Poll of the Day > My tenants owe me over $8000

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Relatively annoying. I could buy so many snacks with that money. Just need them to pay!

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Turt rent me some property. I'm subscribed to your YouTube so I'm entitled to housing

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Are they working?

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Stuff like this is why I never wanted to own rental properties.

u should probably talk to them about that

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Landlords suck so I'm on your tenants side even if they're 100% in the wrong.

get them out and find people who can pay then.

or is that against the law now?

How much is rent per month

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Fam_Fam posted...

get them out and find people who can pay then.

or is that against the law now?

Probably depends on where he lives. The way I understood it was that the current/previous eviction moratorium only applied to federal housing

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Over 8000 and not....over 9000?! Yeah I'll see myself out and am disappointed I'm the one who had to cringe while saying that.

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8k is a pretty significant amount.

ArvTheGreat posted...

How much is rent per month

1900

Smarkil posted...

u should probably talk to them about that

I did, I scared them. Which is good.

Fam_Fam posted...

get them out and find people who can pay then.

or is that against the law now?

Can't in NJ. Their contract expires in July though.

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AwesomeTurtwig posted...

I did, I scared them. Which is good.

u should break their kneecaps


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AwesomeTurtwig posted...

1900

I did, I scared them. Which is good.

Can't in NJ. Their contract expires in July though.

Or perhaps actually be a fucking decent human being. We are still short 10 million jobs or hadn't you noticed. Landlords like you are the scum of the earth and deserved to be kicked in the dick multiple times.

JigsawTDC posted...

Landlords suck so I'm on your tenants side even if they're 100% in the wrong.

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more people would be working if they hadn't forced shutdowns
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Krazy_Kirby posted...

more people would be dead if they hadn't forced shutdowns

fixed it for you

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I'm more curious what size space you rent for 1,900 / month

Krazy_Kirby posted...

more people would be working if they hadn't forced shutdowns

DirtBasedSoap posted...

more people would be dead if they hadn't forced shutdowns

https://i.imgur.com/KdFcDFq.jpg
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Arcturusisnow posted...

Or perhaps actually be a fucking decent human being. We are still short 10 million jobs or hadn't you noticed. Landlords like you are the scum of the earth and deserved to be kicked in the dick multiple times.

You don't even know everything about the situation and you're still judging. Lol

I remember hearing something about these "professional bad tenants" (they were good at abusing the system) who screwed with the wrong guy. He had enough of their antics and long story short, a frank discussion ended when he blew their heads off with a shotgun then turned himself in for murder. The end result was two dead scumbags and their murderer off the streets, so I guess it was a win?

Raddest_Chad posted...

I remember hearing something about these "professional bad tenants" (they were good at abusing the system) who screwed with the wrong guy. He had enough of their antics and long story short, a frank discussion ended when he blew their heads off with a shotgun then turned himself in for murder. The end result was two dead scumbags and their murderer off the streets, so I guess it was a win?

What happened to the house? Did someone buy it? Do they live in it or rent it? If they rent it, the cycle may continue...
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SURELY there was another course of action before shooting them with a shotgun. If anything, seems like more ammo for the "Landlords and terrible people and need to get a real job" crowd.

LinkPizza posted...

What happened to the house? Did someone buy it? Do they live in it or rent it? If they rent it, the cycle may continue...

Oh! The owner burned it to the ground in a fit of rage.

IronBornCorps posted...

SURELY there was another course of action before shooting them with a shotgun. If anything, seems like more ammo for the "Landlords and terrible people and need to get a real job" crowd.

iirc, they screwed a ton of people before him, he didn't do due diligence and clearly should not have rented to them, and it dragged on for an eternity and he legit went to talk it over but because of how sketchy they were, he brought the gun for his own safety. but they were asswipes, he had an explosive temper, and then that's what happens. the universe balanced itself, I guess. everyone involved in the situation was a bad person who can no longer harm others.

I'd hate to be a landlord. It seems like it would be such a hassle.

Oh. I guess that works, as well...
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Sounds like a completely stable landlord

IronBornCorps posted...

I'm more curious what size space you rent for 1,900 / month

1450 sqft not including the attic or basement. It's also NJ, which has one of the more expensive housing in the country.

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IronBornCorps posted...

Sounds like a completely stable landlord

a very stable genius

AwesomeTurtwig posted...

1450 sqft not including the attic or basement. It's also NJ, which has one of the more expensive housing in the country.

