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Alucard188
04/10/21 8:28:04 AM
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Started this up last night. I beat the original, but decided to hold off on playing Royal until now, because I didn't want to play it so close to the other one. I'm playing on hard difficulty, because merciless is apparently easier.

I'm also slightly disappointed that all of the pre-order and DLC bonuses get applied as soon as you touch the cardboard box. I just wanted to get the costumes, but now I have all the fucking things. That includes an extra 150, 000. Oh well, just means I won't have to grind for money to get personas immediately.

Anyways, I just got Ryuji's persona. Going to play some more later.

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Alucard188
04/10/21 7:12:23 PM
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Game is _almost_ ready to open up. I just got Ann. Shit hits hard in hard mode. lol

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andrewl923
04/10/21 7:13:38 PM
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You don't need to grind for money in the game. Its much easier to earn money compared to base.

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Alucard188
04/11/21 9:05:01 PM
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That's Kamoshida down. I made it to his treasure in one day, then spent a week building stats and getting ready for the theft. He's not difficult, even on hard difficulty. Keep him debuffed and you're doing enough damage that you don't even need to steal his crown. I was level 11, with Slime carrying most of the debuffing load. Ann kept Ryuji healed (he bore the brunt of Kamoshida's assaults), while Morgana spent half the battle trying to steal the crown. EZPZ

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Alucard188
04/13/21 8:24:30 PM
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Not much of an update here. Level 12, and just unlocked Madarame's palace. Gonna get yaboi Yusuke soon.

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Irony
04/13/21 8:25:36 PM
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Romance Kasumi or shut the fuck up

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Jabodie
04/13/21 8:26:13 PM
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Just played royal myself as my first p5 play through. Good stuff

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Alucard188
04/15/21 9:17:26 AM
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Level 17 now, and most of the way through Madarame's palace. Having Yusuke in place of Morgana is great for my SP. I can't help but feel the difference in motivations between Kamoshida and Madarame, though.

Kamoshida: Implied rape, physical abuse, mental abuse, coersion.
Madarame: fraud, vanity.

It makes the hand wringing done by Yusuke seem forced, but as a dude wholly committed to art, seeing his father figure and Idol so malformed in front of him must be soul crushing.

Thanks to the seeds, they're making it more apparent than in vanilla p5 that the palaces are reflective of the seven deadly sins; Madarame is greed, and Kamoshida is lust. At least that's what it seems like so far.

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Jabodie
04/15/21 6:15:19 PM
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Plot question for later in the game (-MAJOR base game spoilers-) *no royal spoilers*

When Akechi killed Okumura's shadow, how did he time/delay his mental shutdown to occur during the press conference? Or did he actually kill his shadow during the press conference, tracking it down in Mementos? Meaning the way the killing is presented in game is more metaphorical than literal.

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Irony
04/15/21 6:20:55 PM
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Jabodie posted...
Plot question for later in the game (Palace 5) *no royal spoilers*

When Akechi killed Okumura's shadow, how did he time/delay his mental shutdown to occur during the press conference? Or did he actually kill his shadow during the press conference, tracking it down in Mementos? Meaning the way the killing is presented in game is more metaphorical than literal.
Unknown don't think about it. Also there are some plotholes that don't get addressed until literally Strikers.

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Jabodie
04/15/21 6:22:13 PM
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Irony posted...
Unknown don't think about it. Also there are some plotholes that don't get addressed until literally Strikers.
I was just curious because the SIU director phone calls clearly show the timing is very intentional. I guess there are just some secret methods only Akechi knows and I'll leave it at that.

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Alucard188
04/15/21 7:34:44 PM
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My understanding is the mental shutdown isn't immediate. Considering that the shadow returns to the person, and the palace disappears soon after, Akechi would have had to kill him almost immediately after they claimed the treasure.

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AvlButtslam
04/15/21 7:39:14 PM
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I loved this game
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Irony
04/15/21 7:48:07 PM
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Alucard188 posted...
My understanding is the mental shutdown isn't immediate. Considering that the shadow returns to the person, and the palace disappears soon after, Akechi would have had to kill him almost immediately after they claimed the treasure.

