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Solid Snake07 03/17/21 6:09:10 PM #1:	https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2021-03-13/bipoc-hiking-groups-southern-california Good news, it's now safe for blacks and latinos to go hiking! --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951817845] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>https://www.latimes.com/travel/story/2021-03-13/bipoc-hiking-groups-southern-california Good news, it's now safe for blacks and latinos to go hiking! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 03/17/21 6:10:45 PM #2:	This just tells me blacks and Latinos aren't dumb enough to walk through the woods just to say they walked through the woods. Hiking is dumb. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:951817910] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>This just tells me blacks and Latinos aren't dumb enough to walk through the woods just to say they walked through the woods. Hiking is dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 6:14:28 PM #3:	I'm just glad white hikers are finally getting their comeuppance for being so racist --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951818032] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>I'm just glad white hikers are finally getting their comeuppance for being so racist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PatrickMahomes 03/17/21 6:15:00 PM #4:	Crazyman93 posted... Hiking is dumb --- NFLB 2021 Summersim Roster (2-6): https://imgur.com/iSlti18 <cite>PatrickMahomes posted [p:951818051] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Crazyman93 posted... </cite> <quote>Hiking is dumb</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/17/21 6:17:06 PM #5:	So what are the odds that behind the scenes this is all just some sort of weird ongoing marketing push from companies like Timberland that are trying to diversify the number of people that buy ridiculously overpriced hiking boots? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:951818118] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>So what are the odds that behind the scenes this is all just some sort of weird ongoing marketing push from companies like Timberland that are trying to diversify the number of people that buy ridiculously overpriced hiking boots? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/17/21 6:18:01 PM #6:	Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:951818153] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeadBankerDream 03/17/21 6:19:50 PM #7:	There was a subscription wall? I could read the whole thing. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" <cite>DeadBankerDream posted [p:951818218] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>There was a subscription wall? I could read the whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/17/21 6:20:09 PM #8:	CyricZ posted... Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there. This story is part of our ultimate guide to hiking in L.A. You can buy a print copy at the L.A. Times store. Longtime oppression and historical barriers have kept many people of color from feeling comfortable in the American outdoors. Now that may be changing. Groups in Southern California and around the nation have made it their goal to introduce people of color to nature in a positive way. Their mission is to remove barriers and help people experience the connection, whether they are seeking fitness, healing, personal accomplishment or knowledge about all the outdoors has to offer. For many, the first step is going on a hike. Here are groups working toward a more diverse outdoors. Latino Outdoors: Christian La Mont, program manager of Latino Outdoors, a national organization with a Los Angeles chapter, calls the process of removing barriers the hike before the hike. The idea is that people of color see themselves represented on the trail. His first hike with the group was to Baldwin Hills Scenic Overlook in Culver City. He was encouraged by the families that showed up, the easy conversation that flowed between Spanish and English, and how group founder Jos Gonzlez welcomed everyone. The organization frequently collaborates with other hiking groups to bring a further sense of unity to Los Angeles. Latino Outdoors is utilizing the time in quarantine to connect with its community online, with live streams of hikes, tutorials and do-it-yourself scavenger hunts. Connect with Latino Outdoors at its Instagram @latinooutdoors. Hike Clerb: Evelynn Escobar grew up hiking with her tia. As she went on excursions in national parks, she felt out of place as a Black Latina and noticed that people looked at her funny. When she moved to Los Angeles, she decided to create a hiking community and started Hike Clerb in 2017 with an Instagram account and some friends. Her husband took their first group photo when they hiked in Griffith Park. Five years later, the account has more than 20,000 followers around the world as Escobar has empowered women of color to experience the nature that has fueled her. Our strength is in connecting with the outdoorsy girl who doesnt realize shes an outdoorsy girl, she said. Keep up with Hike Clerb on its Instagram @hikeclerb. The Black Neighborhood: In the moment of reckoning in America spurred by George Floyds death at the hands of police, Bryce Savoy was reminded of the need for the Black community to connect with mental health resources. He used his community outreach program, the Black Neighborhood, to host a hike in June in his native East Oakland and his current home in Los Angeles. We wanted to create or work toward creating community and creating spaces for Black people to just exist and decompress