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InhumaneRaider 01/28/21 1:21:32 AM #52:	ArianaGrandSlam posted... Reminder that people also held up Bioshock Infinite as a smart game for smart gamers that pushed boundaries, lol TLOU2 isn't as profound as some make it out to be, but it's not as dumb as most try to make it seem. It may sound preachy, but there are some actual themes people have uncovered through recontextualizing certain scenes that don't just boil down to some braindead response like, "mmmm, revenge bad." --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! Communism is free drink refills, nothing else. <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:950004289] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>ArianaGrandSlam posted... </cite> <quote>Reminder that people also held up Bioshock Infinite as a smart game for smart gamers that pushed boundaries, lol</quote>TLOU2 isn't as profound as some make it out to be, but it's not as dumb as most try to make it seem. It may sound preachy, but there are some actual themes people have uncovered through recontextualizing certain scenes that don't just boil down to some braindead response like, "mmmm, revenge bad." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 01/28/21 1:31:54 AM #53:	InhumaneRaider posted... It may sound preachy, but there are some actual themes people have uncovered through recontextualizing certain scenes that don't just boil down to some braindead response like, "mmmm, revenge bad." Anyone who actually thinks the main theme of the game is "revenge is bad" is an absolute moron. The theme is about forgiveness/letting go and it becomes so on the nose at the climax that I can't take anyone who claims the revenge thing seriously. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:950004469] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>It may sound preachy, but there are some actual themes people have uncovered through recontextualizing certain scenes that don't just boil down to some braindead response like, "mmmm, revenge bad."</quote>Anyone who actually thinks the main theme of the game is "revenge is bad" is an absolute moron. The theme is about forgiveness/letting go and it becomes so on the nose at the climax that I can't take anyone who claims the revenge thing seriously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/28/21 1:34:46 AM #54:	I also don't understand people who call the game a misery simulator, does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game. Same goes for Tess, Sam and Henry and the actual ending. This ending is far more hopeful than part I because it shows that Ellie can actually move on and begin to live her life. Part I set up the reveal of Joel's actions and the consequences from that. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! Communism is free drink refills, nothing else. <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:950004510] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>I also don't understand people who call the game a misery simulator, does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game. Same goes for Tess, Sam and Henry and the actual ending. This ending is far more hopeful than part I because it shows that Ellie can actually move on and begin to live her life. Part I set up the reveal of Joel's actions and the consequences from that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 01/28/21 1:39:50 AM #55:	coh posted... Dunno if Id post a video with that ending tbh. I wouldn't. So I guess I do know. --- Name checks out "Try to talk and they ain't listening, but they'll point it out when you get ignorant" - Dreezy <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:950004591] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>coh posted... </cite> <quote> </quote> Dunno if Id post a video with that ending tbh. I wouldn't. So I guess I do know. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 1:46:18 AM #56:	People that say it's a "misery simulator" or a "simple revenge story" are mostly bigots or entitled babies that are mad about what happened to Joel pretending to have "legitimate" criticisms. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950004723] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>People that say it's a "misery simulator" or a "simple revenge story" are mostly bigots or entitled babies that are mad about what happened to Joel pretending to have "legitimate" criticisms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Makeveli_lives 01/28/21 3:02:15 AM #57:	InhumaneRaider posted... does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game. No it wasn't lol --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 <cite>Makeveli_lives posted [p:950005902] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game.</quote>No it wasn't lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:12:57 AM #58:	InhumaneRaider posted... I also don't understand people who call the game a misery simulator, does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game. Same goes for Tess, Sam and Henry and the actual ending. This ending is far more hopeful than part I because it shows that Ellie can actually move on and begin to live her life. Part I set up the reveal of Joel's actions and the consequences from that. Spoilers ~~She barley moved on, which is not in anyway honorable. Had she just stayed in the farmhouse yeah you can say she moved on, but she had to go follow Abby to LA..