Board 8 > Wifebolo's Ace Attorney adventure continues! [progressive spoilers AA5+]

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Update: The plan is to finish up this week, y'all. Then it's on to SoJ I'm pretty sure.

Thanks!

Good luck!

Llarian posted...

Update: The plan is to finish up this week, y'all. Then it's on to SoJ I'm pretty sure.

Thanks!

hope you have a lot of dedicated hours here

SeabassDebeste posted...

hope you have a lot of dedicated hours here

Possible I might have underestimated how long this will take. So, this week or next, with more consistent play? Idk. My goal is to just not ignore it for 5-7 days at a time, we'll start there

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze

Shih-na gives her version of events, Kay insists that he was dead when she entered the room and turned on the lights. She claims she saw Kay holding the murder weapon.

That ain't it, because the handles can be swapped out. We'll get into it later. This is a terrible update.

See you next time!

yeah E1-5 is a long one

Continuing to play this week. Thanks for reading, y'all!

What are your plans now that the weather is warming up? Which AA characters would you wanna bring along if you could?

I need Gumshoe and the girls [Maya, Pearl, Trucy, Ema, etc.] for a picnic in the park, with a huuuuge basket of all kinds of food.

My plans include having a baby within the next week

LeonhartFour posted...

My plans include having a baby within the next week

Heeeeey, congrats! Let us know how that goes!

I got let go at my job - good news is there is more time available to play AA, bad news is that I must consciously set aside time for it. Hoping all is well for this thread's readers and next post will be a game update.

Baby boy is home, and he and mom are both doing well. Being a dad is pretty cool.

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Leonhart4 posted...

Baby boy is home, and he and mom are both doing well. Being a dad is pretty cool.

Sweet!! Happy for you!

Team Rocket Elite posted...

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Thanks for saving the thread once more.

Have applied for unemployment, now I can set aside some time to keep playing as a treat for applying to jobs.

Hope the job search is going well.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

Hope the job search is going well.

Thanks very much! It continues.

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze

We go over to the Allebahst section and investigate. The cops in the lobby counted themselves off by 1s which I found hilarious. Lang still isn't being helpful but at least he's letting us look at things.

Larry Butz is the Steel Samurai and Wendy Oldbag is the Pink Princess, standing in when actress Mindy fell ill. We're still recovering from this information.

Miles notes that the identical fancy statue has been rotated from the position it was in - we have a photo of the Steel Samurai meeting Ambassador Alda near the time of the murder.

Larry's spear has obviously bonked on something, it's actually hollow and can't do any damage.

Asdf apparently Oldbag left some stuff in here but claims she had nothing to do with it. She just did the Samurai shodown, ate an alarming number of Samurai dog hotdogs, and that brings us to the present moment.

Suspect the stalker message was from Larry bc the writing matches his Steel Samurai autograph message to Miles?

We discover the fireplace where Oldbag was drying her undershirt is shared with the adjoining room! Troubling!

Investigation Complete

Miles claims Larry is lying. About what? We'll find out next time!

I hope you wanted more Oldbag and Larry

I will never forgive Japan for liking Oldbag.

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze

Not gonna lie, more of Larry and Wendy are somewhat welcome on my end. Do you ever wonder if Wendy was cute when she was younger? She behaves in a way that people would excuse if she was cute.

Larry does a quick run through on his day. Sounds like there's one possibility left - the precious gold statues in each side of the embassy are not allowed to be touched. Turns out through Luminol testing that the statue on the Allebahst side has blood residue, and a handprint on the bottom from Manny Coachen, THE VICTIM from the Babahl side!

It's getting wild now. See you tomorrow!

I have never wondered that, no

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Summer is officially here!

It is time to play more Ace Attorney. I will pick back up this week. Thanks for reading along.

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze

Ambassador Palaeno talks about how the Primidux Statue shows sovereignty, which is why each country's embassy insists theirs is the real one. Palaeno didn't know Manny Coachen was involved in a smuggling ring. Allebahst and Babahl were on the verge of reuniting if not for tonight's events. Allebahst has the real Primidux Statue.

