Poll of the Day > How Does PotD Feel About Vaccine Requirements?

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Cobalt_Wasps
04/04/21 8:51:33 PM
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How Does PotD Feel About Vaccine Requirements?


many international laws are in the works to require covid shots in order to travel.

how does PotD feel about this further step towards totalitarianism?

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Judgmenl
04/04/21 8:58:29 PM
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Sure, I don't see why not.
Not like I leave my house anyways.

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Clench281
04/04/21 8:59:35 PM
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Requiring vaccinations for international travel to certain regions is not a new concept. Countries rightly have a right to refuse entry to walking petri dishes

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ParanoidObsessive
04/04/21 9:45:27 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Countries rightly have a right to refuse entry to walking petri dishes

A shame certain countries don't do it more often, honestly.
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streamofthesky
04/04/21 9:47:53 PM
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Why is it the same people that complain about illegal immigrants not respecting the laws of the countries they enter tend to be the same ones that think they have a god-given right to enter other countries whenever they want, that country's laws be damned?
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ParanoidObsessive
04/04/21 9:55:15 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Why is it the same people that complain about illegal immigrants not respecting the laws of the countries they enter tend to be the same ones that think they have a god-given right to enter other countries whenever they want, that country's laws be damned?

Because humans as a species are sort of designed to psychologically assume our own upbringing and world-view are inherently and objectively correct, so we can judge all world cultures and ideologies based on how they conflict with what we believe.

Ethnocentrism is an outgrowth of egocentrism, and it's pretty much hard-wired into our psychology. And the sort of people who will swear blind that they're not biased in that way are almost certainly some of the worst examples of it (which is where hypocrisy comes in as a concept).
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papercup
04/04/21 9:56:24 PM
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Vaccination needs to be 100% mandatory. Anything less is wrong.

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streamofthesky
04/04/21 9:59:27 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Because humans as a species are sort of designed to psychologically assume our own upbringing and world-view are inherently and objectively correct, so we can judge all world cultures and ideologies based on how they conflict with what we believe.

Ethnocentrism is an outgrowth of egocentrism, and it's pretty much hard-wired into our psychology. And the sort of people who will swear blind that they're not biased in that way are almost certainly some of the worst examples of it (which is where hypocrisy comes in as a concept).
Oh, I already knew the answer to "why?" (hypocrisy, cognitive dissonance, and what you said, probably also some narcissism).

Just felt like rhetorically asking an Armor Piercing Question so the far right trolls of the board could go apoplectic over it.
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Zeus
04/04/21 10:12:32 PM
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Cobalt_Wasps posted...
many international laws are in the works to require covid shots in order to travel.

how does PotD feel about this further step towards totalitarianism?

If it's a restriction involving travel between nations where the nation you're entering requires it, it's hardly totalitarianism. Nations are free to admit whoever they want.

If it's a restriction against leaving a nation, then that's generally totalitarian. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian nation is not letting non-criminals who want to leave the country do so. And it should be up to the nation they're entering to decide whether or not a person should be able to enter.

streamofthesky posted...
Why is it the same people that complain about illegal immigrants not respecting the laws of the countries they enter tend to be the same ones that think they have a god-given right to enter other countries whenever they want, that country's laws be damned?

Why is it that people opposed to issues try to strawman people who hold those views?

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adjl
04/04/21 10:27:14 PM
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Zeus posted...
If it's a restriction against leaving a nation, then that's generally totalitarian. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian nation is not letting non-criminals who want to leave the country do so. And it should be up to the nation they're entering to decide whether or not a person should be able to enter.

That said, international travel includes both leaving your current country and entering a new one, and it's generally a whole lot more practical to prevent you from leaving your original country than to turn you around after arriving at the border of your destination one, especially when looking at air travel.

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ReturnOfFa
04/04/21 10:31:15 PM
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"biological manipulation" lmao

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wwinterj25
04/04/21 10:33:40 PM
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Shot being required to travel is nothing new so eh.

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hockey7318
04/08/21 6:27:30 AM
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Zeus posted...
If it's a restriction against leaving a nation, then that's generally totalitarian. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian nation is not letting non-criminals who want to leave the country do so. And it should be up to the nation they're entering to decide whether or not a person should be able to enter.
What about the return trip? You leave for a country that doesn't require a vaccination for travel, but the one you just left requires one for entry. You're unvaccinated and are returning home, but you're not vaccinated so they won't allow you into the country. Why not stop you from leaving in the first place so you can take care of that shit first?
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Sarcasthma
04/08/21 6:30:25 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Cobalt_Wasps

lol

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Solid Sonic
04/08/21 7:11:07 AM
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My position is this: with how bad things have been for the last year I am in favor of any solution right now as opposed to none. I don't put my faith in a vaccine but a response to the situation at least has a chance of working and that's better than just sitting at home and praying everything just passes.

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SilentSeph
04/08/21 7:15:32 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/Cobalt_Wasps

lol
If only there were vaccinations that prevent getting banned

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Sarcasthma
04/08/21 7:20:32 AM
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SilentSeph posted...
If only there were vaccinations that prevent getting banned
Maybe one day...

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adjl
04/08/21 9:55:48 AM
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SilentSeph posted...
If only there were vaccinations that prevent getting banned

I'm pretty sure that's called "education," but unfortunately the efficacy is relatively low on that one. A lot of people receive it, but don't see any benefit.

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rexcrk
04/08/21 10:08:03 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Why is it the same people that complain about illegal immigrants not respecting the laws of the countries they enter tend to be the same ones that think they have a god-given right to enter other countries whenever they want, that country's laws be damned?
Hey-oh

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GGuirao13
04/08/21 1:16:20 PM
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I support vaccination, but not mandates.

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Sarcasthma
04/08/21 1:45:15 PM
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GGuirao13 posted...
I support vaccination, but not mandates.
You really should be more supportive of man dates.

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Metalsonic66
04/08/21 2:06:41 PM
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Dates are good for when you need a quality shit

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adjl
04/08/21 2:08:55 PM
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Dates are just plain good, and quite delightfully versatile.

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Metalsonic66
04/08/21 2:10:00 PM
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I eat pitted dates like candy sometimes

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adjl
04/08/21 2:24:03 PM
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I like dicing them up and putting them on Raisin Bran, usually along with diced dried apricots, sliced almonds, and coconut. For those days when I feel like getting 50g of fiber in one meal.

Also, sticky toffee pudding is amazing and I should really explore using pureed dates in other baked goods.

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Metalsonic66
04/08/21 4:43:43 PM
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Add them to your next batch of chili for some nitro fueled shits

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