~~ <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006051] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>InhumaneRaider posted... </cite> <quote>I also don't understand people who call the game a misery simulator, does no one remember the first game and the literal opening scene? That shit is far more depressing than anything in this game. Same goes for Tess, Sam and Henry and the actual ending. This ending is far more hopeful than part I because it shows that Ellie can actually move on and begin to live her life. Part I set up the reveal of Joel's actions and the consequences from that.</quote> Spoilers She barley moved on, which is not in anyway honorable. Had she just stayed in the farmhouse yeah you can say she moved on, but she had to go follow Abby to LA.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:18:52 AM #59:	jason19192 posted... People that say it's a "misery simulator" or a "simple revenge story" are mostly bigots or entitled babies that are mad about what happened to Joel pretending to have "legitimate" criticisms. It is a misery simulator, the whole plot is contrived. Spoilers Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason, and then Ellie and her gang go on some revenge trip in Seattle. You can't get any more contrived then that. They travel to Seattle for more pointless/senseless murder, it's basically everyone killing each other for no reason. By the end of the game you couldn't tell the difference between who was a "good guy" or "bad guy". Although it was clear as day Ellie and her gang were the real villains. Ellie was completely unlikable towards the end, she had little to no morals. How does someone not liking the game a bigot? <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006143] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>People that say it's a "misery simulator" or a "simple revenge story" are mostly bigots or entitled babies that are mad about what happened to Joel pretending to have "legitimate" criticisms.</quote> It is a misery simulator, the whole plot is contrived. Spoilers Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason, and then Ellie and her gang go on some revenge trip in Seattle. You can't get any more contrived then that. They travel to Seattle for more pointless/senseless murder, it's basically everyone killing each other for no reason. By the end of the game you couldn't tell the difference between who was a "good guy" or "bad guy". Although it was clear as day Ellie and her gang were the real villains. Ellie was completely unlikable towards the end, she had little to no morals. How does someone not liking the game a bigot? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GameGodOfAll 01/28/21 3:21:13 AM #60:	darkstar4221 posted... ~~Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason~~ See? Nonsensical. --- My Words Were True And Sheamus Made You Believe! https://imgur.com/Fc39f <cite>GameGodOfAll posted [p:950006172] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason</quote>See? Nonsensical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
g0ldie 01/28/21 3:23:11 AM #61:	^ Ellie had already crossed past villain status long before that part. with Abby's other friends, you can argue that she killed almost all of them in heated moments (even though she instigated some of the encounters), but with Nora, she tortured her to death. anyway, Ellie's quest for revenge against Abby developed into an obsession, as it was the only way to combat her sense of grief and guilt, so even though we know it was a mistake for her to leave Dina and JJ, and she knew it was wrong to leave Dina and JJ, she couldn't help herself. edit: at post 58 --- The pamphlet on First Life contains 93 lies and 7 truths. The truths don't provide any answers. <cite>g0ldie posted [p:950006197] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>^ Ellie had already crossed past villain status long before that part. with Abby's other friends, you can argue that she killed almost all of them in heated moments (even though she instigated some of the encounters), but with Nora, she tortured her to death. anyway, Ellie's quest for revenge against Abby developed into an obsession, as it was the only way to combat her sense of grief and guilt, so even though we know it was a mistake for her to leave Dina and JJ, and she knew it was wrong to leave Dina and JJ, she couldn't help herself. edit: at post 58 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 3:23:17 AM #62:	darkstar4221 posted... It is a misery simulator, the whole plot is contrived. Spoilers Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason, and then Ellie and her gang go on some revenge trip in Seattle. You can't get any more contrived then that. They travel to Seattle for more pointless/senseless murder, it's basically everyone killing each other for no reason. By the end of the game you couldn't tell the difference between who was a "good guy" or "bad guy". Although it was clear as day Ellie and her gang were the real villains. Ellie was completely unlikable towards the end, she had little to no morals. How does someone not liking the game a bigot? You couldn't tell the difference between who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy". Hey genius, it's been like that since the first game. Or did you think Joel not giving Ellie a choice in what she wanted and dooming humanity made him a good guy? <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950006198] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>It is a misery simulator, the whole plot is contrived. Spoilers Out of nowhere Joel dies for practically no reason, and then Ellie and her gang go on some revenge trip in Seattle. You can't get any more contrived then that. They travel to Seattle for more pointless/senseless murder, it's basically everyone killing each other for no reason. By the end of the game you couldn't tell the difference between who was a "good guy" or "bad guy". Although it was clear as day Ellie and her gang were the real villains. Ellie was completely unlikable towards the end, she had little to no morals. How does someone not liking the game a bigot?