Board 8 > The Binding of Isaac Repentance is out now (on PC)

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Lolo_Guru
04/12/21 5:42:29 PM
#51:


Finally can start on the new chapters today. :)
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skullbone
04/12/21 6:15:18 PM
#52:


Just beat The Beast with Isaac after getting Mom's Knife in the first treasure room and Poly tears later. Maybe it's time to start playing on hard again now that I'm used to the new stuff

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KommunistKoala
04/13/21 1:10:54 AM
#53:


tainted eden (character) is absolute insanity

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bryans7
04/13/21 1:09:20 PM
#54:


I unlocked Tainted Lost on Hard.

Got past the Horsemen, too. So, so close.

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skullbone
04/14/21 1:51:37 AM
#55:


Hot take:

The Beast is not a very hard boss

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FFDragon
04/14/21 3:43:12 AM
#56:


Dogma > Mother > Beast in terms of hardness imo

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Lolo_Guru
04/14/21 10:56:38 AM
#57:


In the new content, Mother was a very fun fight. And after you beat it, go do the Isaac's Awakening challenge, that was a ton of fun with a very powerful item unlock as a reward.

And I did make it to Dogma once, but had too many rotten hearts in my health, and it did not go well. Also I missed unlocking a tainted character as I didn't understand what to do, I do now, though
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CasanovaZelos
04/15/21 12:02:22 AM
#58:


I love getting simple combos that unexpectedly break the game. Isaac's Heart plus Mom's Knife didn't immediately click with me until I hit the boss rush and realized I could just slam myself into every enemy for tons of damage with almost no risk.

The fixes for Isaac's Heart turned it from what I think felt like a joke item into something exceptional (though I may be misremembering?)

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skullbone
04/15/21 1:55:15 AM
#59:


I just did a Lilith greed run where I got the battery that charges when you do damage, the seraphim familiar, meat, and GUILLOTINE. I had no item that Lilith's active item also dupes guillotine so I had like 15 heads floating around my body, and 15 of every familiar.

Greed boss melted in like 20 seconds even with his damage reduction.

Then the coin machine broke after 4 coins on a 2% chance and I had 50 left to give

:-(

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Dark Young Link
04/15/21 11:14:49 PM
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Maybe it's just because I haven't played in a long time, but it feels like curses show up a lot more. On hard mode at least.

Dank Depths + Curse of Darkness is borderline unplayable.
Almost lost a run because I got Curse of the Blind on The Chest, and picked up My Reflection + Tiny Planet, and then later picked up a 9 Lives(In fairness that was from Super Pride and I just forgot what it could drop). Thankfully I had the actual damage to make it work.

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KommunistKoala
04/15/21 11:21:14 PM
#61:


hard is guaranteed curses every floor

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WazzupGenius00
04/15/21 11:52:27 PM
#62:


Im glad I maxed out the Greed Machine back when there were easy exploits for it, couldnt imagine grinding through that shit now

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skullbone
04/16/21 3:48:01 AM
#63:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Im glad I maxed out the Greed Machine back when there were easy exploits for it, couldnt imagine grinding through that shit now

I'm doing it now and it's actually not that bad because you can skip the first devil deal and basically guarantee angel rooms for the rest of the run now.

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Dark Young Link
04/16/21 3:50:35 AM
#64:


Honestly don't think anything could be as bad as launch Greed Mode. Aka, "Machine constantly jams after 3-4 coins".

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CasanovaZelos
04/16/21 2:05:52 PM
#65:


Having just failed a Greedier run with the Lost, I remember how much I hate damage scaling in this game. Like, there are so many minor design choices in this game I don't understand. Like, cool, they want the boss to still be hard even with an overpowered build. But it feels like it completely negates certain builds entirely, simply shifting more power to fire rate over attack. It's sort of exhausting going through a 20 minute run where I stomp over everything, only to lose 9 lives fighting the final boss because the game decides my mega attack can only do one damage per shot.

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Dark Young Link
04/16/21 3:19:01 PM
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CasanovaZelos posted...
Having just failed a Greedier run with the Lost, I remember how much I hate damage scaling in this game. Like, there are so many minor design choices in this game I don't understand. Like, cool, they want the boss to still be hard even with an overpowered build. But it feels like it completely negates certain builds entirely, simply shifting more power to fire rate over attack. It's sort of exhausting going through a 20 minute run where I stomp over everything, only to lose 9 lives fighting the final boss because the game decides my mega attack can only do one damage per shot.

And that's with the boss's ability to heal....

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CasanovaZelos
04/16/21 10:41:41 PM
#67:


I somehow got three psy fly runs last night and they were all successes - it might just be the strongest item in the game? And unlike some of the other super items, I can't think of any potential drawbacks or conflicting synergies. It just straight up negates 90% of the most serious damage sources, especially from the final bosses (though I'm not sure if it will do anything for Greed?).