Palaeno had given Gumshoe a Silhouette Lantern, which burns green with special Babahlese whitcrystal oil, the same substance involved in the Babahlese ink. Kay gives us a weird guitar Pick that's wet and Ms. Yew's Perfume that we saved.

We poke around the Rose Garden and figure out how the "Yatagarasu" could leave a shadow on the wall by lining up various statues with the spotlighting available. Does the Yatagarasu have an accomplice in Babahl?

We get a strange flying photo of the Yatagarasu. lol Lotta Hart reference?

Palaeno attests to green flames, but the bottle of Babahlese ink on Coachen's desk is still pretty full. We match the DeMasque II note shape to a notepad in Coachen's desk - he must have ordered the theft of Allebahst's Primidux Statue.

We use Little Thief to recreate the chaos. Plenty of things have changed since the fires. We find some Wire in the grandfather clock, the big green flame fire was probably caused by the Counterfeit Bills which are printed with Babahlese ink.

The embassies on each side of the building are symmetrical. The fireplace on the other side had a rotating wall. Shih-na came from the room next door after Kay found the recently late Mr Coachen and screamed. We suspect the person Kay was chasing used the fireplace to escape next door [where Shih-na came from, suspich].

The Logic parts here were a little finicky but we got 'em eventually. The ashes Palaeno expected to be there had been pushed into the other room, even more evidence of it being used as a passageway.

Investigation Complete

Gumshoe has the weird note examined by the lab boys, turns out it is in Coachen's handwriting. Edgeworth starts putting the screws to Shih-na on why she didn't see the "Yatagarasu" if she was right there in the next room.

Pretty nifty paired sprites here of Lang and Shih-na as they remove their sunglasses together and point at Edgeworth, claiming her innocence.

We'll have to figure it out next time! See you then!

This is a really solid part of the case.

AAI1-5, Turnabout Ablaze

Wow, y'all. I finished it. A good Miles Edgeworth Investigations was had by all.

Oh lordy Shih-na is Calisto Yew, also an alias! A funky lil' laughing person. We burn part of her coat and it burns green, therefore she did pass through the fireplace and is our person. Also we can compare any fingerprints to her old perfume bottle. Anyway, she confesses to being the Yatagarasu.

AND NOT ONLY THAT.

But the Yatagarasu is not only one person. Y'all. It is 3 people: Byrne Faraday, Calisto Yew, and Tyrell Badd. Between the 3 of them, they had access to all info needed to warn wrongdoers that their wrongdoings would be their undoing!

There's this great moment where Yew-as-Shih-na threatens to kill Kay, and then the camera shifts and Badd is pointing his gun directly at her. Lang jumps in front of the shot ['because she's still my subordinate']. Kay gets to keep some Hair Sticks after this interaction, but they're weird because they have dirt on them. Hmmmm.

Turns out Yew killed Faraday because the smuggling ring needed to get rid of the Yatagarasu. That's the only reason. Real smuggling ring boss is still walking free.

There's a whole bit where the Hair Sticks were supports for Alba's Passionflowers and they were used as Arrows to create a pulley system with the ceiling fans [increasingly unlikely but it's AA logic so it gets a handwave] and swap the Primidux statues.

We crack open the Primidux statue that feels light and liftable, and it's got Counterfeit Plates inside for printing Zheng Fa cashmoneymillions. Alba claims he got wounded while killing DeMasque II in self-defense. Suspich. He runs off and seems agitated. We poke around the lobby of the Theatrum Neutralis, connect some Logic points, realize Alba wanted to pin the smuggling on the now-deceased Coachen.

There's a pic of Alba and Palaeno with their respective flower bouquets and the Steel Samurai/Larry. Alba's bouquet contains the handle of the Allebahstian knife!!

