im not even 100% clear whos signing her paychecks. But its a fine, respectable job that only got Claire kidnapped by evil organizations twice. Ill concede that 83 might be high for something like that, but Im also factoring in things like Claire having the balls to enter a zombie city to rescue her brother, who is way stronger than she is, without hesitation. That earns her some girlfriend points, since Im assuming shed extend the same Im gonna rescue someone hand to her boyfriend as well. Yeah, a lot of waifus on the list would also do that, and I took that into consideration for most of them, but Claire in particular has the advantage of having actually done it and having a real world context for it. Its much easier to judge how waifus from the real world would behave in a situation than waifus from fantasy worlds would. The more 'real world' you are, the easier it is to judge you.

To be clear: Claire is the correct type of strong waifu, both in terms of being able to take care of herself in a crisis situation and having a strong will. She feels way more like a real person than 90% of the list. Shes not some kind of ridiculous anime character, and I say that having put a ridiculous anime character above her.

One problem with Claire as a girlfriend is the memes. In my mind, Chris Redfield is the meme version of himself, where hes constantly trying to get Leon or Ethan to **** his sister. I said this in my Resident Evil topic a while ago, but Ill say it again: Chris isnt a very compelling character, but hes easily the most memeable person in the series. Wesker is nothing compared to him. Can I just say, by the way, that Resident Evil has a serious problem with its protagonists being superheroes? Claire is the most normal of the main characters, and when she gets kidnapped and taken to an evil monster island in Revelations 2, her response is basically just to be annoyed at the inconvenience. The only time in that entire game that she shows fear is when mercenaries point normal guns at her. Thats scarier to her than literal monsters.

Anyway, Claire. Smart, capable, goodhearted, pretty, good with kids, likes ponytails, able to run around in Antarctica in skinny jeans a biker jacket, likes motorcycles, homophobic, owns a grenade launcher. Most of those things appeal to me.

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07/31/21 1:38:30 AM
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Next Up: The last waifu

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07/31/21 2:24:46 AM
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Noooooo, my #1 spooooooot!

Man you nailed pretty much everything though, great stuff! Especially how caring she is, that's always been my favorite aspect of her personality. And she's easily the most consistent main character of the series, even if Rev 2 was a little rocky in that department, it definitely wasn't enough to derail her entire personality. Plus she's older in that game so it's reasonable to assume she changed a bit.

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07/31/21 9:59:19 AM
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except her terrible homophobia, but I guess we can work through that. I want to just address that really quickly before we go on. Claire encounters a Psycho-esque crazy guy who dresses up as his own sister, murders people, and runs an evil corporation that makes monsters, and the best insult shes got is to scream You crossdressing freak at him. So, Claire is losing a few points just based on that, Im sorry.

I've never played RE games, so you'll have to tell me if it's this single line or if there's more to it. If it's a one-off line, it sounds like the guy is both a cross-dresser and a freak, so I don't see the problem or how this constitutes homophobia. If you're stapling the two words together, as though to say the implication is that all crossdressers are freaks, ehh, maybe, but I don't hear this and think homophobia in the slightest. There's something more than this, right? You wouldn't have brought it up if it was just this one-off line, would you?

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07/31/21 11:20:30 AM
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"cross-dresser" is itself an offensive term now

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07/31/21 12:09:53 PM
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I've never played RE games, so you'll have to tell me if it's this single line or if there's more to it. If it's a one-off line, it sounds like the guy is both a cross-dresser and a freak, so I don't see the problem or how this constitutes homophobia. If you're stapling the two words together, as though to say the implication is that all crossdressers are freaks, ehh, maybe, but I don't hear this and think homophobia in the slightest. There's something more than this, right? You wouldn't have brought it up if it was just this one-off line, would you?
No, I'm just joking around for fun. Claire does insult Alfred more than that, but that's the only line where she complains about his crossdressing. Although, she's clearly really creeped out by it in other scenes.

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"cross-dresser" is itself an offensive term now
I kind of figured, if only because I hadn't heard it in years.

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Noooooo, my #1 spooooooot!

Man you nailed pretty much everything though, great stuff! Especially how caring she is, that's always been my favorite aspect of her personality. And she's easily the most consistent main character of the series, even if Rev 2 was a little rocky in that department, it definitely wasn't enough to derail her entire personality. Plus she's older in that game so it's reasonable to assume she changed a bit.
Yeah, of the core five characters, I think Claire is the best. It could have been Leon, but he's just all over the ****ing place in terms of consistency.

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07/31/21 1:22:21 PM
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"cross-dresser" is itself an offensive term now

What's the proper term?

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07/31/21 1:43:06 PM
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wait I thought cross dresser was the preferred term when did this change

https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender

Cross-dresser
While anyone may wear clothes associated with a different sex, the term cross-dresser is typically used to refer to men who occasionally wear clothes, makeup, and accessories culturally associated with women. Those men typically identify as heterosexual. This activity is a form of gender expression and not done for entertainment purposes. Cross-dressers do not wish to permanently change their sex or live full-time as women. Replaces the term "transvestite".