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CasanovaZelos
04/18/21 12:06:10 AM
#68:


Finally beat Greedier Mode as The Lost, largely thanks to becoming guppy with the help of Devil's Crown, the trinket you unlock for beating Mother with Azazel which makes treasure rooms give Devil deals instead. Still took a few lives to manage, but I did it! Which, I had already unlocked Godhead on the console version, so I hate having to do that again...at least I managed to beat Delirium while getting really lucky on a basic Cathedral run

I then followed that up with a Lilith greedier run and got the double active battery and the battery baby, so that was absurdly easy. I finally maxed out the greed machine, too.

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KommunistKoala
04/18/21 12:42:35 AM
#69:


bumbo might be stronger than the final boss

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KommunistKoala
04/18/21 7:03:31 PM
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CasanovaZelos posted...
I somehow got three psy fly runs last night and they were all successes - it might just be the strongest item in the game? And unlike some of the other super items, I can't think of any potential drawbacks or conflicting synergies. It just straight up negates 90% of the most serious damage sources, especially from the final bosses (though I'm not sure if it will do anything for Greed?).
after breezing through chest and delirium with jacob and esau of all characters thanks to psy fly, i can agree with this

if only i killed one more angel couldve added mega satan to that list too

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Lolo_Guru
04/19/21 3:57:24 AM
#71:


Did some really fun multiplayer on this yesterday with my bro.

And then today, I've been working hard on the Lost's hard completion marks. Down to 4 left, Boss rush, Hush, and the two new bosses. Had a run make it to Mother with 17 extra lives but didn't dodge well enough
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skullbone
04/19/21 1:02:13 PM
#72:


After like 4 hours yesterday I finally unlocked The Forgotten. Azazel with flaming ludovico allowed me to dodge while I just planted it on bosses. Still barely made it though!

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skullbone
04/21/21 7:16:52 PM
#73:


Okay I've unlocked all of the tainted characters except Tainted Lost and I think I'm finally starting to lose interest again. Probably got about 20 or 30 hours out of the update which is good enough for me.

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DeepsPraw
04/22/21 12:16:13 PM
#74:


ughghghgh died to It Lives during the daily. fuck

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WazzupGenius00
04/26/21 12:52:18 AM
#75:


Had a decent build and enough spare health lying around on a floor with a Sacrifice Room that I decided to warp to Dark Room to try and get the 20 minute clear unlock. Ended up getting into a regular-sized room with two Super Prides. That might actually be the most unfair scenario I have ever run into in this game. I don't think any amount of speed would let you avoid that many super troll bombs.

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Earthshaker
04/26/21 6:05:02 PM
#76:


I'm trying to go through one challenge a night, and I never finished some of the older ones.

Still to do: Ultra Hard, Pokey Mans, Pay to Play, Blue Bomber, Onan's Streak, and like one other I've erased from memory.

Assuming some of the rest of the new ones unlock when I get Keeper/Bethany/Jacob

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WazzupGenius00
04/26/21 6:12:53 PM
#77:


got my win streak-related unlocks done, except for the Daily Challenge one

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FFDragon
04/26/21 6:38:57 PM
#78:


There are some weird chain unlocks too. Like one of the better new challenges you have to complete one of the victory lap achievements to unlock a pill. Then you have to use the pill five times in one run to unlock an item.

Once you unlock the item you unlock the challenge too

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Xiahou Shake
04/26/21 7:11:34 PM
#79:


Finally got my first Hush kill - I'm legit scared of how tough Delirium must be if he was that much of a pain. Getting close to finally being able to start the Repentance content proper.

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FFDragon
04/26/21 7:15:54 PM
#80:


Delirium is still the hardest boss by far.

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Lolo_Guru
04/27/21 2:21:15 PM
#81:


Delirium is still chaos card-able to 1 and done, whereas most other tough bosses have phases. I actually think Ultra Greedier and Mother are tougher fights overall.

And I'm not just saying that because of the many hours grinding to get those lost marks. Down to two marks left for him, Boss rush, and Hush. In afterbirth +, I generally just rerolled the shop a ton if I wanted to fight them but no restock machine... :(
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KommunistKoala
04/27/21 3:03:34 PM
#82:


but he's immune to the chaos card isnt he

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WazzupGenius00
04/27/21 3:54:52 PM
#83:


Yes, it is immune along with The Beast

Also I thought I heard Ultra Greedier doesnt have damage scaling anymore so hes not so bad. Havent tried Greed Mode at all myself since the update

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CasanovaZelos
04/27/21 4:08:35 PM
#84:


WazzupGenius00 posted...
Also I thought I heard Ultra Greedier doesnt have damage scaling anymore so hes not so bad. Havent tried Greed Mode at all myself since the update


That was an accident and was 'fixed' in the latest patch - it was weird having Greed mode briefly be fun...okay, who am I kidding? Even that wasn't enough. The first floor is absurdly difficult and could be easily fixed, and it's stupid that they haven't done so already. I swear, 90% of my Greedier runs end before they begin. There's no reason to even try without a strong starting item (depending on the character), which itself requires a key spawning. Like, it'd be as simple as having the first golden door unlocked.