We go through an exhaustive number of Testimonies with the Eternal Quercus Alba. He is not having it, but we figure out that Coachen was killed, stuck in a cart, and moved using the joined pool reservoir and Bilateral Symmetry of the embassy. I find it incredibly difficult to believe that cart with a dead body inside would float but AA asks us to believe it so fiiiiine.

We prove that the Allebahstian knife made the journey because the still-wet Pick is one of the flower petals on the handle and fell off!!

At this point Alba is still being a pain and claims he was at the Steel Samurai show so he couldn't have killed Coachen. He really slips by not only mentioning a special move that was only known among the crew and not used in the final show because of Larry warping the Spear, forcing them to use Sushi Slice instead.

The localization team really enjoys the phrase "peanut gallery".

There's a spot of Alba's blood on a box of Samurai Dogs, turns out the Dogs were in the cart and removed to make room for Coachen's body. The blood was from when he got poked. How did he get poked when no weapons are allowed in the Theatrum Neutralis, you ask? Because of the YATAGARASU KEY WHICH IS ALSO A STABBY KNIFE.

We end with a successful offscreen trial and a super chaotic-adorable selfie taken by Kay of herself, Miles panicking, and Gumshoe having a good time.

The little interviews during the credits are always a good time. I can now admit to y'all that I find Tyrell Badd mmm... handsome. Is it warm in here?

Case ranking time!
Case 4: Turnabout Reminiscence - fun to flashback and also fun to solve.
Case 5: Turnabout Ablaze - ending case but also had draggy moments.
Case 2: Turnabout Airlines - more traditional whodunit.
Case 3: The Kidnapped Turnabout - This one dragged even though it was fun to run around for a bit there.
Case 1: Turnabout Visitor - it's tough to rank the opening case higher than this, really. Unless there's something exciting or different that happens.

Thanks again to colliding for making the game available for me to play.

Next is Spirit of Justice! See you then!

Nice, taking down Calisto Yew is the peak of the case for me. The showdown with Alba could have been better, but I feel like they didn't develop the stakes properly and it just went on too long.

My case ranking is 5 > 3 > 4 > 2 > 1, but I don't think any case is particularly great.

wow, blasted through the ending!

agreed with leon abour yew and alba.

the yatagarasu has three legs

4 > 3 > 5 > 1 > 2

Our rankings are almost completely backwards.
3 > 1 > 2 > 5 > 4

4 is one of my least favorite cases in the entire series, propped up by the absolute worst AA character ever (Calisto Yew). Meanwhile, I have a soft spot for Lauren Pops and Jacques Portsman. Two of the most underrated characters in the franchise.

That said, now that you're done, congrats on powering through the worst AA game! AJ gets a bad rap, but at least it's memorable and has decent characters even though almost none of them are defendants.

After the Shih-na->Yew transformation into the standoff with Badd period of like 10 minutes, what's the second-most standout moment in the game? I really can't come up with a good one. Edgeworth diving out of the way of a gunshot? Kay blowing her nose in his cravat? Lang revealing that his accusation of Franny was a ruse?

I legitimately think it's when LeBlanc falls over the railing of the storage room in slow-motion. At least, it probably is for me....

Yeah, probably Yew's Gun-jection.

MrSmartGuy posted...

Kay blowing her nose in his cravat?

One of my favorite moments from this game.

MrSmartGuy posted...

propped up by the absolute worst AA character ever (Calisto Yew)

Want to hear more on this line of thinking. Have only ever seen characters take Miles Edgeworth seriously, so it was a little refreshing to see someone laugh in his face. She admittedly took that too far.

SeabassDebeste posted...

the yatagarasu has three legs

I should have had a non-gutter idea when I first read this but definitely didn't.

Aiming for SoJ later today, starting writeup tomorrow.

Calisto Yew is one of my least favorite characters in the series, but I also tend to dislike the laughing hyena trope (another reason I'm getting exhausted by the Buu Saga in DBZ, augh). They actually used it to great effect in the Shih-na reveal, so I'll give them that much.

