Current Events > Is Biden unironically going to be a great president?

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pinky0926
01/27/21 6:16:23 AM
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Like he's making some pretty widesweeping changes, mostly for the good, and with a stacked house these changes might actually go through with more success than they did in 2008.

So we might be seeing Obama-era policies that actually happen. In which case sleepy joe might actually go down in history as a great progressive reformist? Is this a hot take or what

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InhumaneRaider
01/27/21 6:17:54 AM
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The widesweeping changes are just undoing a bunch of shit Trump did, while the prison profit XO is pretty decent, we still have a long way to go and there's some issues he apparently won't move on.

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NinjaWarrior455
01/27/21 6:19:47 AM
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He's doing a lot of things right so far but we'll see. Ultimately a lot of what he's doing needs to be passed as legislation so that the next president doesn't just undo everything. That's less an issue with Biden though and more an indictment on how inefficient Congress is, mostly cause of Republican stonewalling.

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kirbyakaZ
01/27/21 6:21:31 AM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
The widesweeping changes are just undoing a bunch of shit Trump did, while the prison profit XO is pretty decent, we still have a long way to go and there's some issues he apparently won't move on.

Like what?
Not looking for a fight, I am actually asking.

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Dondre_X
01/27/21 6:22:53 AM
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The bar has been set pretty low, but I think he'll come out pretty well.

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jason19192
01/27/21 6:24:08 AM
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Compared to Trump he will be a masterpiece of a president, by american president standards he might be better than average, we'll see.
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InhumaneRaider
01/27/21 6:25:58 AM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
Like what?
Not looking for a fight, I am actually asking.
Drug pricing, health care are two I can immediately think of.

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scar the 1
01/27/21 6:26:06 AM
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I doubt it. I'll gladly eat my hat if I'm wrong, but IMO he's off to a pretty rocky start.

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kirbyakaZ
01/27/21 6:30:00 AM
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InhumaneRaider posted...
Drug pricing, health care are two I can immediately think of.

I thought he was for Canada like health care for all?

scar the 1 posted...
I doubt it. I'll gladly eat my hat if I'm wrong, but IMO he's off to a pretty rocky start.
How so?

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DravenRainrix
01/27/21 6:33:08 AM
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I dont know the US Political system but, if Sticky Joe comes in and changes a load of stuff for the betterment of American people, couldn't someone else be elected in 4 years and just undo everything?

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pinky0926
01/27/21 6:35:02 AM
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DravenRainrix posted...
I dont know the US Political system but, if Sticky Joe comes in and changes a load of stuff for the betterment of American people, couldn't someone else be elected in 4 years and just undo everything?

Depends on who controls congress pretty much. But in theory yes, that could happen, and does happen every time, which is why america is still struggling with issues that should have been resolved in the 90s

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scar the 1
01/27/21 6:36:11 AM
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kirbyakaZ posted...
How so?
Vowing to keep the US embassy in Jerusalem would be one example. He's signalling that he's not going back to the Iran deal that even his own previous administration brokered. I haven't seen anything in terms of stopping the support of the genocide in Yemen (even though it has congressional support).
I don't think a US president can be "unironically great" when, on the first day in office, they decide to be a war criminal.

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Dark_SilverX
01/27/21 6:36:12 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Lets not jerk him off too hard, its been a week
he not orange man

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
01/27/21 6:45:30 AM
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Lol, not a chance, he'll end up a lame duck just like so many others.
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pinky0926
01/27/21 6:47:03 AM
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Dark_SilverX posted...
he not orange man

Orange man indeed very bad

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1NfamousACE_2
01/27/21 6:47:35 AM
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marijuana needs to be legalized by the end of this year

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DravenRainrix
01/27/21 6:49:25 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
and does happen every time, which is why america is still struggling with issues that should have been resolved in the 90s

makes you question what the point is..
The Uk keep voting in people that like killing the poor and disabled... so thats makes me wonder why bother..

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pinky0926
01/27/21 6:50:37 AM
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DravenRainrix posted...
makes you question what the point is..
The Uk keep voting in people that like killing the poor and disabled... so thats makes me wonder why bother..

Unfortunately single issue voters spoil the broth every time

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COVxy
01/27/21 6:56:00 AM
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DravenRainrix posted...
I dont know the US Political system but, if Sticky Joe comes in and changes a load of stuff for the betterment of American people, couldn't someone else be elected in 4 years and just undo everything?

