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red_is_ash
04/14/21 4:30:10 AM
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Mexico is a beautiful country with fabulous people and food. However, there are big issues issue with the cartels and corruption that are holding the country down. What I don't understand is that according to a lot of statistics, Mexicans seem to work the longest hours, but are not that productive? Is there also an education issue?

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awesome999
04/14/21 4:33:48 AM
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Go back in time and stop Nixon from declaring the war on drugs
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gunplagirl
04/14/21 4:34:47 AM
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They're getting financially devastated by the third world nation to their north. Heck, it's such a shithole north of them that after an election, there was a failed coup and virtually no deaths of the right wing armed insurgents.

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Number090684
04/14/21 4:35:18 AM
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Education? Not quite. There is a oppression issue. Drug cartels are huge problems no doubt, but the US couldn't stop fucking shit up for some foreign countries in the past and they are still feeling the effects of that today. Look at what the CIA did to Nicaragua.
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Dark_SilverX
04/14/21 4:36:52 AM
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it already is

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awesome999
04/14/21 4:38:35 AM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
it already is

HDI wise, sure but not really
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DocDelicious
04/14/21 5:33:37 AM
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Short of starting a full-blown war against the cartels and criminal organizations? Probably nothing.

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Number090684
04/14/21 5:37:12 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
Short of starting a full-blown war against the cartels and criminal organizations? Probably nothing.

Seriously there would have to be a war to get rid of the cartels to try and restore any sense peaceful society there.
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2Pacavelli
04/14/21 5:47:13 AM
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They're actually already pretty developed

https://youtu.be/bCCzXUOdGHc
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red_is_ash
04/14/21 5:12:04 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
They're actually already pretty developed

https://youtu.be/bCCzXUOdGHc

The murder rate is extreme in the northern part of the country, and many places such as Los Cabos barely have access to water. Plus, there is a lack of trust in the law system. I don't consider that to be a developed country.

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Feline_Heart
04/14/21 5:14:21 PM
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Conquer some Central American countries and expand their borders

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Flamer_Blue
04/14/21 5:18:04 PM
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red_is_ash posted...
Mexico is a beautiful country with fabulous people and food. However, there are big issues issue with the cartels and corruption that are holding the country down. What I don't understand is that according to a lot of statistics, Mexicans seem to work the longest hours, but are not that productive? Is there also an education issue?
Mexico's biggest problem is the USA.

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TheGreatEscape
04/14/21 5:18:56 PM
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red_is_ash posted...
The murder rate is extreme in the northern part of the country, and many places such as Los Cabos barely have access to water. Plus, there is a lack of trust in the law system. I don't consider that to be a developed country.

what are your own personal standards to decide that a country is "developed"?

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red_is_ash
04/14/21 5:25:14 PM
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TheGreatEscape posted...
what are your own personal standards to decide that a country is "developed"?
  • Safety for Women/Children
  • Diversified Economy
  • Developed and Maintained Infrastructure
  • Low Poverty Rate
  • Functional Government, not controlled by cartels
  • Support for Education
  • Access to food and water for everyone

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Questionmarktarius
04/14/21 5:27:53 PM
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Legalize drugs. All of them.
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masticatingman
04/14/21 5:49:23 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Legalize drugs. All of them.
Even if the US did this, there would still be a huge black market for the drugs outside of the legal methods. Just because of price. This is already going on with weed in Cali. Not to mention, even if all drugs were legalized, I just couldn't see there not being severe red tape for a number of the harder substances. Wouldn't make any sense to fully legalize straight-up methamphetamine but still keep pill versions of amphetamines like Adderall under strict need of obtaining a doctor prescription/oversight.

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TheGreatEscape
04/14/21 6:02:08 PM
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red_is_ash posted...
* Safety for Women/Children
* Diversified Economy
* Developed and Maintained Infrastructure
* Low Poverty Rate
* Functional Government, not controlled by cartels
* Support for Education
* Access to food and water for everyone

Depending on how you measure this, you could easily disqualify a lot of countries currently regarded as "developed", including the USA and most of Europe.

