Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1366

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ya go my FFX poll

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I should really play my copy of FF10 someday.
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the original PS2 disc, the HD remake, or both

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I refuse to believe that more people have played FF4 than FFX

I picked up the PS3 Final Fantasy X / X-2 HD Remaster at some point a long time ago.
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Seems so strange that almost 1 out of 4 is unemployed.

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I literally lost my job two days ago. I only got the job a couple of weeks ago, having left a stable position for it. I have never before had a boss who was such an utter lunatic.

Fortunately I have a job interview in an hour. Maybe this person won't be crazy.

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job openings are everywhere around me...lol, it takes effort to stay unemployed right now.

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OldFAQs strikes again.
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Just dropping in to say that they are playing FROG'S THEME during the Olympics Opening Ceremony.

My life is complete.

I noticed a few other themes too. Damn!

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therealmnm posted...

Just dropping in to say that they are playing FROG'S THEME during the Olympics Opening Ceremony.

My life is complete.

hopefully there will be a lot of fishy last minute comebacks

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Still having Chrono Trigger's Music and Dragon Quest's themes in Olympics...I can't believe it. If USA hosts more games I want them to have Doom's music and Guile's theme somewhere too.

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I didn't recognize the Dragon Quest music, but I definitely heard:

Final Fantasy Victory Fanfare
The Prologue
Frog's Theme
Robo's Theme
Starlight Zone
Kingdom Hearts Olympus Stadium

Bump
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Who wins these matches in a potential "Best 90s Game Ever" Contest?

Mario Party vs. Pokemon Snap
Super Smash Bros. vs. Super Mario RPG
Link's Awakening vs. Final Fantasy VI
Goldeneye 007 vs. Final Fantasy VIII
Any Notable Sonic Game (1, 2, 3&K, Adventure) vs. Final Fantasy V
Tomb Raider II vs. Crash Bandicoot Warped
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater vs. Parasite Eve
Madden 98 vs. Panzer Dragoon Saga
Gran Turismo 2 vs. Silent Hill

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Mario Party
Mario RPG
Final Fantasy VI
Goldeneye (but I'd still pick FFVIII)
Sonic
Crash
Parasite Eve
Panzer Dragoon
Silent Hill

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dont know
Mario RPG
FFVI
FFVIII
Sonic
Crash 3
Parasite Eve
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Silent Hill

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fuck he basically picked all my answers thats cheating

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Most of them feel pretty clear cut to me!

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plasmabeam posted...

Who wins these matches in a potential "Best 90s Game Ever" Contest?

IMO:

Pokemon Snap: Don't think people who played Mario Party back when it was popular don't remember what it did to their hands.
Super Mario RPG: I think its 2015 run looked artificially impressive via bandwagoning in its last few rounds, but at the end of the day, it's simply more esteemed as a singleplayer SNES JRPG here.
Final Fantasy VI: Crushes the prestige battle, which matters a lot regardless of how the contest is framed. That's also why WW > LA is a call I'd make with total confidence now that the Celda hate has all but died off.
GoldenEye 007: I could easily see this one going either way, so I'll pick the one that (relatively) benefits from forced apathy votes and doubled votes from registered users.
Sonic: FFV definitely beats Sonic Adventure. Beyond that, both of these are total wildcards, but I'll take the one voters realistically played in the early/mid 90s.
Crash Bandicoot Warped: Characters =/= games, which benefits the stronger Crash more due to Lara's modern relevance.
Parasite Eve: This is GameFAQs, after all, and how many of us really played THPS 1+2?
Panzer Dragoon Saga: In a stomping.
Silent Hill: Could be an interesting match or another blowout if it happened, but like Madden 98, GT2 probably doesn't even make the field.

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I'd take Tony Hawk over Parasite Eve. No one gives a shit about Parasite Eve, a series that has been irrelevant for 20 years. THPS isn't a strong game but it's at least popular enough to have generated multiple remasters/remakes.

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It's popular in places that are not here. I wouldn't be surprised if it did win though because its competition is pretty terrible.

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Seanchan posted...

I'd take Tony Hawk over Parasite Eve. No one gives a shit about Parasite Eve, a series that has been irrelevant for 20 years. THPS isn't a strong game but it's at least popular enough to have generated multiple remasters/remakes.

The THPS Remasters make this one interesting IMO. I would also assume apathy votes would favor THPS due to PE growing more obscure over time.

