Board 8 > Microsoft doubling the price of Xbox Live Gold

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ninkendo
01/22/21 11:47:16 AM
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Wanglicious
01/22/21 11:57:24 AM
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had to double check it.
they basically just raised the price of live gold to game pass. seems like an easy way to say this is how they're gonna force people from one to the other without losing any money.


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TotallyNotMI
01/22/21 12:13:36 PM
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Looks like if you're a current members your renewals will remain the same though!

Unless I'm misreading that.

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davidponte
01/22/21 12:19:32 PM
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The issue with this is that there are a whole lot of people who don't care about gamepass and mostly just play things like CoD and FIFA and Fortnite (The sales numbers of these games every year shows that), and for them they are now being forced to pay $120 a year to play them online.

Currently I can download a F2P game like Fortnite on PSN, Switch, or PC and play it for free online, but on an Xbox I'm going to have to pay $120.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/22/21 12:23:11 PM
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Bonehead move to push people to Game Pass.

They should have just made playing online free to play games free, LOWERED the price, and made it basically just give you Games with Gold + perks.

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GranzonEx
01/22/21 12:27:46 PM
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just buy GPU and binge when a new game drops, this will definitely suck for the people that want to play online all year though

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GranzonEx
01/22/21 12:34:10 PM
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this will suck for PS+ too because you know Sony will up the price just because Xbox can get away with it lmao

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Mac Arrowny
01/22/21 12:35:31 PM
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Microsoft actually upped the price to $100 a year a few months ago, and Sony didn't respond then. This is just another price increase to make it $120.
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andylt
01/22/21 12:52:53 PM
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To think a few months ago I believed the rumours about MS ditching paid online altogether, which would likely force Sony and Nint to do the same. I should've known better...

Why do they need to resort to such anti-consumer tactics to push Game Pass? Game Pass is great value as it is!

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Mac Arrowny
01/22/21 1:20:55 PM
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andylt posted...
Game Pass is great value as it is!

Is it? I feel like it's only really worthwhile if you love first party Microsoft games. Otherwise it's not really worth $180 a year.
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Maniac64
01/22/21 1:24:38 PM
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As someone who just uses gold to play online with friends this is really annoying.

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TheRock1525
01/22/21 1:25:07 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Is it? I feel like it's only really worthwhile if you love first party Microsoft games. Otherwise it's not really worth $180 a year.

Considering its mostly not first party games, yeah it is really good value.

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Mac Arrowny
01/22/21 1:28:04 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Considering its mostly not first party games, yeah it is really good value.

Yeah, but the third party games only go on there after they're heavily discounted (asking with some indie games that're cheap from the start).
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Ngamer64
01/22/21 1:29:28 PM
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Disappointed this wasn't labeled "Xboner of the Week".


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andylt
01/22/21 1:31:39 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Is it? I feel like it's only really worthwhile if you love first party Microsoft games. Otherwise it's not really worth $180 a year.
The vast majority of the stuff on there is third party. And there's offers on it all the time, I've never paid more than 1 for a month (there's a $1 for 3 months offer right now). With MS rewards you can pretty much get enough points to continuously get Game Pass for free too, I'm surprised they're feeling the need to do this.

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TheRock1525
01/22/21 1:31:44 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Yeah, but the third party games only go on there after they're heavily discounted

Dragon Quest XI S came out on game pass the day it was released so that's not always true, either.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/22/21 1:33:12 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
Yeah, but the third party games only go on there after they're heavily discounted (asking with some indie games that're cheap from the start).

Uh not really, there are tons of third party games that go on it day 1.

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Bane_Of_Despair
01/22/21 1:33:28 PM
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Wow, a rare misstep from Microsoft with their online! Interesting

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JackMan
01/22/21 3:24:36 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Uh not really, there are tons of third party games that go on it day 1.
Yeah, The Medium is literally coming out next week and is available Day 1, alongisde the upcoming Yakuza Remasters (which are old, but new to Xbox).

But yeah, this move seems weirdly aggressive for Microsoft, especially when they've been trying to lean more on the consumer-friendly side recently.

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FL81
01/22/21 3:58:19 PM
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PC always wins

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Punnyz
01/22/21 4:10:38 PM
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What a bunch of lol

guess its finally time to switch to PS+

actually thats not true that sucks too

Switch Online?

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Corrik7
01/22/21 4:29:20 PM
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TotallyNotMI posted...
Looks like if you're a current members your renewals will remain the same though!

Unless I'm misreading that.
I dunno... some people think yes it means that... I tend to think it means that they aren't gonna charge you money for your months you already have to make up the difference. It says it is the current price on renewal. Current Price is the new price. Renewal meaning stopped concurrently being a member and rejoined or when your billing cycle was up? Idk. I think it's just saying you don't owe more for what you already have cuz duh.

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Corrik7
01/22/21 4:30:48 PM
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As someone who has never paid more than $35 for a year of XBL... it's interesting.

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Xiahou Shake
01/22/21 4:35:30 PM
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Paying a subscription to use a basic function like online play has always struck me as weird - $120 a year for it is downright insane though.

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Nanis23
01/22/21 4:39:31 PM
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A few hours ago I read Kotaku headline was "microsoft raises price of-xbox live gold by $1 a month"
And I was like, fine, inflation.