all of those things, just to feel and emote, he said. The group plans to host hikes every other month. Stay connected with the Black Neighborhood at its Instagram @theblackneighborhood. Black Girls Trekkin: Michelle Race and Tiffany Tharpe founded Black Girls Trekkin in 2017 after they found personal healing through hiking. The group, which works to create community and dismantle stereotypes about who belongs in the outdoors, now has more than 33,000 followers on Instagram. Follow them @blackgirlstrekkin. Outdoor Asian: Outdoor Asian is a national organization that seeks to empower Asian Americans to connect to the outdoors. Its Los Angeles Facebook group has 160 members; during the pandemic, the organization is spending time building its blog so people can submit articles about their experiences outdoors. Join the Facebook group @outdoorasianlosangeles. Disabled Hikers: Disabled Hikers, a resource center for those with disabilities who want to go outdoors, is based in the Pacific Northwest but is making inroads in California (the group has produced a trail guide for the Big Sur area). The group accepts trail guides written by members of the disabled community and has plans to expand its reach to other cities, including Los Angeles. Follow on Instagram @disabledhikers. American Hiking Society: The nonprofit group believes that the outdoors should be a place of healing and enjoyment for all. It has created a web resource with lists of Black, Indigenous and people of color hiking groups, contact information and more. Go to bit.ly/RacismintheOutdoors --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:951818230] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there.</quote> <quote>This story is part of our ultimate guide to hiking in L.A. You can buy a print copy at the L.A. Times store. Longtime oppression and historical barriers have kept many people of color from feeling comfortable in the American outdoors. Now that may be changing. Groups in Southern California and around the nation have made it their goal to introduce people of color to nature in a positive way. Their mission is to remove barriers and help people experience the connection, whether they are seeking fitness, healing, personal accomplishment or knowledge about all the outdoors has to offer. For many, the first step is going on a hike. Here are groups working toward a more diverse outdoors. Latino Outdoors: Christian La Mont, program manager of Latino Outdoors, a national organization with a Los Angeles chapter, calls the process of removing barriers the hike before the hike. The idea is that people of color see themselves represented on the trail. His first hike with the group was to Baldwin Hills Scenic Overlook in Culver City. He was encouraged by the families that showed up, the easy conversation that flowed between Spanish and English, and how group founder Jos Gonzlez welcomed everyone. The organization frequently collaborates with other hiking groups to bring a further sense of unity to Los Angeles. Latino Outdoors is utilizing the time in quarantine to connect with its community online, with live streams of hikes, tutorials and do-it-yourself scavenger hunts. Connect with Latino Outdoors at its Instagram @latinooutdoors. Hike Clerb: Evelynn Escobar grew up hiking with her tia. As she went on excursions in national parks, she felt out of place as a Black Latina and noticed that people looked at her funny. When she moved to Los Angeles, she decided to create a hiking community and started Hike Clerb in 2017 with an Instagram account and some friends. Her husband took their first group photo when they hiked in Griffith Park. Five years later, the account has more than 20,000 followers around the world as Escobar has empowered women of color to experience the nature that has fueled her. Our strength is in connecting with the outdoorsy girl who doesnt realize shes an outdoorsy girl, she said. Keep up with Hike Clerb on its Instagram @hikeclerb. The Black Neighborhood: In the moment of reckoning in America spurred by George Floyds death at the hands of police, Bryce Savoy was reminded of the need for the Black community to connect with mental health resources. He used his community outreach program, the Black Neighborhood, to host a hike in June in his native East Oakland and his current home in Los Angeles. We wanted to create or work toward creating community and creating spaces for Black people to just exist and decompress all of those things, just to feel and emote, he said. The group plans to host hikes every other month. Stay connected with the Black Neighborhood at its Instagram @theblackneighborhood. Black Girls Trekkin: Michelle Race and Tiffany Tharpe founded Black Girls Trekkin in 2017 after they found personal healing through hiking. The group, which works to create community and dismantle stereotypes about who belongs in the outdoors, now has more than 33,000 followers on Instagram. Follow them @blackgirlstrekkin. Outdoor Asian: Outdoor Asian is a national organization that seeks to empower Asian Americans to connect to the outdoors. Its Los Angeles Facebook group has 160 members; during the pandemic, the organization is spending time building its blog so people can submit articles about their experiences outdoors. Join the Facebook group @outdoorasianlosangeles. Disabled Hikers: Disabled Hikers, a resource center for those with disabilities who want to go outdoors, is based in the Pacific Northwest but is making inroads in California (the group has produced a trail guide for the Big Sur area). The group accepts trail guides written by members of the disabled community and has plans to expand its reach to other cities, including Los Angeles. Follow on Instagram @disabledhikers. American Hiking Society: The nonprofit group believes that the outdoors should be a place of healing and enjoyment for all. It has created a web resource with lists of Black, Indigenous and people of color hiking groups, contact information and more. Go to bit.ly/RacismintheOutdoors </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 03/17/21 6:22:17 PM #9:	Hiking is asinine. --- I just want to restore this world back to the natural. Bring order to this broken reality. To the way it should have been, all those many years ago. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:951818320] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Hiking is asinine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 03/17/21 6:22:23 PM #10:	I will never not read that acronym as "biopic" --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:951818326] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>I will never not read that acronym as "biopic" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 6:23:38 PM #11:	CyricZ posted... Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there. My loaded statements that minorities should be allowed to go outside? Guess we got our first "hiker" here --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951818372] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Sadly, it's not so important to call out TC's loaded statements that I buy a subscription past the paywall there.</quote> My loaded statements that minorities should be allowed to go outside? Guess we got our first "hiker" here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/17/21 6:24:56 PM #12:	DeadBankerDream posted... There was a subscription wall? I could read the whole thing. Maybe it's my location? I dunno. I could never read the latimes. s0nicfan posted... Thank you. The idea that companies are trying to sell overpriced hiking equipment to new demographics is possible, but given the spread of groups here, it doesn't seem all that likely in the context of the article, unless it's an advertising thing with the LA Times specifically, which I grant is not out of the question. And as to the main subject, I wasn't personally aware specifically of an aversion of people of color to the American outdoors, but I don't especially doubt it --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:951818419] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>DeadBankerDream posted... </cite> <quote>There was a subscription wall? I could read the whole thing.</quote>Maybe it's my location? I dunno. I could never read the latimes. s0nicfan posted... </cite> Thank you. The idea that companies are trying to sell overpriced hiking equipment to new demographics is possible, but given the spread of groups here, it doesn't seem all that likely in the context of the article, unless it's an advertising thing with the LA Times specifically, which I grant is not out of the question. And as to the main subject, I wasn't personally aware specifically of an aversion of people of color to the American outdoors, but I don't especially doubt it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/17/21 6:26:38 PM #13:	CyricZ posted... Maybe it's my location? I dunno. I could never read the latimes. Thank you. The idea that companies are trying to sell overpriced hiking equipment to new demographics is possible, but given the spread of groups here, it doesn't seem all that likely in the context of the article, unless it's an advertising thing with the LA Times specifically, which I grant is not out of the question. And as to the main subject, I wasn't personally aware specifically of an aversion of people of color to the American outdoors, but I don't especially doubt it Oh, I meant in a more abstract or indirect way. Like, I wouldn't be shocked to find that all these nonprofit advocacy groups are getting at least some funding from hiking retailers who would obviously benefit from more people becoming interested in hiking. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:951818479] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe it's my location? I dunno. I could never read the latimes. Thank you. The idea that companies are trying to sell overpriced hiking equipment to new demographics is possible, but given the spread of groups here, it doesn't seem all that likely in the context of the article, unless it's an advertising thing with the LA Times specifically, which I grant is not out of the question. And as to the main subject, I wasn't personally aware specifically of an aversion of people of color to the American outdoors, but I don't especially doubt it</quote> Oh, I meant in a more abstract or indirect way. Like, I wouldn't be shocked to find that all these nonprofit advocacy groups are getting at least some funding from hiking retailers who would obviously benefit from more people becoming interested in hiking. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/17/21 6:27:27 PM #14:	Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:951818511] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/17/21 6:29:21 PM #15:	Smashingpmkns posted... Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool. I'm guessing the TC took less of an issue with these groups existing and more of an issue with the way the LA times framed it, specifically their first sentence: Longtime oppression and historical barriers have kept many people of color from feeling comfortable in the American outdoors. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:951818572] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool.</quote> I'm guessing the TC took less of an issue with these groups existing and more of an issue with the way the LA times framed it, specifically their first sentence: <quote>Longtime oppression and historical barriers have kept many people of color from feeling comfortable in the American outdoors. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Squall28 03/17/21 6:29:43 PM #16:	Solid Snake07 posted... Good news, it's now safe for blacks and latinos to go hiking! Tbf, depending on the area, it is less safe for minorities. --- You can't go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending. -Misattributed to CS Lewis <cite>Squall28 posted [p:951818582] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote> Good news, it's now safe for blacks and latinos to go hiking!</quote> Tbf, depending on the area, it is less safe for minorities. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 6:29:48 PM #17:	Smashingpmkns posted... Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool. Yeah, that's the part about this article I'm mocking Lol --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951818588] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>Weird thing to get upset about. There's some pretty successful hiking and biking clubs here that started as a way to get Latinos out and exercising. They've diversified to other groups and have weekly rides down town. It's pretty cool.</quote> Yeah, that's the part about this article I'm mocking Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MabusIncarnate 03/17/21 6:33:49 PM #18:	I'll hike to get to a good, quiet fishing spot but not really more than 2 miles or so. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign, Twenty million starving and writhing in pain. =~=; Vicious_Dios Original - https://tinyurl.com/y9fpdoll <cite>MabusIncarnate posted [p:951818732] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>I'll hike to get to a good, quiet fishing spot but not really more than 2 miles or so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/17/21 6:35:01 PM #19:	National parks literally had "negro areas". It's not so out of this world for outdoor activities to be seen as extremely white. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:951818778] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>National parks literally had "negro areas". It's not so out of this world for outdoor activities to be seen as extremely white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RedJackson 03/17/21 6:39:01 PM #20:	Speaking as a latino I know lots of families that dont get hiking.. usually the idea of sleeping outside in a sleeping bag comes across as weird because some people spent a lot of their life in poverty and they see it as a matter of why would you sleep outside when I just got this nice house with a TV and windows to boot lol its great to remind them that its fun to be with the earth under your feet and that everyone can walk away with something Ive heard it dubbed as a white guy thing growing up.. I just thought well Im gonna do everything I wanna do --- https://imgur.com/e6aBSof - Pus_N_Pecans original! https://imgur.com/bve6U7T - Error1335 original! <cite>RedJackson posted [p:951818904] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Speaking as a latino I know lots of families that dont get hiking.. usually the idea of sleeping outside in a sleeping bag comes across as weird because some people spent a lot of their life in poverty and they see it as a matter of why would you sleep outside when I just got this nice house with a TV and windows to boot lol its great to remind them that its fun to be with the earth under your feet and that everyone can walk away with something Ive heard it dubbed as a white guy thing growing up.. I just thought well Im gonna do everything I wanna do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 03/17/21 6:42:02 PM #21:	s0nicfan posted... I'm guessing the TC took less of an issue with these groups existing and more of an issue with the way the LA times framed it, specifically their first sentence: It's true. Hiking and camping were specifically listed in my textbooks as stereotypical white activities back in high school/college. Well before people started ranting about wokeness. As a bit of anecdotal evidence, I'm black and I've def never been camping. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:951819007] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite> <quote>I'm guessing the TC took less of an issue with these groups existing and more of an issue with the way the LA times framed it, specifically their first sentence:</quote> It's true. Hiking and camping were specifically listed in my textbooks as stereotypical white activities back in high school/college. Well before people started ranting about wokeness. As a bit of anecdotal evidence, I'm black and I've def never been camping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/17/21 6:45:25 PM #22:	Smashingpmkns posted... National parks literally had "negro areas". It's not so out of this world for outdoor activities to be seen as extremely white. See that's where my mind was thinking, or the concept of people of color being out in the wilderness without any support as little as a few decades ago. The article doesn't elaborate, but I imagine if we do a little research we can find some stuff. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:951819139] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>National parks literally had "negro areas". It's not so out of this world for outdoor activities to be seen as extremely white.