I feel like the board would overrate PE based on Aya Brea's performances from 20 years ago.

I'd say 54-46 in favor of THPS, but I wouldn't feel good about the pick.

MetalmindStats posted...

Pokemon Snap: Don't think people who played Mario Party back when it was popular don't remember what it did to their hands.

Coinflip. Would be a perfect Day 1 8/9-Seed match. I think Mario Party wins, but I'm not at all confident.

Super Mario RPG: I think its 2015 run looked artificially impressive via bandwagoning in its last few rounds, but at the end of the day, it's simply more esteemed as a singleplayer SNES JRPG here.

My gut instinct likes Smash 64 here for some reason, but I could easily see it on the wrong end of a 60-40 beatdown. Both games haven't aged well, but I think SMRPG's aging is less noticeable.

Final Fantasy VI: Crushes the prestige battle, which matters a lot regardless of how the contest is framed. That's also why WW > LA is a call I'd make with total confidence now that the Celda hate has all but died off.

Yeah, I agree. Even with the Switch remakes, LA still has to overcome the "Console > Handheld" factor that only Pokemon RBY seems to be immune to.

GoldenEye 007: I could easily see this one going either way, so I'll pick the one that (relatively) benefits from forced apathy votes and doubled votes from registered users.

This one is 52-48 either way. Goldeneye has aged horrendously but is fondly remembered as an N64 hallmark. FF8 is a golden-era FF that recently got a remaster. Goldeneye gets the apathy votes. FF8 has JRPG-FAQS. If the match pic comes down to Pierce Brosnan vs. River Phoenix, FF8 squeaks out a win.

Sonic: FFV definitely beats Sonic Adventure. Beyond that, both of these are total wildcards, but I'll take the one voters realistically played in the early/mid 90s.
Crash Bandicoot Warped: Characters =/= games, which benefits the stronger Crash more due to Lara's modern relevance.

Agreed.

Panzer Dragoon Saga: In a stomping.
Silent Hill: Could be an interesting match or another blowout if it happened, but like Madden 98, GT2 probably doesn't even make the field.

These make me smile. Maybe a more interesting match would be Silent Hill vs. Star Ocean 2

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Leonhart4 posted...

It's popular in places that are not here. I wouldn't be surprised if it did win though because its competition is pretty terrible.

What gives THPS a solid chance is that it's more of an Arcade game than a Sports game

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I don't think SMRPG has aged poorly. It's still the most popular Mario RPG. The original Smash is the one that would have to deal with feeling outdated since every game after it has become more popular (even if only temporarily). Plus, I'd take SNES over N64 as a tiebreaker if it came down to it except for the very top tier N64 games, which Smash is not a part of.

And I don't think people really care about the original Pokemon Snap. Mario Party is at least a memorable game, even if only for all the injuries it caused.

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Leonhart4 posted...

And I don't think people really care about the original Pokemon Snap.

I don't know where you got that idea from!

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plasmabeam posted...

Pokemon Snap
Super Mario RPG
Final Fantasy VI
Goldeneye
Sonic
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Parasite Eve
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Silent Hill

-Pokmon Snap may be pretty gimmicky, but it was still a popular game. Also, Mario Party fans are very divided regarding which one's the best, so I could see the weight of them being distributed pretty evenly among the 12 (or so) titles that have been released. I mean, it could win by representative name alone, but if we put Pokmon Stadium in here instead, Stadium wins by a large margin.

-Super Mario RPG may actually be a Top 6 SNES game (CT > ALttP > FFVI > SMW > Super Metroid > SMRPG), and that's not a small thing.

-Link's Awakening could definitely beat a handful of midcarders, but no way it reaches FFVI's strength.

-Ooph!... Tough one, but I think FFVIII's strength has dropped enough to give Goldeneye the edge here. (Speaking of which, I know there's some hierarchy regarding FF titles, but I wouldn't rule out IX actually surpassing VIII in a 1v1 match nowadays. Ironically, I don't see FFIX winning against Goldeneye, but I could be wrong.)

-Sonic 3&K > Sonic 2 > FFV >= Sonic 1 > Sonic Adventure would be my guess.

-Both Crash 2 and 3 could take on any classic Tomb Raider. If it was Crash 1, it could be a little more debatable, though I'd still give the edge to Crash. I can only see Tomb Raider (1 or 2) beating Spyro 2 and 3, but not 1.