I'm aware NJ housing is expensive compared to where I am. How many bed/bath?

Raddest_Chad posted...

I remember hearing something about these "professional bad tenants" (they were good at abusing the system) who screwed with the wrong guy. He had enough of their antics and long story short, a frank discussion ended when he blew their heads off with a shotgun then turned himself in for murder. The end result was two dead scumbags and their murderer off the streets, so I guess it was a win?

wow what the fuck is the matter with you


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IronBornCorps posted...

I'm aware NJ housing is expensive compared to where I am. How many bed/bath?

I'm tempted to just post the address tbh. 3 bed, 2 bath, plus extra rooms (no closets)

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IronBornCorps posted...

"Landlords and terrible people and need to get a real job"

agreed wholeheartedly


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All my landlords have been chill af. Lol

DirtBasedSoap posted...

agreed wholeheartedly

I have a job, but I also collect rent.

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Honestly, as far as price rates in a capitalist system, that's a pretty fair rate considering size and area. Are they not employed?

I may not be the biggest fan of landlords, but they aren't going anywhere until we also remove home ownership...so...

*edit*
experiences certainly vary all well.

Arcturusisnow posted...

Or perhaps actually be a fucking decent human being. We are still short 10 million jobs or hadn't you noticed. Landlords like you are the scum of the earth and deserved to be kicked in the dick multiple times.

yeah, he should just let people live in his property rent free, costing him money for them to be there

that makes perfect sense

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GunslingerGunsl posted...

All my landlords have been chill af. Lol

Yeah, I've only rented once and both the landlord and the maintenance guy were amazing and I have nothing but good things to say about either of them.

I don't really like my landlord. I'm basically just putting up with her until I buy my own place. Until then, I'm stuck here...

IronBornCorps posted...

they aren't going anywhere until we also remove home ownership

I don't think we need to remove home ownership. But instead, remove people owning more homes for the sole purpose of collecting rent and making a profit. I say it that way because I do understand people buying another house to help a family member out. But not if they are just renting it out to collect a profit.

Also, it should be more affordable to own a home. Many people only rent because it's too expensive to own... If it were more affordable, and people couldn't just buy houses to constantly rent, I think things would be at least a little better...
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LinkPizza posted...

I don't think we need to remove home ownership. But instead, remove people owning more homes for the sole purpose of collecting rent and making a profit. I say it that way because I do understand people buying another house to help a family member out. But not if they are just renting it out to collect a profit.

Also, it should be more affordable to own a home. Many people only rent because it's too expensive to own... If it were more affordable, and people couldn't just buy houses to constantly rent, I think things would be at least a little better...

Yeah, I agree. There's a major housing shortage in a lot of markets and while I am generally cool with business ventures, that's not the case when it's objectively exploitative. The laws need to be written in a way that some billionaires can't just buy up all the houses. Be it gouging people because of a manufactured shortage or even buying them as an investment and letting them sit empty. I'm fine with anyone buying up patches of land outside city limits to sit on, but there are tons of vacant houses some overseas guys just lock down and never use and it messes up the market really badly.

Access to credit needs to be improved. The bank said my credit wasn't good enough to afford 1200 / month mortgage for a house, so I rent for 1700 / month.

if you remove people from owning homes for the sole purpose of collecting rent, what happens to apartment complexes? If you think about it, those are really just big ass homes, and are needed in higher population density areas. Even if you break up the apartments similar to how you can own a condo, who takes care of the overall lot?

I bring up apartment complexes, because many of them are run by big corporations who have multiple complexes as well.

IronBornCorps posted...

Access to credit needs to be improved. The bank said my credit wasn't good enough to afford 1200 / month mortgage for a house, so I rent for 1700 / month.

if you remove people from owning homes for the sole purpose of collecting rent, what happens to apartment complexes? If you think about it, those are really just big ass homes, and are needed in higher population density areas. Even if you break up the apartments similar to how you can own a condo, who takes care of the overall lot?

I bring up apartment complexes, because many of them are run by big corporations who have multiple complexes as well.

The system needs a mulligan, really. A lot of systems do. From housing, to education, to the courts. Everything is still way too heavily influenced by 19th century ideas. Just because something used to work doesn't mean it should stay the same... I think the best defense for your point is UBI program successes. Obviously not everyone will be responsible with it, but more often than not they will be. It needs to stop being looked at as "giving handouts" but more "giving a helping hand", because it's a lot cheaper for the taxpayers when there are 1) more taxpayers and 2) less street people out committing crimes because they're stuck. Wages keeping up with inflation and healthcare being a human right would (ugh) trickle down into fixes for just about everything though.