He did immediately do that, we see it happen. As for shutdowns being immediate Kobayakawa's was clearly immediate as it happened as he was going to confess to the police

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MadDewg
04/17/21 3:58:28 AM
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Game of the decade right here. Really loved persona 5's playable cast the most out of all the persona games.

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Alucard188
04/17/21 7:40:52 AM
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Smashed the fuck out of Madarame last night. I ended up trying the fight twice. The first time I failed to navigate the weaknesses of his summons, and he decided it was a good idea to exploit the weaknesses of my team, which resulted in everyone but Joker dying in the first round they were summoned. The second time I fought him, I used a Masukakaja item, which made everyone dodge his attacks. Skull and Fox used their physical AoE attacks to deal mass damage to his summons until I worked out how their weaknesses operated. Madarame went down pretty easily after that.

Level 19 Joker now.

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Jabodie
04/17/21 12:51:47 PM
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I don't gotta tell ya how to access the new semester, right? <_<

Also play darts and get the billiards bonuses early. On darts: it's easy to finish games yourself, but if you leave some points up you'll get a dialogue opportunity to have your partner finish the game, which will get them to level 3 baton on the first go. I would just look up the correct options to save time >_>

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Alucard188
04/17/21 11:44:44 PM
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Sadayo Kawakami: Call me by a payphone to make it look like you're not calling me directly.
Also Sadayo Kawakami: *Text message* HI MASTER UWU

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Irony
04/17/21 11:45:52 PM
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Her jawline is very prominent. Prefer her teacher hair and outfit

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Alucard188
04/18/21 7:27:16 PM
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I like how early on, you can see a development of a twisted desire in Sae. She lashed out a Makoto for her fanciful daydreaming about their Dad's "justice", then blamed it on being tired, and earlier when she chided Makoto about her future and how hard it is for a woman to make it anywhere in society.

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Alucard188
04/20/21 9:19:00 AM
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I just unlocked Kaneshiro's dungeon. Haven't played much further than that. Rolling with a level 22 Joker, Queen, Mona, and Panther. I need more levels so I can fuse the Regent and Queen's Necklace persona to something useful. Leanan Sidhe is pretty good right now.

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Alucard188
04/21/21 7:54:07 PM
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I have the free DLC costumes, and I purchased the pack for the new character when it was 50% off on PSN a few months ago. I'm going to say it...

I don't like the costumes in this game.

I want 2 things out of costume sets: That they make sense in context with the game/character, and that look better than the base costume. Atlus took the lazy way out and just made costumes that wanked themselves off. There's no reward for unlocking them, and they look _terrible_. Like, the only ones that look even remotely interesting are the Catherine and P5D ones.

I miss being able to unlock costumes.

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Alucard188
04/21/21 11:00:21 PM
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Got my first fusion alarm as I exited Kaneshiro's palace, having secured a path to the treasure. I itemized a Pink Buster gun for Panther, fused a powered up Isis, and got a failed itemization for a Megido skill card. Having Almighty this early on in the game will be nice for me. I'm currently level 27.

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YellowSUV
04/22/21 1:57:24 AM
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There are some costumes that I do like such as Raidou for Joker. However, too many costumes are just plain school uniforms from other Persona and Megami Tensei games.


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Alucard188
04/22/21 8:53:35 PM
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Time to pour out a 40 for my homie Piggytron. He's a real G.

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Alucard188
04/24/21 10:13:29 AM
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Finished up Kaneshiro's arc in the plot, and "maxed" the Temperance commu. Gonna friendzone the fuck out of Kawakami, but had to get her lovers arc first. Now on to the smelly NEET.

Edit: Flag 2 about Sae's distorted cognition revealing a palace. Makoto reflecting on how Sae has changed from when she started as a prosecutor; saying how there's nothing for you but to succeed as an adult. Her drive to prove herself forced her to lose a lot of the petty idealism that their father passed down to them.

Going through the story again after beating the original gives a new perspective on the individual characters. Now we're seeing level 2 of Akechi's betrayal. Level 1 was when he mentioned pancakes, when only Morgana spoke of them. Now he's bringing up a connection with the mental shutdown phenomenon and the phantom thieves, when the SIU Director and the "Future Prime Minister" were just discussing how to frame the narrative so as to put the phenomenon on the Phantom Thieves themselves.