</quote>See that's where my mind was thinking, or the concept of people of color being out in the wilderness without any support as little as a few decades ago. The article doesn't elaborate, but I imagine if we do a little research we can find some stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 03/17/21 6:49:46 PM #23:	CyricZ posted... The article doesn't elaborate, but I imagine if we do a little research we can find some stuff. https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2019/08/how-national-park-service-grappled-segregation-during-20th-century Good article from a few years back. The OP article is poorly written but outdoor activity is still predominantly a white space. --- https://imgur.com/x04tPRZ https://imgur.com/t7T392I <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:951819299] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote>The article doesn't elaborate, but I imagine if we do a little research we can find some stuff. </quote> https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2019/08/how-national-park-service-grappled-segregation-during-20th-century Good article from a few years back. The OP article is poorly written but outdoor activity is still predominantly a white space.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 03/17/21 6:57:08 PM #24:	Smashingpmkns posted... https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2019/08/how-national-park-service-grappled-segregation-during-20th-century Good article from a few years back. The OP article is poorly written but outdoor activity is still predominantly a white space. Good stuff. Thanks man. :) And you're right. The article makes an assumption that we already know that. Like I didn't know, for one. --- CyricZ He/him <cite>CyricZ posted [p:951819598] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2019/08/how-national-park-service-grappled-segregation-during-20th-century Good article from a few years back. The OP article is poorly written but outdoor activity is still predominantly a white space.</quote>Good stuff. Thanks man. :) And you're right. The article makes an assumption that we already know that. Like I didn't know, for one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pure_temper 03/17/21 6:58:20 PM #25:	TC what's wrong with this exactly? Are you...mocking the idea or something? Getting more people of all backgrounds out into nature and advocating for that is a great thing. --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951819650] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>TC what's wrong with this exactly? Are you...mocking the idea or something? Getting more people of all backgrounds out into nature and advocating for that is a great thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Stalolin 03/17/21 7:03:43 PM #26:	Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors. --- "Don't worry about the rain. Walk between the raindrops." <cite>Stalolin posted [p:951819869] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CommonJoe 03/17/21 7:13:02 PM #27:	Stalolin posted... Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors. Beat me to it. Go outside people. Eat dirt. Be gay. Do crimes. Live --- I shouldnt be approaching 30 and preparing for life as a climate refugee. <cite>CommonJoe posted [p:951820203] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors.</quote> Beat me to it. Go outside people. Eat dirt. Be gay. Do crimes. Live </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 8:53:16 PM #28:	pure_temper posted... TC what's wrong with this exactly? Are you...mocking the idea or something? Getting more people of all backgrounds out into nature and advocating for that is a great thing. I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951823748] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>TC what's wrong with this exactly? Are you...mocking the idea or something? Getting more people of all backgrounds out into nature and advocating for that is a great thing.</quote> I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crayon_Lover 03/17/21 9:12:06 PM #29:	Stalolin posted... Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors. --- Cleveland sports fan <cite>Crayon_Lover posted [p:951824399] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Stalolin posted... </cite> <quote>Lmao some people in this topic. Not surprising a bunch of message board dwellers dont like the great outdoors.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 03/17/21 9:13:27 PM #30:	Solid Snake07 posted... I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOOqQRp4okA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccx4_M5o4Ek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cUa6JMVC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USEr94g3HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBeLzYP6D3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9oJxTV00BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnbWiO1pBM Jeez. I wonder why it seems like people of color tend to avoid hiking, biking, the wilderness/outdoors. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:951824431] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOOqQRp4okA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccx4_M5o4Ek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cUa6JMVC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USEr94g3HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBeLzYP6D3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9oJxTV00BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnbWiO1pBM Jeez. I wonder why it seems like people of color tend to avoid hiking, biking, the wilderness/outdoors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 9:20:16 PM #31:	Kastrada posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOOqQRp4okA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccx4_M5o4Ek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cUa6JMVC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USEr94g3HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBeLzYP6D3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9oJxTV00BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnbWiO1pBM