So not homophobic either. Transphobic, probably though.

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07/31/21 1:57:24 PM
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Yeah, cross dresser used to be offensive but now it's the polite term. Kind of like queer.
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07/31/21 11:17:21 PM
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Code Veronica came out in 2000 when sensibilities were a bit different, so I mean, product of the times. Really don't think it merited mention.

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07/31/21 11:56:04 PM
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In Claire's defense, he was very obviously crazy since he was dressing up as his twin sister, who was presumed dead until the end of the first disc. There aren't a lot of ways you can express this without becoming long-winded except repeating, "You're crazy!"
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08/04/21 8:26:37 PM
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08/04/21 9:26:19 PM
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1. Sonia Nevermind

Series: Danganronpa
Nominator: Raka_Putra (Winner)
Personal Familiarity: Yes
Attractiveness: 88 (11/145 tie)
Personality: 88 (3/145)
Girlfriendness: 92 (5/145)
Overall Waifu Score: 89.3
Hair: Blonde (Winner)
Eyes: Blue (Winner)
Race: White (Winner)
Age: 15-19 (Winner)
Medium: Video Game (Winner)

And so, it comes to this: a secondary character of no particular importance, who does not affect the games story in any meaningful way. Briefly scanning the waifu list, the last girl whos less important than Sonia is Tae Takemi, who clawed her way up based on the strength of being a doctor. And yet, despite or perhaps because Sonia is really, truly not important to her game (and dont say shes the heart of the group or whatever), shes still the best waifu in the series and on this list. Its not even by a small amount, too. Shes almost three full points above the #2 girl.

Before I go on, I just want to say something that I love about Danganronpa and anime in general. I love the concept of a school for the most talented people on Earth, and then 47/48 of them are Japanese, and no one ever discusses it, because of course all the best people in the world are from Japan. Sonias the only exception, and I have to believe that its because they needed her to be a princess and didnt want to use a Japanese one. And dont bring up the black guy in the anime who dies in the first episode. Even I was shocked at how fast that guy bites it.

I was also going to make a joke about ranking video game Sonias, but to be honest, the only other one I can think of is Sonya Blade, whom I know nothing about besides her series. Ive played like eight minutes of Mortal Kombat in my entire life.

Normally, princesses fall into two categories. The first is princesses who are very regal and dont seem like normal people. The second is princesses who are rebellious and seem like normal people, but not that much like princesses. And note that a princess can be rebellious but still princess-y, like Garnet from FFIX. Part of Sonias extremely powerful waifu game is that she somehow merges both types without being rebellious at all: shes a princess and that informs everything about her, but there isnt that divide between her and a normal person (i.e. boring people like you and me). She has all the strengths of royal waifus, and all the strengths of normal people, and none of the weaknesses of either. Id say that makes her the perfect multiclass, but really, all of this is appropriate for someone explicitly titled as the Ultimate Princess.

I guess this goes without saying, but Sonia is, of course, physically exactly my type: tallish, blonde, a huge weeaboo, and hates plums. Shes nowhere near the hottest Danganronpa girl, and she doesnt even make it into the top 10 girls by attractiveness on this list, but she still really brings it. Ill say this, though: Sonia wears three outfits in the course of the series besides her swimsuit, and her normal clothes are by far the best. Im not even sure why, because they arent, like, particularly attractive. If anything, Id say that Sonias default outfit is kind of unattractive? Might be the color. And Im not sure whether this appropriately goes in Attractiveness or Personality, but Sonia has an extremely powerful expression game. Every face she makes is pure gold, every way she holds her hands is perfect. Sonia has perfectly mastered the cute, comedic, and vulnerable-but-not-helpless style of presenting herself.

Also, I like her hairbow with the shiny flecks in it. Sue me.

Also also, this didnt affect her rating, but in the time since I started this list, Danganronpa announced a new spinoff title where everyone just goes to the beach, and showed the sprites for all of the characters in swimsuits, and boy oh boy, Sonia has crazy wide hips. Am I insane for thinking that her hips are unusually wide in this image?



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08/04/21 9:26:32 PM
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Personality-wise, Sonia is pretty much the best. Lets even set aside the fact that she loves reading about serial killers, which is an interest I also share (I actually like reading about bizarre crimes, but serial killers fall into that broad category), and bad horror movies, which I love (little aside, Ive seen every Friday the 13th except the one where Jason is a slug, which I had to turn off because it was just unbearable). Lets also set aside how, as I said earlier, she has all the cool attributes of princesses, but doesnt imply the annoying divide between them and normal people that the rest of them do. Just looking at Sonia as a normal person irrespective of her princessness, shes just a cool person with easily relatable interests. She likes occult stuff, but she likes the kind of weird dark gothic murder-y occult stuff, and not astrology and tarot cards (my sister is into those things, so I know just enough about them to be annoyed). And as a princess, shes really good at just issuing commands and having them obeyed, which is great. Really, if I was going to criticize her in any significant way, it would be that she went on a fun roller coaster ride where she screamed in joy less than a day after three of her friends died.