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SPE
04/14/21 6:12:50 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Legalize drugs. All of them.

this.

after this has been addressed, their other big issue would be the middle income trap.

When it comes to population income and level of life, you have rich countries (eg Europe and Australia), and you have poor countries (eg India, China and Malaysia). The rich countries have the capital and market, the poor countries are cheap to produce goods, so they will get a lot of investment. This leaves the countries in the middle in a precarious position, they are not rich but also they are too expensive for the transnationals to want to produce goods there.

mexico had a shot with nafta, but then china happened.

their other shot, which will never happen too is to try to copy the Singapore model: just like. They became the gateway for European capital to flow into all of Asia thanks to their connection with the UK, Mexico could have been a gateway for europe to invest in all of Latin America and even the US thanks to Mexicos connection with Spain, but their corruption problem and their sheer size (SG is a tiny nation state) would make it difficult

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Questionmarktarius
04/14/21 6:14:16 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Wouldn't make any sense to fully legalize straight-up methamphetamine but still keep pill versions of amphetamines like Adderall under strict need of obtaining a doctor prescription/oversight.
Prescription-only didn't exist as a concept until 1938.
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Broseph_Stalin
04/14/21 6:20:02 PM
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Same thing every other wealthy nation did?
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Unsugarized_Foo
04/14/21 6:21:30 PM
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Take the kids at the border and create super soldiers

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red_is_ash
04/14/21 6:26:49 PM
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TheGreatEscape posted...
Depending on how you measure this, you could easily disqualify a lot of countries currently regarded as "developed", including the USA and most of Europe.

I knew someone was going to say this. The US, despite its faults is not an undeveloped country. 99% of people in this country have normal lives and the basic necessities. If you take an average American person and then an average Mexican person, the American would be much better off.

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SPE
04/14/21 6:34:38 PM
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cuh posted...
Start by abolishing machismo Catholicism

the us is the worlds superpower despite the evangelicals (eg televangelists, prosperity gospel, Westboro Baptist church, etc)

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TheGreatEscape
04/14/21 7:24:29 PM
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red_is_ash posted...
I knew someone was going to say this. The US, despite its faults is not an undeveloped country. 99% of people in this country have normal lives and the basic necessities. If you take an average American person and then an average Mexican person, the American would be much better off.

I'm not trying to say the US is on par with like Eritrea or something, but contextually one could definitely make a case that the US has a huge poverty and inequality problem relatively to how rich it is or that its education is very poor in many states, even compared to some developing countries and that access to food and water is also extremely unequal. This would also apply to many European countries like Hungary or Poland that would be regarded as developed.

Anyway, I'm not really feeling going into a huge discourse on the problems of the ethnocentric developmentalist ideology and how we define "good" standards of living, but let's just say that it tends to skew our view of other countries by making them look much worse than they actually are while obfuscating our own internal issues.

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JTilly
04/14/21 7:30:58 PM
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How exactly would legalizing drugs help develop Mexico into a first world country?

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DocDelicious
04/15/21 5:28:25 AM
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JTilly posted...
How exactly would legalizing drugs help develop Mexico into a first world country?

It wouldn't. It would send the cartels into a frenzy.

They're not going to roll over and say "well we had a good run guys!" just because drugs are suddenly legal. Extortion and kidnapping rates would skyrocket, and they'd be in a worse spot than they are now.

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Stalolin
04/15/21 5:35:28 AM
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DocDelicious posted...
It wouldn't. It would send the cartels into a frenzy.

They're not going to roll over and say "well we had a good run guys!" just because drugs are suddenly legal. Extortion and kidnapping rates would skyrocket, and they'd be in a worse spot than they are now.

I thought they just moved into legitimate businesses like avocados and shit? But then just use similar tactics on anyone who stands in the way of the gravy train.

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