Essentially, anything passed through executive order can immediately be undone, which is why Trump's legacy can be pretty much erased instantly. His admin was extremely executive order heavy.

The hope is, and one of the reasons Biden ran on unity and compromise, is to transition to a legislatively successful admin, in which the changes are typically much harder to overturn.

Long term progressive policy can really only be done through legislative action.

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UnfairRepresent
01/27/21 6:57:22 AM
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Considering he was an absolutely unremarkable VP and now is 800 years old and barely awake, I highly doubt it.

However he's off to a good start simply by doing a ton of Trump Damage Control

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Spiritlittle
01/27/21 6:58:53 AM
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He has an approval rating of over 64% right now. Trump never got above 51% during his presidency.

That's all we need to know. Unless he royally fucks up, Biden has another 4 years if he wants it (which he most likely doesn't; he's old.)

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Spiritlittle
01/27/21 6:59:35 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Considering he was an absolutely unremarkable VP and now is 800 years old and barely awake, I highly doubt it.

However he's off to a good start simply by doing a ton of Trump Damage Control
"Unremarkable"

*literally the first woman and POC to be Vice President*

Yeah, okay....

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UnfairRepresent
01/27/21 7:02:11 AM
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Spiritlittle posted...
"Unremarkable"

*literally the first woman and POC to be Vice President*

Yeah, okay....
... wat

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Southernfatman
01/27/21 7:05:02 AM
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No, he will start to cave to Republicans like all good Democrats do and we will at best be at a stalemate the entire run.

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TheoryzC
01/27/21 7:20:26 AM
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It's kinda funny watching the reaction to him from all angles

Fox News calls him Sleepy Joe while being super sacred of and criticizing his very non sleepy executive actions plus calling him a stooge for the Left. Then you have people here saying he's gonna let the Republicans run over him lol

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UnfairRepresent
01/27/21 7:23:02 AM
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TheoryzC posted...
Then you have people here saying he's gonna let the Republicans run over him lol
he is

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ssjevot
01/27/21 7:23:30 AM
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I always worry about US Foreign Policy, and he has a history of supporting intervention. Not that I don't want to see things get better at the domestic front, but how much celebration can there be for marginal improvements in a wealthy country while they bomb people in a poor country? We will see, not going to throw him to the wolves yet.

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sauceje
01/27/21 7:36:26 AM
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I think he'll be pretty average. But after Trump, you could be godawful and it would still be an improvement

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Spiritlittle
01/27/21 7:38:24 AM
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sauceje posted...
I think he'll be pretty average. But after Trump, you could be godawful and it would still be an improvement
Which means he'll still be one of the best presidents of the modern era. Only Obama is universally seen as a top 15 president.

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Kolibri X
01/27/21 7:43:37 AM
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No, but the press will use massive amounts of lies and gaslighting to make it look like he is a good, clean president.

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Trumble
01/29/21 12:24:38 AM
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Great? I doubt it.

Alright? Probably. And that's still a huge improvement on the last one.

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Questionmarktarius
01/30/21 5:49:12 AM
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Biden is going to be the Democrat's George HW Bush.
Mostly benign.
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PiOverlord
01/30/21 5:53:46 AM
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Honestly, I think Biden will be a decent president. The people of CE will do their best to somehow warp his presidency to be a presidency of mediocrity or even try to argue why he is bad, but he probably will be decent.

The thing about presidents is I think rankings are unfair. Like, hundreds of years down the line, a lot of what presidents pass now, if the US still exists, the effects will fade away so people won't have a good idea how they actually were as president. Maybe presidents back then were the same.

For our time, I think he will be pretty decent, and the president that America needs right now after the last 4 years.

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Kakapo
01/30/21 5:54:45 AM
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I hope so. America deserves a break.

I can only hope that the Republicans are able to clean house and remove all the QAnon and MAGA people. If they keep running with that, theyre going to go full fascist. With absolutely no hyperbole.

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Questionmarktarius
01/30/21 5:55:17 AM
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PiOverlord posted...
Honestly, I think Biden will be a decent president. The people of CE will do their best to somehow warp his presidency to be a presidency of mediocrity or even try to argue why he is bad, but he probably will be decent.
There is no possible way Biden will be worse than Carter.
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