But turns out there was a far far worse change, what the hell

I don't have Xbox and never will so it doesn't affect me directly, but I am always against anti-consumer actions, so I feel your pain

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Waluigi1
01/22/21 6:36:27 PM
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Am I missing something? That article didn't mention anything about the price doubling?

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red13n
01/22/21 6:38:41 PM
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Waluigi1 posted...
Am I missing something? That article didn't mention anything about the price doubling?

You are in fact missing something.

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Corrik7
01/22/21 6:40:20 PM
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They brought all the prices in line with their 1 month price. So the 6 month is no longer less for buying in bulk and is $60 for 6 months. This is a 100% increase as it used to be $30 for 6 months and $60 for a year.


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StealThisSheen
01/22/21 6:49:10 PM
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Waluigi1 posted...
Am I missing something? That article didn't mention anything about the price doubling?

Yes it does.

"Going forward, new pricing will be 1-month for $10.99, 3-months for $29.99, and 6-months for $59.99, or your local market equivalent."

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CoolCly
01/22/21 6:56:50 PM
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this is probably an unpopular opinion but there probably is a significant cost to microsoft/sony/nintendo to maintain these online platforms for all games all the time for consoles( that is mitigated on PC since it's not all so centralized) that requires these annual fees, even though they feel really bad to pay.

I wonder what the right price point actually would be though? Is this too high? Is this too low?

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Wanglicious
01/22/21 7:06:09 PM
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i mean for microsoft this is really just them using live gold as a way to fund game pass a little more/put people on it and that endeavor has zero chance of profit. cost of playing online should be cheap enough that even nintendo's making profit on it and that's $5-20/person per year.

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Team Rocket Elite
01/22/21 7:09:27 PM
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I mean it was highly profitable before the prices doubled. It's not like they were barely making ends meet and needed to increase prices to keep the lights on. With that said, it isn't necessarily 100% pure profit since they might spend some of it on upgrades or something that they wouldn't have normally.
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StealThisSheen
01/22/21 7:16:43 PM
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I'd think they'd make more money by increased Game Pass subscriptions if they lowered the cost of Gold instead of trying to force it by stringing them both together at their current prices.

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Kinglicious
01/22/21 8:16:03 PM
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Probably would.
But if they want to phase out live gold, this would be the way to go. Eventually it'll just be game pass.

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WazzupGenius00
01/23/21 12:00:50 AM
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They just canceled this price increase and also are making it so Free to Play games no longer require Xbox Live Gold at all

They must have been -that- afraid that this would be the new generation's "online-only, no used games" knife in the back of their new console that they actually backtracked even further than their initial position

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ChaosTonyV4
01/23/21 12:06:05 AM
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They didnt cancel the price increase, they just lowered it to like $1?

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UshiromiyaEva
01/23/21 12:07:49 AM
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The fucked around and found out.

Wouldn't be surprised if the sentiment that console games should have ANY online fee was passing around enough as a result of this that they realized they'd be more fucked if they didn't return to the (still shitty) status quo.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/23/21 12:10:14 AM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
They didnt cancel the price increase, they just lowered it to like $1?

Also I saw conflicting stuff, but their official page says no price increase at all, so yeah

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StealThisSheen
01/23/21 12:11:17 AM
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Nah, they completely canceled it. Prices remain the same.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/01/22/update-on-xbox-live-gold-pricing/

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StealThisSheen
01/23/21 12:11:48 AM
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Well FINE Tony, correct yourself before me

I see how it is

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Team Rocket Elite
01/23/21 12:22:50 AM
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I wonder what convinced them to back off. Users complained but people were always going to complain about a price increase. No one wants to pay more after all.
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StealThisSheen
01/23/21 12:27:57 AM
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I think they're legitimately trying to make ground by being the Cool Uncle while making Sony stand out as the rich uncle that only gives you socks for your birthday and Christmas, and that has made them more jumpy to backlash.

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GranzonEx
01/23/21 12:28:15 AM
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Satya Nadella probably sat down whoever the fuck authorized this and told them a year of Gold shouldn't cost more than a year of Office 365 and now that person is probably going to be looking for work starting tomorrow

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Grand Kirby
01/23/21 12:31:48 AM
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Earlier in the day "Sony" started trending on Twitter because it was filled with tweets of people dunking on MS and using this as a reason why people should play Playstation instead. That's not the kind of publicity you want to give to your competitors. Might have played a part in the backtracking.

Also, the fact that it was reversed so easily just makes me think how much this decision was based on pure greed and not by any metric of needing to cover increasing costs or anything like that.

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ninkendo
01/23/21 12:59:37 AM
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TheRock1525
01/23/21 1:02:15 AM
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ninkendo posted...
https://kotaku.com/microsoft-reverses-course-on-xbox-live-price-increase-1846116326

well that was quick

Unlike you when it comes to posting news.

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ninkendo
01/23/21 1:05:53 AM
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01/23/21 1:08:40 AM
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andylt
01/23/21 8:02:01 AM
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Hey guys breaking news I heard Microsoft changed their mind and backtracked! That was fast: https://kotaku.com/microsoft-reverses-course-on-xbox-live-price-increase-1846116326

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Ashethan
01/23/21 9:25:48 AM
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Reminds me of when Microsoft was at E3 with XBOX One and was like "Hey guys, guess what! We've got an exciting new feature for you. It's called: Not being able to buy used games and always on DRM! Exciting, right?"

And then Sony came into E3 and won the console generation by simply... not doing that.

Microsoft later backtracked, but by then it was too late.

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