Its also important that Sonia is written to have the perfect kind of I dont quite speak the language perfectly, so all of my dialogue is written slightly cutely kind of demeanor. Cute girls innocently saying horrible things because they dont quite have command of the language is always great. The important thing about Sonia is that shes a rare perfect fusion between adorable waifus and regal waifus, and unlike other princesses who try to do that, Sonia is very consistently both of those things, as opposed to a normally regal princess who occasionally slips up. Although, part of that is just because she imperfectly speaks Japanese and keeps saying silly things.

And as for Girlfriendness, again, I already covered this a bit, but Ill say it again: all the advantages of princesses, none of the disadvantages. A lot of this comes down to the fact that shes not the princess of a giant empire or anything, shes merely from a small country. How small? The game never says, but she mentions that its left off of maps a lot, so Im imagining like a Lichtenstein or something. I basically always just assumed that Novoselic wasnt particularly important on the grand stage, and is just sort of riding around, being a weird little place. And thats perfect, because it minimizes the inherent difference in class between the two of you. Also, really, can you imagine talking to your friends, and they ask what your girlfriend does for a living, and you say that shes a literal princess? The conversation is just over at that point. Youve won any girlfriend discussions forever, unless you have a friend whos dating an astronaut, and even then, you still have the advantage. And thats before you get into how Sonia is amazed and thrilled by extremely normal things like building sandcastles, or specifically wants to see what its like to have someone rest their head in her lap. Point is, despite being a princess, its not going to be some horribly complicated thing to get on her good side.

I actually deducted a few points from Sonia because she mentions that as a princess, shes occasionally kidnapped by terrorists, and hey, thats just a thing you have to deal with. Honestly, I want to know, how many times in history has a princess been kidnapped? It has to be pretty low, right? Because it comes up nonstop in fiction.

Anyway, one of her FTEs involves telling you that her husband legally needs to speak thirty foreign languages and understand economics, international law, and diagnostic medicine, and capture a legendary animal thats impossible to find, so that sounds like a lot of work. I hope she wont mind me padding the ol resume by saying that my knowledge of Spanish also lets me communicate in Portuguese and Italian. And even then, she says that even a legendary hero can only establish something resembling order and prosperity, so even in the worst case scenario, it sounds like her people will be satisfied if Im just sort of vaguely competent at what I do, rather than being actually worthy of being a king. Do you become a king if you marry a queen? I know in Britain, the husband of a queen is still just a prince. Is that a Britain thing or a Monarchy thing? Im too lazy to check. And if you marry a princess, do you have to live in her country? I ask because no matter what, it sounds like Novoselic is much smaller than Los Angeles. Its fine, though. Assuming its part of the EU, itll be super easy to go to other European countries as a tourist, right? Everything is so compact over there. The only country you can just go on a daytrip to here is Mexico, and to be perfectly blunt with you, Tijuana is worth visiting a maximum of one time. Its probably not even worth that.

All of that, and I didnt even mention that I assume princesses are super rich. I mean, she never states how wealthy her country is, but I have to believe that money is never an issue, right?

Okay, so basically, to sum it all up: Sonias one of the best waifus ever. Part of that might just be the result of being a side character, which means that she can basically have whatever wacky attributes the writer wants to give her, as opposed to actually important characters who need to have important elements that contribute to the story, and she just happened to get all of the great ones that make her a ridiculously solid waifu. I guess what it comes down to is that if you can nullify all of the negative elements of being a princess and master being cute and innocent while saying obscene things, then you really just cannot be reasonably beaten in a waifu ranking.


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08/04/21 9:27:20 PM
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Next Up: Nothing

Thank you, everyone, for following and contributing to the longest waifu ranking topic in Board 8 history.

The official finalized list:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19dm1bshy_1BMGiAgisHuuEjYupRxlf2jLu7AJtWAgmI/edit?usp=sharing

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08/04/21 10:13:52 PM
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Fun list, Anagram, highly enjoyed reading it!

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08/04/21 10:49:54 PM
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Sonia is the second most important survivor in DR2 imo.

Fun list! Disagree with a lot of the rankings, but the way they were done was mostly entertaining, if often inconsistent (Claire not getting penalized for going on adventures).
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08/05/21 12:06:10 AM
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Anagram posted...
I love the concept of a school for the most talented people on Earth, and then 47/48 of them are Japanese, and no one ever discusses it, because of course all the best people in the world are from Japan.
In the grand tradition of Danganronpa: No, that's wrong!

Angie is Polynesian.

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08/05/21 12:49:41 AM
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Snake5555555555 posted...
Fun list, Anagram, highly enjoyed reading it!
I'm glad people enjoyed it. I didn't expect such a big response.

Mac Arrowny posted...
(Claire not getting penalized for going on adventures)
I actually considered that, but she only voluntarily goes on one adventure, so I decided not to count it against her.

bwburke94 posted...
In the grand tradition of Danganronpa: No, that's wrong!

Angie is Polynesian.
Goddammit, I even knew that about her. Fine, 46/48.

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