A lot of landlords are penny wise and pound foolish. I know of a location that has literally sat empty for years because the owner wanted to increase the rent. The business said they couldn't afford that and so they were evicted. Now the moron that owns the land is paying taxes on it while collecting nothing, rather than just making a smaller profit all this time.

Raddest_Chad posted...

Yeah, I agree. There's a major housing shortage in a lot of markets and while I am generally cool with business ventures, that's not the case when it's objectively exploitative. The laws need to be written in a way that some billionaires can't just buy up all the houses. Be it gouging people because of a manufactured shortage or even buying them as an investment and letting them sit empty. I'm fine with anyone buying up patches of land outside city limits to sit on, but there are tons of vacant houses some overseas guys just lock down and never use and it messes up the market really badly.

Exactly!

IronBornCorps posted...

Access to credit needs to be improved. The bank said my credit wasn't good enough to afford 1200 / month mortgage for a house, so I rent for 1700 / month.

Which is ridiculous. I don't even understand how banks don't take in more information to understand stuff like that...

IronBornCorps posted...

if you remove people from owning homes for the sole purpose of collecting rent, what happens to apartment complexes? If you think about it, those are really just big ass homes, and are needed in higher population density areas. Even if you break up the apartments similar to how you can own a condo, who takes care of the overall lot?

I think you should be able to buy the apartment complexes just like house cheap ones. And it happens in some cases already, apparently... As for the lot, you can do it a few different ways. One way is the charge everyone who lives on that lot to do it. Which means they all have to work together. You could even make it part of the ownership agreement. Another way is to sell the lots with a specific room. The only problem is that people who don't have to clean will be a problem. You could also give it to the city to clean. Like how the city cuts the grass around places of employment in my city. Just give them the job of keeping the lot clean. There are plenty of other ways, as well...

IronBornCorps posted...

I bring up apartment complexes, because many of them are run by big corporations who have multiple complexes as well.

I'd probably rather them be sold as houses. Or, run by someone who lives there, but who doesn't gouge customers just to become rich. They make enough so that they can pay the buildings rent, still live comfortably, and fix all issues in the building. Though, there are things tenants would need to do on their own. But that's just how I feel...
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Arcturusisnow posted...

Or perhaps actually be a fucking decent human being. We are still short 10 million jobs or hadn't you noticed. Landlords like you are the scum of the earth and deserved to be kicked in the dick multiple times.

Wow what a child

I do support UBI. I think the idea that people won't work if you give them money is pretty silly. There is no motivation to return the grocery cart to the corral, yet many people do. Not everyone, but does that mean we shouldn't have grocery carts?

It's mind-blowing to think that boomers could literally work what amounts to an entry-level job, own a house, and support a family. I know standards of living were lower in some regards, like only have one car and one TV, but seriously?!

Most landlords are just middle class people. Many are older people just making their retirement money

OhhhJa posted...

Most landlords are just middle class people. Many are older people just making their retirement money

It depends on the market. In average ones, for sure. In places with 7-figures and up house prices... Not so much. I don't know many landlords, but the majority have been people renting out a basement suite or one extra house either to one or two sets of tenants and yeah, they're not rich.

Raddest_Chad posted...

It's mind-blowing to think that boomers could literally work what amounts to an entry-level job, own a house, and support a family. I know standards of living were lower in some regards, like only have one car and one TV, but seriously?!

Don't forget pay their college loans back at the same time. I get the TV had like 5 channels, and there was no internet, but things like food insecurity and homelessness just weren't as big of issues back then.

IronBornCorps posted...

I do support UBI. I think the idea that people won't work if you give them money is pretty silly. There is no motivation to return the grocery cart to the corral, yet many people do. Not everyone, but does that mean we shouldn't have grocery carts.

I think there are too many problems for UBI to work properly. At least anytime soon. And it really depends on how much they make. You say that people would work. But when people were making more money to not work, they decided to just not work. Even @Muscles (IIRC) said people at his job weren't returning because they were making more money staying home. It just depends on what benefits they get from working, and if they think those are worth it... That being said, there's also the problem of job losses coming with automaton and other stuff like self-checkout and whatnot...
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