Jeez. I wonder why it seems like people of color tend to avoid hiking, biking, the wilderness/outdoors. Lol even in your targeted "hiking racism" anecdotal search most of your examples aren't even hiking related --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951824678] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Kastrada posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOOqQRp4okA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccx4_M5o4Ek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8cUa6JMVC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2USEr94g3HY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBeLzYP6D3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9oJxTV00BY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AnbWiO1pBM Jeez. I wonder why it seems like people of color tend to avoid hiking, biking, the wilderness/outdoors.</quote> Lol even in your targeted "hiking racism" anecdotal search most of your examples aren't even hiking related </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pure_temper 03/17/21 9:23:05 PM #33:	Solid Snake07 posted... I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism Allow me to be brutally honest and straightforward. It's because of poverty. When I was out interning in California including LA, I had very little cash and had to basically work on school-work (online) and on my job 24/7. Friends and fellow interns went hiking and out to the desert. They were more privileged. And most of them were Caucasian or Asian.I am Caucasian myself but from a lower class formally. Anyway, take a wild guess which people are poorest in America and what racism had to do with that! --- proudclad LAYIN DOWN THE SMACK - Error1355 Christian Marxism actually makes sense. (Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, etc too!) <cite>pure_temper posted [p:951824776] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Solid Snake07 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm mocking the idea that more blacks and Latinos don't go hiking(in the Los Angeles of all places) because of racism</quote> Allow me to be brutally honest and straightforward. It's because of poverty. When I was out interning in California including LA, I had very little cash and had to basically work on school-work (online) and on my job 24/7. Friends and fellow interns went hiking and out to the desert. They were more privileged. And most of them were Caucasian or Asian.I am Caucasian myself but from a lower class formally. Anyway, take a wild guess which people are poorest in America and what racism had to do with that! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 03/17/21 9:33:43 PM #34:	pure_temper posted... It's because of poverty Of course it is. Poor people don't spend gas money to drive out into the middle of nowhere to take a pretty walk. Blacks and Latinos are disportionantly poorer. That, is actually a problem. Not this dumbass white bread explanation --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:951825136] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>pure_temper posted... </cite> <quote>It's because of poverty</quote> Of course it is. Poor people don't spend gas money to drive out into the middle of nowhere to take a pretty walk. Blacks and Latinos are disportionantly poorer. That, is actually a problem. Not this dumbass white bread explanation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
obsolete 03/17/21 9:37:45 PM #35:	I'm too dark skinned to go camping. I don't wanna get shot. <cite>obsolete posted [p:951825274] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>I'm too dark skinned to go camping. I don't wanna get shot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AtelierRyza3462 03/17/21 9:57:46 PM #36:	Idk, here in New Mexico there's never been this issue with the outdoors. <cite>AtelierRyza3462 posted [p:951826055] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>Idk, here in New Mexico there's never been this issue with the outdoors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crazyman93 03/18/21 1:40:06 AM #37:	RedJackson posted... Speaking as a latino I know lots of families that dont get hiking.. usually the idea of sleeping outside in a sleeping bag comes across as weird because some people spent a lot of their life in poverty and they see it as a matter of why would you sleep outside when I just got this nice house with a TV and windows to boot lol Interesting point. In the same vein, why would you walk through the wilderness for fun and exercise if you already walked through it to get the hell out of Mexico. Actually... That makes me wonder how many Cubans enjoy powerboating in Florida. --- let's lubricate friction material! ~nickels, Cars & Trucks <cite>Crazyman93 posted [p:951832358] in Hiking has... [t:79354149]...</cite> <quote>RedJackson posted... </cite> <quote>Speaking as a latino I know lots of families that dont get hiking.. usually the idea of sleeping outside in a sleeping bag comes across as weird because some people spent a lot of their life in poverty and they see it as a matter of why would you sleep outside when I just got this nice house with a TV and windows to boot lol</quote>Interesting point. In the same vein, why would you walk through the wilderness for fun and exercise if you already walked through it to get the hell out of Mexico. Actually... That makes me wonder how many Cubans enjoy powerboating in Florida. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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