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Alucard188
04/26/21 12:07:48 AM
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That's Futaba's palace taken care of. I remember her boss giving me much more of an issue in vanilla P5 before I realised that the first phase was more of a "survive" than "win" stage. I fused Arahabaki for the fight, and switched to him when Wakaba did her divebomb attack. It pretty much dropped her HP in half, and activated her second phase almost immediately. Futaba showed up and basically turned the fight into a set piece. Went down pretty damn easy, even on hard.

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Alucard188
04/27/21 11:38:12 PM
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Kids just started second semester. Now's about the time when I start to develop an irritation with Ryuji. Fucker has a big mouth and doesn't get the idea of what the Phantom Thieves are supposed to be. Glad they'll be getting their reckoning soon, because they've become too full of themselves. I mean, Ryuji and Ann have. Everyone else seems more level headed.

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Alucard188
05/01/21 8:55:04 AM
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It's interesting just how public cognition has changed with regards to the Phantom Thieves. It shows just how warped the public's desires are becoming. They're right to suspect that it isn't normal. I don't think it's all Shido, either. As much as he's using cognitive psience to his advantage, not even he would be able to manipulate everyone on a macro sense.

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Alucard188
05/01/21 9:50:12 AM
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Depends on how much you want to replay the experience from the beginning. I'm close to starting Okumura's dungeon, and I can't remember enough of how P5 operated to know what was in it and what wasn't. If you want to replay the story, then go ahead and play this version.

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Alucard188
05/02/21 4:36:19 PM
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Made it through to the treasure room of Okumura's palace. Just need to send the calling card.

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Alucard188
05/02/21 8:53:40 PM
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Damn, Okumura is frustrating as fuck. His bots keep running before I can finish them all off. I ran out of time because his HP sponge fuckheads wouldn't die fast enough.

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AvlButtslam
05/02/21 8:58:05 PM
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That one was pretty hard. I understood the battle mechanics but couldnt do enough damage in time. I ended up changing the difficulty for it.
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MedeaLysistrata
05/02/21 9:00:27 PM
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You can buy psi attack items from the laptop in your room if you repaired it, that's one way to make the fight easier (trivial even) without dropping the difficulty.

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AvlButtslam
05/02/21 9:06:19 PM
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I actually turned the difficulty up, because I read it increases your elemental damage. Seems to have been true.
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Alucard188
05/02/21 9:09:47 PM
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AvlButtslam posted...
I actually turned the difficulty up, because I read it increases your elemental damage. Seems to have been true.

I'm developing a bit of a rhythm about the fight. I need to exploit baton pass more effectively, and make use of the elemental break abilities that everyone else has. You can't bullrush your way through the battle on hard difficulty.

I need Marakunda. Of course Ghirimekala has it. Looks like I need to fuse that fat fucker.

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Jabodie
05/02/21 9:11:40 PM
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I made a few personas for that fight. Even then i had to rely on Hifumi's switch out.

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Alucard188
05/02/21 9:18:00 PM
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Jabodie posted...
I made a few personas for that fight. Even then i had to rely on Hifumi's switch out.

It's not even a matter of "relying" on it - you _need_ to use it to maximise your effectiveness. I start out with Noir, Queen, Joker, and Panther. Once I've dealt with the first 2 waves of fodder, I swap Panther out for Mona, because the next 2 are weak to wind. The big guys are weak to Psio, so I can probably swap Mona back out for someone with more DD capability. It helps that I have that Pinch tactic that allows me to use abilities that are normally used only when surrounded, as Thermopylae is amazing.

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Phantom_Nook
05/02/21 9:22:45 PM
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I had to exit the battle and go grind Mementos for 3 levels and make Persona suited for the battle. It's also the only time I ever used those items that do element damage.
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Alucard188
05/02/21 11:16:14 PM
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There. Beat him this time after a few trial and errors. I was level 46 for the fight. You only have 2 rounds per senior executive suite before they run/destroy themselves and refresh the units, so I ended up using a preceding turn to buff myself. I then used the first turn to get them down to half HP using whichever person deals the weakness (Haru, mostly), then use the 2nd turn to finish them off, with Panther doing a coup de grace with her exceptional magic stat.

Now to watch it all crumble.

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Irony
05/02/21 11:21:23 PM
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I thought he was easy in vanilla, but struggled in Royal for some reason

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