</quote>You couldn't tell the difference between who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy". Hey genius, it's been like that since the first game. Or did you think Joel not giving Ellie a choice in what she wanted and dooming humanity made him a good guy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 01/28/21 3:26:13 AM #63:	I'm positive if the game was super well written, had a ton of side content, extra modes it would still get shit on because Joel died. It could honestly be the first game all over again with a slightly rehashed storyline and people would have adored it. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:950006243] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>I'm positive if the game was super well written, had a ton of side content, extra modes it would still get shit on because Joel died. It could honestly be the first game all over again with a slightly rehashed storyline and people would have adored it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:34:18 AM #64:	jason19192 posted... You couldn't tell the difference between who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy". Hey genius, it's been like that since the first game. Or did you think Joel not giving Ellie a choice in what she wanted and dooming humanity made him a good guy? The first game the characters particularly Joel and Ellie were far less villainous, and you can reason for what they did. Joel thought Ellie didn't need to be sacrificed to save humanity, you can understand his point of view. From my point of view a protagonist has to have some moral and honor, and it was completely gone in the 2nd game. They had none. None of the good guys were likable, but you couldn't reason their actions at all. That's just my opinion on a good story, but there is a reason why this game has lots of critics. <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006360] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>You couldn't tell the difference between who was the "good guy" or the "bad guy". Hey genius, it's been like that since the first game. Or did you think Joel not giving Ellie a choice in what she wanted and dooming humanity made him a good guy?</quote> The first game the characters particularly Joel and Ellie were far less villainous, and you can reason for what they did. Joel thought Ellie didn't need to be sacrificed to save humanity, you can understand his point of view. From my point of view a protagonist has to have some moral and honor, and it was completely gone in the 2nd game. They had none. None of the good guys were likable, but you couldn't reason their actions at all. That's just my opinion on a good story, but there is a reason why this game has lots of critics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:34:42 AM #65:	GameGodOfAll posted... See? Nonsensical. How was my post nonsensical? <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006365] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>GameGodOfAll posted... </cite> <quote>See? Nonsensical.</quote> How was my post nonsensical? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 3:35:27 AM #66:	darkstar4221 posted... The first game the characters particularly Joel and Ellie were far less villainous, and you can reason for what they did. Joel thought Ellie didn't need to be sacrificed to save humanity, you can understand his point of view. From my point of view a protagonist has to have some moral and honor, and it was completely gone in the 2nd game. They had none. None of the good guys were likable, but you couldn't reason their actions at all. That's just my opinion on a good story, but there is a reason why this game has lots of critics. Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Of course you're gonna defend him and shit on Ellie, what a fucking surprise. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950006375] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>The first game the characters particularly Joel and Ellie were far less villainous, and you can reason for what they did. Joel thought Ellie didn't need to be sacrificed to save humanity, you can understand his point of view. From my point of view a protagonist has to have some moral and honor, and it was completely gone in the 2nd game. They had none. None of the good guys were likable, but you couldn't reason their actions at all. That's just my opinion on a good story, but there is a reason why this game has lots of critics.</quote>Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Of course you're gonna defend him and shit on Ellie, what a fucking surprise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:40:20 AM #67:	jason19192 posted... Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Of course you're gonna defend him and shit on Ellie, what a fucking surprise. Joel didn't give a s* about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life. <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006437] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Of course you're gonna defend him and shit on Ellie, what a fucking surprise.