Like, I'm usually big on artistic intent over caving to audience demands and all that, but they have to understand it's a problem when the first floor borders on impossible at times and everything else feels reasonable before spiking to an absurd degree at the end. I honestly think the first floor of Greedier mode might be the hardest part of the game (again, depending on the character), and the only reason people don't realize is because we get to immediately retry.

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FFDragon
04/27/21 6:34:15 PM
#85:


I don't have internet right now so I'm still on the good patch for Greedier and I'm grinding the unlocks I don't have so I never have to touch it again.

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bryans7
04/27/21 6:48:08 PM
#86:


Been picking away after unlocking all the tainted characters. Just finished Challenge #44 by cheesing it so that was fun.

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CasanovaZelos
04/27/21 6:54:36 PM
#87:


I got the most broken Lilith run I've experienced yet. Tractor Beam negates her blindfold (which might have been changed with this expansion?), and then I ended up with max normal tear rate + cancer as a trinket. And then I got lucky enough to get a planetarium room with Neptunus. Even without using the box, I was shooting out an uncountable number of tears after not shooting for a second, all with full control over the trajectory. Tore through the boss rush, Hush, Mega Satan, and Delirium without much effort.

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WazzupGenius00
04/29/21 10:11:54 PM
#88:


Incubus's shots being affected by Tractor Beam is new, yes

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CasanovaZelos
05/01/21 1:02:19 AM
#89:


I managed to somehow beat Mega Satan as Tainted Lost...and the reward looks like a straight up permanent negative? Okay??

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KommunistKoala
05/01/21 3:19:24 AM
#90:


yeah...thats why i look up the unlocks before i do something so that doesnt happen

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Xiahou Shake
05/01/21 4:01:59 AM
#91:


Feels like I'm back in the saddle after having a tough time adjusting to how the major AB+ unlocks changed the game. Even got my second Hush kill with very little effort! Time to get ready for the next spike. >_>

But yeah purely detrimental unlocks seem really mean. Like the pills especially are enough of a crapshoot as it is without adding even more crap into the pool. Speaking of, though, am I understanding correctly that due to rune shards, it's no longer beneficial to hold back on rune unlocks? Or are they weighted in such a way that grabbing just the good ones is still helpful?

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WazzupGenius00
05/01/21 6:27:27 PM
#92:


I guess that unlock being a pure negative or not would depend on how their spawning is determined. If it just has a chance to replace a chest that was already going to spawn, that sucks, but if it gets its own spawn roll after a regular chest spawn roll fails then it's a positive.

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Xiahou Shake
05/01/21 11:37:26 PM
#93:


Do you guys have any kind of threshold where you'll abort a run that's going sufficiently badly? I'm all for pure skilling stuff but I've had multiple runs recently where I get down to the depths with no stat upgrades beyond HP and the game just becomes rough to play at that point.

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FFDragon
05/02/21 1:05:29 AM
#94:


I rarely hold R unless I've gotten super tilted, which does happen occasionally.

What I usually do is just start playing way more recklessly because if I die "who cares" and if I manage to pull out of the spiral then suck it game.

Like I've won runs by going into a curse room, leaving me at 1/2 heart, with no exit strategy.

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bryans7
05/04/21 4:20:23 PM
#95:


Finished The Beast with the Lost and Jacob.

Jacob wasn't really that hard it was getting there that was the pain.

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WazzupGenius00
05/04/21 8:10:13 PM
#96:


Just got pointed to a Northernlion video where he essentially solved how to mitigate Tainted Jacob's issue:

Using the Cleaver splits Dark Esau into two, and neither of the two actually turns Jacob into a ghost when they die.

Better make use of it now, seems like the exact sort of fun thing that Edmund will patch out of the game

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KommunistKoala
05/04/21 8:28:24 PM
#97:


you can also ||hit him with the eraser and he disappears forever|| but its certainly not as easy as that

now for that item to magically appear...

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Lolo_Guru
05/04/21 9:53:12 PM
#98:


KommunistKoala posted...
you can also ||hit him with the eraser and he disappears forever|| but its certainly not as easy as that

now for that item to magically appear...
hitting him with the eraser all on its own isn't actually good enough; he has to have taken enough damage first that the eraser's 15 damage would have killed him, and then it works and he won't exist anymore.

Anyway, progressways; I've managed to unlock each tainted character, and Godhead by completing the Lost's hard mode marks.

I'm not sure what my next goal is; I'm pretty much doing whatever run I feel like at the time when I play at this point; oft getting the new marks before the old ones... >_>

So who's everyone's favorite tainted character? I think tainted Eve's probably my favorite so far. I just love running around with a ton of clots around me; it feels so good.

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FFDragon
05/04/21 10:11:01 PM
#99:


I'm so happy I got godhead years ago. I still have to build up to lost runs again.

I really like tainted bethany for ridiculous stacks of items and tainted Cain for scrounging.

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KommunistKoala
05/04/21 10:18:10 PM
#100:


tainted judas' ninja shit and tainted bethany is just ridiculous(ly easy) so those are probably my top 2 favorite

tainted forgotten is also fun and tainted keeper is definitely an improvement on regular

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