Board 8 > This year's Homestuck Day surprise: WP reveals the Kickstarter nightmare.

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You can only see this if you were a backer, but if you care you probably were, lol.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game/posts/3159243

It's long and detailed, but it's basically what was leaked way back when: Odd Gentleman stole the money and ran.

In a hilarious twist, it looks like legally they have to say in this post that the leaks from back then when this came out as the cause were just "speculation and conjecture"...even though this admits it was all true.

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Well that's kind of a bummer surprise

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yeah I couldn't believe it when I saw the email.

There was a bit of drama that happened today that this is a response to. A few months back there was a blog post by someone claiming to have anonymous sources about Hussie mistreating artists, lying to TOG, and blaming him and the HS team for a lot of things. Basically accusing Hussie of being the exploitative one and going against most of the original leak from years ago. It's not really that implausible, but there's a lot of speculation involved. And some of it ended up being true! One of the accusations was that Hussie used TOG to work on the Act 7 animation, misuing Kickstarter funds to do so. And as we can see in this kickstarter email...that was partially true, except WP is saying this was a completely separate issue with a different payment source.

The HS team seems to maintain that the author of the blog post is a weird stalker who won't leave them alone. Well, today, a youtube blogger uploaded a video about the downfall of Homestuck, linking the blog and taking it as fact, and apparently did not reach out to the Homestuck team at all, which has them understandably upset. So this looks like it was deliberately made to clear the air in the wake of all that.

Homestuck - it's still a fucking mess!

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Well, today, a youtube blogger uploaded a video about the downfall of Homestuck, linking the blog and taking it as fact, and apparently did not reach out to the Homestuck team at all, which has them understandably upset. So this looks like it was deliberately made to clear the air in the wake of all that.

Homestuck - it's still a fucking mess!

This explains a LOT. I was incredibly confused in tags to see a bunch of people saying that "it came out that it was all Hussie's fault", and had no fucking clue how they could read this and come to that conclusion.

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Yeah, I understood right away why this backer email came out after I watched the Sarah Z video. (It's a good video by the way! She wasn't unfair in her representation but yeah I also don't think she had the whole story)

Paratroopa1 posted...

Yeah, I understood right away why this backer email came out after I watched the Sarah Z video. (It's a good video by the way! She wasn't unfair in her representation but yeah I also don't think she had the whole story)

I found the video earlier and she does have a pinned comment about the situation, so there's that at least.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

I found the video earlier and she does have a pinned comment about the situation, so there's that at least.

-Makes a video based on faulty information
-Leaves the video up as-is once new information comes to light, because taking it down or editing it would cost time and/or views
-Makes a pinned youtube comment that no one will read as a band-aid solution

Ah, the youtuber classic

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I mean I'll give Sarah Z some credit here - Gio's blog post was widely circulated amongst us weirdos who would still check in on Homestuck and its drama from time to time, and at least somewhat commonly accepted if only partially. Kind of similar to how ipgd's old blog post was? So it makes sense to include.

But the Homestuck fanbase has been going though such toxic drama with the staff (which goes both ways on occasion although the fandom has never been a stranger to launching witch hunts) that makes the decision to not reach out to the staff for info a really baffling choice. Now she's been put into a position where her video is immediately outdated.

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she's usually pretty good about research so that does indeed seem odd

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So update to this is that Sarah Z edited her pinned comment to say she received emails threatening legal action over parts of the video which uh...seems like some serious overkill to me.

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Why is everything around this great thing a garbage fire

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KamikazePotato posted...

-Makes a video based on faulty information
-Leaves the video up as-is once new information comes to light, because taking it down or editing it would cost time and/or views
-Makes a pinned youtube comment that no one will read as a band-aid solution

Ah, the youtuber classic

I've gotten to this point in the video and I would like to say that she is presenting both sides of this. She seems to be leaning towards the pro-TOG side but she's also giving the pro-Hussie side and pointing out that neither is to be taken as gospel.

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Not really a fan of both sides-ing issues that don't need it! Whether or not Hussie mishandled things in other ways, I have yet to see a refutation of the fact that TOG basically took the money and ran.

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did they really name a character yiffany longstocking

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Tom Bombadil posted...

did they really name a character yiffany longstocking

Yes. She's Jade and Rose's kid. Mmhmm...

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It sure has been a week for Homestuck news!

Well. I'm surprised to hear they have already washed their hands of it but the rest is expected.

If you haven't read Psycholonials, a large part of it is Hussie rationalizing this decision. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it - it's less of a "good story" and more Hussie aimlessly ruminating on toxic internet culture and leftist theory dressed up in a story about a clown egirl. It basically feels like reading Hussie's diary and should be taken with that expectation. Very good soundtrack by Clark Powell though so there's that.

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