</quote> Joel didn't give a s* about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 3:41:41 AM #68:	darkstar4221 posted... Joel didn't give a s*** about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life. Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Read this part very closely. I know you might have a hard time reading so take your time. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950006454] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>Joel didn't give a s*** about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life.</quote>Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Read this part very closely. I know you might have a hard time reading so take your time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 01/28/21 3:43:26 AM #69:	darkstar4221 posted... Joel didn't give a s* about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life. That's not what he meant. He meant that he didn't give a shit that she would be willing to die. Joel would not let her and there was absolutely nothing that would change his mind. Even if she was the potential cure he wouldn't let her go. If you think it was because Joel didn't think she needed to die you don't quite get it. Even if it was 100% guaranteed he would have done the exact same thing. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:950006479] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>Joel didn't give a s* about Ellie? He treated him like a daughter. He saved her life.</quote> That's not what he meant. He meant that he didn't give a shit that she would be willing to die. Joel would not let her and there was absolutely nothing that would change his mind. Even if she was the potential cure he wouldn't let her go. If you think it was because Joel didn't think she needed to die you don't quite get it. Even if it was 100% guaranteed he would have done the exact same thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:44:08 AM #70:	jason19192 posted... Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Read this part very closely. I know you might have a hard time reading so take your time. Okay Joel knew Ellie was okay with the sacrifice, but he went against her wishes. What the f* is your point clown? <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006491] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Joel knew Ellie would've wanted to sacrifice her life and he didn't give a shit. Read this part very closely. I know you might have a hard time reading so take your time.</quote> Okay Joel knew Ellie was okay with the sacrifice, but he went against her wishes. What the f* is your point clown? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 3:46:06 AM #71:	darkstar4221 posted... Okay Joel knew Ellie was okay with the sacrifice, but he went against her wishes. What the f* is your point clown? Don't forget that that choice doomed humanity so it makes him......get ready for it.......not a good guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for him ~~dying~~ somehow makes her worse than him. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950006520] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>Okay Joel knew Ellie was okay with the sacrifice, but he went against her wishes. What the f* is your point clown?</quote>Don't forget that that choice doomed humanity so it makes him......get ready for it.......not a good guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for him dying somehow makes her worse than him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 3:55:53 AM #72:	jason19192 posted... Don't forget that that choice doomed humanity so it makes him......get ready for it.......not a good guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for him ~~dying~~ somehow makes her worse than him. No it doesn't make him a bad guy, because he believed that someone sacrificing themselves for a cure is not a good option. And humanity wasn't eradicated by part 2. Like I said before the plot of Joel dying felt contrived. You weren't feeling Ellie's anger, it was just she had to get revenge because "Joel died". But throughout the game she loses character, she practically has little to no moral or honor anymore, you don't understand her actions, it's just senseless killing. In the end you practically despise her, I know I did. That's not a good story imo. <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006659] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Don't forget that that choice doomed humanity so it makes him......get ready for it.......not a good guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for him dying somehow makes her worse than him.</quote> No it doesn't make him a bad guy, because he believed that someone sacrificing themselves for a cure is not a good option. And humanity wasn't eradicated by part 2. Like I said before the plot of Joel dying felt contrived. You weren't feeling Ellie's anger, it was just she had to get revenge because "Joel died". But throughout the game she loses character, she practically has little to no moral or honor anymore, you don't understand her actions, it's just senseless killing. In the end you practically despise her, I know I did. That's not a good story imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/28/21 4:01:32 AM #73:	Makeveli_lives posted... No it wasn't lol An innocent little girl getting shot and dying in her fathers arms isn't more depressing than this game...hmmm. darkstar4221 posted... Spoilers ~~She barley moved on, which is not in anyway honorable. Had she just stayed in the farmhouse yeah you can say she moved on, but she had to go follow Abby to LA..