Board 8 > Japanese man trains AI to identify which Pokemon are most like Digimon

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ZenOfThunder
01/20/21 9:42:51 PM
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i dont think i ever saw a topic on this so I thought I'd share, apologies if old

https://qiita.com/mrok273/items/58532c06a3af3324d970

Basically this guy fed an AI the first 251 Pokemon and almost all Digimon, then had it identify which Pokemon were most like Digimon and vice-versa. The way he explains it above is that it looks at the entire image of a Pokemon and assigns literally all "sections" of it (eyes, ears, body shape, etc) as either being Pokemon or Digimon-esque, then calculates an overall percentage of pokemon features vs digimon features

These Pokemon are the most like Digimon:



These Digimon are the most like Pokemon:



Here are the Pokemon that are the least like Digimon, some really surprising ones in here:



Generations with the most Pokemon that it classifies as Digimon (I think this is % based and not a raw #):



and for shits and giggles he made a bunch of modifications to Mightyena to try to get the algorithm to see it as a Pokemon and not a Digimon. this image worked best:



there's a ton of other really cool statistics in the article itself, just use google translate to read it. the article is super long and goes way in depth about how it all works and it's mostly readable. one of my favorite things is the breakdown of digimon characteristics vs pokemon characteristics:

Digimon:
  • black
  • Thorny design
  • complexity
  • Vivid shades
  • There are many drawings


Pokmon:
  • pastel colour
  • round
  • simple
if you ever wanna make your own digimon just make sure there are many drawings. also make sure it's black?

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LordoftheMorons
01/20/21 9:55:45 PM
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So it looks like mega evolutions are digimon-like and baby digimon are Pokmon-like?

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StealThisSheen
01/20/21 9:57:21 PM
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How is Cacturne one of the least Digimon-esque

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ZenOfThunder
01/20/21 10:02:48 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
How is Cacturne one of the least Digimon-esque

i think the spines are not pronounced enough so it probably sees it as just a collection of very smooth pastel-green shapes

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StealThisSheen
01/20/21 10:05:31 PM
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That's fair, actually.

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GenesisSaga
01/21/21 6:56:02 AM
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No Bisharp?? Surprising.
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Steiner
01/21/21 7:12:21 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
So it looks like mega evolutions are digimon-like and baby digimon are Pokmon-like?

so what we're learning is every digimon would beat every pokemon in a fight

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DeepsPraw
01/21/21 8:49:16 AM
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where are the digimon that look the least like pokemon?

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Steiner
01/21/21 9:42:49 AM
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DeepsPraw posted...
where are the digimon that look the least like pokemon?

heaven

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Lopen
01/21/21 10:13:29 AM
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  • Thorny design
  • complexity
Funny because I was thinking of this without really quantifying when I saw the topic. I was like "okay so we're gonna see like Jolteon and Sandslash and Zapdos and mostly later gen Pokes" as digimonlike.

Of course Jolteon and Sandslash aren't actually there but I digress.

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Nanis23
01/21/21 10:45:19 AM
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Where are you Mecha Zygare

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Blue-G
01/21/21 10:59:41 AM
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Now this is how you use an ai

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MZero
01/21/21 11:47:18 AM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
if you ever wanna make your own digimon just make sure there are many drawings. also make sure it's black?

lmao

"there are many drawings" should be translated as like "detailed" basically (and in this case "black" should be "dark")

this version is funnier though

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Hbthebattle
01/21/21 1:34:35 PM
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Considering the bot's definition of Poekmon is only based on the first two gens, I wonder how the results would change if it was based on some other subset

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/21/21 1:45:10 PM
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Really funny that despite defining Pokemon design exclusively as the first two gens, Zapdos, Skarmory, and Ariados still made it in. Also Mightyena and Sawsbuck are just a wolf and a deer. What the hell? Sawsbuck doesn't even seem overly pointy, though I'm just realizing some seasonal forms might have thrown it off.

Hbthebattle posted...
Considering the bot's definition of Poekmon is only based on the first two gens, I wonder how the results would change if it was based on some other subset

I do agree with this though, I think you'd either want to expand the definition of Pokemon and/or reduce the definition of Digimon for this to be a truly fair test. The design as-is is pretty subjective and flawed. Not sure how Digimon categorizes its "generations" but wouldn't you want your two definition sets to be as analogous to each other as possible?

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LusterSoldier
01/23/21 9:31:32 PM
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One of the images in the first post of this topic was also found in this topic from last year:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78911171

So Zen's discovery isn't a very recent thing. It's been around for several months by now.
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NFUN
01/23/21 9:40:51 PM
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LusterSoldier posted...
One of the images in the first post of this topic was also found in this topic from last year:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/259372-pokemon-sword/78911171

So Zen's discovery isn't a very recent thing. It's been around for several months by now.

Excellent detective work! I noticed that the article claimed it was from August 13, 2020 at the very top of the article, but until you did that sleuthing, I didn't believe it one bit. You just can't trust information so obviously placed and easily legible these days. Shame on you, Zen, for claiming that you were the first person to ever find this and bragging that you stumbled across it immediately after it was posted
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Drakeryn
01/23/21 9:43:46 PM
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luxray is definitely my favorite digimon

also lol mightyena's pokemon form
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ZenOfThunder
01/23/21 11:04:04 PM
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cant believe luster found out i am a total slut for claiming my old posts are brand new

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TheCodeisBosco
01/23/21 11:19:25 PM
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Surprised Groudon isn't on there tbh, I always got some serious Digimon vibes from him.

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demonfang178
01/24/21 1:52:18 PM
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Putting gigantimax pokemon, where the designers' intent was to overdo it feels like cheating.
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