I just found her gimmick super exhausting. Every time she started cracking up and making that lip-squeezing face, I was just like "yeah I know, I get it, please stop." But it never helped. She just kept doing it, like, a hundred times in a single case.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

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Thanks!!

AA 6-1 The Foreign Turnabout

Oh boy. Ahlbi Urgaid?! It's the Ace Attorniest!

Anyway there's this whole thing where we're in Khura'in but we're acting like we've never been there before?? Unless it's different because we were in the village and apparently this is a city? And Phoenix is back, but he's a tourist? And we haven't provided buy-in, the woman we run into who seems cute enough is actually an emotionless divine intercessor. Idk.

Turns out the court system in Khura'in is the priestess goddess lady figures out if you're guilty using special divination and choreography. No testimonies, no witnesses, and most of all, no cross-examination. Phoenix protests, almost gets the guide kid killed, and we're off and running!

We'll find out what happens next time. See you then!

Llarian posted...

Unless it's different because we were in the village and apparently this is a city?

Kurain Village, which is near Los Angeles, is a different place than the Kingdom of Khura'in which is a different country.

Yeah, Phoenix is traveling abroad.

TeamRocketElite posted...

Kurain Village, which is near Los Angeles, is a different place than the Kingdom of Khura'in which is a different country.

LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, Phoenix is traveling abroad.

Eyyyy, thanks y'all! Knew I could count on you. I was starting to think we clubbed Phoenix over the head again.

AA 6-1 The Foreign Turnabout

We are introduced to the Insight style testimony. There's a few moving parts, there's the visual element of what the victim saw before death, and then spooky floating words that waggle and change size represent the senses other than sight that the victim experienced.

We figure out that although the body ended up in the treasure room, Mr Rohl was not killed there. Something something power outage, speakers playing singing from another part of the temple, Ahlbi had his hands up bc of Rohl's gun being drawn, etc.

Each time Phoenix makes some fair objection, it erodes the integrity of the priestess Rayfa and sets her on a teenage meltdown and she's ejected from court. Wow, we don't usually kick the cute girls out of court in this franchise.

Woodstock Facepaint Sallman [looks like the Sallman painting of Jesus and has an awful name spelling that puns on "Peace, Love and Understanding"] has taken the stand and we'll have to see what he says [do I have to? he is unpleasant to look at].

Wife has reminded me that b8 appreciates theories in writeups. Suspect Woodstock Facepaint Sallman is the real killer? Rayfa is the real killer? Or Rayfa isn't it, but she witnessed it, and is invested in covering for the real killer?

Just once I'd love to see all this swirling around a natural but suspicious death. Poor coroner going, "No, really guys, it's just high blood pressure" or "It was a stroke" and all the AA characters ignoring her because they're focused on DID THIS MURDERER MURDER??

We'll have to see what WFS says next time. See you then!

What's so funny about Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin?

no aai2 makes me sad

aa6 is a ride

Happy Independence Day to all my Japanifornians out there

Shoot your fireworks, Apollo.

can you feel the Spirit of Justice flowing through you

LeonhartFour posted...

can you feel the Spirit of Justice flowing through you

Yes I can, although I have not felt it recently [thanks for saving the thread!!]

Been going on some interviews lately for job and got distracted. Later this week for sure!

good luck!

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What is it about job hunting that makes one feel like warm chewing gum on the bottom of a shoe. Wth.

Could use some generically kind and encouraging words please. Will post more regarding SoJ hopefully soon.

Gumshoe indeed! Like gum on your shoe, he's impossible to get rid of.

Job hunting is no fun, but keep at it. You'll get there!

Up we go

LeonhartFour posted...

Gumshoe indeed! Like gum on your shoe, he's impossible to get rid of.

Job hunting is no fun, but keep at it. You'll get there!

THANKS I got a job offer that I accepted and now am in talks with HR on next steps. :DDDD