~~ And she would have never moved out if she hadn't looked for Abby for her closure. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! Communism is free drink refills, nothing else. <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:950006729] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>Makeveli_lives posted... </cite> <quote>No it wasn't lol</quote>An innocent little girl getting shot and dying in her fathers arms isn't more depressing than this game...hmmm. darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>Spoilers She barley moved on, which is not in anyway honorable. Had she just stayed in the farmhouse yeah you can say she moved on, but she had to go follow Abby to LA.. </quote>And she would have never moved out if she hadn't looked for Abby for her closure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jason19192 01/28/21 4:02:16 AM #74:	darkstar4221 posted... No it doesn't make him a bad guy, because he believed that someone sacrificing themselves for a cure is not a good option. And humanity wasn't eradicated by part 2. Like I said before the plot of Joel dying felt contrived. You weren't feeling Ellie's anger, it was just she had to get revenge because "Joel died". But throughout the game she loses character, she practically has little to no moral or honor anymore, you don't understand her actions, it's just senseless killing. In the end you practically despise her, I know I did. That's not a good story imo. Joel dooming humanity for his own selfish needs doesn't make him the bad guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for someone she loved makes her the bad guy. Got it. <cite>jason19192 posted [p:950006732] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>No it doesn't make him a bad guy, because he believed that someone sacrificing themselves for a cure is not a good option. And humanity wasn't eradicated by part 2. Like I said before the plot of Joel dying felt contrived. You weren't feeling Ellie's anger, it was just she had to get revenge because "Joel died". But throughout the game she loses character, she practically has little to no moral or honor anymore, you don't understand her actions, it's just senseless killing. In the end you practically despise her, I know I did. That's not a good story imo.</quote>Joel dooming humanity for his own selfish needs doesn't make him the bad guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for someone she loved makes her the bad guy. Got it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/28/21 4:15:24 AM #75:	jason19192 posted... Joel dooming humanity for his own selfish needs doesn't make him the bad guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for someone she loved makes her the bad guy. Got it. To be honest when Joel died I really didn't care, I was thinking "oh look a plot twist". Calling Ellie a bad guy would be an understatement. When she went to Seattle she just killed everything on sight, even killing a pregnant lady, and torturing one of Joel's killers. And she would have never moved out if she hadn't looked for Abby for her closure. I would have liked the story more if Abby just killed Ellie in the theater. <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950006903] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Joel dooming humanity for his own selfish needs doesn't make him the bad guy. But Ellie wanting revenge for someone she loved makes her the bad guy. Got it.</quote> To be honest when Joel died I really didn't care, I was thinking "oh look a plot twist". Calling Ellie a bad guy would be an understatement. When she went to Seattle she just killed everything on sight, even killing a pregnant lady, and torturing one of Joel's killers. <quote>And she would have never moved out if she hadn't looked for Abby for her closure.</quote> I would have liked the story more if Abby just killed Ellie in the theater. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KyoryuCyan 01/28/21 5:33:46 AM #76:	jason19192 posted... Just like with Last Jedi and MGS2, it's a sequel that dares to be bold instead of being safe and pandering to entitled white men. The only thing "bold" about TLJ is that they put out a Star Wars movie worse than Sonic 06 is a game, and some fans eat that Sub-holiday special garbage and call it not crap. --- "I ****ed a polar bear and I still can't get you out of my head" <cite>KyoryuCyan posted [p:950007723] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>jason19192 posted... </cite> <quote>Just like with Last Jedi and MGS2, it's a sequel that dares to be bold instead of being safe and pandering to entitled white men.</quote> The only thing "bold" about TLJ is that they put out a Star Wars movie worse than Sonic 06 is a game, and some fans eat that Sub-holiday special garbage and call it not crap. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 01/28/21 5:46:17 AM #77:	great game and one of my favorites from last year but i wouldnt consider it a timeless masterpiece or whatever... and the way i see it, there were no clear good guys or bad guys in this series as far as the story is concerned. just people surviving and doing what they believe to be the "right thing" in their eyes. <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:950007859] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>great game and one of my favorites from last year but i wouldnt consider it a timeless masterpiece or whatever... and the way i see it, there were no clear good guys or bad guys in this series as far as the story is concerned. just people surviving and doing what they believe to be the "right thing" in their eyes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spikethedevil 01/28/21 5:52:37 AM #78:	darkstar4221 posted... To be honest when Joel died I really didn't care, I was thinking "oh look a plot twist". Calling Ellie a bad guy would be an understatement. When she went to Seattle she just killed everything on sight, even killing a pregnant lady, and torturing one of Joel's killers. I would have liked the story more if Abby just killed Ellie in the theater. She didnt know she was pregnant and was disgusted with her self when she found out. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! <cite>spikethedevil posted [p:950007924] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>darkstar4221 posted... </cite> <quote>To be honest when Joel died I really didn't care, I was thinking "oh look a plot twist". Calling Ellie a bad guy would be an understatement. When she went to Seattle she just killed everything on sight, even killing a pregnant lady, and torturing one of Joel's killers. I would have liked the story more if Abby just killed Ellie in the theater.</quote> She didnt know she was pregnant and was disgusted with her self when she found out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InhumaneRaider 01/28/21 6:06:53 AM #79:	To be fair about the Ellie situation, she did worse shit than Abby and I felt we only justified her actions because she was Ellie. Outside of that, I don't think Ellie was going to let any of them go, because listen to what she says when he and Dina go after Leah. "Would have been fucked up to make her talk." "She traveled all that way to torture him, doesn't matter if she pulled the trigger or not" I don't blame any of Abby's friends for acting the way they did, because who would trust that a vengeful woman who travelled over 1000 miles to kill Abby, would actually let them go. Hell, she was able to track them as well, I'd be throwing trays and shit at her as well. --- The War on Christmas begins now, comrades! Load up the Acai refreshers! Cash the Soros checks! Communism is free drink refills, nothing else. <cite>InhumaneRaider posted [p:950008067] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>To be fair about the Ellie situation, she did worse shit than Abby and I felt we only justified her actions because she was Ellie. Outside of that, I don't think Ellie was going to let any of them go, because listen to what she says when he and Dina go after Leah. "Would have been fucked up to make her talk." "She traveled all that way to torture him, doesn't matter if she pulled the trigger or not" I don't blame any of Abby's friends for acting the way they did, because who would trust that a vengeful woman who travelled over 1000 miles to kill Abby, would actually let them go. Hell, she was able to track them as well, I'd be throwing trays and shit at her as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slmcknett 01/28/21 6:29:21 AM #80:	SpiritSephiroth posted... Geez, really didnt deserve it. I mean its not a bad game, but come on. The amount of jerking off this game is getting is really tiring now. This. I liked it well enough, but it's not even as good as the first game. --- Watch "Final Fantasy XV Abridged" and "Kingdom Hearts Abridged" right here! https://www.youtube.com/user/mcknett3 <cite>slmcknett posted [p:950008333] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>SpiritSephiroth posted... </cite> <quote>Geez, really didnt deserve it. I mean its not a bad game, but come on. The amount of jerking off this game is getting is really tiring now.</quote>This. I liked it well enough, but it's not even as good as the first game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkstar4221 01/29/21 2:39:27 PM #81:	spikethedevil posted... She didnt know she was pregnant and was disgusted with her self when she found out. Well naughty dog ruined her character. I watched some of the youtube videos criticizing the game and they were right, the whole thing with Joel dying out of nowhere and Ellie going to Seattle for revenege felt really contrived. That's why I didn't care that Joel died. It was poor writing. Some of the plot points didn't make sense, like why didn't Abby kill off Ellie and the rest of the gang when they had the chance? Knowing full well Ellie was going to come look for them. <cite>darkstar4221 posted [p:950058532] in The Last o... [t:79262062]...</cite> <quote>spikethedevil posted... </cite> <quote>She didnt know she was pregnant and was disgusted with her self when she found out.</quote> Well naughty dog ruined her character. I watched some of the youtube videos criticizing the game and they were right, the whole thing with Joel dying out of nowhere and Ellie going to Seattle for revenege felt really contrived. That's why I didn't care that Joel died. It was poor writing. Some of the plot points didn't make sense, like why didn't Abby kill off Ellie and the rest of the gang when they had the chance? Knowing full well Ellie was going to come look for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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