-Parasite Eve may be pretty weak (and nobody cared about The 3rd Birthday), but classic PS1 Square game vs. tecnically-not-the-strongest sports game on the site, sounds more in favor of the former.

-Panzer Dragoon wins by a mile. I'd even take SaGa Frontier to beat Madden 98. I don't remember when Tecmo Super Bowl got released, but that would be a somewhat better match. (If we really need a sports game in, though, it would be awesome to see International Superstar Soccer Deluxe in there.)

-Silent Hill may not be Resident Evil kind of strong (though Silent Hill 2 vs. RE1 would be an interesting match), but it's still iconic enough to beat Gran Turismo 1 or 2. If it was Gran Turismo 3 we were talking about here, it would be another story.

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swirIdude posted...

I don't know where you got that idea from!

Probably because I feel like I've talked about Pokemon Snap more on this board the last 15 years than actual Pokemon fans!

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FFIX stood up to Ocarina last we saw it, it's not losing to Goldeneye.

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I was always under the impression that Pokemon Snap was quite popular with both fans and non-fans.
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Leonhart4 posted...

Probably because I feel like I've talked about Pokemon Snap more on this board the last 15 years than actual Pokemon fans!

Remember that the strength of every Pokmon game on the site heavily re the casual fans' opinion. We're basically GenwunnerFAQs, lol.

That being said, many fans eagered for a new Pokmon Snap for a long time and Nintendo finally reacted by releasing New Pokmon Snap just recently.

If the hardcore fanbase's opinions and discussions were prioritized instead, we would've already had the Mystery Dungeon games represented for years now.

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It's possible I've just misread things because I am not in tune with the Pokemon fanbase. I'd be reluctant to trust Snap though.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

FFIX stood up to Ocarina last we saw it, it's not losing to Goldeneye.

This, I'd feel pretty good about taking FFIX over FFVIII or Goldeneye.
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looking back Skyrim beat GoldenEye by more than I remembered

FFVIII all the way baby

(also FFIX has secretly been stronger than FFVIII since Vivi beat Squall, that was your big warning sign)

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2003:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/1443-which-final-fantasy-title-is-your-all-time-favorite

2017:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6872-which-final-fantasy-title-is-your-all-time-favorite

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It had already turned by 2014!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/5727-from-the-last-27-years-which-numbered-final-fantasy-title-is

I picked Vivi > Ganondorf in 2018 because FFIX's 2015 showing and the FF polls in the last decade convinced me that Vivi > Squall and Vivi > Mario weren't flukes (I mean, Vivi > Mario kinda was, but 2004 Vivi doesn't beat Mario there even with Ganondorf).

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Who survives this 4-Pack?

Metal Gear Solid vs Super Metroid
Final Fantasy Tactics vs Castlevania: SotN

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I would not take any of those games to beat Majora's Mask, so Super Metroid.

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Not even Post-Netflix Castlevania?

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plasmabeam posted...

Not even Post-Netflix Castlevania?

That will help Alucard more than it'll help any singular Castlevania game because it still doesn't change the fact that I've not really played SotN even though I've watched the Netflix show.

Also Metroidvania SFF watch out

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Super Metroid > SoTN I think

curious to see what Super Metroid would do in a bracket where it doesnt have to fight a top 3 or 4 Zelda game (Honestly the further we get from the SNES the more I wonder if Majoras Mask wins the LTTP matchup)

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LiquidOshawott posted...

Super Metroid > SoTN I think

curious to see what Super Metroid would do in a bracket where it doesnt have to fight a top 3 or 4 Zelda game (Honestly the further we get from the SNES the more I wonder if Majoras Mask wins the LTTP matchup)

The N64/PSX era is aging a lot worse than the SNES is, so the real question is when will LttP be beating OoT!

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yeah I'm not worried about the SNES aging poorly as long as the site's demographics aren't getting any younger

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I guess its fair, its possible I was just thinking of the boards demographics (where I think people are tending to favor the N64/PS1 over SNES stuff that isnt Chrono Trigger) over the sites

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LiquidOshawott posted...

I guess its fair, its possible I was just thinking of the boards demographics (where I think people are tending to favor the N64/PS1 over SNES stuff that isnt Chrono Trigger) over the sites

I don't know that this is necessarily true either! The SNES doesn't dominate B8 like it does on the main page, but it's going to hold its own just fine.

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